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Methodcash Rick · 10-11-2004, 04:28 PM

400 Ibill NON-Updates

Yup, I noticed the same exact thing...

I also checked the rebills that went through, and guess what, they're VISA cards, not MasterCard...

Atleast they show up in CMI, but it makes we wonder too...

Morphious · 10-11-2004, 04:33 PM

cause I got a Visa decline rebill email today - and the ONLY way they can get a decline is if they are running the cards!

Methodcash Rick · 10-11-2004, 04:35 PM

Here's another thought...

Are they running and collecting on MY rebills, and paying other webmasters with those funds? Cuz they sure as fuck haven't been paying me...

Hmmmmmmmmmm

imageman · 10-11-2004, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BB-Rick
Here's another thought...

Are they running and collecting on MY rebills, and paying other webmasters with those funds? Cuz they sure as fuck haven't been paying me...

Hmmmmmmmmmm

Id say that was a good guess

Fuck Ibill

FaberX · 10-11-2004, 05:07 PM

I've also noticed the same, all I can think of is that maybe they are still able to process visa for european surfers... I've noticed quite a few .de email addresses between the few transactions that when thru.

Now, if anyone from ibill is reading this, would be a pretty good time to post and let us know what the heck is going on, you promised an update, my rep promised news regarding ibill complete, and still, you are a no show.

Morphious · 10-11-2004, 05:55 PM

well I can tell you the ones they are rebilling with me are not Europe ones , they are 99% US

keyboard warrior · 10-11-2004, 07:46 PM

some rebills - visa's are going through! without the new contract.

keyboard warrior · 10-11-2004, 08:31 PM

Hey MarkIbill why dont you POST SOME INFO AS to what the hell is going on?

Methodcash Rick · 10-11-2004, 08:54 PM

All the ones that have run for me, are US, Japan, and a very few European customers...

I'm still wondering how they're doing it, and if I will ever get paid..

I have not, and will not sign their bullshit contract for the "merchant account", so they're billing my rebills somehow...

Oh well, guess I'll just have to wait and see, since no one from IBill is forthcoming with any information...

Sophmaster · 10-11-2004, 09:20 PM

They have to pay this week , enough is enough !

twist · 10-12-2004, 05:12 AM

I got my eu-revshare checks today.

Webby · 10-12-2004, 05:34 AM

Speechless :-)

Why the hell would anyone even consider something so damned stupid as having some merchant account with a company that can't even run it's business?

I suppose this is another way of:

(a) trying to grasp a client before they jump ship, and

(b) pull some money in quick to cover their asses and be left with "something" to sell the next sad ass who has ambitions of owning iBill.

Pathetic!

collegeboyslive · 10-12-2004, 07:14 AM

OK my very real question is:

given that things happen and ignoring the visa mess for a moment. They still got paid for mastercard and they still got paid for checks and they still got paid for 900# sales.

so why havnt we been given a payout of those monies?

after all Ibill HAS received them and is in fact still rebilling them.

Sounds like a case of robbing peter to pay paul

collegeboyslive · 10-12-2004, 07:21 AM

I decided to ask my question to ibill here is their reply:

All previous check, 900# and mastercars were handled by first data.

they have switched to a new bank that seems to be able to process these without any new forms being filled out.

hummm ?

woodman · 10-12-2004, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by collegeboyslive
I decided to ask my question to ibill here is their reply:

All previous check, 900# and mastercars were handled by first data.

they have switched to a new bank that seems to be able to process these without any new forms being filled out.

hummm ?

you don't really believe First Data was processing checks and web900 do you?

TheLegacy · 10-12-2004, 07:32 AM

so help me catch up here.. has anyone gotten paid??
Has IBill been delaying their promises??

Methodcash Rick · 10-12-2004, 08:47 AM

I know that SOME EU customers have been paid, but I don't know of any US people that have been paid yet...

Penrod · 10-12-2004, 08:48 AM

Another update message will be posted on Monday, October 11, 2004 at 5:00 p.m. EST.

Never saw it. Did anyone get an update?

Morphious · 10-12-2004, 10:13 AM

Just Spoke to my Rep.

Question 1. How can my rebills be billing and I an get decline emails for US visas.?

Answer - Impossible, we have not had visa in our system for 10 days now.

- so I continued to explain to him that this is impossible and that they would have to authenticate with Visa to rebill decline some one! and that the cmi shows them going through!!!!

Answer, must be some kind of Technical glitch.. Because impossible!

So if ANYONE out there knows of a user that they can contact to have them check there bank records and verify if ibill is processing cards or not ( Please be aware that there is a rumor that they are processing through the Philippines , so Please check for other names as well !!!!! )

Question. - What about the announcement - was to be yesterday! .

Answer. - I just got out of a meeting and we will have an answer on Friday as to weather we are going to do this type of business or scale back our business.

Question - When are the US customers going to be paid, - as I have to pay my rent!

Answer - we are working on it.

Wow all I can say is that the first Q-A took 10 minutes of me explaining to him that there is NO way that some one can be declined , and NOT be authenticated from a Visa account!!!

keyboard warrior · 10-12-2004, 10:34 AM

it could be a last dodge tactic and then close up shop, get all they can before they go under.

It happened to other proccessing companies, why not IBILL.

Methodcash Rick · 10-12-2004, 10:36 AM

I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt up until the point, that I saw Visa transactions being processed, no payments forth coming, and the "run around" that they have been giving to everyone...

Time for me to jump the sinking ship, on any little piece of floating debris I can find...

boobmaster · 10-12-2004, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Morphious

So if ANYONE out there knows of a user that they can contact to have them check there bank records and verify if ibill is processing cards or not ( Please be aware that there is a rumor that they are processing through the Philippines , so Please check for other names as well !!!!! )

They don't seem to be processing any of my accounts either. I think this ship is about to sink.

boobmaster · 10-12-2004, 10:43 AM

Not that it matters at this point, but are they requiring ALL their clients to sign up for ibill direct and pay the additional $1,500.00 in VISA fees, or can clients refuse this?

Calvinguy · 10-12-2004, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by boobmaster
They don't seem to be processing any of my accounts either. I think this ship is about to sink.

Are you even a client of Ibill? Some of your questions makes me wonder...

tony286 · 10-12-2004, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Calvinguy
Are you even a client of Ibill? Some of your questions makes me wonder...

Very good question

scardog · 10-12-2004, 11:04 AM

They aren't processing Visa's for me, but they are processing Mastercards.

oldnewbie · 10-12-2004, 12:52 PM

Believe me, I am VERY unhappy with Ibill right now, but in all fairness:

I just searched through this last weeks worth of credit card rebills in CMI and didn't find any Visa rebills. Only MC and Discover.

And I also didn't find any Visa declines listed.

I also have a theory on the Visa declines others are seeing. It's possible they made it past Ibill's current Visa ban because the decline was already in the works... You know how it usually tries 2 or 3 times, and says something like "rebill declined, will try again on [date]"... Perhaps the declines showing up are simply the ones that were scheduled to retry before Visa was taken out of the system and they just made it through a loophole and went ahead and retried when they were scheduled to.

crazies · 10-12-2004, 01:25 PM

I received my US Revshare check today so it looks like they are coming through with their word.

sincity · 10-12-2004, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boobmaster
They don't seem to be processing any of my accounts either. I think this ship is about to sink.

BOOBMASTER is a fucking liar. He wrote last night that he did not know that IBILL was not processing Visa. How can you not know they are not processing VISA when everyone on this board has been writing about it for the last 2 weeks.

Everyone on this board knows he is an asshole and he cannot be trusted.

IBILL has started to pay their US clients.

FaberX · 10-12-2004, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sincity
IBILL has started to pay their US clients.

Do you mean their sponsored merchants or just the revsharers?

Jack76 · 10-12-2004, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sincity
IBILL has started to pay their US clients.

And what about reserves?

CC · 10-12-2004, 04:33 PM

Well it looks like my rep, Syliva Perez, was one of the 50 people fired. My emails to her are now bouncing back to me. God, and I thought the customer service couldn't get any worse than it already was

Shoplifter · 10-12-2004, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CC
Well it looks like my rep, Syliva Perez, was one of the 50 people fired. My emails to her are now bouncing back to me. God, and I thought the customer service couldn't get any worse than it already was

Wasn't she on Maternity leave?

FaberX · 10-12-2004, 04:41 PM

I don't think so, I spoke with her last Friday, she is (was?) my account rep, after I asked to have a new rep. My original rep was the biggest idiot at ibill, Jim Dunwoody, he's been deserving a pink slip for a long time. If Sylvia is gone, I'm gonna be really sad, she was one of the few nice ppl at ibill

sincity · 10-12-2004, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FaberX
Do you mean their sponsored merchants or just the revsharers?

As I was reading this board I believe three people wrote that they received their Revshare check. I have not received any money.

TheLegacy · 10-12-2004, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sincity
As I was reading this board I believe three people wrote that they received their Revshare check. I have not received any money.

hey sincity - there are alot of rumours around that IBill fired a chunk of their people - are you able to verify this?? and if so was it to get leaner or meaner

Gottis · 10-12-2004, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CC
Well it looks like my rep, Syliva Perez, was one of the 50 people fired. My emails to her are now bouncing back to me. God, and I thought the customer service couldn't get any worse than it already was

Was this the email that bounced back?

Hello,

I have continued to receive and field the numerous calls and emails regarding our situation with First Data, delayed payments as well as our new processing solutions. Please visit http://cmi.ibill.com/ for the most recent updates.

For any general support issues, please contact iBill Client Services at 800-764-4266, 954-363-4949 or [email protected].

Regards,
xxxxx

keyboard warrior · 10-12-2004, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jon Adolfsson
Was this the email that bounced back?

Hello,

I have continued to receive and field the numerous calls and emails regarding our situation with First Data, delayed payments as well as our new processing solutions. Please visit http://cmi.ibill.com/ for the most recent updates.

For any general support issues, please contact iBill Client Services at 800-764-4266, 954-363-4949 or [email protected].

Regards,
xxxxx

Same bounce here:

directfiesta · 10-12-2004, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CC
Well it looks like my rep, Syliva Perez, was one of the 50 people fired.

Am throwing a party.... Never got a straight answer from her. Kept Ibill for rebills only till Sharmaine got me back on board.

Now she is gne also

boobmaster · 10-12-2004, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sincity
BOOBMASTER is a fucking liar. He wrote last night that he did not know that IBILL was not processing Visa. How can you not know they are not processing VISA when everyone on this board has been writing about it for the last 2 weeks.

Everyone on this board knows he is an asshole and he cannot be trusted.

IBILL has started to pay their US clients.

Goddammit. Do you have to do your fucking pissing in every thread I post in? Wanna start some shit with me, let's take it to another thread.

PS - Keep saying shit about my cedibility, AND I WILL FLY UP TO NYC AND KICK YOUR FUCKING PUSSY ASS.

boobmaster · 10-12-2004, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tony404
Very good question

I sure am. Love me or hate me, I run three paysites with them and have been doing so for six years.

tony286 · 10-12-2004, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boobmaster
I sure am. Love me or hate me, I run three paysites with them and have been doing so for six years.

I dont hate you, I dont know you. Based on what I know it seemed like a valid point. I never understood how anyone could hate someone from a forum. lol

Xsentric · 10-12-2004, 08:04 PM

Questions?!?!??! ..... How many employees were employed at the end of the day (October 12, 2004) @ iBill? How many dedicated employees with much tenure were told your position has been eliminated? Please await your new CMI News update - Beginning with - As you know we have been dealing with certain issues and we have once again reorganized our organization. In the effort of this restructure we regret to inform you..... (you fill in the blank)

Thanks Internet Billing Company!

keyboard warrior · 10-12-2004, 08:12 PM

Click here to email MarkIBill
Send MarkIBill a Private Message!

sincity · 10-12-2004, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheLegacy
hey sincity - there are alot of rumours around that IBill fired a chunk of their people - are you able to verify this?? and if so was it to get leaner or meaner

They fired 40 people. Business is down so they had to cut costs. That is the bottom line and it just makes sense. I would do the same thing if I was in the same position.

sincity · 10-12-2004, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boobmaster
Goddammit. Do you have to do your fucking pissing in every thread I post in? Wanna start some shit with me, let's take it to another thread.

PS - Keep saying shit about my cedibility, AND I WILL FLY UP TO NYC AND KICK YOUR FUCKING PUSSY ASS.

Boobmaster...I told you last night I was waiting for you. Now stop telling me you are going to fly to NYC. JUST DO IT!!!

sincity · 10-12-2004, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Xsentric
Questions?!?!??! ..... How many employees were employed at the end of the day (October 12, 2004) @ iBill? How many dedicated employees with much tenure were told your position has been eliminated? Please await your new CMI News update - Beginning with - As you know we have been dealing with certain issues and we have once again reorganized our organization. In the effort of this restructure we regret to inform you..... (you fill in the blank)

Thanks Internet Billing Company!

I would say their are about 150 employees still working their.

They fired 40 employees so you can say they fired 40 dedicated employees.

Now answer this question:

1) If your business was not doing as well as the past couple of months and you knew that if you kept the same amount of employees on your payroll and you knew that next month for example you could not pay them would you still keep them?

quiet · 10-12-2004, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CC
Well it looks like my rep, Syliva Perez, was one of the 50 people fired. My emails to her are now bouncing back to me. God, and I thought the customer service couldn't get any worse than it already was

she was my rep too. no wonder i never heard back from her lol. good times.

keyboard warrior · 10-12-2004, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
she was my rep too. no wonder i never heard back from her lol. good times.

I had her as well, then they bumped me to Kevin.

keyboard warrior · 10-12-2004, 08:51 PM

Where is IBILLMark ????????????????????????????????/

10-11-2004, 04:28 PM	#401
Methodcash Rick Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,720	400 Ibill NON-Updates Yup, I noticed the same exact thing... I also checked the rebills that went through, and guess what, they're VISA cards, not MasterCard... Atleast they show up in CMI, but it makes we wonder too... Last edited by Methodcash Rick; 10-11-2004 at 04:29 PM..

10-11-2004, 07:46 PM	#407
keyboard warrior Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,435	some rebills - visa's are going through! without the new contract. __________________ - nothing here -

10-11-2004, 08:31 PM	#408
keyboard warrior Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,435	Hey MarkIbill why dont you POST SOME INFO AS to what the hell is going on? __________________ - nothing here -

10-11-2004, 09:20 PM	#410
Sophmaster Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 310	They have to pay this week , enough is enough ! __________________ AIM : webcashmaker Email: infoATwebcashmaker.com WebCashMaker Program

10-12-2004, 07:14 AM	#413
collegeboyslive Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: orlando Posts: 189	OK my very real question is: given that things happen and ignoring the visa mess for a moment. They still got paid for mastercard and they still got paid for checks and they still got paid for 900# sales. so why havnt we been given a payout of those monies? after all Ibill HAS received them and is in fact still rebilling them. Sounds like a case of robbing peter to pay paul __________________ Video feeds and content available to webmasters: Photo sets now available http://photos.collegeboyslive.com Affiliate site here: http://affiliates.collegeboyslive.com

10-11-2004, 04:33 PM	#402
Morphious Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 197	cause I got a Visa decline rebill email today - and the ONLY way they can get a decline is if they are running the cards!

10-11-2004, 04:35 PM	#403
Methodcash Rick Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,720	Here's another thought... Are they running and collecting on MY rebills, and paying other webmasters with those funds? Cuz they sure as fuck haven't been paying me... Hmmmmmmmmmm

10-11-2004, 05:07 PM	#405
FaberX Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Miami Beach Posts: 181	I've also noticed the same, all I can think of is that maybe they are still able to process visa for european surfers... I've noticed quite a few .de email addresses between the few transactions that when thru. Now, if anyone from ibill is reading this, would be a pretty good time to post and let us know what the heck is going on, you promised an update, my rep promised news regarding ibill complete, and still, you are a no show.

10-11-2004, 05:55 PM	#406
Morphious Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 197	well I can tell you the ones they are rebilling with me are not Europe ones , they are 99% US

10-11-2004, 08:54 PM	#409
Methodcash Rick Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,720	All the ones that have run for me, are US, Japan, and a very few European customers... I'm still wondering how they're doing it, and if I will ever get paid.. I have not, and will not sign their bullshit contract for the "merchant account", so they're billing my rebills somehow... Oh well, guess I'll just have to wait and see, since no one from IBill is forthcoming with any information...

10-12-2004, 05:12 AM	#411
twist Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 415	I got my eu-revshare checks today.

10-12-2004, 05:34 AM	#412
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	Speechless :-) Why the hell would anyone even consider something so damned stupid as having some merchant account with a company that can't even run it's business? I suppose this is another way of: (a) trying to grasp a client before they jump ship, and (b) pull some money in quick to cover their asses and be left with "something" to sell the next sad ass who has ambitions of owning iBill. Pathetic!

10-12-2004, 07:21 AM	#414
collegeboyslive Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: orlando Posts: 189	I decided to ask my question to ibill here is their reply: All previous check, 900# and mastercars were handled by first data. they have switched to a new bank that seems to be able to process these without any new forms being filled out. hummm ? __________________ Video feeds and content available to webmasters: Photo sets now available http://photos.collegeboyslive.com Affiliate site here: http://affiliates.collegeboyslive.com

10-12-2004, 07:32 AM	#416
TheLegacy SEO Connoisseur Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Brantford, Ontario Posts: 16,376	so help me catch up here.. has anyone gotten paid?? Has IBill been delaying their promises?? __________________ SEO Connoisseur Microsoft Teams: Robert Warren SEO Telegram: @TheLegacy54 RobertWarrenSEO.com

10-12-2004, 08:47 AM	#417
Methodcash Rick Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,720	I know that SOME EU customers have been paid, but I don't know of any US people that have been paid yet...

10-12-2004, 08:48 AM	#418
Penrod Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,578	Another update message will be posted on Monday, October 11, 2004 at 5:00 p.m. EST. Never saw it. Did anyone get an update?

10-12-2004, 10:13 AM	#419
Morphious Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 197	Just Spoke to my Rep. Question 1. How can my rebills be billing and I an get decline emails for US visas.? Answer - Impossible, we have not had visa in our system for 10 days now. - so I continued to explain to him that this is impossible and that they would have to authenticate with Visa to rebill decline some one! and that the cmi shows them going through!!!! Answer, must be some kind of Technical glitch.. Because impossible! So if ANYONE out there knows of a user that they can contact to have them check there bank records and verify if ibill is processing cards or not ( Please be aware that there is a rumor that they are processing through the Philippines , so Please check for other names as well !!!!! ) Question. - What about the announcement - was to be yesterday! . Answer. - I just got out of a meeting and we will have an answer on Friday as to weather we are going to do this type of business or scale back our business. Question - When are the US customers going to be paid, - as I have to pay my rent! Answer - we are working on it. Wow all I can say is that the first Q-A took 10 minutes of me explaining to him that there is NO way that some one can be declined , and NOT be authenticated from a Visa account!!!

10-12-2004, 10:34 AM	#420
keyboard warrior Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,435	it could be a last dodge tactic and then close up shop, get all they can before they go under. It happened to other proccessing companies, why not IBILL. __________________ - nothing here -

10-12-2004, 10:36 AM	#421
Methodcash Rick Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,720	I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt up until the point, that I saw Visa transactions being processed, no payments forth coming, and the "run around" that they have been giving to everyone... Time for me to jump the sinking ship, on any little piece of floating debris I can find...

10-12-2004, 10:43 AM	#423
boobmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,185	Not that it matters at this point, but are they requiring ALL their clients to sign up for ibill direct and pay the additional $1,500.00 in VISA fees, or can clients refuse this?

10-12-2004, 11:04 AM	#426
scardog Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 886	They aren't processing Visa's for me, but they are processing Mastercards.

10-12-2004, 12:52 PM	#427
oldnewbie Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The End Times Posts: 394	Believe me, I am VERY unhappy with Ibill right now, but in all fairness: I just searched through this last weeks worth of credit card rebills in CMI and didn't find any Visa rebills. Only MC and Discover. And I also didn't find any Visa declines listed. I also have a theory on the Visa declines others are seeing. It's possible they made it past Ibill's current Visa ban because the decline was already in the works... You know how it usually tries 2 or 3 times, and says something like "rebill declined, will try again on [date]"... Perhaps the declines showing up are simply the ones that were scheduled to retry before Visa was taken out of the system and they just made it through a loophole and went ahead and retried when they were scheduled to.

10-12-2004, 01:25 PM	#428
crazies Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Swamp -~- Goooo Gators!!! 2006-2007 BB and 1996, 2007 & 2009 FB National Champs X 5!!! Posts: 1,491	I received my US Revshare check today so it looks like they are coming through with their word. __________________ Send us your Mature traffic and let us convert it for you! CraziesCash Converts

10-12-2004, 04:33 PM	#432
CC Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,690	Well it looks like my rep, Syliva Perez, was one of the 50 people fired. My emails to her are now bouncing back to me. God, and I thought the customer service couldn't get any worse than it already was

10-12-2004, 04:41 PM	#434
FaberX Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Miami Beach Posts: 181	I don't think so, I spoke with her last Friday, she is (was?) my account rep, after I asked to have a new rep. My original rep was the biggest idiot at ibill, Jim Dunwoody, he's been deserving a pink slip for a long time. If Sylvia is gone, I'm gonna be really sad, she was one of the few nice ppl at ibill

10-12-2004, 08:04 PM	#443
Xsentric Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sunny Side Florida Posts: 19	Questions?!?!??! ..... How many employees were employed at the end of the day (October 12, 2004) @ iBill? How many dedicated employees with much tenure were told your position has been eliminated? Please await your new CMI News update - Beginning with - As you know we have been dealing with certain issues and we have once again reorganized our organization. In the effort of this restructure we regret to inform you..... (you fill in the blank) Thanks Internet Billing Company!

10-12-2004, 08:12 PM	#444
keyboard warrior Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,435	Click here to email MarkIBill Send MarkIBill a Private Message! __________________ - nothing here -

10-12-2004, 08:51 PM	#450
keyboard warrior Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,435	Where is IBILLMark ????????????????????????????????/ __________________ - nothing here -