alias

Please just post the "PROOF" here, I dont have icq installed.

Also why can't "The REAL MANUFACTURER who came out with the extender" & "isn't very happy" post here then if he is so unhappy?

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Headless,

Well have you ever seen the original product? probably not. What fastsize sells looks more or less identical to the original product.
The original product has been developed in 1994-95. And has been sold ever since.
So tell me how fastsize can sell the same product when they have been only selling the past year?

A LOT of material they use has been taken from the product we sell on www.vimaxextender.com
Product sold by us has the medical backings of it and all research done. Fastsize has a copy but still uses some of the material.

A lot of people are confused and think we are copy cats. But hey, i can prove to anybody its the other way around.

Plus i doubt its appropriate to call our company a rip off. We have been online since 99 and paid millions of dollars out on time.

Steve G

i wont post the medical file of our product here for all to copy and use it on their own sites. however i'll do better.
I speak on the phone with the manufacturer all the time and we are taking care of this problem with them.
Also i have enough proof that i already told others. if its not enough i'll do this:
i'll try to get the protype pics of the extender device from 1994-5 when it was developed and will email you if you wish.

Again we are not a new program. we have thousands of affiliates in our programs and paid out millions of dollars over the time.
We wouldnt do this if we didn't have the proof and backing of the real manufacturer.

alias

so why did you not have the product out in 99? stop with the semantics..

www.FastSize.com introduced the product to the adult industry as well as the rest of the web.. .

You were not first. You are not the original.

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alias

ok man, if you knew about the fucking product since 95 you would have had a program to sell it already.

All you did is source a device supplier AFTER YOU SAW FASTSIZE.

Stop trying to play webmasters for fools, we know which came out first and is therefore the original.. .

Anything after is a copy, the rest of the shit you are saying is irrelevant.

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dropped9

Who cares if its the original or a no-name brand? I dont. As long as the shit sells thats all that matters.

Steve G

Alias,
you are confusing 2 different things man. the only beef i have is that we are called a copy cat of the fast size product. Which in fact is the other way around.
If they started promoting it first more power to them. However there is a problem when they try to claim that they are the original extender device, when in fact they are not ( they missed it by 8 years or so)

We are trying to stop the bullshit around here where everybody is brainwashed. We are in the agreement with the manufacturer to stop this brainwashing since they are really not happy that somebody is using their materials on the site and basically copied the whole product without doing any research.

BradM

Does this company have a patent on the product? are the pursuing legal action? If not I dont see how this all fucking matters anyways?

chemicaleyes

bump

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Chris

Proper actions are being taken Brad.


and Headless... your comment about when you got your product from fast size and it had the andro seal on it ... That made me chuckle.... Do your homework headless. Seriously Andro is not the oringal

Take a look at this


http://new.fastsize.com
http://www.fastsize.com

witch product ARE THEY SHIPPING? The white product ?? Or the black one?

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About Andro,

Do you guys want to sell a product from company that buys the product from ANDRO,

well here is something you might find interesting:

1) Basal ring not contoured to pubic bone giving pains quickly

2) Patients with skin allergy should not touch metal parts of the stretcher

3) The metal pieces will rust inside and out after cleaning.

4) No approval from health authorities

5) Everything is a copy, even testdata is taken from our tests. Other testdata are "Fake".

6) No CE Mark (European Quality Mark)

7) No "Protection Pad" which is included in the Extender (Protection of gland)

8) No exact reading of the traction involved

Now ask yourself. is it the product you want to sell? or do you want to sell a product that is legit

Chris

Bumpin that question

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[Brian]

Steve/Chris,


Your libelous statements are not appreciated, and will only result in a lawsuit. Is it worth it? I've already begun this process TODAY.

You know NOTHING about my company; posting a bunch of second hand info here that has nothing to do with you shows a severe lack of business acumen.

I have sold thousands of the same device you are selling, enough said. You guys 'did your homework' and essentially cloned our site and are attempting to capitalize on our market research; yet did you hear me or any of my employees bringing that out in public? That is the nature of the biz and if you can out-market us, go for it. But I don't appreciate you making unfounded comments about my company, I suggest you guys stop doing that immediately.

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Chris

We where simply defending our company agasint the comments that we copied you guys

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Steve G

Brian,

1. Tell me where we copied your site?
2. The only reason this whole started is that the you marketed your product as the only real extender device and you let webmasters believe it. Now when somebody else comes along they take heat. If you do a good job and explain your affiliates that you DIDN'T INVENT the product then there is no problem at all. However you get people confused and we have to suffer when we sell the real thing.
and as far as copying your site,
Please don't make me point to the stuff you are using that doesn't belong to you.

We will not get flamed for being a copy cat because you know better what product we sell and it definately is not a copy of your product.

exitmoney

I agree with Brian, lets all stop. The point was made that OA Internet Services Ltd. extender is not a copy of fastsize's one. The point was also made that fastsize sold the extender on the internet before OA Internet Services Ltd. and they deserve the credit for that.

Now about choosing one program over the other is entirely up to the webmaster, everybody should do their own tests and see what converts better and makes them more money. Nobody could say one company is better than the other without giving facts and it all depends on your traffic as who converts better or not. So there is no who's better and who's worst , or should I put it in the context "who's dick is bigger"

Why can't two or three companies sell the same type of products without getting to a war. Look how many thousands of porn sites are out there and you don't see each one of them fight on boards. Let the webmasters make their decissions alone.

Let's everybody calm down and stop the irrelevant fight please. Focus on discussions about how to promote those 2 great products and how to improve your business and make more money from it as there is a huge pie for all of us out there. That's how we learn and that's how we improve, competition is good for everybody that pushes us forward so only have to gain for 2-3 or as many companies as there will be in the future.

Good luck to fastsize and of course to our webmasters as well

BradM

Octav... classy. Now that's how you resolve a situation. Not through debate and arguing. Very well handled man.

And yes, MANY companies can sell the same product. I mean hell look at all the penis pill companies out there!

Chris

I have been saying that the whole time :-/

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