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kush · 06-12-2001, 12:24 AM

I dont send significant amounts of traffic to ARS sites anymore for my opinion to have any real relevance on my their performance so I'm asking you all...
I've noticed that at their message boards there have been quite a few posts about people saying how HORRIBLY their conversions have been this past week or so...
People posting stats like:
126172 101396 101396 1 1:101396 35.00
or
0:19283
So what I want to know is how are you guys all doing with ARS recently, honestly? I'm going to make a big push to lots of free sites and I need a big, established, and reliable sponsor with lots of paysites in lots of niches and I want to know if I can count on ARS to make me $$$ (plus I like the rewards system

).
Comments/opinions/whatever?

[This message has been edited by kush (edited 06-12-2001).]

kush · 06-12-2001, 12:33 AM

By the way, I'm not trying to question the integrity of ARS AT ALL or to start any sort of pissing/bashing match! I think at ARS they are great, honest people and they have always been there to help me with any special requests that I have had. I'm simply trying to get more info so I can maximize my revenue!

Sticks · 06-12-2001, 12:43 AM

My ARS ratio's vary between 1:190 and 1:5000 a week, usually 1:400 which is pretty good front page raw, compared to many other partnership type programs which count only second page unique.

Unriz3n · 06-12-2001, 02:30 AM

Last week i was 0:3000 =/ but i believe my stats will level themselves out. I promote ARS on alot of my freesites and I think they are a nice sponsor. They pay on time and are pretty straight.

This might just be the ditch we have to crawl through till mid summer on conversions. Hopefully it'll all even out.

Theo · 06-12-2001, 02:34 AM

about 0:1100 from tgp traffic

Theo · 06-12-2001, 02:36 AM

I remember some comments i have read about half a year ago....If your sponsor converts 1:1000+ with tgp traffic perhaps it's time to change!

[This message has been edited by Soul_Rebel (edited 06-12-2001).]

Wizzo · 06-12-2001, 08:47 AM

I don't actively promote ARS anymore, but I have seen conversions go up and down in major swings, however my traffic to them has remained the same....strange?

Mike_001 · 06-12-2001, 09:03 AM

My ratio is 1:750. I'm only promoting two sites, amateur university and all petite. Especially the last one converts well for me.

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eRock · 06-12-2001, 12:06 PM

I'm about 1:250 with them at this point, at least that's what the stats are telling me...but almost all traffic I send them is very targeted...

ldinternet · 06-12-2001, 01:23 PM

The fact that conversions are so bad, I believe, is because ARS are completely 100% honest and not shaving stats to make things look impressive.

For example, I have only promoted Pink Choclate on ONE gallery, and that was six months ago. I still get over 150 clicks per month to Pink Chocolate from that gallery (not including traffic from exit consoles on other ars sites), that 150 clicks per month is more than any other old gallery that I've built for any other sponsor, including both iTeens per signup and Fetish Cash per signup (which are my two best sponsors (even though those dumb fucks at TopCash closed my per click a/c))

Balljoints · 06-12-2001, 03:58 PM

Wizzo, you are having exactly the same type of thing with them I am. 1 week I will convert 1:200 with them, and the next week with the same type and quanity of traffic(sometimes a little more or less traffic) And the next week it will be 1:2000.

I do find it strange how the conversions swing so bad. I can say a couple of things they have going for them that I love. A LOT of different niches and they ALWAYS pay on time.

Balljoints

MrBrian · 06-12-2001, 07:50 PM

my ratio is 1:50ish

dont jinx me

sweetjimmy · 06-13-2001, 03:18 AM

1:50?

You must be a good salesman or a bad liar.

telepc · 06-13-2001, 07:34 AM

I have had the same problem with ars....

one week its 1:350, the other week its 1:2000

Ars doesn't know how to shave I guess
if they would shave the right way I
would have an average 1:750 hehehehe

I only promote sites where I can log in to see my stats right at the credit card processor, like my stats at IBILL or CCBill

I promote gay sites at http://www.goldcash.net and my fetish sites at http://www.bondagedollars.com

maybe something for you????

Terian · 06-13-2001, 09:57 AM

I used to promote them and noticed up and down ratios. They were very slow to pay; their database was screwed up. I don't recommend them at all.

gleem · 06-13-2001, 10:36 AM

telepc

in your experience does Gold Cash's Gay sites convert better than ARS's gay sites?

I am getting sick of ARS, I can't handle their strange swings in stats. My first account I convert at 1:160, my second account is more like 1:500 and my 3rd account is usually at 1:2800. And it's all from the same traffic sources? Go figure.

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doeser · 06-13-2001, 12:14 PM

hmmm...
0:1 is not bad at all,but i think the rest is not thus good.

maybe the filtered traffic would work bether,but with my 404-ars-promotion i stay at 1:3000

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deluxe · 06-13-2001, 12:20 PM

hm, try conversioncash they confert 1 in 20-30 on avs traffic for me, so i guess tgp would be around 200 - 300 ?

well, just try them i like there sites

i would appriciate it if you would use my referal it's in my signature

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Unriz3n · 06-14-2001, 05:19 AM

Ok, how in the HELL do you people get ratios of under 1:700 or under 1:1500????!! I have yet to come close to that type of ratio and the majority of my traffic is from SE, Link List and Toplist. WTF am I doing wrong!? Want to see my portal? http://www.adultclips.net/ many of the free sites are promoting ARS yet I simply cant seem to convert, HELP

kush · 06-14-2001, 01:33 PM

Unriz3n -
That looks like a pretty good site and targetted advertising with your ARS ads... Your ratios are really that bad with it? How much traffic are you pushing to your site, it looks larger than your typical free site, maybe you have some stale traffic / bookmarks and need some banner rotation?
I hope link lists traffic doesn't convert too poorly with ARS....

Unriz3n · 06-14-2001, 07:13 PM

Thanks Kush, the portal page gets around 1k+ a day and each of the small freesites listed on the portal also have their own traffic. Its mostly Link List traffic. =/

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kloofyboy · 06-15-2001, 02:26 AM

My experience with ARS is that conversion is very cyclical...two weeks low, two weeks regular, two weeks high, then back to low again. When my conversion ratio dips down, I change ARS links and use new text. ARS is a great sponsor and has a huge stable of sites to fit most surfers' tastes.

I have an Ebony double opt-in email list of 6000+ subscribers, I'd like to swap traffic with ebony gallery webmasters. Email me for details.

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Originally posted by kush:
I dont send significant amounts of traffic to ARS sites anymore for my opinion to have any real relevance on my their performance so I'm asking you all...
I've noticed that at their message boards there have been quite a few posts about people saying how HORRIBLY their conversions have been this past week or so...
People posting stats like:
126172 101396 101396 1 1:101396 35.00
or
0:19283
So what I want to know is how are you guys all doing with ARS recently, honestly? I'm going to make a big push to lots of free sites and I need a big, established, and reliable sponsor with lots of paysites in lots of niches and I want to know if I can count on ARS to make me $$$ (plus I like the rewards system ).
Comments/opinions/whatever?

[This message has been edited by kush (edited 06-12-2001).]

kush · 06-15-2001, 02:48 AM

by the way, I noticed a thread over at Porncity's BBS about ARS as well... seems like I wasn't the only one worried :/

this is kind of off topic, but I have a theory that Lensman took alot of Mayor's BBS webmasters!

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MrBrian · 06-15-2001, 11:14 AM

doeser- you got that signup off exit traffic

Unriz3n · 06-15-2001, 07:48 PM

Think its almost time to change sponsors...so far for the month i'm 0:7000 and its not TGP Traffic....SIGH WTF.

Theo · 06-16-2001, 07:41 AM

ARS has a great full page ad of sexcounter in their members area.Sexcounter pays 4c/unique click.So don't wait, drop ARS banners and put counters instead!

jeanette · 06-16-2001, 01:29 PM

I see so much pissing on ARS board about conversions it really annoys me, theres nothing useful on that board, just complainers who probably send 10 hits a day and don't know why they don't have 10 signups ... ok... done rant. My conversions with ALL My programs fluctuate. I check overall, over a month, a year, or some longer time period in order to find out if the program is worth sticking with. That said, my overall conversion ratio with them since I started with them is 1:253 thats 18 months worth of stats. This includes 1:131 with anal passions, 1:189 with chix with dix (yum yum!) 1:123 with elder erotica, 1:269 expecting sex and 1:88 with sinful hardcore. My worst converting site with them is teen dreamer, I have never been able to sell straight up teen sites

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Unriz3n · 06-17-2001, 03:30 AM

Don't know if that was directed toward me jeanette, but i've sent PLENTY of traffic to ARS and my conversions are less than stellar. My best week was 1:1200 with 6 signups. I would like to think that it is my fault and that I'm not selling the sponsor correctly, but my job is to send the traffic TO the sponsor. With a single freesite listing I am able to send an average of 60-80% of the traffic to the sponsor. That means that I'm doing my job...I'm talking the site up enough without false statements to get that surfer to click and go further. Maybe I'm wrong here....maybe I'm missing something...I would surely love to have ratios of 1:300. If I had those ratios right now with my current traffic, I would be able to quit my job and begin webmastering full time...EASILY. If you can point out what i'm doing wrong, please feel free to browse the the freesites at my portal http://www.adultclips.net/main.shtml and let me know.

phantom · 06-17-2001, 06:22 AM

i normally average a signup a day with ARS but i havent had one since wednesday. i dunno why but they are a very up and down sponsor at times

ldinternet · 06-17-2001, 06:48 AM

everyone is promoting them
ibill and their billing
not working as hard as you used to
surfers with limp dicks

these are all factors. you may have earned 140$ per day for the past 8 months with ars but you can't expect consistency in this biz, even after that amount of time.

that wasn't directed at anyone just my thoughts. if you are unhappy with ars then change sponsors there is no point in losing money even if it is only for a few days.

06-12-2001, 12:24 AM	#1
kush Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,382	Adult Revenue Service I dont send significant amounts of traffic to ARS sites anymore for my opinion to have any real relevance on my their performance so I'm asking you all... I've noticed that at their message boards there have been quite a few posts about people saying how HORRIBLY their conversions have been this past week or so... People posting stats like: 126172 101396 101396 1 1:101396 35.00 or 0:19283 So what I want to know is how are you guys all doing with ARS recently, honestly? I'm going to make a big push to lots of free sites and I need a big, established, and reliable sponsor with lots of paysites in lots of niches and I want to know if I can count on ARS to make me $$$ (plus I like the rewards system ). Comments/opinions/whatever? [This message has been edited by kush (edited 06-12-2001).]

06-12-2001, 12:33 AM	#2
kush Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,382	By the way, I'm not trying to question the integrity of ARS AT ALL or to start any sort of pissing/bashing match! I think at ARS they are great, honest people and they have always been there to help me with any special requests that I have had. I'm simply trying to get more info so I can maximize my revenue!

06-12-2001, 12:43 AM	#3
Sticks Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Sydney, AUSTRALIA Posts: 91	My ARS ratio's vary between 1:190 and 1:5000 a week, usually 1:400 which is pretty good front page raw, compared to many other partnership type programs which count only second page unique.

06-12-2001, 02:30 AM	#4
Unriz3n Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 378	Last week i was 0:3000 =/ but i believe my stats will level themselves out. I promote ARS on alot of my freesites and I think they are a nice sponsor. They pay on time and are pretty straight. This might just be the ditch we have to crawl through till mid summer on conversions. Hopefully it'll all even out.

06-12-2001, 02:34 AM	#5
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	about 0:1100 from tgp traffic

06-12-2001, 02:36 AM	#6
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	I remember some comments i have read about half a year ago....If your sponsor converts 1:1000+ with tgp traffic perhaps it's time to change! [This message has been edited by Soul_Rebel (edited 06-12-2001).]

06-12-2001, 08:47 AM	#7
Wizzo 2011 GFY Hall of Fame! Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Back in Texas! Posts: 15,224	I don't actively promote ARS anymore, but I have seen conversions go up and down in major swings, however my traffic to them has remained the same....strange?

06-12-2001, 09:03 AM	#8
Mike_001 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Enschede, The Netherlands Posts: 40	My ratio is 1:750. I'm only promoting two sites, amateur university and all petite. Especially the last one converts well for me. ------------------ Dutch TGP: http://www.sexgalleries.org

06-12-2001, 12:06 PM	#9
eRock Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Chi-town Posts: 3,112	I'm about 1:250 with them at this point, at least that's what the stats are telling me...but almost all traffic I send them is very targeted...

06-12-2001, 01:23 PM	#10
ldinternet Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 8,245	The fact that conversions are so bad, I believe, is because ARS are completely 100% honest and not shaving stats to make things look impressive. For example, I have only promoted Pink Choclate on ONE gallery, and that was six months ago. I still get over 150 clicks per month to Pink Chocolate from that gallery (not including traffic from exit consoles on other ars sites), that 150 clicks per month is more than any other old gallery that I've built for any other sponsor, including both iTeens per signup and Fetish Cash per signup (which are my two best sponsors (even though those dumb fucks at TopCash closed my per click a/c))

06-12-2001, 03:58 PM	#11
Balljoints Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Indiana Posts: 357	Wizzo, you are having exactly the same type of thing with them I am. 1 week I will convert 1:200 with them, and the next week with the same type and quanity of traffic(sometimes a little more or less traffic) And the next week it will be 1:2000. I do find it strange how the conversions swing so bad. I can say a couple of things they have going for them that I love. A LOT of different niches and they ALWAYS pay on time. Balljoints

06-12-2001, 07:50 PM	#12
MrBrian Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 1,215	my ratio is 1:50ish dont jinx me

06-13-2001, 03:18 AM	#13
sweetjimmy Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Harlem, NY, U.S.A Posts: 777	1:50? You must be a good salesman or a bad liar.

06-13-2001, 07:34 AM	#14
telepc Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: nh Posts: 4	I have had the same problem with ars.... one week its 1:350, the other week its 1:2000 Ars doesn't know how to shave I guess if they would shave the right way I would have an average 1:750 hehehehe I only promote sites where I can log in to see my stats right at the credit card processor, like my stats at IBILL or CCBill I promote gay sites at http://www.goldcash.net and my fetish sites at http://www.bondagedollars.com maybe something for you????

06-13-2001, 09:57 AM	#15
Terian Banned Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: La Verne, Ca USA Posts: 5	I used to promote them and noticed up and down ratios. They were very slow to pay; their database was screwed up. I don't recommend them at all.

06-13-2001, 10:36 AM	#16
gleem Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunny Land Posts: 5,593	telepc in your experience does Gold Cash's Gay sites convert better than ARS's gay sites? I am getting sick of ARS, I can't handle their strange swings in stats. My first account I convert at 1:160, my second account is more like 1:500 and my 3rd account is usually at 1:2800. And it's all from the same traffic sources? Go figure. ------------------ Take the AVS webmaster survey today at: <A HREF="http://www.avslo unge.com/survey.html" TARGET=_blank> http://www.avslounge.c om/survey.html</A>

06-13-2001, 12:14 PM	#17
doeser Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: swiss alps Posts: 205	hmmm... 0:1 is not bad at all,but i think the rest is not thus good. maybe the filtered traffic would work bether,but with my 404-ars-promotion i stay at 1:3000 [This message has been edited by doeser (edited 06-13-2001).]

06-13-2001, 12:20 PM	#18
deluxe Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,434	hm, try conversioncash they confert 1 in 20-30 on avs traffic for me, so i guess tgp would be around 200 - 300 ? well, just try them i like there sites i would appriciate it if you would use my referal it's in my signature ------------------ Coversioncash Rocks It's not just being there, it's doing it [email protected] 77717734

06-14-2001, 05:19 AM	#19
Unriz3n Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 378	Ok, how in the HELL do you people get ratios of under 1:700 or under 1:1500????!! I have yet to come close to that type of ratio and the majority of my traffic is from SE, Link List and Toplist. WTF am I doing wrong!? Want to see my portal? http://www.adultclips.net/ many of the free sites are promoting ARS yet I simply cant seem to convert, HELP

06-14-2001, 01:33 PM	#20
kush Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,382	Unriz3n - That looks like a pretty good site and targetted advertising with your ARS ads... Your ratios are really that bad with it? How much traffic are you pushing to your site, it looks larger than your typical free site, maybe you have some stale traffic / bookmarks and need some banner rotation? I hope link lists traffic doesn't convert too poorly with ARS....

06-14-2001, 07:13 PM	#21
Unriz3n Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 378	Thanks Kush, the portal page gets around 1k+ a day and each of the small freesites listed on the portal also have their own traffic. Its mostly Link List traffic. =/ [This message has been edited by Unriz3n (edited 06-14-2001).]

06-15-2001, 02:48 AM	#23
kush Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,382	by the way, I noticed a thread over at Porncity's BBS about ARS as well... seems like I wasn't the only one worried :/ this is kind of off topic, but I have a theory that Lensman took alot of Mayor's BBS webmasters! ------------------ <A HREF="http://www.dailysteam.com/webmasters.html" TARGET=_blank> My Webmaster's Page</A> General Webmaster Info, seen from my point of view ;)<A HREF="http://www.dailysteam.com/sponsors.html" TARGET=_blank> Sponsors List Page</A> Organized, honest listing of sponsors and my comments on them

06-15-2001, 11:14 AM	#24
MrBrian Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 1,215	doeser- you got that signup off exit traffic

06-15-2001, 07:48 PM	#25
Unriz3n Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 378	Think its almost time to change sponsors...so far for the month i'm 0:7000 and its not TGP Traffic....SIGH WTF.

06-16-2001, 07:41 AM	#26
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	ARS has a great full page ad of sexcounter in their members area.Sexcounter pays 4c/unique click.So don't wait, drop ARS banners and put counters instead!

06-16-2001, 01:29 PM	#27
jeanette Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 37	I see so much pissing on ARS board about conversions it really annoys me, theres nothing useful on that board, just complainers who probably send 10 hits a day and don't know why they don't have 10 signups ... ok... done rant. My conversions with ALL My programs fluctuate. I check overall, over a month, a year, or some longer time period in order to find out if the program is worth sticking with. That said, my overall conversion ratio with them since I started with them is 1:253 thats 18 months worth of stats. This includes 1:131 with anal passions, 1:189 with chix with dix (yum yum!) 1:123 with elder erotica, 1:269 expecting sex and 1:88 with sinful hardcore. My worst converting site with them is teen dreamer, I have never been able to sell straight up teen sites ------------------ ----------------------- Free hosting tgp posting allowed at http://www.pornouniverse.net

06-17-2001, 03:30 AM	#28
Unriz3n Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 378	Don't know if that was directed toward me jeanette, but i've sent PLENTY of traffic to ARS and my conversions are less than stellar. My best week was 1:1200 with 6 signups. I would like to think that it is my fault and that I'm not selling the sponsor correctly, but my job is to send the traffic TO the sponsor. With a single freesite listing I am able to send an average of 60-80% of the traffic to the sponsor. That means that I'm doing my job...I'm talking the site up enough without false statements to get that surfer to click and go further. Maybe I'm wrong here....maybe I'm missing something...I would surely love to have ratios of 1:300. If I had those ratios right now with my current traffic, I would be able to quit my job and begin webmastering full time...EASILY. If you can point out what i'm doing wrong, please feel free to browse the the freesites at my portal http://www.adultclips.net/main.shtml and let me know.

06-17-2001, 06:22 AM	#29
phantom Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 27	i normally average a signup a day with ARS but i havent had one since wednesday. i dunno why but they are a very up and down sponsor at times

06-17-2001, 06:48 AM	#30
ldinternet Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 8,245	everyone is promoting them ibill and their billing not working as hard as you used to surfers with limp dicks these are all factors. you may have earned 140$ per day for the past 8 months with ars but you can't expect consistency in this biz, even after that amount of time. that wasn't directed at anyone just my thoughts. if you are unhappy with ars then change sponsors there is no point in losing money even if it is only for a few days.