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SilverTab · 02-14-2005, 01:53 AM

hmm depends how much you get paid per signup ;)
I usually get 50 signups or more, but at 3$ per signups :P... (which is still usually more than 150$/day, so i'm quite happy with that....but of course, more would be better..)

ATL_Ryan · 02-14-2005, 02:15 AM

100 joins a day as an affiliate is pretty normal for me. That is an average day. I have over 200 accounts. Some I send 25 to 50 joins a day some only 1. I've had plenty of 100 join days with a single program. That is only 4.16 joins per hour. I know there are plenty of people sending much more than this. I recently spoke to a large program owner and was told the their biggest affiliate does a solid 150 joins a day everyday. If you are sending to 20 different programs and do 5 joins on each you've got your hundred.

However we have a network of sites I'm sending from and I only get the leftover traffic we don't sell.

WWC · 02-14-2005, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMob

from a sponsors or affiliate's point of view?

well both...

ADL Colin · 02-14-2005, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by CJ_Ryan

100 joins a day as an affiliate is pretty normal for me. That is an average day. I have over 200 accounts. Some I send 25 to 50 joins a day some only 1. I've had plenty of 100 join days with a single program. That is only 4.16 joins per hour. I know there are plenty of people sending much more than this. I recently spoke to a large program owner and was told the their biggest affiliate does a solid 150 joins a day everyday. If you are sending to 20 different programs and do 5 joins on each you've got your hundred.

However we have a network of sites I'm sending from and I only get the leftover traffic we don't sell.

Here's someone y'all should listen to.

V_RocKs · 02-14-2005, 02:54 AM

Averaging 5 to 6 a day is pretty easy... Get yourself 150K in traded traffic and you can do it as a no brainer with FHG's. Averaging 10 to 12 is a bit harder but possible if you do something else instead of doing the same ole shit every day. 20+ is not so much investing in time worked, but instead in time schooled. Once you've schooled yourself enough that isn't so hard to do.

So stop looking at, hmmm, can I add 40 more hours to my work week and make twice the money? Look at, can I add ZERO hours and still get twice the work done in that time.

Rui · 02-14-2005, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Averaging 5 to 6 a day is pretty easy... Get yourself 150K in traded traffic and you can do it as a no brainer with FHG's. Averaging 10 to 12 is a bit harder but possible if you do something else instead of doing the same ole shit every day. 20+ is not so much investing in time worked, but instead in time schooled. Once you've schooled yourself enough that isn't so hard to do.

So stop looking at, hmmm, can I add 40 more hours to my work week and make twice the money? Look at, can I add ZERO hours and still get twice the work done in that time.

This is the kind of posts I love to read

studio · 02-14-2005, 10:17 AM

What would really be interesting... Would be, if cc bill would put some averages together and have them available. Give some true numbers that webmasters could use as a measuring stick. Numbers without giving names. I think that would help a lot of webmasters.

Stephen · 02-14-2005, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ

Dumb people everywhere...

SO much hype...
If you really only knew...

I used to make it a point to thumb through the payout checks of a 'big name' affiliate program that I was associated with a few years ago. They had in the neighborhood of 15,000 affiliates as I recall, of which perhaps 100 received a check every 2 weeks, and the great bulk of those checks were under $100.

A very few (5 or less) checks were for the 'staggering' amounts you all dream of...

It was a lot easier to make a buck in this biz in those days, so I'd be *really* surprised if so many folks who seem to do nothing but bs on message boards all day are making so much more money today.

Sure, there's a *very* small handful, but a far bigger number of bullshitters...

WWC · 02-14-2005, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by studio

What would really be interesting... Would be, if cc bill would put some averages together and have them available. Give some true numbers that webmasters could use as a measuring stick. Numbers without giving names. I think that would help a lot of webmasters.

Thats a great idea...Ccbill or Paycom should post here....lets all send them this link and ask...i will try to get someone from Ccbill to reply :-)

Jey p · 02-14-2005, 12:20 PM

more than 20 signups a day it's a nice number....

SmokeyTheBear · 02-14-2005, 12:22 PM

This thread is rather useless anyways as nobody made anything specific.

I could spend 20 grand a day on adwords and get 300 signups , or spend nothing and make 5 signups a day and still be making more money than the dude getting 300 signups a day.

Sponsors top producers are ALMOST ALWAYS other sponsor programs trading exit consoles etc.

So in the end all that matters is NET $$$

So the more FACTUAL questions with SUBSTANCE is, How much $$ do you net a day and what would you consider alot . ?

I could get 500 signups a day using a pps program , but still be making more cash doing 100 sales a day on a revshare program

studio · 02-14-2005, 12:24 PM

They could put some interesting numbers together... for affiliate sales and for pay site sales. Could be done with different size affiliates and companies...

Peaches · 02-14-2005, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ganjasaurus

According to all your numbers, as a revshare only program, we are doing a lot of signups per day.

getting ready for PPS.

Cool! Have Jay LMK when you go PPS and if we can send out some opt in mailers

NinjaSteve · 02-14-2005, 04:25 PM

three is a lot. Yeah three.

JulianSosa · 02-15-2005, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches

Cool! Have Jay LMK when you go PPS and if we can send out some opt in mailers

Send to them with trials off I know they offer this option

imafuckingaussie · 02-15-2005, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bringer

work sucks
i need a beer

my kind of answer lol

Rui · 02-16-2005, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen

It was a lot easier to make a buck in this biz in those days, so I'd be *really* surprised if so many folks who seem to do nothing but bs on message boards all day are making so much more money today.

ouchhh...that was a bit mean don't you think (its true tho)

WWC · 02-16-2005, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

This thread is rather useless anyways as nobody made anything specific.

I could spend 20 grand a day on adwords and get 300 signups , or spend nothing and make 5 signups a day and still be making more money than the dude getting 300 signups a day.

Sponsors top producers are ALMOST ALWAYS other sponsor programs trading exit consoles etc.

So in the end all that matters is NET $$$

So the more FACTUAL questions with SUBSTANCE is, How much $$ do you net a day and what would you consider alot . ?

I could get 500 signups a day using a pps program , but still be making more cash doing 100 sales a day on a revshare program

Thats a very good point!!! Best reply i have seen yet :-)

ps: Hey lets talk...maybe we can do some cross sales, ezclicks or other great ways to make money...

goodgirl · 02-16-2005, 06:46 AM

1 month of sales. Pure organic SE traffic. Just 1 program stats.

But there is no money in SEO.

goodgirl · 02-16-2005, 06:50 AM

Damn htacess.

http://www.adultsem.com/adult-seo-bl...or-gfy-thread/

andrej_NDC · 02-16-2005, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by goodgirl

1 month of sales. Pure organic SE traffic. Just 1 program stats.

But there is no money in SEO.

Hot RED X

andrej_NDC · 02-16-2005, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by goodgirl

Damn htacess.

http://www.adultsem.com/adult-seo-bl...or-gfy-thread/

polish_aristocrat · 02-16-2005, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by goodgirl

Damn htacess.

http://www.adultsem.com/adult-seo-bl...or-gfy-thread/

I trust you because I generaly trust people, but for those who don't, I have any idea what you posted there should proove that you were doing 300 sales daily.

BTW, since you are here, as someone already mentioned, it's kinda ironic that you make that many sales, but you have no idea they make you really elite.

Taking the biggest boys aside it should be obvious that there are so many affiliate programs nowadays, that most od them can only dream about getting 300 sales daily to their program.

And the average single webmaster, well, as it has been said, he probably makes 3-5 sales daily.

So if you can do that much as you do, and you not realize how excellent that is, then it's kinda funny.

iforgotmyscreenname · 02-16-2005, 07:10 AM

my biggest day was 39

hova · 02-16-2005, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

So stop looking at, hmmm, can I add 40 more hours to my work week and make twice the money? Look at, can I add ZERO hours and still get twice the work done in that time.

lucwylder · 02-16-2005, 07:20 AM

4 sign ups an hour is a respectable goal

goodgirl · 02-16-2005, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

I trust you because I generaly trust people, but for those who don't, I have any idea what you posted there should proove that you were doing 300 sales daily.

BTW, since you are here, as someone already mentioned, it's kinda ironic that you make that many sales, but you have no idea they make you really elite.

Taking the biggest boys aside it should be obvious that there are so many affiliate programs nowadays, that most od them can only dream about getting 300 sales daily to their program.

And the average single webmaster, well, as it has been said, he probably makes 3-5 sales daily.

So if you can do that much as you do, and you not realize how excellent that is, then it's kinda funny.

Well my own goal is 1000 a day. That would be as an affiliate and with programs I work on. To me that would be excellent, and I have no doubt it is possible, like you said there are many affiliate programs out there. You just have to keep tweaking your own sites to produce more results. And look at everyway there is to promote, organic, paid, and email.

I do remember the 3-5 sales a day my first few months and that is good as well, it pays the bills

Posting a gallery a day to TGP's should get you that easily. Especially if your optimizing your galleries for SE's. You might only make 1-2 sales a day off that gallery at first, but when it hits SE's you will do more.

I know, that there are many affiliates that join programs, never really promote them and bitch that the program sucks. I don't think many suck, you just have to find the best way to promote them to make the sales.

Also, I have seen many affiliate programs that could make changes to their own landing pages and they would convert better.

So it really comes down to learning traffic. How to get it, how to convert it, from your own site getting it to where it goes.

scoreman · 02-16-2005, 08:14 AM

affiliates (excluding mailers)
medium 10-20 sales per day
large 20-50
very large 50-250
800lb gorillas +250 a day

Revshare program
medium 100 joins per day
large 250
very large 500
800lb gorillas +1000

PPS
medium 150 joins per day
large 300
very large 1000
800lb gorillas 5,000 +++++

just my 2 cents.

Nicky · 02-16-2005, 08:17 AM

well, over 30 sales aday id say is alot.....

baddog · 02-16-2005, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

BTW, since you are here, as someone already mentioned, it's kinda ironic that you make that many sales, but you have no idea they make you really elite.

I think the fact that she works with me makes her rather elite.

goodgirl · 02-16-2005, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I think the fact that she works with me makes her rather elite.

sweet, I think.

yellowmenace · 02-16-2005, 10:32 AM

Great Thread!

xNetworx · 02-16-2005, 10:43 AM

I only read the first page but that was enough to call this the most retarded thread I've ever read.

xNetworx · 02-16-2005, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by goodgirl

Well my own goal is 1000 a day. That would be as an affiliate and with programs I work on. To me that would be excellent, and I have no doubt it is possible, like you said there are many affiliate programs out there. You just have to keep tweaking your own sites to produce more results. And look at everyway there is to promote, organic, paid, and email.

I do remember the 3-5 sales a day my first few months and that is good as well, it pays the bills

Posting a gallery a day to TGP's should get you that easily. Especially if your optimizing your galleries for SE's. You might only make 1-2 sales a day off that gallery at first, but when it hits SE's you will do more.

I know, that there are many affiliates that join programs, never really promote them and bitch that the program sucks. I don't think many suck, you just have to find the best way to promote them to make the sales.

Also, I have seen many affiliate programs that could make changes to their own landing pages and they would convert better.

So it really comes down to learning traffic. How to get it, how to convert it, from your own site getting it to where it goes.

1000 a day? Keep fucking dreaming.. most of the biggest programs don't even get that from all their affiliate's sales. No offense but are you high on crack?

andrej_NDC · 02-16-2005, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by pimpporn

1000 a day? Keep fucking dreaming.. most of the biggest programs don't even get that from all their affiliate's sales. No offense but are you high on crack?

I know a program with 6000 daily sales, I think they are the biggest, but not sure, there are 3-4 huge programs with huge sales.

baddog · 02-16-2005, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by pimpporn

1000 a day? Keep fucking dreaming.. most of the biggest programs don't even get that from all their affiliate's sales. No offense but are you high on crack?

No offense, but just because you can't do it, doesn't mean it can't be done.

As stated before, goodgirl is my partner, and I personally vouch for her integrity. When have you ever seen her come in here bragging about anything?

In fact, she is not bragging here . . it is all fact.

xNetworx · 02-16-2005, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

I know a program with 6000 daily sales, I think they are the biggest, but not sure, there are 3-4 huge programs with huge sales.

Hence the "most"... goodgirl was claiming she/he could possibly one day send 1000 sales to programs daily from SEO traffic... Those #s would be tough to believe even when I started in the late 90s.

xNetworx · 02-16-2005, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

No offense, but just because you can't do it, doesn't mean it can't be done.

As stated before, goodgirl is my partner, and I personally vouch for her integrity. When have you ever seen her come in here bragging about anything?

In fact, she is not bragging here . . it is all fact.

Dude, I know you are a pro but 1000 a day @ even a modest $25 per signup = $25,000 a day. Thats OVER 9 Million Dollars a year. Get real

baddog · 02-16-2005, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by pimpporn

Dude, I know you are a pro but 1000 a day @ even a modest $25 per signup = $25,000 a day. Thats OVER 9 Million Dollars a year. Get real

I am sorry, but where did she say she was making 1,000 signups a day?

Go back and read, "wow, 200-300 sales a day is what a good med size sponsor can do? But I have done that (for a month straight even) just as an affiliate. Then stuck around a 100 or so for a long time."

Put down the pipe and step away from the keyboard.

Doctor Dre · 02-16-2005, 11:14 AM

An affiliate that bring 10-15 sales a day is a great affiliate ... for paysiteo wner, I don't know ... 250-500 start beeing a lot ?

bigdog · 02-16-2005, 11:15 AM

do you guys at weconvert do over 100 joins a day

xNetworx · 02-16-2005, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I am sorry, but where did she say she was making 1,000 signups a day?

Go back and read, "wow, 200-300 sales a day is what a good med size sponsor can do? But I have done that (for a month straight even) just as an affiliate. Then stuck around a 100 or so for a long time."

Put down the pipe and step away from the keyboard.

Originally Posted by goodgirl
Well my own goal is 1000 a day. That would be as an affiliate and with programs I work on. To me that would be excellent, and I have no doubt it is possible, like you said there are many affiliate programs out there. You just have to keep tweaking your own sites to produce more results. And look at everyway there is to promote, organic, paid, and email.

I said sending 1000 sales a day as an affiliate from SEO traffic is unrealistic to the point its funny... You don't agree?

xNetworx · 02-16-2005, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by bigdog

do you guys at weconvert do over 100 joins a day

On average? I wish! Working on it though

goodgirl · 02-16-2005, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by pimpporn

Originally Posted by goodgirl
Well my own goal is 1000 a day. That would be as an affiliate and with programs I work on. To me that would be excellent, and I have no doubt it is possible, like you said there are many affiliate programs out there. You just have to keep tweaking your own sites to produce more results. And look at everyway there is to promote, organic, paid, and email.

I said sending 1000 sales a day as an affiliate from SEO traffic is unrealistic to the point its funny... You don't agree?

Uhm read again. I said using organic, paid and email.

baddog · 02-16-2005, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by pimpporn

Originally Posted by goodgirl
Well my own goal is 1000 a day. That would be as an affiliate and with programs I work on. To me that would be excellent, and I have no doubt it is possible, like you said there are many affiliate programs out there. You just have to keep tweaking your own sites to produce more results. And look at everyway there is to promote, organic, paid, and email.

I said sending 1000 sales a day as an affiliate from SEO traffic is unrealistic to the point its funny... You don't agree?

Her goal is 1,000 a day. And she said it would be with paid/organic, and emails. Affiliate and Program sales combined.

If you are going to quote someone, you should at least read what it is you are quoting.

xNetworx · 02-16-2005, 11:26 AM

As an affiliate, program owner and using all means of traffic of possible then 1000 a day sounds more realistic.

Doc Herbal · 02-16-2005, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Her goal is 1,000 a day. And she said it would be with paid/organic, and emails. Affiliate and Program sales combined.

If you are going to quote someone, you should at least read what it is you are quoting.

baddog, got a way to contact you? Sent you an email last week, didn't get a reply. Thanks!

WWC · 02-16-2005, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

I know a program with 6000 daily sales, I think they are the biggest, but not sure, there are 3-4 huge programs with huge sales.

wow....6,000? now thats a shit load...can that be true? what program would that be? how would you know....?

Rorschach · 02-16-2005, 12:57 PM

I could potentially see someone really really good (and really organized) doing 1000 with SEs... after all with SEs you can work in unlimited niches and products (not just adult) at the same time... you just have to have as much stuff in the index as possible before they start kicking it out, and stay ahead of the curve of getting shit banned...

it would be enormously difficult by yourself though...

I remember a couple of years ago that hornyalien guy got google on lockdown and had about the first 50 results for just about every major adult search term and niche, for weeks... he would have made some pretty coin off that.

Rorschach · 02-16-2005, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultLoungeRaffi

wow....6,000? now thats a shit load...can that be true? what program would that be? how would you know....?

I remember reading in an interview ages ago that Sexhit used to do 5000 a day... could all be bullshit though.

02-14-2005, 01:53 AM	#151
SilverTab Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: MTL Posts: 5,060	hmm depends how much you get paid per signup ;) I usually get 50 signups or more, but at 3$ per signups :P... (which is still usually more than 150$/day, so i'm quite happy with that....but of course, more would be better..) __________________ mmm my sig was too big... no more cool animation but hey still! need php? ICQ: 94586959

02-14-2005, 10:17 AM	#157
studio Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Oshkosh, WI ICQ #251860879 Posts: 1,095	What would really be interesting... Would be, if cc bill would put some averages together and have them available. Give some true numbers that webmasters could use as a measuring stick. Numbers without giving names. I think that would help a lot of webmasters. __________________

02-14-2005, 12:22 PM	#161
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	This thread is rather useless anyways as nobody made anything specific. I could spend 20 grand a day on adwords and get 300 signups , or spend nothing and make 5 signups a day and still be making more money than the dude getting 300 signups a day. Sponsors top producers are ALMOST ALWAYS other sponsor programs trading exit consoles etc. So in the end all that matters is NET $$$ So the more FACTUAL questions with SUBSTANCE is, How much $$ do you net a day and what would you consider alot . ? I could get 500 signups a day using a pps program , but still be making more cash doing 100 sales a day on a revshare program __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

02-14-2005, 12:24 PM	#162
studio Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Oshkosh, WI ICQ #251860879 Posts: 1,095	They could put some interesting numbers together... for affiliate sales and for pay site sales. Could be done with different size affiliates and companies... __________________

02-14-2005, 04:25 PM	#164
NinjaSteve Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 11,089	three is a lot. Yeah three. __________________ ...

02-14-2005, 02:15 AM	#152
ATL_Ryan Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,519	100 joins a day as an affiliate is pretty normal for me. That is an average day. I have over 200 accounts. Some I send 25 to 50 joins a day some only 1. I've had plenty of 100 join days with a single program. That is only 4.16 joins per hour. I know there are plenty of people sending much more than this. I recently spoke to a large program owner and was told the their biggest affiliate does a solid 150 joins a day everyday. If you are sending to 20 different programs and do 5 joins on each you've got your hundred. However we have a network of sites I'm sending from and I only get the leftover traffic we don't sell.

02-14-2005, 02:54 AM	#155
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	Averaging 5 to 6 a day is pretty easy... Get yourself 150K in traded traffic and you can do it as a no brainer with FHG's. Averaging 10 to 12 is a bit harder but possible if you do something else instead of doing the same ole shit every day. 20+ is not so much investing in time worked, but instead in time schooled. Once you've schooled yourself enough that isn't so hard to do. So stop looking at, hmmm, can I add 40 more hours to my work week and make twice the money? Look at, can I add ZERO hours and still get twice the work done in that time.

02-14-2005, 12:20 PM	#160
Jey p Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ARGENTINA Posts: 1,810	more than 20 signups a day it's a nice number....

02-16-2005, 06:46 AM	#169
goodgirl Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Behind the monitor since 1988 Posts: 1,679	1 month of sales. Pure organic SE traffic. Just 1 program stats. But there is no money in SEO. __________________ Got Web Host providing Website Hosting since 2002.

02-16-2005, 06:50 AM	#170
goodgirl Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Behind the monitor since 1988 Posts: 1,679	Damn htacess. http://www.adultsem.com/adult-seo-bl...or-gfy-thread/ __________________ Got Web Host providing Website Hosting since 2002.

02-16-2005, 07:10 AM	#174
iforgotmyscreenname Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: ONLINE Posts: 198	my biggest day was 39

02-16-2005, 07:20 AM	#176
lucwylder Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 82	4 sign ups an hour is a respectable goal __________________ http://www.fallenangelvideo.com

02-16-2005, 08:14 AM	#178
scoreman Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,491	affiliates (excluding mailers) medium 10-20 sales per day large 20-50 very large 50-250 800lb gorillas +250 a day Revshare program medium 100 joins per day large 250 very large 500 800lb gorillas +1000 PPS medium 150 joins per day large 300 very large 1000 800lb gorillas 5,000 +++++ just my 2 cents. __________________

02-16-2005, 08:17 AM	#179
Nicky Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 30,069	well, over 30 sales aday id say is alot..... __________________ gfynicky @ gmail.com

02-16-2005, 10:32 AM	#182
yellowmenace Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,141	Great Thread! __________________ Yellow Menace icq# 322981173

02-16-2005, 10:43 AM	#183
xNetworx So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whore Island Posts: 14,445	I only read the first page but that was enough to call this the most retarded thread I've ever read.

02-16-2005, 11:15 AM	#191
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	do you guys at weconvert do over 100 joins a day

02-16-2005, 11:26 AM	#196
xNetworx So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whore Island Posts: 14,445	As an affiliate, program owner and using all means of traffic of possible then 1000 a day sounds more realistic.

02-16-2005, 12:57 PM	#199
Rorschach So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 5,579	I could potentially see someone really really good (and really organized) doing 1000 with SEs... after all with SEs you can work in unlimited niches and products (not just adult) at the same time... you just have to have as much stuff in the index as possible before they start kicking it out, and stay ahead of the curve of getting shit banned... it would be enormously difficult by yourself though... I remember a couple of years ago that hornyalien guy got google on lockdown and had about the first 50 results for just about every major adult search term and niche, for weeks... he would have made some pretty coin off that.