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UnseenWorld · 05-25-2001, 01:00 AM

I'm planning on being in Vegas in June to promote my content. If you have some experience with these shows, how would you suggest I promote content biz? Behind a table? Walking the aisles? Or something else?

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boneprone · 05-25-2001, 01:06 AM

Tables are spendy, if you do choose a table you MUST have models with you at your table to help push your product..

Maybe for your first time it would be best not to get a table and just get the feel for the convention.. You can network your product and get to know people at the parties and around the convention floor.. Bring lots of business cards, and maybe even some sample cd's to give to some serious webmasters who seem intrested.

TheWatcher · 05-25-2001, 01:17 AM

Hmm Glamore is everything...

if you do the floor or a table have 4 very fucking gorgous models =O) I would be one but I am a guy. hah anywho...

Got to think what would make a webmaster blood boil and his dick swell thats how to sale your content ... truuuust me.

I use to run shows for Boyjuice and Chisel..

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boneprone · 05-25-2001, 01:22 AM

The models are a must.. You would be out of place without them.. Plus you need albums, and a PC there for people to sit down and browse your stuff.. Parties would be tough cause youd be settig up shop in the convention about the same time most people will be going to bed from the late night parties.. You may just wanna go without the booth the first time, and check shit out. Get some good ideas as to what ya want to do by just checking out the convention and the booths for what ya wanna do the next time.

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MrBrian · 05-25-2001, 01:46 AM

ive had a couple booths

hell, if i want to stay behind one all day though.

you can always get girls to pass out samplers, etc...

flyers are a waste i think...you need something to stand out

a hot girl is always a good thing. i didnt really see any truely hot girls at the show like i did in new orleans. i miss those igallery girls.

boneprone · 05-25-2001, 01:54 AM

What about the Matrix girls? Ya didnt like Amber Michaels?

BrettJ · 05-25-2001, 02:29 AM

Any surprise that I have an opinion?
hehe..

I see 3 staffing strategies employed.

booths with no women.
booths with women as talent (bodies)
booths with women as salespeople.

It takes a lot to get me to stop at a booth that doesn't have a woman to look at.

But if the women are just to look at ... I'll take a quick glance at the booth...make a mental note and move on.

THE most sucessful booths...have knowledgeable women...that are well spoken...that you can ask questions...get answers from...and do a little flirting with.

You do that... it doesn't matter what you are selling... people will stop by... if you have something for them to sign up for... a girl can get a guy to sign up for ANYTHING.... especially when she is dressed right...or when when she hints she might be a party later...

Any surprise, i'm a marketer...

that's my 2 clicks.

~Brett

jeanette · 05-25-2001, 06:17 AM

Hey guys can we just keep in mind that not everyone in the biz is a man. That said, if you're going to get a booth, I do think you should have models there. You need to show off your product in as many ways as possible. But I wouldn't think that a booth would be the best way to go at your first show. I'd bring business cards and samples and schmooze with everybody. You'll have more fun this way.

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Crutch · 05-25-2001, 06:31 AM

Unseen,

Don't know weather this well help, but i've been to all the IA2000 shows. In my experiences, most of the deals have been made over dinner, at the parties, or while puking out back. Yes...i know that sounds strange.....lol.....but a lovely moment and even great deal was made.

Anyway, i've bought more content at the poker and blackjack tables and at the parties, then at the convention itself. My advice is, never have to run back to your room to have to grab something. Carry a few content pieces with you....the best stuff you have.

You can sell alot of content to idiot drunks like me.

Seriously though...always have a few good pieces on you at all times.

[This message has been edited by Crutch (edited 05-25-2001).]

UnseenWorld · 05-25-2001, 10:04 AM

This is my first time around, and I think having girls or a booth is out of the question, so maybe this will just be a reconnaissance mission this time. However, what I could do is carry an album of content along with a supply of sample CD's to pass out to likely prospects, along with a promise of like 4 free sets if they check out my stuff when they get back to work. I think I'll be doing a lot of shaking hands. What is the best way to make that work for me? I could also make appointments to catch up with my regular customers who are there, and maybe they can do some introductions.

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deluxe · 05-25-2001, 10:20 AM

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ElvisManson · 05-25-2001, 10:50 AM

Crutch is absolutely right....no question...

90% of the business that gets done is off the convention floor.

It is a good place to meet people and to put names to faces....but the real deal is going on in the bars, parties and the casino floor

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BrettJ · 05-25-2001, 11:09 AM

Everybody is right about how little gets done on the show room.... my suggestion was just for those that actually want to have a booth. i wouldn't recommend it either...

to the lady that said...the thing about women being in the industry. for sure... but the people that walk around on the floor and attend the parties are 90% male.

I've never scored a big deal at a poker table....but parties .... and dinners will pay for your trip and then some. =)

Jamdin · 05-25-2001, 11:49 AM

Don't forget the business cards or sample cds/diskettes.

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Anthony · 05-25-2001, 03:18 PM

My suggestions.

Network.

Hand out your cards everywhere you go.

Talk talk talk.

You don't need a booth. You can get alot of business done without them.

UnseenWorld · 05-27-2001, 01:18 AM

Thank you all. I'm still a start-up and need to watch every dollar. Business cards and sample CD's, plus some shmoozing over food sound like a good idea. (Should I offer to buy dinner should I just find a group and sit down with them...see, I really don't know how things work.)

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hottshot · 05-27-2001, 01:26 AM

bring a few models with you and you won't have a problem

UnseenWorld · 05-27-2001, 01:46 AM

I don't think you read the entire post. Bringing models isn't in the cards this time. Besides, I have certain standards for how women should be treated and I'm not sure everyone at the show would automatically treat them as anything other than bimbos. I really LIKE the girls I work with.

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ldinternet · 05-27-2001, 04:01 AM

Good advice there people.

Flyers don't work that well, maybe have them laying on a table so that people can pick them up if the want. Nice little booklets should go down a treat. Get some eye candy to hand them out, flirt with the webmasters, etc. Make them like a little porn magazine, with a very brief advertisement for your content URL. Maybe give out sample content CDs with 50 free pics... make them available

Make it nice and glossy. You ever heard of Paul Raymond Publications? Every time they release a new magazine, they put a little promo booklet inside of their existing publications. Very nice samples pics too - I'd imagine that they sell a lot of the new titles by doing this.

Mikey · 05-28-2001, 12:35 AM

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12clicks · 05-29-2001, 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BrettJ:

to the lady that said...the thing about women being in the industry. for sure... but the people that walk around on the floor and attend the parties are 90% male.

Um, you and I must not go to the same parties.

05-25-2001, 01:00 AM	#1
UnseenWorld Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Portland, OR, USA Posts: 5,279	Needed: Suggestions for Working the Show I'm planning on being in Vegas in June to promote my content. If you have some experience with these shows, how would you suggest I promote content biz? Behind a table? Walking the aisles? Or something else? ------------------ Producer of truly original teen/young woman-oriented adult content at Wonders of the Unseen World

05-25-2001, 01:06 AM	#2
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	Tables are spendy, if you do choose a table you MUST have models with you at your table to help push your product.. Maybe for your first time it would be best not to get a table and just get the feel for the convention.. You can network your product and get to know people at the parties and around the convention floor.. Bring lots of business cards, and maybe even some sample cd's to give to some serious webmasters who seem intrested.

05-25-2001, 01:17 AM	#3
TheWatcher Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico Posts: 563	Hmm Glamore is everything... if you do the floor or a table have 4 very fucking gorgous models =O) I would be one but I am a guy. hah anywho... Got to think what would make a webmaster blood boil and his dick swell thats how to sale your content ... truuuust me. I use to run shows for Boyjuice and Chisel.. ------------------ Peace will come, just kill them all...

05-25-2001, 01:22 AM	#4
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	The models are a must.. You would be out of place without them.. Plus you need albums, and a PC there for people to sit down and browse your stuff.. Parties would be tough cause youd be settig up shop in the convention about the same time most people will be going to bed from the late night parties.. You may just wanna go without the booth the first time, and check shit out. Get some good ideas as to what ya want to do by just checking out the convention and the booths for what ya wanna do the next time. [This message has been edited by boneprone (edited 05-25-2001).]

05-25-2001, 01:46 AM	#5
MrBrian Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 1,215	ive had a couple booths hell, if i want to stay behind one all day though. you can always get girls to pass out samplers, etc... flyers are a waste i think...you need something to stand out a hot girl is always a good thing. i didnt really see any truely hot girls at the show like i did in new orleans. i miss those igallery girls.

05-25-2001, 01:54 AM	#6
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	What about the Matrix girls? Ya didnt like Amber Michaels?

05-25-2001, 02:29 AM	#7
BrettJ ol' timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 4,715	Any surprise that I have an opinion? hehe.. I see 3 staffing strategies employed. booths with no women. booths with women as talent (bodies) booths with women as salespeople. It takes a lot to get me to stop at a booth that doesn't have a woman to look at. But if the women are just to look at ... I'll take a quick glance at the booth...make a mental note and move on. THE most sucessful booths...have knowledgeable women...that are well spoken...that you can ask questions...get answers from...and do a little flirting with. You do that... it doesn't matter what you are selling... people will stop by... if you have something for them to sign up for... a girl can get a guy to sign up for ANYTHING.... especially when she is dressed right...or when when she hints she might be a party later... Any surprise, i'm a marketer... that's my 2 clicks. ~Brett

05-25-2001, 06:17 AM	#8
jeanette Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 37	Hey guys can we just keep in mind that not everyone in the biz is a man. That said, if you're going to get a booth, I do think you should have models there. You need to show off your product in as many ways as possible. But I wouldn't think that a booth would be the best way to go at your first show. I'd bring business cards and samples and schmooze with everybody. You'll have more fun this way. ------------------ ----------------------- Free hosting tgp posting allowed at http://www.pornouniverse.net

05-25-2001, 06:31 AM	#9
Crutch Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 224	Unseen, Don't know weather this well help, but i've been to all the IA2000 shows. In my experiences, most of the deals have been made over dinner, at the parties, or while puking out back. Yes...i know that sounds strange.....lol.....but a lovely moment and even great deal was made. Anyway, i've bought more content at the poker and blackjack tables and at the parties, then at the convention itself. My advice is, never have to run back to your room to have to grab something. Carry a few content pieces with you....the best stuff you have. You can sell alot of content to idiot drunks like me. Seriously though...always have a few good pieces on you at all times. [This message has been edited by Crutch (edited 05-25-2001).]

05-25-2001, 10:04 AM	#10
UnseenWorld Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Portland, OR, USA Posts: 5,279	This is my first time around, and I think having girls or a booth is out of the question, so maybe this will just be a reconnaissance mission this time. However, what I could do is carry an album of content along with a supply of sample CD's to pass out to likely prospects, along with a promise of like 4 free sets if they check out my stuff when they get back to work. I think I'll be doing a lot of shaking hands. What is the best way to make that work for me? I could also make appointments to catch up with my regular customers who are there, and maybe they can do some introductions. ------------------ Producer of truly original teen/young woman-oriented adult content at Wonders of the Unseen World

05-25-2001, 10:20 AM	#11
deluxe Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,434	unseenworld, have you received my icq?

05-25-2001, 10:50 AM	#12
ElvisManson Looking California Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 5,476	Crutch is absolutely right....no question... 90% of the business that gets done is off the convention floor. It is a good place to meet people and to put names to faces....but the real deal is going on in the bars, parties and the casino floor ------------------ Make Money. Period. www.pythonvideo.com www.dollarmachine.com

05-25-2001, 11:09 AM	#13
BrettJ ol' timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 4,715	Everybody is right about how little gets done on the show room.... my suggestion was just for those that actually want to have a booth. i wouldn't recommend it either... to the lady that said...the thing about women being in the industry. for sure... but the people that walk around on the floor and attend the parties are 90% male. I've never scored a big deal at a poker table....but parties .... and dinners will pay for your trip and then some. =)

05-25-2001, 11:49 AM	#14
Jamdin Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Kansas Posts: 3,560	Don't forget the business cards or sample cds/diskettes. ------------------ Moongem Erotica Moongem Fiction

05-25-2001, 03:18 PM	#15
Anthony Keyboard Warrior Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: One of the outer rings of Hell Posts: 9,653	My suggestions. Network. Hand out your cards everywhere you go. Talk talk talk. You don't need a booth. You can get alot of business done without them.

05-27-2001, 01:18 AM	#16
UnseenWorld Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Portland, OR, USA Posts: 5,279	Thank you all. I'm still a start-up and need to watch every dollar. Business cards and sample CD's, plus some shmoozing over food sound like a good idea. (Should I offer to buy dinner should I just find a group and sit down with them...see, I really don't know how things work.) ------------------ Producer of truly original teen/young woman-oriented adult content at Wonders of the Unseen World

05-27-2001, 01:26 AM	#17
hottshot Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: AZ Posts: 900	bring a few models with you and you won't have a problem

05-27-2001, 01:46 AM	#18
UnseenWorld Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Portland, OR, USA Posts: 5,279	I don't think you read the entire post. Bringing models isn't in the cards this time. Besides, I have certain standards for how women should be treated and I'm not sure everyone at the show would automatically treat them as anything other than bimbos. I really LIKE the girls I work with. ------------------ Producer of truly original teen/young woman-oriented adult content at Wonders of the Unseen World

05-27-2001, 04:01 AM	#19
ldinternet Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 8,245	Good advice there people. Flyers don't work that well, maybe have them laying on a table so that people can pick them up if the want. Nice little booklets should go down a treat. Get some eye candy to hand them out, flirt with the webmasters, etc. Make them like a little porn magazine, with a very brief advertisement for your content URL. Maybe give out sample content CDs with 50 free pics... make them available Make it nice and glossy. You ever heard of Paul Raymond Publications? Every time they release a new magazine, they put a little promo booklet inside of their existing publications. Very nice samples pics too - I'd imagine that they sell a lot of the new titles by doing this.

05-28-2001, 12:35 AM	#20
Mikey Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 665	CD sampler.