Don't EVER Hire Qman for Designs... Seriously! - GoFuckYourself.com

PornAddict · 03-03-2005, 06:21 AM

As some of you may know, I've been waiting for 10 templates for close to 3 weeks now. He gave a song and dance about how his computer was acting up and couldn't connect to the internet and what not. Anyway, today... we receive a file with our templates and this is the biggest steaming pile of shit I've ever purchased. There is no doubt in my mind that he banged out these turds within 1 hour and just didn't give a shit about quality.

So please, avoid this person like the plague. I'm sure when the smoke clears, he'll be sticking his face around trying to gather up more business... but I will make sure I try to hit any thread he's in to remind people as to what kind of scumbag he really is.

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Jace · 03-03-2005, 06:31 AM

suck dude, sorry you got burned like that....why can't people just be professionals, i don't get it

James White · 03-03-2005, 06:34 AM

I remember seeing the earlier thread about this, i already got him on my ever-growing shitlist.

JFPdude · 03-03-2005, 06:34 AM

ping ns1.q-servers.com
ping: cannot resolve ns1.q-servers.com: Unknown host

shouldn't use him for hosting either.

my 2 cents.

Roald · 03-03-2005, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JaceXXX

suck dude, sorry you got burned like that....why can't people just be professionals, i don't get it

Cause this business is filled with n00bs who want to make a quick buck. Who is this Qman anyway? Never heard of him, only thing I see is thread about how he fucked up. People should think twice before they just go with someone flowing the lowest prices and pay them upfront without knowing them at all imo.

People like him fuck it up for other designers who want to enter the game, too bad.

BuggyG · 03-03-2005, 06:40 AM

n00b or not.. people will always go for lowest price
then they learn
it's human instinct.. go for the lowest for the best deal

tungsten · 03-03-2005, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BuggyG

n00b or not.. people will always go for lowest price
then they learn
it's human instinct.. go for the lowest for the best deal

ive learned the hard way too

PornAddict · 03-03-2005, 06:44 AM

Quick update... he contacted me on icq and just refunded me $90 (I paid $150). While I appreciate that gesture, I told him I would have rather had his quality work. However, at least the guy did something for me. I still lost money because none of these designs will ever see daylight, but at this point recouping anything is a winning situation.

So, would I ever hire him again? No.
Did he fuck me? Yes... but at least he put on vaseline.

Losing $60 is better than losing $150, I guess.

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iwantchixx · 03-03-2005, 06:44 AM

This is why people should hire me to build shit

It gets done, and done right the first time.

Too bad I'm too busy right now to help anyone tho

andrej_NDC · 03-03-2005, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by QuaShe

Cause this business is filled with n00bs who want to make a quick buck. Who is this Qman anyway? Never heard of him, only thing I see is thread about how he fucked up. People should think twice before they just go with someone flowing the lowest prices and pay them upfront without knowing them at all imo.

People like him fuck it up for other designers who want to enter the game, too bad.

true....

Jace · 03-03-2005, 06:47 AM

glad he refunded the money, but I have a feeling it was more to try and save face than him really giving a shit about giving you shitty designs

DaLord · 03-03-2005, 06:48 AM

Well at least I'm not fucking around with bullshit excuses when I say my shit were hacked

http://premiumfreesites.com got hit by those darn brasilian hackers a few days ago.
(I have no idea if there are any trojans there but I think not)

deleteduser · 03-03-2005, 06:54 AM

i'd like to see those templates before judging...

PornAddict · 03-03-2005, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JaceXXX

glad he refunded the money, but I have a feeling it was more to try and save face than him really giving a shit about giving you shitty designs

Yeah.. pretty much. He knew he was busted just rushing the job. He even admitted it in not so many words.

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JFPdude · 03-03-2005, 06:57 AM

It's a shame really the guy does quality work ... however he hit the boards taking orders he couldn't fill.

I have done this in the past myself.

We learn and grow from it.

Optic · 03-03-2005, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by PornAddict

Quick update... he contacted me on icq and just refunded me $90 (I paid $150).

Can you give me his contact? He also owes me.

Q man · 03-03-2005, 07:02 AM

true i have fucked it up so the refund was in order. And not because there is a thread like this because i didn't even know there was this thread. it was just because i don't want to fuck him and if he is not happy then i want to work it out. And yes i made designs that people are happy with, very happy i can say. Now i offered him also a free pay site design. He didn't take it and i respect that.

So i fucked up on this order. Sorry again. but i am not fucking people for a quick bug.

Roald · 03-03-2005, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BuggyG

n00b or not.. people will always go for lowest price
then they learn
it's human instinct.. go for the lowest for the best deal

numorous threads have showed that lowest and best deal don't always mix ;)))

Sure there are lowbudget designers out there who do an excellent job, I think I run very reasonable prices myself. But I can't understand people who think they can get the best for the lowest price. They want to have a paysite, they want to make 10's of thousands but they don't want to pay for it.

Think people, this is a business after all. You can't expect to be in the front row for a penny (or something like that lol) ;)))

PornAddict · 03-03-2005, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Q man

true i have fucked it up so the refund was in order. And not because there is a thread like this because i didn't even know there was this thread. it was just because i don't want to fuck him and if he is not happy then i want to work it out. And yes i made designs that people are happy with, very happy i can say. Now i offered him also a free pay site design. He didn't take it and i respect that.

So i fucked up on this order. Sorry again. but i am not fucking people for a quick bug.

Well... as I stated earlier, I am very appreciative that you refunded more than 50% but it wasn't about the money. Losing $150 wasn't going to kill me. I really wanted your designs because I like what I saw and you seemed sincere when we were setting up the deal. However, once you got the money things went south quickly. You lost contact with me and only seemed to pop up when your name was called out on the board. That, I didn't like.

You do good work with designs, but you dropped the ball with me big time. But, that's in the past now. However, I do appreciate the offer of a free design but can you blame me for passing when you couldn't even fulfill a paid order for me? I never wanted anything more than what I paid for... and what you promised you would deliver.

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PornAddict · 03-03-2005, 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuaShe

numorous threads have showed that lowest and best deal don't always mix ;)))

Sure there are lowbudget designers out there who do an excellent job, I think I run very reasonable prices myself. But I can't understand people who think they can get the best for the lowest price. They want to have a paysite, they want to make 10's of thousands but they don't want to pay for it.

Think people, this is a business after all. You can't expect to be in the front row for a penny (or something like that lol) ;)))

I agree... the cheapest rarely means the best, but then there's times that quality designers come around and offer specials to bring in new business. I looked at his work and liked it.

Also, we have a staff designer but this guy is overloaded with work so I wanted to spread it out a bit and bring in some new templates from a fresh designer. I told Qman up front that I didn't "need" these designs as a life or death thing, but since I liked his work I wanted to have some of his designs.

So anyway, at first he wanted $20 a design. I told him that I was looking for something clean and easy. All the thumbs could be the same design so, in essence, he was really just making a new logo/header and changing the color schemes for the picture galleries and same with the movie galleries. For that, he knocked the price down to $15 a gallery. Sure, it's not the most expensive... but it's also not rock bottom pricing either.

As a business, we're not afraid to spend money. However, we still like to seek out deals... even when we deal with the big boys. Everything is negotiable in this business. No one's rates are set in stone once bulk comes into play (and bulk for you may be different than bulk to someone else).

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TheLegacy · 03-03-2005, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by CeKilleR

i'd like to see those templates before judging...

I was thinking the same thing - dont want to dump on someone without seeing myself the work hes talking about.

can you put up the templates to be fair??

andrej_NDC · 03-03-2005, 07:31 AM

Please post the templates

PornAddict · 03-03-2005, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

I was thinking the same thing - dont want to dump on someone without seeing myself the work hes talking about.

can you put up the templates to be fair??

Fair enough... enjoy:

http://www.pdgalleries.com/qman/01/
http://www.pdgalleries.com/qman/02/
http://www.pdgalleries.com/qman/03/
http://www.pdgalleries.com/qman/04/
http://www.pdgalleries.com/qman/05/
http://www.pdgalleries.com/qman/06/
http://www.pdgalleries.com/qman/07/
http://www.pdgalleries.com/qman/08/

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Barefootsies · 03-03-2005, 07:34 AM

Quote:

e receive a file with our templates and this is the biggest steaming pile of shit I've ever purchased. There is no doubt in my mind that he banged out these turds within 1 hour

andrej_NDC · 03-03-2005, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornAddict

Fair enough... enjoy:

http://www.pdgalleries.com/qman/01/
http://www.pdgalleries.com/qman/02/
http://www.pdgalleries.com/qman/03/
http://www.pdgalleries.com/qman/04/
http://www.pdgalleries.com/qman/05/
http://www.pdgalleries.com/qman/06/
http://www.pdgalleries.com/qman/07/
http://www.pdgalleries.com/qman/08/

- PornAddict

A hint to all designers, until a gallery like this loads
http://www.pdgalleries.com/qman/01/
mine makes already a sale LOL

iwantchixx · 03-03-2005, 07:52 AM

well, some of them aren't all THAT bad considering it was 8 of them for 150. however. The headers on them are fairly heavy for what they really are, a 5 minute job.

With a bit of editing you could probably use some of these.

Eros seems to do good work. dunno if he still takes orders though. Might wanna talk to him to get some more usable ones done up.

Roald · 03-03-2005, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornAddict

I agree... the cheapest rarely means the best, but then there's times that quality designers come around and offer specials to bring in new business. I looked at his work and liked it.

Also, we have a staff designer but this guy is overloaded with work so I wanted to spread it out a bit and bring in some new templates from a fresh designer. I told Qman up front that I didn't "need" these designs as a life or death thing, but since I liked his work I wanted to have some of his designs.

So anyway, at first he wanted $20 a design. I told him that I was looking for something clean and easy. All the thumbs could be the same design so, in essence, he was really just making a new logo/header and changing the color schemes for the picture galleries and same with the movie galleries. For that, he knocked the price down to $15 a gallery. Sure, it's not the most expensive... but it's also not rock bottom pricing either.

As a business, we're not afraid to spend money. However, we still like to seek out deals... even when we deal with the big boys. Everything is negotiable in this business. No one's rates are set in stone once bulk comes into play (and bulk for you may be different than bulk to someone else).

- PornAddict

I am not blaming you for getting good prices on bulk orders, ofcourse I make special prices with huge discounts for bulk orders too. I just think people should do a background check when they do an order (allthough this was a pretty small order). If there is no background then don't pay it all upfront, half is reasonable so there is atleast some safety when the guy fucks it up.

;)))

TDF · 03-03-2005, 08:39 AM

www.eroswebmaster.com holla!

03-03-2005, 06:21 AM	#1
PornAddict Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,401	Don't EVER Hire Qman for Designs... Seriously! As some of you may know, I've been waiting for 10 templates for close to 3 weeks now. He gave a song and dance about how his computer was acting up and couldn't connect to the internet and what not. Anyway, today... we receive a file with our templates and this is the biggest steaming pile of shit I've ever purchased. There is no doubt in my mind that he banged out these turds within 1 hour and just didn't give a shit about quality. So please, avoid this person like the plague. I'm sure when the smoke clears, he'll be sticking his face around trying to gather up more business... but I will make sure I try to hit any thread he's in to remind people as to what kind of scumbag he really is. - PornAddict

03-03-2005, 06:54 AM	#13
deleteduser Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Europe Posts: 2,218	i'd like to see those templates before judging... __________________ ICQ #58981463 Promote my PornAccess Site: 2Chicks1Dick

03-03-2005, 08:39 AM	#28
TDF Triple OG nigga on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in the BP4L family compound Posts: 27,296	www.eroswebmaster.com holla! __________________ Sig heil

03-03-2005, 06:31 AM	#2
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	suck dude, sorry you got burned like that....why can't people just be professionals, i don't get it

03-03-2005, 06:34 AM	#3
James White Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Dirty South, Atlanta ICQ# : 191-402-709 Posts: 1,405	I remember seeing the earlier thread about this, i already got him on my ever-growing shitlist.

03-03-2005, 06:34 AM	#4
JFPdude Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mountains of Western North Carolina. Posts: 4,027	ping ns1.q-servers.com ping: cannot resolve ns1.q-servers.com: Unknown host shouldn't use him for hosting either. my 2 cents.

03-03-2005, 06:40 AM	#6
BuggyG Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ottawa Posts: 4,179	n00b or not.. people will always go for lowest price then they learn it's human instinct.. go for the lowest for the best deal

03-03-2005, 06:44 AM	#8
PornAddict Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,401	Quick update... he contacted me on icq and just refunded me $90 (I paid $150). While I appreciate that gesture, I told him I would have rather had his quality work. However, at least the guy did something for me. I still lost money because none of these designs will ever see daylight, but at this point recouping anything is a winning situation. So, would I ever hire him again? No. Did he fuck me? Yes... but at least he put on vaseline. Losing $60 is better than losing $150, I guess. - PornAddict

03-03-2005, 06:44 AM	#9
iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	This is why people should hire me to build shit It gets done, and done right the first time. Too bad I'm too busy right now to help anyone tho

03-03-2005, 06:47 AM	#11
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	glad he refunded the money, but I have a feeling it was more to try and save face than him really giving a shit about giving you shitty designs

03-03-2005, 06:48 AM	#12
DaLord Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,318	Well at least I'm not fucking around with bullshit excuses when I say my shit were hacked http://premiumfreesites.com got hit by those darn brasilian hackers a few days ago. (I have no idea if there are any trojans there but I think not)

03-03-2005, 06:57 AM	#15
JFPdude Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mountains of Western North Carolina. Posts: 4,027	It's a shame really the guy does quality work ... however he hit the boards taking orders he couldn't fill. I have done this in the past myself. We learn and grow from it.

03-03-2005, 07:02 AM	#17
Q man Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 377	true i have fucked it up so the refund was in order. And not because there is a thread like this because i didn't even know there was this thread. it was just because i don't want to fuck him and if he is not happy then i want to work it out. And yes i made designs that people are happy with, very happy i can say. Now i offered him also a free pay site design. He didn't take it and i respect that. So i fucked up on this order. Sorry again. but i am not fucking people for a quick bug.

03-03-2005, 07:31 AM	#22
andrej_NDC Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7,760	Please post the templates

03-03-2005, 07:52 AM	#26
iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	well, some of them aren't all THAT bad considering it was 8 of them for 150. however. The headers on them are fairly heavy for what they really are, a 5 minute job. With a bit of editing you could probably use some of these. Eros seems to do good work. dunno if he still takes orders though. Might wanna talk to him to get some more usable ones done up.