Are You Going To Lose Your Domain Names Tomorrow? <<<<protect Yourself>>>

[seeric]

IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR DOMAINS READ THIS. i don't care if this has been posted before. fuck the timeline pics. this is dangerous.

http://news.netcraft.com/archives/20..._easier.h tml

Domain names could become easier to hijack as a change in domain transfer rules takes effect Friday. Under new rules set by the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN), domain transfer requests will be automatically approved in five days unless they are explicitly denied by the account owner. This is a change from current procedure, in which a domain's ownership and nameservers remain unchanged if there is no response to a transfer request.
This could mean trouble for domain owners who don't closely manage their records. Domains with incorrect e-mail addresses and outdated administrative contact information are at particular risk, as the domain's WHOIS database information will be used to inform domain owners of transfer requests. A non-response becomes the equivalent of answering "yes" to a transfer request, according to the ICANN policy change.

"Failure by the Registrar of Record to respond within five (5) calendar days to a notification from the Registry regarding a transfer request will result in a default 'approval' of the transfer," the new rules state. "In the event that a Transfer Contact listed in the Whois has not confirmed their request to transfer with the Registrar of Record and the Registrar of Record has not explicitly denied the transfer request, the default action will be that the Registrar of Record must allow the transfer to proceed."

As the deadline for the change approaches, domain registrars are contacting domain owners and insisting that they update domain records to avoid unwanted changes. "From November 8-10, we are sending an email to all domain customers informing you of a new domain transfer policy, enforced by ICANN," Go Daddy told its users. "This policy dictates that we must honor any transfer requests, even if you do not personally confirm them. To prevent unauthorized transfers, lock your domains." There are reports of other registrars providing stern warnings to customers about the need to update their details within five days, perhaps to establish which domains may have outdated info.

Domains have become valuable business assets, yet are often loosely managed by business owners, who neglect to update their WHOIS information following changes in staff or e-mail addresses. Companies that have let critical domains lapse include The Washingon Post, the Gawker weblog and perhaps the most embarassing gaffe yet, the UK domain for Ogilvy Mather.

ICANN appears to be anticipating a spike in disputes, and today announced appointments to manage its domain dispute resolution policy.

and here is what GODADDY has to say:

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Important Notice Regarding your Domain(s)
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Dear Valued Go Daddy Customer,

Effective November 12, 2004, the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) will institute a new transfer policy for all accredited domain name service providers.

The previous ICANN policy allowed us to deny requests to transfer your domain names to another registrar unless you explicitly confirmed to us your intent to transfer. The new ICANN policy removes that protection. Starting November 12, when we receive a request to transfer your domain name to a new registrar, we will still attempt to contact you to confirm that you authorized the request. However, if you do not respond, or are not able to respond within 5 days, your domain name WILL be transferred.

With this change in mind, we are recommending that all Go Daddy domain customers visit GoDaddy.com and "lock" their domain name(s). Locking your domain(s) is free and prevents unauthorized changes to contacts and name servers. Most importantly, it prevents the domain name from being transferred to another registrar without your knowledge. You may lock or unlock your domain at any time.

To lock your domain names:

Go to: http://www.godaddy.com/

Click My Account and enter your username or customer number and password.

Click Manage Domains.

Select the domain name(s) that you wish to lock.

Click Set Locking. In the right side pane, select "Lock" and save your changes.

After your changes have been submitted, there will be a short duration while your request is pending update. During this period, details of the domain(s) will be temporarily unavailable.

To review the new ICANN transfer policy, please visit: http://www.icann.org/transfers/policy-12jul04.htm

Thank you for your attention.

Sincerely,
GoDaddy.com Domain Support


ALOT OF PEOPLE ARE ABOUT TO GET FUCKED! Watch the drama its will create here.

[Spunky]

Yea it sucks..Lock your domains!

[Repost Police]

Repost hundred fucking fifty.

Stop it already.

[Thumbking]

Why are they doing this?

[seeric]

Originally posted by Repost Police
Repost hundred fucking fifty.

Stop it already.

WHO FUCKIN CARES IDIOT! I SAID THAT IN THE FREAKING POST DIDNT I? ASSHOLE.

You think everyone sits around all day reading GFY? THis board has lots of waves of traffic hitting it. And, threads move very fast on here.

If I helped one person save their domain from a transfer it was worth your tired little eyes skimming over it and moving to the next thread.

Personally, I work my ass off all day on a program and dont sit on GFY all day waiting to cuss people out for posting a thread.

Tool.

REPOST THIS

[Pete]

I think Osama is behind this.

[49thParallel]

Go post..or repost..or whatever it is..thanks. I didn't see it earlier, and this is very good information to know.

[Gynecologist]

Yeah, I hate it when people post info that could save my business.

[J$tyle$]

Locked 36 of them yesterday

[Bigwilly]

i think when you register any domain with godaddy.com it locks them, i know mine are and i did nothing to lock them

[TurboTrucker]

How exactly do you lock a domain?

[WickedVenus]

If your worried, have your domains locked, and, and make sure you have a valid email address on your domains.

[WickedVenus]

Originally posted by TurboTrucker
How exactly do you lock a domain?

ask your registar

[gdog]

Lock Down, 60 domains under control captain Airek.

G

[Rankings]

99 cents to lock each domain. This is a money thing.

[jawanda]

Damn, that is fucked up!

Why would they do this? Who does it benefit?

-p

[pornguy]

We locked all of ours down, but now we have a bunch of transfers to do. what a pain in the ass.

[Richard - Triplexcash]

Thanks for the info man!

[Veterans Day]

Originally posted by input
99 cents to lock each domain. This is a money thing.

you got fucked

[Dagwolf]

Originally posted by A1R3K
WHO FUCKIN CARES IDIOT! I SAID THAT IN THE FREAKING POST DIDNT I? ASSHOLE.

You think everyone sits around all day reading GFY? THis board has lots of waves of traffic hitting it. And, threads move very fast on here.

If I helped one person save their domain from a transfer it was worth your tired little eyes skimming over it and moving to the next thread.

Personally, I work my ass off all day on a program and dont sit on GFY all day waiting to cuss people out for posting a thread.

Tool.

REPOST THIS

PLUS if you know it's a repost................


And you know by the title if you're not a moron....

You didn't HAVE to click the link. You don't HAVE to read the same information again. It's up to you if you want to read the same thing over again and spend time replying to it.

[seeric]

if you got charged to lock your shit down, get a new registrar. directnic is free.

this move is gonna cause alot of trouble around here. wait till you start seeing posts. "so and so stole my domain and wants 10 bazsillion dollars to give it back to me blah blah blah"

mark my words, and bookmark this thread within a month, you will see a pissing match over a domain name here.

[StreetFlossin]

I bet Go Daddy and Others just made a few million over night... what great marketing technique scaring people into buying something they dont need... lol call godaddy and ask them how you can TAKE a domain from somone they all of a sudden deny it working and that something still needs to be confirmed.... on the other end .... I believe the registar of the Holding Domain.. has to agree so if you have unpaid bills or many complaints they might let it go... other then that should not be a problem

[mkx]

Originally posted by A1R3K
if you got charged to lock your shit down, get a new registrar. directnic is free.

this move is gonna cause alot of trouble around here. wait till you start seeing posts. "so and so stole my domain and wants 10 bazsillion dollars to give it back to me blah blah blah"

mark my words, and bookmark this thread within a month, you will see a pissing match over a domain name here.

Has anyone called Icann about this yet? I couldn't get through today. I want to know if they would be in favor of the theif or the victim incase of a domain dispute if a domain was stolen using this legit method.

[ToolGuy]

YOU STILL NEED TO CONFIRM TRANSFERS
The only thing is now you only have to do it once to the place the domain is going to be transferred to instead of twice like you were supposed to have to do previously.
This is just so the registrars who would make it virtually impossible to release your domains cannot do that anymore.
If I try to initiate a transfer for any domain tomorrow the registered owner will receive and email from MY REGISTRAR asking to confirm the transfer, if he or she does not confirm it then I will not get the domain transferred. It used to take an email from both my registrar and the other parties registrar but alot of the time the registrar that is loosing the domain will not send out the confirmation email so they get to keep the domain for future renewals...this stops that from happening.
it would be better to make sure all of your emails on your registered owner and administrative contacts are valid and belong to you still rather then locking your domains.
Just thought I would shed some light on this even though it has been said before here.

[WickedVenus]

Originally posted by input
99 cents to lock each domain. This is a money thing.

OMG thats just wrong!!! Mine were free!

[mkx]

Originally posted by ToolGuy
YOU STILL NEED TO CONFIRM TRANSFERS
The only thing is now you only have to do it once to the place the domain is going to be transferred to instead of twice like you were supposed to have to do previously.
This is just so the registrars who would make it virtually impossible to release your domains cannot do that anymore.
If I try to initiate a transfer for any domain tomorrow the registered owner will receive and email from MY REGISTRAR asking to confirm the transfer, if he or she does not confirm it then I will not get the domain transferred. It used to take an email from both my registrar and the other parties registrar but alot of the time the registrar that is loosing the domain will not send out the confirmation email so they get to keep the domain for future renewals...this stops that from happening.
it would be better to make sure all of your emails on your registered owner and administrative contacts are valid and belong to you still rather then locking your domains.
Just thought I would shed some light on this even though it has been said before here.

Not wishing to argue with your statement however do you have any links to pages from Icann or reputable registrars that provide those details?

This is what I read from Icann:

"The FOA should be sent by the Registrar of Record to the Transfer Contact as soon as operationally possible, but must be sent not later than twenty-four (24) hours after receiving the transfer request from the Registry Operator.

Failure by the Registrar of Record to respond within five (5) calendar days to a notification from the Registry regarding a transfer request will result in a default "approval" of the transfer."
http://www.icann.org/transfers/policy-12jul04.htm

and I received this today from my registrar directnic:


Beginning November 12, 2004, the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and
Numbers (ICANN) will institute a new transfer policy for all accredited
domain name service providers. directNIC is actually implementing the new
policy today, Thursday November 11, 2004.

The previous ICANN policy allowed directNIC to deny transfer requests to
another registrar unless the administrative contact directly confirmed the
transfer. Starting today, when we receive a request to transfer your domain
name to a new registrar, we will still attempt to contact you to confirm
that you authorized the request. However, if for ANY reason you do not
DECLINE the transfer within 5 days, your domain name WILL BE
transferred away if it is on Normal Transfer Security.

For this reason, we recommend that our customers place their domains on High
Transfer Security to prevent unwanted transfers. This may be done through
the Customer Settings section of your account by clicking on the "Set
Transfer Security" link. If your account is on Normal Security, click on
the "Change to: High Security" button. Or by going to the URL below:
https://secure.directnic.com/myaccou...r_security.php

If you have any concerns as to how this new policy affects your domains,
please direct them to [email protected].
Sincerely,
directNIC Support

[ToolGuy]

Originally posted by raulph
Not wishing to argue with your statement however do you have any links to pages from Icann or reputable registrars that provide those details?

Sorry I dont have any links but was on the phone with my Registrar about this as soon as I got the news and he assured me that what I stated above is how this plays out. If you read what your post says it is talking about the CURRENT Registrar of Record not the one that the domain will be transferred to. If you use godaddy for instance and I sell you a domain name, you would log into godaddy and type in the domain name I sold you to be transferred into your account. GODADDY then would send me an email asking if I wanted to confirm the transfer. If I say NO or do not respond then nothing happens...period. If I say YES (this is where the change takes place) then my registrar would send me an email stating that a transfer request was initiated and ask me to confirm again...now if I ignore that one then the transfer will go through as I requested. I can still say no or yes to that one if I want but this is where some registrars were screwing people by either not sending that second request at all or making it entirely too confusing for people to use it which would cause the domain name to stay at the registrar for that much longer.
By the way...my registrar may not know what the heck he is talking about either but from what I know, what I have read and what he said this again is what I get out of it...don't worry about arguing with me about it, this is important and needs to be figured out for 100% sure so the more arguing the better...lol

[xclusive]

I have my domains locked and this is the biggest stupidest thing done in the domain industry ever...

[Project-Shadow]

Your post makes sense tool.. it's just another way of looking at how they say it. I personally believe that if you don't approve/disapprove the transfer it'll go through anyway. =/

[ToolGuy]

Originally posted by Project-Shadow
Your post makes sense tool.. it's just another way of looking at how they say it. I personally believe that if you don't approve/disapprove the transfer it'll go through anyway. =/

Thats the only way "I" can make sense of it in a logical manner. I have had problems in the past with some of my registrars not releasing domain names to myself when I wanted to move them, especially back in the networksolution days. I also can not beleive that registrars would knowingly open themselves up for this many lawsuits, it's just not logical from any way you look at it...again I may be wrong, just really hoping that I am not, for everyones sake.

[mkx]

Originally posted by ToolGuy
Thats the only way "I" can make sense of it in a logical manner. I have had problems in the past with some of my registrars not releasing domain names to myself when I wanted to move them, especially back in the networksolution days. I also can not beleive that registrars would knowingly open themselves up for this many lawsuits, it's just not logical from any way you look at it...again I may be wrong, just really hoping that I am not, for everyones sake.

I called directnic today to see where someone would stand if they just sent transfer requests to domain holders with invalid email whois information. He admitted that this was a very tough situation and by the tone of his voice it sounded as though this is a lot bigger than just having to send 1 confirmation instead of 2.

My call was not to confirm this was happening, I was just seeing whether transferring domains this way would be considered fraud and I got my answer. Many people will not read this thread or may be on vacation without email access for a couple weeks. Meanwhile, they are sitting on domains worth thousands of dollars. I would be interesting to see what news becomes of this within the next couple weeks.

Some registrars and news sites specifically may have false sources for information. The top 5 domain registrars should have an exact description of whats going on incase anyone wants to confirm exactly whats going on.

I locked all my domains a couple days ago and am very happy that I saw on of the threads. It's good that this topic is reposted hundreds of times since threads get moved very far back in a matter of minutes on this forum.

[martyVP]

Originally posted by A1R3K
if you got charged to lock your shit down, get a new registrar. directnic is free.

this move is gonna cause alot of trouble around here. wait till you start seeing posts. "so and so stole my domain and wants 10 bazsillion dollars to give it back to me blah blah blah"

mark my words, and bookmark this thread within a month, you will see a pissing match over a domain name here.

I already put in a request for GOFUCKYOURSELF.com

[ToolGuy]

Well it looks like I have some others who are with me on this, here is a part of NationalNet (NatNames) statement:
Let's say that you want to transfer a domain from "XYZ Domain Registrar" to NatNames. In the past, you would initiate a transfer through NatNames and our system would generate a confirmation email, sending it to the owner of the domain. The owner would follow the steps in that email to confirm their request to transfer their domain to NatNames. Once confirmation was received, NatNames would contact the current registrar and the current registrar would also generate a confirmation email to which the owner of the domain must respond. Once that was complete the transfer would take place. In a perfect world this system would work quite nicely, but in the real world it did not. Losing registrars became notorious for not sending out confirmation emails, in effect stopping the transfer of the domain away from their company.
continued....
There has been a lot of speculation about this new policy; however, this will make transferring domains to NatNames a lot easier. With regard to the rumors that this new policy will make domain slamming / hijacking / stealing easier, this is simply not true. As the owner of the domain, you must still confirm a transfer with the gaining registrar in order for the transfer to take place.
For the whole article visit http://www.natnames.com/icaan_transfer_policy.php