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UnseenWorld · 01-01-2002, 06:01 PM

I'm a content provider specializing in soft-and medium-core (masturbation, toys, 2-girl) content. Not just because I don't like the atmosphere in the United States, but because there seems to be no practical way to get health care here.

What country would be best? Best in terms of standard of living and availability of reasonably-priced models, in addition to availability of health care (I'm diabetic).

spacedog · 01-01-2002, 06:08 PM

Availability of models..Amsterdam
Best Health Care= Switzerland
Cost of living = Poland

UnseenWorld · 01-01-2002, 06:36 PM

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Originally posted by spacedog:
Availability of models..Amsterdam
Best Health Care= Switzerland
Cost of living = Poland

Hmm, I knew a Netherlands webmaster/content producer who told me Dutch girls don't like to pose nude. That's why he went outside the country to people like me to buy content.

spacedog · 01-01-2002, 06:40 PM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld:
Hmm, I knew a Netherlands webmaster/content producer who told me Dutch girls don't like to pose nude. That's why he went outside the country to people like me to buy content.

I thought Amsterdam was where all the brothels were!

UnseenWorld · 01-01-2002, 06:46 PM

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Originally posted by spacedog:
I thought Amsterdam was where all the brothels were!

So what? I'm looking for fresh-faced teens, not haggard hookers.

Exxxotica · 01-01-2002, 06:48 PM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld:
So what? I'm looking for fresh-faced teens, not haggard hookers.

My friend Dank and I like to meet teens on the bus, or at malls. That's where a lot of them seem to hang out.

We used to go to the highschools, but security asked us not to come on campus anymore.

UnseenWorld · 01-01-2002, 06:49 PM

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Originally posted by Exxxotica:
My friend Dank and I like to meet teens on the bus, or at malls. That's where a lot of them seem to hang out.

We used to go to the highschools, but security asked us not to come on campus anymore.

That was in The Neterlands?

Theo · 01-01-2002, 06:49 PM

come in greece and you'll get the easyjet plane with something like $100 to visit England and shoot amateur teens.

Exxxotica · 01-01-2002, 06:51 PM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld:

That was in The Neterlands?

NO, In Portland Oregon!!!

You see... no need to move!

Anyhoo, Dutch teens wear wooden shoes and stuff...not very attractive.

UnseenWorld · 01-01-2002, 07:09 PM

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Originally posted by Exxxotica:
NO, In Portland Oregon!!!

You see... no need to move!

Anyhoo, Dutch teens wear wooden shoes and stuff...not very attractive.

Go back and read the original message.

Theo · 01-01-2002, 07:11 PM

explain what?

Dopy · 01-01-2002, 07:14 PM

EASYJET = = = CHEAP

Dopy · 01-01-2002, 07:16 PM

And it run by Stellios the Greek - souls brother in law

Dopy · 01-01-2002, 07:19 PM

http://www.easyjet.com

look for souls porn links

Theo · 01-01-2002, 07:36 PM

hehe,actually he's from cyprus, Stelios Hatzioannou. Great mind, he runs easyjet having average age of planes below 5 steadily. His planes land on Luton instead of London (very close) so the company doesnt have to pay the high fee that london airport charges. The flight from greece to london is cheaper than from athens to a greek island lol

[This message has been edited by Soul_Rebel (edited 01-01-2002).]

Theo · 01-01-2002, 07:37 PM

his personal page http://www.stelios.com
he looks good for my sister

lol

Theo · 01-01-2002, 07:40 PM

susan contact ldinternet,he wants something important to tell you

Sjayne · 01-01-2002, 08:39 PM

Stellios is one of those highly annoying (in a good way) buisness geniuses. He's like a cult hero in the UK.

Not just easy jet but he also owns Easy Everything, the biggest chain of 24 hour cyber cafe's in the UK, and Easy Car (or Easy rental..never sure) which is car rental. Also owns Easy Hosting or something like that. Everything is Orange.

He earned my respect when British Airways launched their own lowcost airline (called GO) to rival Easy Jet. He booked a bunch of the seats on their first flight and handed out vouchers for free Easy Jet flights. Total class.

Seriously though...the UK has a National Health Service..its not perfect but it is free at the point of delivery (paid through via all of our taxes). People bitch about it but I personally have had treatment (fertility) that would have cost me thousands of dollars in the states. My husband is also diabetic and disabled and they have treated him well overall.

Thing is, no matter where you are based in Western Europe you are only a short flight or train ride away from the rest of the countries. Cheap, no frills airlines mean you can get from the UK to most European countries for less than 150 pounds.

If you are a legal resident in one EU country it is usually possible to do work in other EU countries.

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Exxxotica · 01-01-2002, 08:47 PM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld:
(I'm diabetic).

Have you ever suffered from DiabeticRage?

01-01-2002, 08:48 PM

lol

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UnseenWorld · 01-01-2002, 08:50 PM

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Originally posted by Exxxotica:
Have you ever suffered from DiabeticRage?

Unsure. Not even sure if it's a serious question.

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Dopy · 01-01-2002, 08:52 PM

Funny .... NOT

Theo · 01-01-2002, 08:54 PM

dopy,how much the london airport charges as fee for flights?

Theo · 01-01-2002, 08:55 PM

wrong icon!

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jscott · 01-02-2002, 07:02 AM

Get some info on Czech Republic, Prague to be specific, that place is beautiful, VERY cheap, and has the most beautiful women. Aw, I love that place! JScott

I've been thinking about making a move like that too and that's the place I would like to go, it's just such a huge change so I've been bullshitting around with the idea.

Good Luck! JScott

oscer · 01-02-2002, 07:36 AM

Well i live in Baltimore and if it is health care your worried about i dont think anywhere else in the world could be the Johns Hopkins Campuses we have here. There hostpitals are at least 10 year more advanced then most in the US and Around the world. Plus we have Shock trama Which can get you to one end of the state to the hospital in like 15 minutes

Robert · 01-02-2002, 08:32 AM

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Originally posted by jscott:
Get some info on Czech Republic, Prague to be specific, that place is beautiful, VERY cheap, and has the most beautiful women. Aw, I love that place! JScott

I've been thinking about making a move like that too and that's the place I would like to go, it's just such a huge change so I've been bullshitting around with the idea.

Good Luck! JScott

tsss, I dont need more content shooters here

[Labret] · 01-02-2002, 09:43 AM

I been toying around with the Czech Republic idea as well. Is it safe for Americans? Easy to get broadband access? Taxes?

I liked Estonia but I was scared the whole time I was there. Finland was awesome but so fucking expensive.

Its a toss up between Holland and Czech. What are the pot laws in the CZ?

UnseenWorld · 01-02-2002, 09:44 AM

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Originally posted by oscer:
Well i live in Baltimore and if it is health care your worried about i dont think anywhere else in the world could be the Johns Hopkins Campuses we have here. There hostpitals are at least 10 year more advanced then most in the US and Around the world. Plus we have Shock trama Which can get you to one end of the state to the hospital in like 15 minutes

We have good health care here in Oregon. We even have a state-mandated health care plan. However, my problem isn't the quality or availability of care, it's the cost and availability of health insurance. Great health care isn't great if you can't get it.

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Star · 01-02-2002, 11:12 AM

i don't know about the pot laws in cz...

but i don't think it's very strict
last time i was there poeple were smoking EVERYWHERE
lol

Trax · 01-02-2002, 11:37 AM

3 choices..
netherlands, germany or uk
those are stable countries and as an US citizen you should have no problem in these countries

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12clicks · 01-02-2002, 11:48 AM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld:
I'm a content provider specializing in soft-and medium-core (masturbation, toys, 2-girl) content. Not just because I don't like the atmosphere in the United States, but because there seems to be no practical way to get health care here.
.

I buy my healthcare. for all of my employees too.
also, if you stay away from underage content, the *atmosphere* is just fine.

UnseenWorld · 01-02-2002, 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks:
I buy my healthcare. for all of my employees too.
also, if you stay away from underage content, the *atmosphere* is just fine.

I stay away from underage content already. If you think that is all prosecutors are interested in prosecuting, though, you are wrong. Also, I would buy my health care, too, if it were affordable. However, if you go to an insurance company with a pre-existing condition like diabetes, the rates you are quoted are not realistic, and subsidized health care is the only rational alternative.

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Tipsy · 01-02-2002, 12:20 PM

At least we do for the most part get 'free' healthcare in the UK. It can be shaky at times especially if you got something like a hip condition that's not urgent but on the whole it works.
As for Easyjet - Ryan Air beet them on prices recently. I had a weekend in Germany for £4 ($6) each way!!! Gotta love the prices of flights in this country

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12clicks · 01-02-2002, 12:28 PM

no country is giving away *good* healthcare. just ask around.
what you have come to expect in America, you won't get for free somewhere else.

And if you work within the law, you don't have problems.

UnseenWorld · 01-02-2002, 12:34 PM

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And if you work within the law, you don't have problems.[/B]

This is awfully naive. Apparently you haven't even read about the trouble that you can get into by simply TURNING IN a pedo site. All of a sudden they confiscate YOUR computer to see what evidence might be on it. If you do want to drop a dime on a pedo site, use the various anonymizing online facilities; don't call your local police department or the FBI.

Also, some prosecutor in Chicken Neck, Arkansas, can get a complaint from an angry parent over what you would consider relatively mild porn and all of a sudden you're on a plane, your computer is confiscated, and most likely trashed by authorities. Then, even if you are found innocent, they are in no way obligated to reimburse you for attorney fees, damage to your equipment, and so on.

The trouble with staying within the law as regards obscenity is that (WRITE THIS DOWN) what is obscene is decided by police, prosecutors, judges, and juries, not you. And they may be in some cultural backwater where standards are totally 1920's not 2002.

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Sjayne · 01-02-2002, 12:47 PM

The health care is not given away in the UK. It is free at the point of delivery. There is a difference. It is paid for through taxes.

The health care on the whole is great. No one has to worry about being able to afford going to the doctors. My husbands is always nagging me to get out of my American mindset when I am sick and go to the doctors. Presciptions are about five pounds each unless you have some sort of state benifit and then they are paid for by the government.

I was lucky growing up in the States because my mother is a teacher and we had good health insurance. However, I knew pleanty of people who didn't and let their health go because they couldn't afford treatment.

Saying that, even though my parents had insurance they still struggled to pay some medical bills. In particular when I was 15 we were on a trip to Cooperstown, NY when my appendix decided it was time to come out. It took forever for my parents to sort out that bill because it was out of state and the such.

WOuld never even have to think about that here..just go to the nearest hospital and get treated. My sister was over visiting last year and got pretty ill with what turned out to be a bad chest infection. We took her to the hospital where she got treated without having to worry about a bill. Can you imagine what it would be like if the situation had been reversed and I was visiting her? I would have to wait to go home to see the doctor becuase there is no way I could afford American medical bills.

The biggest problem in the UK health care system is the lack of nurses. They need to pay them more, in short, as they are on low wages and it doesn't attract young nurses.

Naughty · 01-02-2002, 12:55 PM

No offense, but if all the 'sick' people would come here, we have to pay even MORE fees each month for our health care. They are already going up 10-30% this years, because of all the older people here in the Netherlands. I do not think it would be easy, nor are we waiting for ppl to come over for the good HC plans.

I understand your situation, but if you are not getting a job here, you'll be out in 6 months anyway, you would need a permit to stay here, just like we would when we come over to the US.

Besides that, health care won't be cheap here either, no insurance agency is going to accept you without prior records, and when you do, you have to pay more too.

No such thing as a free ride...

(about Stelios: I hate ppl that borrow 1 billion $$ from daddy and act like they set up a good company on their own... he sure is bright, but he did NOT do it all himself)

12clicks · 01-02-2002, 01:00 PM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld:
This is awfully naive. Apparently you haven't even read about the trouble that you can get into by simply TURNING IN a pedo site. All of a sudden they confiscate YOUR computer to see what evidence might be on it. If you do want to drop a dime on a pedo site, use the various anonymizing online facilities; don't call your local police department or the FBI.

Also, some prosecutor in Chicken Neck, Arkansas, can get a complaint from an angry parent over what you would consider relatively mild porn and all of a sudden you're on a plane, your computer is confiscated, and most likely trashed by authorities. Then, even if you are found innocent, they are in no way obligated to reimburse you for attorney fees, damage to your equipment, and so on.

The trouble with staying within the law as regards obscenity is that (WRITE THIS DOWN) what is obscene is decided by police, prosecutors, judges, and juries, not you. And they may be in some cultural backwater where standards are totally 1920's not 2002.

No, what you've posted is false.
Please post the info of five different people who've turned sites into the FBI and then been arrested. You're good at trotting out One case of a thing happening and then saying "it always happends"

Also, if someone outside of your state has a problem with your content, they WILL NOT be comming after you. You will not, as you say,all of a sudden be on a plane.
Again, please post 5 examples of this if I'm so *naive*

When people are afraid of the law, there's usually a good reason for it.

Paul -C- · 01-02-2002, 02:21 PM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel:
come in greece and you'll get the easyjet plane with something like $100 to visit England and shoot amateur teens.

Can I come visit you then once I make my first $100?

Tipsy · 01-02-2002, 03:41 PM

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Originally posted by Sjayne:
The health care is not given away in the UK. It is free at the point of delivery. There is a difference. It is paid for through taxes.

It's why I put the '' around the word free. Yep it's gotta be paid for somewhere but the point is you don't need to be able to afford it. It's available for all whether they have the income or not. Other than that agree 100%.
12 clicks - you aint got a clue what you're talking about with regards to the free healthcare bit. There are problems but on balance healthcare here is good and IS free. To clarify 'free' you don't have to contribute in any way to receive it. People are paying for it throught taxes (national insurance) but you get it whether you do or don't. However, I generally tend to agree in that it's no reason to move and the law thing is taking paranoia a bit far. MANY European countries have far more restrictive laws and anal judges/courts.
Either way it's not really a reason to move, as if you are making a reasonable living then they will make you pay one way or another. I'd stop being such a tight ass and get some decent US insurance rather than moving. If you're not making enough to afford it then go get a job and quit porn.

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UnseenWorld · 01-02-2002, 03:41 PM

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Originally posted by Naughty:
No offense, but if all the 'sick' people would come here, we have to pay even MORE fees each month for our health care. They are already going up 10-30% this years, because of all the older people here in the Netherlands. I do not think it would be easy, nor are we waiting for ppl to come over for the good HC plans.

I understand your situation, but if you are not getting a job here, you'll be out in 6 months anyway, you would need a permit to stay here, just like we would when we come over to the US.

Besides that, health care won't be cheap here either, no insurance agency is going to accept you without prior records, and when you do, you have to pay more too.

No such thing as a free ride...

(about Stelios: I hate ppl that borrow 1 billion $$ from daddy and act like they set up a good company on their own... he sure is bright, but he did NOT do it all himself)

I would be giving myself a job and paying taxes just like anyone else. Only I'd be getting health care for it instead of cruise missiles, etc.

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Naughty · 01-02-2002, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by UnseenWorld:
I would be giving myself a job and paying taxes just like anyone else. Only I'd be getting health care for it instead of cruise missiles, etc.

hehehe, yeah, those Dubye toys cost a lot of money.

Theo · 01-02-2002, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Paul -C-:

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel:
come in greece and you'll get the easyjet plane with something like $100 to visit England and shoot amateur teens.

Can I come visit you then once I make my first $100?

if you promise to bring your sister sure

Paul -C- · 01-02-2002, 04:42 PM

She is scared of you now after I showed her that photo of you and your goat.

UnseenWorld · 01-02-2002, 07:19 PM

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Originally posted by Naughty:

Quote:

Originally posted by UnseenWorld:
I would be giving myself a job and paying taxes just like anyone else. Only I'd be getting health care for it instead of cruise missiles, etc.

hehehe, yeah, those Dubye toys cost a lot of money.

Dubye toys? Is that an inside joke of some sort?

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01-01-2002, 06:01 PM	#1
UnseenWorld Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Portland, OR, USA Posts: 5,279	I Might Like to Live & Work in Europe I'm a content provider specializing in soft-and medium-core (masturbation, toys, 2-girl) content. Not just because I don't like the atmosphere in the United States, but because there seems to be no practical way to get health care here. What country would be best? Best in terms of standard of living and availability of reasonably-priced models, in addition to availability of health care (I'm diabetic).

01-01-2002, 06:08 PM	#2
spacedog Yes that IS me. Bitch. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 14,149	Availability of models..Amsterdam Best Health Care= Switzerland Cost of living = Poland

01-01-2002, 06:49 PM	#8
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	come in greece and you'll get the easyjet plane with something like $100 to visit England and shoot amateur teens.

01-01-2002, 07:11 PM	#11
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	explain what?

01-01-2002, 07:14 PM	#12
Dopy Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Puerto Del Carmen, Lanzarote, Canary Islands Posts: 1,572	EASYJET = = = CHEAP

01-01-2002, 07:16 PM	#13
Dopy Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Puerto Del Carmen, Lanzarote, Canary Islands Posts: 1,572	And it run by Stellios the Greek - souls brother in law

01-01-2002, 07:19 PM	#14
Dopy Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Puerto Del Carmen, Lanzarote, Canary Islands Posts: 1,572	http://www.easyjet.com look for souls porn links

01-01-2002, 07:36 PM	#15
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	hehe,actually he's from cyprus, Stelios Hatzioannou. Great mind, he runs easyjet having average age of planes below 5 steadily. His planes land on Luton instead of London (very close) so the company doesnt have to pay the high fee that london airport charges. The flight from greece to london is cheaper than from athens to a greek island lol [This message has been edited by Soul_Rebel (edited 01-01-2002).]

01-01-2002, 07:37 PM	#16
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	his personal page http://www.stelios.com he looks good for my sister lol

01-01-2002, 07:40 PM	#17
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	susan contact ldinternet,he wants something important to tell you

01-01-2002, 08:39 PM	#18
Sjayne Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,182	Stellios is one of those highly annoying (in a good way) buisness geniuses. He's like a cult hero in the UK. Not just easy jet but he also owns Easy Everything, the biggest chain of 24 hour cyber cafe's in the UK, and Easy Car (or Easy rental..never sure) which is car rental. Also owns Easy Hosting or something like that. Everything is Orange. He earned my respect when British Airways launched their own lowcost airline (called GO) to rival Easy Jet. He booked a bunch of the seats on their first flight and handed out vouchers for free Easy Jet flights. Total class. Seriously though...the UK has a National Health Service..its not perfect but it is free at the point of delivery (paid through via all of our taxes). People bitch about it but I personally have had treatment (fertility) that would have cost me thousands of dollars in the states. My husband is also diabetic and disabled and they have treated him well overall. Thing is, no matter where you are based in Western Europe you are only a short flight or train ride away from the rest of the countries. Cheap, no frills airlines mean you can get from the UK to most European countries for less than 150 pounds. If you are a legal resident in one EU country it is usually possible to do work in other EU countries. ------------------ Sjayne's Quality Porn Links - Have Free Sites? Submit them to my new link list. XPhotography - Incredible Low Cost Content Source for Adult Webmasters! Candid Clicks - Simply the best blind links sponsor I have ever used. They will even pay into your PayPal account if you want!

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Dopy Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Puerto Del Carmen, Lanzarote, Canary Islands Posts: 1,572	Funny .... NOT

01-01-2002, 08:54 PM	#23
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	dopy,how much the london airport charges as fee for flights?

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01-02-2002, 07:02 AM	#25
jscott So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Taipei Posts: 25,198	Get some info on Czech Republic, Prague to be specific, that place is beautiful, VERY cheap, and has the most beautiful women. Aw, I love that place! JScott I've been thinking about making a move like that too and that's the place I would like to go, it's just such a huge change so I've been bullshitting around with the idea. Good Luck! JScott

01-02-2002, 07:36 AM	#26
oscer Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Baltimore Posts: 2,834	Well i live in Baltimore and if it is health care your worried about i dont think anywhere else in the world could be the Johns Hopkins Campuses we have here. There hostpitals are at least 10 year more advanced then most in the US and Around the world. Plus we have Shock trama Which can get you to one end of the state to the hospital in like 15 minutes

01-02-2002, 09:43 AM	#28
[Labret] Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Са́нкт-Петербу́рг Posts: 10,945	I been toying around with the Czech Republic idea as well. Is it safe for Americans? Easy to get broadband access? Taxes? I liked Estonia but I was scared the whole time I was there. Finland was awesome but so fucking expensive. Its a toss up between Holland and Czech. What are the pot laws in the CZ?

01-02-2002, 11:12 AM	#30
Star Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 74	i don't know about the pot laws in cz... but i don't think it's very strict last time i was there poeple were smoking EVERYWHERE lol

01-02-2002, 11:37 AM	#31
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01-02-2002, 12:20 PM	#34
Tipsy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig Posts: 6,989	At least we do for the most part get 'free' healthcare in the UK. It can be shaky at times especially if you got something like a hip condition that's not urgent but on the whole it works. As for Easyjet - Ryan Air beet them on prices recently. I had a weekend in Germany for £4 ($6) each way!!! Gotta love the prices of flights in this country ------------------ Sleep is something that happens to other people

01-02-2002, 12:28 PM	#35
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,789	no country is giving away good healthcare. just ask around. what you have come to expect in America, you won't get for free somewhere else. And if you work within the law, you don't have problems.

01-02-2002, 12:47 PM	#37
Sjayne Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,182	The health care is not given away in the UK. It is free at the point of delivery. There is a difference. It is paid for through taxes. The health care on the whole is great. No one has to worry about being able to afford going to the doctors. My husbands is always nagging me to get out of my American mindset when I am sick and go to the doctors. Presciptions are about five pounds each unless you have some sort of state benifit and then they are paid for by the government. I was lucky growing up in the States because my mother is a teacher and we had good health insurance. However, I knew pleanty of people who didn't and let their health go because they couldn't afford treatment. Saying that, even though my parents had insurance they still struggled to pay some medical bills. In particular when I was 15 we were on a trip to Cooperstown, NY when my appendix decided it was time to come out. It took forever for my parents to sort out that bill because it was out of state and the such. WOuld never even have to think about that here..just go to the nearest hospital and get treated. My sister was over visiting last year and got pretty ill with what turned out to be a bad chest infection. We took her to the hospital where she got treated without having to worry about a bill. Can you imagine what it would be like if the situation had been reversed and I was visiting her? I would have to wait to go home to see the doctor becuase there is no way I could afford American medical bills. The biggest problem in the UK health care system is the lack of nurses. They need to pay them more, in short, as they are on low wages and it doesn't attract young nurses.

01-02-2002, 12:55 PM	#38
Naughty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Utopia Posts: 6,482	No offense, but if all the 'sick' people would come here, we have to pay even MORE fees each month for our health care. They are already going up 10-30% this years, because of all the older people here in the Netherlands. I do not think it would be easy, nor are we waiting for ppl to come over for the good HC plans. I understand your situation, but if you are not getting a job here, you'll be out in 6 months anyway, you would need a permit to stay here, just like we would when we come over to the US. Besides that, health care won't be cheap here either, no insurance agency is going to accept you without prior records, and when you do, you have to pay more too. No such thing as a free ride... (about Stelios: I hate ppl that borrow 1 billion $$ from daddy and act like they set up a good company on their own... he sure is bright, but he did NOT do it all himself)

01-02-2002, 04:42 PM	#45
Paul -C- Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,255	She is scared of you now after I showed her that photo of you and your goat.