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Old 08-16-2004, 05:46 PM   #1
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Execution By Electric Chair...Do you feel sorry for this dude?

http://crimemagazine.com/davis1.htm


Yeah, it's got pictures. They say we should be upset because it's a brutal form of execution but this monster murdered a mother and her daughters.

Like, should we cry or what?
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Old 08-16-2004, 05:47 PM   #2
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He murdered people. He deserves to die.
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With the shocking number of people sitting on death row who were later proven innocent by DNA or a real-killers-confession or some other miracle, I have to hesitate with the "burn fucker" response. Murderers deserve to be killed, but our courts get it wrong too often. I'd be fine with the death penalty if, for example, there was clear video of the guy doing it, but in the absence of something indisputable like that, I think it's better (and more beneficial to society) to put the convicted to work behind bars.

As to the means of execution, lethal injection seems more humane. You're not teaching the guy anything one way or the other (he'll be dead within seconds) so why torture someone who might (however unlikely) be innocent? It doesn't serve any useful purpose. Once the guy is dead, it really doesn't matter how much it hurt. Besides, I imagine knowing that your death is imminent would be far worse than the actual physical sensation.
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With the shocking number of people sitting on death row who were later proven innocent by DNA or a real-killers-confession or some other miracle, I have to hesitate with the "burn fucker" response. Murderers deserve to be killed, but our courts get it wrong too often. I'd be fine with the death penalty if, for example, there was clear video of the guy doing it, but in the absence of something indisputable like that, I think it's better (and more beneficial to society) to put the convicted to work behind bars.

As to the means of execution, lethal injection seems more humane. You're not teaching the guy anything one way or the other (he'll be dead within seconds) so why torture someone who might (however unlikely) be innocent? It doesn't serve any useful purpose. Once the guy is dead, it really doesn't matter how much it hurt. Besides, I imagine knowing that your death is imminent would be far worse than the actual physical sensation.
Your missing one of the points in an execution... its not only punishment for the guilty but its also a warning for those who commit crimes.

Seeing some guy get fried would be more initimidating than seeing someone take the eternal sleep...
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'One Florida woman, in an email to the court, described the photographs as "wonderful." '
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Your missing one of the points in an execution... its not only punishment for the guilty but its also a warning for those who commit crimes.

Seeing some guy get fried would be more initimidating than seeing someone take the eternal sleep...
actually there is no proof that the death penalty is a deterent to commit a crime....otherwise there would be zero murderers in Texas...
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Old 08-16-2004, 06:34 PM   #13
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Fuck humane...

DO you think he showed ANY mercy to the 3 women he killed???

Fuck him, he deserved to die, and it should have been a more violent and painful death than what he got...
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Old 08-16-2004, 06:37 PM   #14
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the thing is.. it doesn't matter whether he deserves it or not. We shouldn't allow him to make us monsters just because he's one. We're better than him.
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actually there is no proof that the death penalty is a deterent to commit a crime....otherwise there would be zero murderers in Texas...

Yes and no, some people do not kill because there are concequences be they moral or legal. Without the death penalty/life sentance there would be way more killing logically. But I think being killed in any fashion will do the trick, it is losing a life that matters not how it is taken. But he is right there has not been a substantial drop in murder because of the electric chair, its point is to scare but more importantly vendicate.
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Fuck humane...

DO you think he showed ANY mercy to the 3 women he killed???

Fuck him, he deserved to die, and it should have been a more violent and painful death than what he got...
so, we should stoop his level and become monsters as well?

why don't we just kill all criminals then? where do we stop?
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isn't that the Christian thing to say?
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Your missing one of the points in an execution... its not only punishment for the guilty but its also a warning for those who commit crimes.

Seeing some guy get fried would be more initimidating than seeing someone take the eternal sleep...

Why do people keep using such a ridiculous argument?

The death penalty does NOT scare off potential criminals.

The reason for that is that those who are about to commit crimes either believe they will get away with it, or haven't thought about the possibility of getting caught at all.

For some reason, people who believe in the death penalty always seem to think that criminals will use some reasoning along the lines of: "I don't really care about the risk of getting buttfucked in prison for the rest of my life, but the death penalty sure would suck".
Obviously, that is not the case. If they believed they would get caught, life in prison would also be a deterrant, as would prison sentences as low as 10 years. But, they don't think they will get caught, aren't aware of the possibility or simply don't care (people who kill other people often aren't exactly in a state which allows for a calculation of the possible risks).


Not only is the idea of the death penalty as a deterrant flawed, so is the idea of the death penalty as punishment.
Crimes that get punished with death generally are so brutal and appalling that you'd think that nobody in their right mind would even consider committing them. And, quite obviously, that line of reasoning is correct. Sane, well-adjusted people indeed do not commit such crimes.
Humans have a natural resistance towards killing other humans. It is a well-known fact that in war, many soldiers fail to actually shoot at their enemies. And remember, soldiers actually receive specific training to overcome that barrier.
The people who commit extremely violent crimes generally suffer from one or more psychological disorders, such as sociopathy, or have grown up in an environment which taught them to be violent.
Consequently, in almost all cases, the death penalty actually punishes people mainly for factors they have no control over.


Then there's also the matter of the moral position society takes by executing its unwanted elements. A society which kills criminals actively promotes an "eye for an eye"-attitude among its citizens by leading by example. Ironically, it's exactly that attitude which causes much of the violence within western societies.


Making the maximum punishment life in prison would do just as good a job at protecting society as the death penalty, and it would be a much less barbaric way to deal with crime
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depends what kind of mood you're in ;)

it also says to turn the other cheek like jesus did.

the pope has forgiven the guy who shot him, so it really depends. he even met and blessed the guy after he shot him

all i can say is if someone raped my mom or my girlfriend, i am sorry but i want to see them die.

simple as that
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Your missing one of the points in an execution... its not only punishment for the guilty but its also a warning for those who commit crimes.

Seeing some guy get fried would be more initimidating than seeing someone take the eternal sleep...
So it's ok to murder innocent people to prove a point?
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I was referring to the post that he quoted from. There have been several death row prisoners exonerated. 100 as of 19 January 2002.
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all i can say is if someone raped my mom or my girlfriend, i am sorry but i want to see them die.

simple as that
so would I, but that wouldn't make it right

hell, I'd probably be the first to pick up a gun, but again, that wouldn't make it right....
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so would I, but that wouldn't make it right

hell, I'd probably be the first to pick up a gun, but again, that wouldn't make it right....
what in this world is RIGHT?

i understand the death penalty argument, its one of the few things I wont really get into because i know some fuckers that DESERVE TO DIE.

am i the one who should make that judgement? No, if i were they would be dead.

as you say it wont make it right, but let someone kill one of your kids then come talk to me about being mr Right.

id HELP a friend kill a motherfucker that killed his kids or wife.
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DO you think he showed ANY mercy to the 3 women he killed???

Fuck him, he deserved to die, and it should have been a more violent and painful death than what he got...
exactly what i was going to say

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what in this world is RIGHT?

i understand the death penalty argument, its one of the few things I wont really get into because i know some fuckers that DESERVE TO DIE.

am i the one who should make that judgement? No, if i were they would be dead.

as you say it wont make it right, but let someone kill one of your kids then come talk to me about being mr Right.

id HELP a friend kill a motherfucker that killed his kids or wife.
so, if I kill them, I become them...
then my remaining children will be fatherless and siblingless.....

why is it ok for the state to decide if someone should die or not, yet, an individual can't make that decision?

as a man, I'd want vengeance, sure...but if I take their life, I'm no better than they are....
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Your missing one of the points in an execution... its not only punishment for the guilty but its also a warning for those who commit crimes.

Seeing some guy get fried would be more initimidating than seeing someone take the eternal sleep...

Bullshit. Executions actually creates a more violent society. It sends the message that life is not sacred and killing is not a big deal. States that have no death penalty have a lower murder rate. Anyone that thinks its a good idea to give the government the power to kill its own citizens under any circumstances is a fucking idiot. As far advanced as some like to think we are nothing more than barbarians with remote controls.
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Fuck humane...

DO you think he showed ANY mercy to the 3 women he killed???

Fuck him, he deserved to die, and it should have been a more violent and painful death than what he got...
I am with you on this one BB-Rick!

Although I am aware that the death penalty court situation is fucked up and innocent people sometimes do take a fall and that minorities often get the death penalty far more times, I do say
that the electric chair is a good deterrant but only if people see it working!

That's what the fuck it's there for!

"Oh we can't show executions on tv it's barbaric! " Yet we can show the people being murdered left and fucking right like during 9-11 or those pics of Nicole Simpson blasted all over the tabloids for her kids and friends to see.

I say we take these fuckers and fry em' LIVE ON TV and pack the execution room fulla high school kids to let em' see what's gonna happen if they fuck up. Let em' smell the fryin' fat and make em' clean it up afterwards. That'd put the fear of the law in em'. I mean the bad kids that is.

What the fuck do we think about in this country with close to 3 million in jail?

When I was in high school there was a program called 'Scared Straight' out of Rahway NJ. They would take kids into the prison and let the inmates tell them what was in store for em'. Kids would go home cryin' like babies. Even the tough kids and the jocks.

Hey, because of this guy a woman and her two daughters ain't gonna have holidays. All they did was fry him and all these bleeding heart liberals with their bullshit.

Shoulda taken him out to the swamps.
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I dont personally believe killing someone IN ANY WAY is humane perse. After all, 2 wrongs dont make a right. Thats just my 2 cents though. I know everyone has different opinions.
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murderes should be killed slowly sliced up inch by inch
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as a man, I'd want vengeance, sure...but if I take their life, I'm no better than they are....
i have never tried to be better than anyone.

men must be punished for their actions. and its paid for with their blood.

jail time is not the answer.

if i wanted to turn the other cheek i would be a christian, i am not.

what do you do with killers? slap them on the wrist? sorry doesnt work homie.

there are people walking this earth who would rape your woman, kill your babies, and laugh afterwards. these people cannot be jailed.
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Bullshit. Executions actually creates a more violent society. It sends the message that life is not sacred and killing is not a big deal. States that have no death penalty have a lower murder rate. Anyone that thinks its a good idea to give the government the power to kill its own citizens under any circumstances is a fucking idiot. As far advanced as some like to think we are nothing more than barbarians with remote controls.
Fucking idiots like you...

We have killers that get out and start killing again

Fucking idiots like you...

We have rapists out again raping and killing more victims
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i have never tried to be better than anyone.

men must be punished for their actions. and its paid for with their blood.

jail time is not the answer.

if i wanted to turn the other cheek i would be a christian, i am not.

what do you do with killers? slap them on the wrist? sorry doesnt work homie.

there are people walking this earth who would rape your woman, kill your babies, and laugh afterwards. these people cannot be jailed.
I gotta agree with Fletch on this one... theres monsters out there that'll kill, rape, steal from you without even thinking twice about it.

Theres only one thing you can do to these monsters its get rid of them permanately. Society has to be just as brutal as them as they are with their victims.
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Old 08-17-2004, 12:54 PM   #43
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Old 08-17-2004, 01:08 PM   #44
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Fucking idiots like you...

We have killers that get out and start killing again

Fucking idiots like you...

We have rapists out again raping and killing more victims
No, its fucking idiots like you. People like you cannot think beyond 2+2 and wonder why people are killing to begin with. You really think you're going to eliminate murder or other crime with the death penalty? We have the highest murder rate of any modern society and yet we are the only ones with the death penalty. Get past your animalistic instincts and try thinking for once.
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so would I, but that wouldn't make it right

hell, I'd probably be the first to pick up a gun, but again, that wouldn't make it right....
But it would make it even, as even as it could get.
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I don't understand why they don't just line them all up, blindfold them and pow pow pow one at a time.

Why do modern executions have to be such a complicated mess?

I would love to see them bring back the guillotine, or start hanging people again.

Bring the community back together at the old town square. Old school public executions will make criminals thing twice. None of this pussy "humane" bullshit.
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