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Old 12-08-2004, 04:30 PM   #51
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Like I said Jeff, you're a good guy and we will continue to do business with you
This tool isn't doing any convincing.
I'm not trying to convince you, I'm simply reminding people that this is the scumbag who was busted having his rebills set to stop paying affiliates after one month. Some people forget, and the search is broken. I'm also suggesting to every webmaster that they also stay away from programs who support this scam artist.

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Old 12-08-2004, 04:33 PM   #52
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it's amazing people just over look history and act like it never happened. Once a scammer always a scammer

Thanks Rich for continuing to remind people what a douchebag he really is.
Thank you, I'll keep doing it as long as this con artist is around, you can count on that. Some people forgive and forget, I'm not one of those people. Once a scammer always a scammer.
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Old 12-08-2004, 04:46 PM   #53
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Everything I read here is all hearsay.
He has never tried to fuck me, Jim, or as far as I know, any other reputable person.

We have never had a problem with Jeff.
He converts our sites well, and we convert his sites well.
He's a good guy in my opinion and we will continue to make good money with him.
Perhaps you should do some research before you make this statement !!
"any other reputable person". What is YOUR definiton of reputable ??
there were all kinds of "reputable" people who did not get paid, little guys who did not deserve to be fucked
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Old 12-08-2004, 04:55 PM   #54
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I'm not trying to convince you, I'm simply reminding people that this is the scumbag who was busted having his rebills set to stop paying affiliates after one month. Some people forget, and the search is broken. I'm also suggesting to every webmaster that they also stay away from programs who support this scam artist.
Dude... catch a clue. Yes, the rebills got set to only rebill after one month. It was right at the time System5 came out. It was an error and not only was over looked missed by me, but my entire staff. I was rarely in the admin at all. It happened and it sucked. We could have folded up, hid, ran away like every other program out there that were "busted" as you call it. However, we fixed the issue, made it right to every webmaster that was effected and moved on. Show me one sponsor that was "busted" that did that. There is not one.

We weathered the storm, rebuilt and we are WAY stronger then we ever were back then. Yep, we lost a few affiliates and sponsors, but not nearly as many as one might have thought. Nealry every sponsor and affiliate has also returned since. We have also added over 200 new sending affiliates in the last two months alone. Why, because our site convert and we are far and upfront with everyone we work with. Do you really think I could maintain this affiliate and sponsor bases if we were ripping affiliates and sponsors off? Please, its been a year and not one word from anyone regarding affiliate payouts or rebills other then the issue of a year ago. Not one person has said they have missed a click, sale or rebill since.

If you have proof otherwise, please let me us know. We took some serious heat a year ago over this shit... some was out fault for not paying closer attention to the new ccbill admin. That mistake fucked us up hardcore and we had to totally rebuild. We made the rebill issue right with the affiliates that lost them and thats it.

I respect your wanting to "inform" but you sure cant tell us that your motivation here is purely to look like the "good samarition".

Do what you think is right Rich. Cant fault you for that if your motives are truely pure.
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Old 12-08-2004, 04:59 PM   #55
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Dude... catch a clue. Yes, the rebills got set to only rebill after one month. It was right at the time System5 came out. It was an error and not only was over looked misseed by me, but my entire staff. It happened. We could have folded up, hid, ran away like every other program out there that were "busted" as you call it. However, we fixed the issue, made it right to every webmaster that was effected and moved on. Show me one sponsor that was "busted" that did that. There is not one.

We weathered the storm and nearly every single sponsor and affiliate stoof by us. Yep, we lost a few, but not nearly as many as one might have thought. We have also added over 200 new sending affiliates in the last two months alone. Why, because our site convert and we are far and upfront with everyone we work with. Do you really think I could maintain this affiliate and sponsor bases if we were ripping affiliates and sponsors off? Please, its been a year and not one word from anyone regarding affiliate payouts or rebills other then the issue of a year ago. Not one person has said they have missed a click, sale or rebill since.

If you have proof otherwise, please let me us know. We took some serious heat a year ago over this shit... some was out fault for not paying closer attention to the new ccbill admin. That mistake fucked us up hardcore and we had to totally rebuild. We made the rebill issue right with the affiliates that lost them and thats it.

I respect your wanting to "inform" but you sure cant tell us that your motivation here is purely to look like the "good samarition".

Do what you think is right Rich. Cant fault you for that if your motives are truely pure.



You forgot to add "there are no US tanks in Baghdad".
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Old 12-08-2004, 05:00 PM   #56
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I respect your wanting to "inform" but you sure cant tell us that your motivation here is purely to look like the "good samarition".
I'm always looking out for the little guy.
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Old 12-08-2004, 05:06 PM   #57
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Anyone have the link to the threads about this guy scamming? Search is down, it would be nice to post them for the newbs and people with very short term memories. Jeff, I know you have those threads bookmarked, since your so innocent and no one but me hinks of you as a scammer, post the links.
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Old 12-08-2004, 05:11 PM   #58
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Post whatever ya want Rich.

Everyone that that sends of traffic gets paid, on time, everytime for every single sale and rebill the generate... they have since 2002. All they need to do is check there ccbill admin stats. Im not aware of ccbill missing one payout since I have used them.

Heres the link

https://affiliateadmin.ccbill.com/

I'm off to dinner.


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Old 12-08-2004, 05:15 PM   #59
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Post whatever ya want Rich.

Everyone that that sends of traffic gets paid, on time, everytime for every single sale and rebill the generate... they have since 2002. All they need to do is check there ccbill admin stats.

I'm off to dinner.


Hope you eat well on other peoples money, you two bit scam artist lowlife. You've also ripped off models, don't think we've forgotten about that either. I hope you choke on your dinner, assholes like you are a cancer on this industry.

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Old 12-08-2004, 05:19 PM   #60
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http://www.povcash.com/
http://www.xxxcash.com/
http://www.triplexcash.com/
http://www.biminibucks.com/
http://www.dubiouscash.com/

That's the blacklist so far, who else is willing to admit they support scammers who steal from webmasters?

I'd stay the fuck away from any of these programs, if they don't mind doing business with thieves I'm sure they're shaving webmasters blind themselves.
Count me in that list I only do biz with scammers
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Old 12-08-2004, 05:22 PM   #61
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Count me in that list I only do biz with scammers
LOL Yeah for real. He's into calling the biggest program and program in the industry scammers. Gzzzz

Guess he hasnt look at the list.

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Threads like this are great, they expose the scumbags who are willing to do business with ANYONE who will make them a dime. Do you idiots forget this lowlife robbed every single one of his affiliates blind? None of the assholes posting in this thread will ever see any traffic from me.

I thought Porn Kings bought his sites, and Jeff had nothing to do with them anymore. That's what they said after he got busted scamming, what a bunch of fucking liars. I'm sure they're back to shaving the hell out of anyone nice enough to send them hard earned traffic.

Fuck Perfection Jeff, fuck Pornkings, and fuck anyone who does business with people who scam their own affiliates.




He's a GREAT guy huh? Why, because he's sent you traffic? Or was ripping off all of his affiliates what makes him a great guy? I used to think otherwise but turns out, you're just another stupid board whore with absolutely no business ethics. Keep up the good work, I hear pibcash and James Zee have traffic to send you, go kiss their asses for it.
you can suck my dick you piece of shit. Hope to see you in Vegas.
someone please post a pick of Rich LOL. so I know who to black ball from all the parties.
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http://www.povcash.com/
http://www.xxxcash.com/
http://www.triplexcash.com/
http://www.biminibucks.com/
http://www.dubiouscash.com/

That's the blacklist so far, who else is willing to admit they support scammers who steal from webmasters?

I'd stay the fuck away from any of these programs, if they don't mind doing business with thieves I'm sure they're shaving webmasters blind themselves.
If you got balls post your company so I can make sure to blackball you from all the sponsors I do buisness with.

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Hope you eat well on other peoples money, you two bit scam artist lowlife. You've also ripped off models, don't think we've forgotten about that either. I hope you choke on your dinner, assholes like you are a cancer on this industry.
I don't know you or give a fuck about you but keep fucking with Pornkings

all our webmasters get paid... keep talking shit its gonna cost you.
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Old 12-08-2004, 05:38 PM   #65
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I'm talking about Perfection Girls, not fucking porn kings. You made your bed by doing business with this scammer. If you're going to deny the fact that he scammed affiliates AND models, I'll fucking laugh in your face. I seriously doubt you'll be threatening me in person, though guy. Any party that a scammer can keep me out of is a waste of my time.
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Roger I warned you when you bought the sites to stay away from this guy. If you don't want your name mentioned in the same breath as this scammer, then don't do business with him. I've never had a problem with Pork Kings but I can't understand why you'd support someone who steals from the people in our industry.
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I'm talking about Perfection Girls, not fucking porn kings. You made your bed by doing business with this scammer. If you're going to deny the fact that he scammed affiliates AND models, I'll fucking laugh in your face. I seriously doubt you'll be threatening me in person, though guy. Any party that a scammer can keep me out of is a waste of my time.


You don't know me very well.... I don't give a fuck who you are keep messing with my livelihood!

I have never fucked anyone in this buisness ever. But I will find out all the dirt on you. those who talk shit are the first to go down. LMAO>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I'm just defending my business
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Roger I warned you when you bought the sites to stay away from this guy. If you don't want your name mentioned in the same breath as this scammer, then don't do business with him. I've never had a problem with Pork Kings but I can't understand why you'd support someone who steals from the people in our industry.
It was a business decision that has done very well for us.

I can guarantee everyone will get paid now. as far as you not liking jeff thats your prerogative.

But since we took over everyone has been paid anf Jeff as nothing to do with finances.

If you want to know the facts call me but please don't piss in my cherrios
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I'm not saying you ripped anyone off Roger, I know your program is legit and you guys pay. Notice I left your site off my blacklist. That doesn't change the fact that Jeff is a dirt bag, and besides the shaving as you can see he even fucks well liked guys like JFK out of small amounts of money. This is not hearsay, and they're not isolated incidents. I don't understand why honest people do business with scammers who steal money from people in our industry.

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I'm not saying you ripped anyone off Roger, I know your program is legit and you guys pay. Notice I left your site off my blacklist. That doesn't change the fact that Jeff is a dirt bag, and besides the shaving as you can see he even fucks well liked guys like out of small amounts of money. This is not hearsay, and they're not isolated incidents. I don't understand why honest people do business with scammers who steal money from people in our industry.
First off I didn't know the previous history and it was to late to do anything other then make good on the debts which he did it was a total of 4k. I get burned by frudulant webmasters for way more monthly. and I don't post everyone who is shady becasue there is alot more scamming webmaster then programs. I try to keep things honest, always have.

I always bottom feed on deals I don't like to pay top dollar.

Sorry the way I read it you were calling Pornkings a scammer.

until jeff is completely bought out this is the deal on perfectioncash. but everyone will get paid until then.

And if you don't want to do biz with Jeff then send to Pornkings.

It was a business decision nothing more
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Anyone have the link to the threads about this guy scamming? Search is down, it would be nice to post them for the newbs and people with very short term memories. Jeff, I know you have those threads bookmarked, since your so innocent and no one but me hinks of you as a scammer, post the links.
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...highlight=jeff
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Well Roger, I really respect the fact that you're making good on Jeff's debts, you shouldn't have to but I'm glad the deal is making money for you anyway. I will continue reminding people that Jeff is a scam artist every time I see him trying to recruit people to send him traffic, but I'll leave PK out of it. As I said you're a legit program and I know you pay, people should use Porn Kings, not perfectioncash.com.
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Hope you eat well on other peoples money, you two bit scam artist lowlife. You've also ripped off models, don't think we've forgotten about that either. I hope you choke on your dinner, assholes like you are a cancer on this industry.
I have one where he threatens to kill Dana and her family.
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you still live in the past. I bet you still jack off like you were 18 nothing changes.

HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY EVERYONE IS GETTING PAID!!!

Jeff no longer has control of the finances.

One day if you ever get lucky you will own a business and understand.


for those who want to make money trade traffic we will be around for a long time so you will get paid no worries
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Old 12-08-2004, 06:31 PM   #75
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Hope you eat well on other peoples money, you two bit scam artist lowlife. You've also ripped off models, don't think we've forgotten about that either. I hope you choke on your dinner, assholes like you are a cancer on this industry.
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=219354

Jeff threatens a MI family with violence.
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Well Roger, I really respect the fact that you're making good on Jeff's debts, you shouldn't have to but I'm glad the deal is making money for you anyway. I will continue reminding people that Jeff is a scam artist every time I see him trying to recruit people to send him traffic, but I'll leave PK out of it. As I said you're a legit program and I know you pay, people should use Porn Kings, not perfectioncash.com.
Im sorry, but Roger, Pornkings or not any other sole made good on any of my debts... ever, PERIOD!

Lets make that perfectly clear. I paid and will continue to pay every penny I owe or have ever owed. If anyone wants to dispute that fact they can meet me face to face and I will offer up the proof.

So you wernt calling Pornkings out Rich? hmmmm I seem to recall "Fuck Perfection Jeff, Fuck Porn Kings"... somewhere near the top of this thread.

Lets get another thing straight. We dont fucking shave. Never have, never will. If I can shave, everyone that uses ccbill admin and payouts can also and we all know that is not the case. Ive used ccbill as my admin and backend since March 24th 2002, the day I opened. We have never written our own affiliate checks and never will.

Pornkings handles the accounting on our sites. They have a great, full accounting department so it only makes sense, but everything on the revshare side is paid my ccbill as it always has been. It takes the load off me and lets me do what i do best. Thats the whole idea. Of course, youre so wise and business savvy so delegating task to people suited for them would not make sense to you at all. Please....

Roger, dont even bother with these idiots. I have fought much harder battles since i have been in business and won every one of them. Let them say whatever they want.. When I was 20 years old I thought i knew everything also. Someone is clearly spitting in his ear, telling him what to say. Let him have is fun.

This has become so boring and childish. The fact that some hater has taken up some of our day is now only our fault.

Oh and RRACY... since you live just down the road from me, lets meet up, have some drinks at 336. How about it?




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If your a pornkings webmaster shoot me an email for the http://www.thejunglebash.com/


it will be off the hook


I'm over this like I have always said I'm here to do business not for drama. I only have time for webmasters who want to make money


plus its the holidays and I'm in a good mood
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Jeff just made a pass at me. Had jeff been smart he would have disappeared into the world of nonnude. You would have made much more mulla.
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I'm over this like I have always said I'm here to do business not for drama. I only have time for webmasters who want to make money


plus its the holidays and I'm in a good mood
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thanks if your going to vegas shoot me an email to get on the list
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