Rebecca Schaeffer and the new 2257 laws - GoFuckYourself.com

erehwon · 08-17-2004, 02:14 AM

Forwarning, this is long, but worth the read.

So I like most of you have been reading the new changes to the 2257 laws and trying to make sense out of these rules, and one point really smacked me in the face...

http://www.avnonline.com/index.phpPr...tent_ID=186841

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Privacy Concerns: The so-called secondary producer provisions (which the proposed regulations perpetuate) impose a duty to obtain or maintain identity records on all persons in the chain of publication, including those with no direct contact with any of the persons depicted. The imposition of such a duty carries with it a continuing and never-ending cycle in which personal identity documents concerning models and performers will be disclosed to ever more numerous and distant persons. This obligation seriously compromises the privacy and endangers the safety of each performer and is likely to lead to such evils as identity theft, stalking, harassment, and uninvited personal sexual solicitation of the performers.

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I really hope but seriously doubt the DOJ thought of all the unintended conquences that come with the secondary producer provisions...

Robert John Bardo was the youngest of seven siblings, son of a former Air Force officer. He grew up in Tucson, Arizona, the object of much physical and mental abuse.

According to one of his teachers, Bardo was "a time bomb on the verge of exploding."

When he was 13, Bardo took a bus to Maine in search of Samantha Smith, the child that became famous for sending a letter to Mikhail Gorbachov. The authorities found him and returned him to Tucson.

Bardo became a good student, but wrote his teachers threatening letters. He was hospitalized two times because of "severe emotional damages."

At 16, while working as a janitor for a fast food restaurant, he found a better reality in television. In the fall of 1986, he became a fan of "My Sister Sam."

In particular, Bardo began to be obsessed with the character "Patti," played by Rebecca Schaeffer. He built a shrine to her in his bedroom.

Like millions of fans, Bardo started to write letters to her.

Rebecca responded, writing that his letter was "the most beautiful" that she had ever received. On her letter, she drew a peace sign, a heart, and signed it: "With love from Rebecca."

The day Bardo received the letter he wrote in his diary: "When I think of her, I would like to become famous to impress her."

In June 1987, Bardo arrived at the Burbank Studio gates where "My Sister Sam" was produced, carrying a teddy bear and a bouquet of roses for Rebecca. The guard didn't let him in.

Bardo returned a month later with a knife, but didn't gain entrance then either. In his diary, he wrote: "I don't lose. Period."

Bardo returned to Tucson. Later on, he saw her new film Class Struggle in Beverly Hills. In the movie, Rebecca had a bed scene with a male actor. This upset Bardo. He couldn't envision his innocent young girl being an adult woman. To him, she had become "one more of the bitches of Hollywood." Bardo decided Rebecca had to be punished for her immorality. He drew a diagram of her body and marked spots where he planned to shoot her. He asked his older brother, Edgar, to buy him a gun.

Bardo hired the services of a private investigator and used the Department of Motor Vehicles to gain information about Rebecca, including her address.

On July 17, 1989, Bardo arrived in Los Angeles after taking the late night bus from Tucson. He had in his possession the gun and a copy of J.D. Salinger's Catcher in the Rye. Bardo took a local bus to the Fairfax District and located Rebecca's apartment building on North Sweetzer Avenue.

Bardo rang her doorbell.

That morning, Rebecca was preparing to go to an audition with Francis Ford Coppola for a role in his upcoming film Godfather III. She heard the doorbell, but her voice intercom was broken, so she went to the front door herself.

When she opened the front door, Bardo stood there holding a photo of Rebecca for her to sign. He told her he was her "biggest fan." After thanking him, she asked him politely to leave and closed the door.

After this brief encounter, Bardo went to a neighborhood restaurant and ate breakfast. From the pay phone, he called his sister in Tennessee. He told her about his intention to visit actress Rebecca Schaeffer. Bardo's sister asked him to come for a visit. Afterwards, Bardo went into the men's room and prepared his gun.

About 10:15 a.m., Bardo returned to Rebecca's apartment building.

Rebecca answered the doorbell once again.

When she opened the front door, Bardo held out his gun and shot her in the chest.

"Why? Why?"
- Rebecca's last words

Bardo left. Thirty minutes later, Rebecca was declared dead at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center.

When Bardo's sister heard about the murder, she contacted the police about her brother. He was extradited to California. Bardo defense attorneys pleaded he had an unstable mental condition due to childhood abuse.

Bardo was tried and convicted by prosecutor Marcia Clark, who would later become most famous for her unsuccessful attempts to prosecute O.J. Simpson.

Two years later, his trial for murder concluded.

On October 29, 1991, a Judge declared to Robert John Bardo guilty of homicide in first degree and he was sentenced to life in prison without parole.

Schaeffer's murder and the Teresa Saldana assault case provoked Governor George Deukmejian to sign a law that prohibited the DMV from releasing addresses and inspired the Los Angeles Police Department to create the first Threat Management Team. The California law was passed in 1990 and became effective on the first day of 1991. The law was the first of its kind and later helped to convict Jonathan Norman, who was sentenced to 25 years in prison for attempting to carry out threats against director Steven Spielberg.

According to the legislation, a stalker is defined as "someone who willfully, maliciously and repeatedly follows or harasses another victim and who makes a credible threat with the intent to place the victim or victim's immediate family in fear of their safety." There must be at least two incidents to constitute the crime and show a "continuity of purpose" or credible threat.

By 1993, all states, as well as Canada, put anti-stalking laws into effect.

If the new amended 2257 regulations take effect, I am really fearful of all the sickos that will come out of the woodwork, open up adult sites of their favorite star/victim and use that information for their own evil sick use.

If you haven't already mailed your comments, along with all the other record keeping nightmares the new 2257 rule creates, remind the DOJ about how this law will make it easier to stalk stars, and how in the past disclosing contact information to the wrong hands has shown to be fatal for non-adult stars.

chemicaleyes · 08-17-2004, 02:24 AM

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Originally posted by erehwon
http://www.avnonline.com/index.phpPr...tent_ID=186841

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Please check the URL for proper spelling and capitalization.

slavdogg · 08-17-2004, 02:24 AM

good read

erehwon · 08-17-2004, 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by chemicaleyes
Sorry, the page you requested was not found.
Please check the URL for proper spelling and capitalization.

OK, Pine butchered it a little...

http://www.avnonline.com/index.php?P...tent_ID=186841

That should be the correct URL.

iwantchixx · 08-17-2004, 03:55 AM

Man,m I seriously hope it never comes to a situation like this. My fear is a sicko hunting down a webmaster who had a "disturbing" image.

Sarah_Jayne · 08-17-2004, 03:59 AM

I really remember the Rebecca Schaeffer case well..I guess I was at the age where I followed hollywood news etc and then that came out of the blue.

I was trying to expain these new rules to a friend the other day and I said there will be a murder within a year. I hope I am wrong but if all any 'fan' has to do is buy a set of content and have a models details then it just for that much easier.

mardigras · 08-17-2004, 06:17 AM

That was what struck me about these regulations first, more so than the difficulties of recordkeeping. Someone posted a gallery a week or so ago where the person had actually included the pic of the model holding her driver's license and passport. Even if the "sensitive information" (social security number/street address) is blurred out just having the model's real name and city can be all someone needs to locate them.

This administration leads by making fear of terror, perhaps this was a part of these new regulations; to scare people out of the business from both ends.

RicardoB · 08-17-2004, 07:36 AM

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Originally posted by mardigras
That was what struck me about these regulations first, more so than the difficulties of recordkeeping. Someone posted a gallery a week or so ago where the person had actually included the pic of the model holding her driver's license and passport. Even if the "sensitive information" (social security number/street address) is blurred out just having the model's real name and city can be all someone needs to locate them.

This administration leads by making fear of terror, perhaps this was a part of these new regulations; to scare people out of the business from both ends.

More like driving the bizz out of the country, and that at a time their economy is going not so great.

I think those that can afford it will simply move their bizz out and continue with business as usual.

EmporerEJ · 08-17-2004, 11:57 AM

I seriously hope you formed that into a comment and sent it in?

This is EXACTLY why the adult Industry needs a lobbyist in Washington.
Unless the industry gets organized to defend itself, we are all gonna get screwed.

Microsoft learned the value of representation in Washington...AFTER the government came after them.

(This is by no means an endorsement of Microsoft's methods or business practices, merely an example.)

warlock5 · 08-17-2004, 01:17 PM

Am I the only one who thinks that there are religious extremists in the DOJ who would like to see porn stars dead?

08-17-2004, 02:14 AM	#1
erehwon Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: A secure undisclosed location... Posts: 3,759	Rebecca Schaeffer and the new 2257 laws Forwarning, this is long, but worth the read. So I like most of you have been reading the new changes to the 2257 laws and trying to make sense out of these rules, and one point really smacked me in the face... http://www.avnonline.com/index.phpPr...tent_ID=186841 [...] Privacy Concerns: The so-called secondary producer provisions (which the proposed regulations perpetuate) impose a duty to obtain or maintain identity records on all persons in the chain of publication, including those with no direct contact with any of the persons depicted. The imposition of such a duty carries with it a continuing and never-ending cycle in which personal identity documents concerning models and performers will be disclosed to ever more numerous and distant persons. This obligation seriously compromises the privacy and endangers the safety of each performer and is likely to lead to such evils as identity theft, stalking, harassment, and uninvited personal sexual solicitation of the performers. [...] I really hope *but seriously doubt* the DOJ thought of all the unintended conquences that come with the secondary producer provisions... Robert John Bardo was the youngest of seven siblings, son of a former Air Force officer. He grew up in Tucson, Arizona, the object of much physical and mental abuse. According to one of his teachers, Bardo was "a time bomb on the verge of exploding." When he was 13, Bardo took a bus to Maine in search of Samantha Smith, the child that became famous for sending a letter to Mikhail Gorbachov. The authorities found him and returned him to Tucson. Bardo became a good student, but wrote his teachers threatening letters. He was hospitalized two times because of "severe emotional damages." At 16, while working as a janitor for a fast food restaurant, he found a better reality in television. In the fall of 1986, he became a fan of "My Sister Sam." In particular, Bardo began to be obsessed with the character "Patti," played by Rebecca Schaeffer. He built a shrine to her in his bedroom. Like millions of fans, Bardo started to write letters to her. Rebecca responded, writing that his letter was "the most beautiful" that she had ever received. On her letter, she drew a peace sign, a heart, and signed it: "With love from Rebecca." The day Bardo received the letter he wrote in his diary: "When I think of her, I would like to become famous to impress her." In June 1987, Bardo arrived at the Burbank Studio gates where "My Sister Sam" was produced, carrying a teddy bear and a bouquet of roses for Rebecca. The guard didn't let him in. Bardo returned a month later with a knife, but didn't gain entrance then either. In his diary, he wrote: "I don't lose. Period." Bardo returned to Tucson. Later on, he saw her new film Class Struggle in Beverly Hills. In the movie, Rebecca had a bed scene with a male actor. This upset Bardo. He couldn't envision his innocent young girl being an adult woman. To him, she had become "one more of the bitches of Hollywood." Bardo decided Rebecca had to be punished for her immorality. He drew a diagram of her body and marked spots where he planned to shoot her. He asked his older brother, Edgar, to buy him a gun. Bardo hired the services of a private investigator and used the Department of Motor Vehicles to gain information about Rebecca, including her address. On July 17, 1989, Bardo arrived in Los Angeles after taking the late night bus from Tucson. He had in his possession the gun and a copy of J.D. Salinger's Catcher in the Rye. Bardo took a local bus to the Fairfax District and located Rebecca's apartment building on North Sweetzer Avenue. Bardo rang her doorbell. That morning, Rebecca was preparing to go to an audition with Francis Ford Coppola for a role in his upcoming film Godfather III. She heard the doorbell, but her voice intercom was broken, so she went to the front door herself. When she opened the front door, Bardo stood there holding a photo of Rebecca for her to sign. He told her he was her "biggest fan." After thanking him, she asked him politely to leave and closed the door. After this brief encounter, Bardo went to a neighborhood restaurant and ate breakfast. From the pay phone, he called his sister in Tennessee. He told her about his intention to visit actress Rebecca Schaeffer. Bardo's sister asked him to come for a visit. Afterwards, Bardo went into the men's room and prepared his gun. About 10:15 a.m., Bardo returned to Rebecca's apartment building. Rebecca answered the doorbell once again. When she opened the front door, Bardo held out his gun and shot her in the chest. "Why? Why?" - Rebecca's last words Bardo left. Thirty minutes later, Rebecca was declared dead at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center. When Bardo's sister heard about the murder, she contacted the police about her brother. He was extradited to California. Bardo defense attorneys pleaded he had an unstable mental condition due to childhood abuse. Bardo was tried and convicted by prosecutor Marcia Clark, who would later become most famous for her unsuccessful attempts to prosecute O.J. Simpson. Two years later, his trial for murder concluded. On October 29, 1991, a Judge declared to Robert John Bardo guilty of homicide in first degree and he was sentenced to life in prison without parole. Schaeffer's murder and the Teresa Saldana assault case provoked Governor George Deukmejian to sign a law that prohibited the DMV from releasing addresses and inspired the Los Angeles Police Department to create the first Threat Management Team. The California law was passed in 1990 and became effective on the first day of 1991. The law was the first of its kind and later helped to convict Jonathan Norman, who was sentenced to 25 years in prison for attempting to carry out threats against director Steven Spielberg. According to the legislation, a stalker is defined as "someone who willfully, maliciously and repeatedly follows or harasses another victim and who makes a credible threat with the intent to place the victim or victim's immediate family in fear of their safety." There must be at least two incidents to constitute the crime and show a "continuity of purpose" or credible threat. By 1993, all states, as well as Canada, put anti-stalking laws into effect. If the new amended 2257 regulations take effect, I am really fearful of all the sickos that will come out of the woodwork, open up adult sites of their favorite star/victim and use that information for their own evil sick use. If you haven't already mailed your comments, along with all the other record keeping nightmares the new 2257 rule creates, remind the DOJ about how this law will make it easier to stalk stars, and how in the past disclosing contact information to the wrong hands has shown to be fatal for non-adult stars. __________________ Money NEVER $leep$...

08-17-2004, 06:17 AM	#7
mardigras Bon temps! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: down yonder Posts: 14,194	That was what struck me about these regulations first, more so than the difficulties of recordkeeping. Someone posted a gallery a week or so ago where the person had actually included the pic of the model holding her driver's license and passport. Even if the "sensitive information" (social security number/street address) is blurred out just having the model's real name and city can be all someone needs to locate them. This administration leads by making fear of terror, perhaps this was a part of these new regulations; to scare people out of the business from both ends. __________________ .

08-17-2004, 11:57 AM	#9
EmporerEJ Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Political subdivision United States, Continent North America, Planet Earth, Sol System, Milky Way Galaxy Posts: 282	I seriously hope you formed that into a comment and sent it in? This is EXACTLY why the adult Industry needs a lobbyist in Washington. Unless the industry gets organized to defend itself, we are all gonna get screwed. Microsoft learned the value of representation in Washington...AFTER the government came after them. (This is by no means an endorsement of Microsoft's methods or business practices, merely an example.) __________________ Eric J. White Earn $$$ with the Virtual Sex Machine Affiliate program!

08-17-2004, 02:24 AM	#3
slavdogg Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,570	good read

08-17-2004, 03:55 AM	#5
iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	Man,m I seriously hope it never comes to a situation like this. My fear is a sicko hunting down a webmaster who had a "disturbing" image.

08-17-2004, 03:59 AM	#6
Sarah_Jayne Now with more Jayne Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 40,077	I really remember the Rebecca Schaeffer case well..I guess I was at the age where I followed hollywood news etc and then that came out of the blue. I was trying to expain these new rules to a friend the other day and I said there will be a murder within a year. I hope I am wrong but if all any 'fan' has to do is buy a set of content and have a models details then it just for that much easier.

08-17-2004, 01:17 PM	#10
warlock5 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Uranus Posts: 2,808	Am I the only one who thinks that there are religious extremists in the DOJ who would like to see porn stars dead?