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xNetworx · 04-17-2005, 09:20 PM

100 deathwishes

BlueDesignStudios · 04-17-2005, 09:20 PM

quite an interesting thread this has grown into

Kevsh · 04-17-2005, 09:28 PM

Even a big SOB like Bob Sapp who was MMA fight experience has tapped out. If a smaller fighter can make Sapp tap then Kimbo may be even easier - that is, he has no idea how to guard against submission holds while Sapp does.

Though Kimbo does seem like a masochist type who get's adrenaline off being hit. I'd say the best submissions will be arm or ankle if you can hold on.

Anthony · 04-17-2005, 09:29 PM

I've asked before for DS to show his credentials. I have yet to get an answer from him. He said he trained bjj under Relson for 7 years.

Anyways, back to the discussion. Kimbo is no longer untrained. I met him last month and asked him if he's been training with FFA in Miami, to which he said he was.

For those of you in the know, FFA is the Avellan brother's school. Dig should remember them, as one brother beat our Instructor Rener Gracie during the Ultimate Submission Showdown.

Anthony · 04-17-2005, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevsh

Even a big SOB like Bob Sapp who was MMA fight experience has tapped out. If a smaller fighter can make Sapp tap then Kimbo may be even easier - that is, he has no idea how to guard against submission holds while Sapp does.

Though Kimbo does seem like a masochist type who get's adrenaline off being hit. I'd say the best submissions will be arm or ankle if you can hold on.

You are kidding right? Sapp tapped out to one of the best heavyweight BJJ fighters in the world.

There's a big difference between Nog and Dirty Ds. A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

swedguy · 04-17-2005, 09:32 PM

It would be cool if the fight would actually take place, but I seriously doubt it will happen.

Vitasoy · 04-17-2005, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

You are kidding right? Sapp tapped out to one of the best heavyweight BJJ fighters in the world.

There's a big difference between Nog and Dirty Ds. A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

No shit... Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira took quite a beating too before submitting sapp when he tired out. I'd say hes ranked 3rd in the world in the heavy weight divison. Fedor is first, cro crop I say is 2nd. or maybe 3rd and Antonio is 2nd

chodadog · 04-17-2005, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sonofsam

how do u plan on taking him to the ground before getting knocked out ?

Just think Tank Abbot versus Frank Mir.

Screaming · 04-17-2005, 09:36 PM

well good luck dude if it ever happes

swedguy · 04-17-2005, 09:38 PM

Btw. after seeing you in somce pics I would never think you were into martial arts.

ModelPerfect · 04-17-2005, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by chodadog

Just think Tank Abbot versus Frank Mir.

My favorite was Tank versus Belford... imagine smacking a slugger so much to make him shoot in on a known grappler. lol

TheSenator · 04-17-2005, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty_DS

I am 3rd degree black and he may have just started training but as you know... if I can ever get a half gaurd on him then it's over for him.. bottom line... not saying he could not land a lucky punch on me and knock me silly.. thats very possiable... but it does not seem as his legs are in shape to kick.. nor does he have training to kick... granted he is tough.. but I am sure I can either pass him out or make him tap out... depends on the hold I get at the time... I am betting on a heel lock.. and twist

Kimbo won't tap until the damage is done by the heel hook. I have seen guys trying to fight their way out of a heel hook. Heel hooks could to damage to the knee for life.

TheSenator · 04-17-2005, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty_DS

I am 3rd degree black and he may have just started training but as you know... if I can ever get a half gaurd on him then it's over for him.. bottom line... not saying he could not land a lucky punch on me and knock me silly.. thats very possiable... but it does not seem as his legs are in shape to kick.. nor does he have training to kick... granted he is tough.. but I am sure I can either pass him out or make him tap out... depends on the hold I get at the time... I am betting on a heel lock.. and twist

There are only 36 people in the world who are 3rd degree Black Belts.

Who gave you your belt?

Anthony · 04-17-2005, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator

There are only 36 people in the world who are 3rd degree Black Belts.

Who gave you your belt?

Do you train in NJ? I'm coming up to visit some friends and would like to meet other webmasters, and Hell would be great to roll with them too.

Anthony · 04-17-2005, 10:14 PM

Going back to this challenge.

I'm 6 foot 1, 260lbs. Kimbo is my size.

DS, I've seen your pics/movies, you wouldn't have a chance in Hell. Just by going with Kimbo's fight in the backyard, and his last one with Gannon, you would be chewed up and spit out.

Couple that with his training with the Avellan's, and you have a sprawl and brawler.

Give it up.

Btw, it's 5 grand I believe to fight.

DirtyDanza · 04-17-2005, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

Going back to this challenge.

I'm 6 foot 1, 260lbs. Kimbo is my size.

DS, I've seen your pics/movies, you wouldn't have a chance in Hell. Just by going with Kimbo's fight in the backyard, and his last one with Gannon, you would be chewed up and spit out.

Couple that with his training with the Avellan's, and you have a sprawl and brawler.

Give it up.

Btw, it's 5 grand I believe to fight.

size means nothing.... it really does not... if you know what your doing you can use someones weight aginst them really fast... sorry guys had to run out for a few thats why I have not been here responding.... as far as rolling... I am down to roll with anyone anytime.. I love rolling with someone who knows what he's doing.. thats the only way we all get better.. dig you can ICQ me if you want to ... I will come up there you can come down here we will roll around for some fun then hit the strip here for some whores... my fav 2 pass times....

WarChild · 04-17-2005, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty_DS

size means nothing

Ridiculous. Answer me something, why is every serious combat sport always regulated by weight classes? Size and strength may not be the most important thing, but saying is means nothing is simply ignorant.

Anthony · 04-17-2005, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty_DS

size means nothing.... it really does not... if you know what your doing you can use someones weight aginst them really fast... sorry guys had to run out for a few thats why I have not been here responding.... as far as rolling... I am down to roll with anyone anytime.. I love rolling with someone who knows what he's doing.. thats the only way we all get better.. dig you can ICQ me if you want to ... I will come up there you can come down here we will roll around for some fun then hit the strip here for some whores... my fav 2 pass times....

You are in lala land dude.

Kimbo before he trained with the Avellans would tear you up.

Now, you wouldn't have a chance. Half guard on a guy who will punch your face in, please.

I'm sure you are a good grappler, win some tournaments, enter some ring and cage fights, then think about fighting Kimbo.

Btw, if size and weight doesn't mean anything, can you explain to me why PRIDE FC and UFC have it? LOL

Anthony · 04-17-2005, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

Ridiculous. Answer me something, why is every serious combat sport always regulated by weight classes? Size and strength may not be the most important thing, but saying is means nothing is simply ignorant.

Man, you and I agree on so many things when it comes to fighting, we're gonna have to meet when I come up to Vancity.

Anthony · 04-17-2005, 10:31 PM

Oh btw.

Which BJJ school did you receive your 3rd Degree Black Belt from and from whom?

imafuckingaussie · 04-17-2005, 10:32 PM

Holy Fuck, whats your fighting background DS? I hope its all video'd, this will be awesome.

JulianSosa · 04-17-2005, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty_DS

I will challenge kimbo to a 2 round 5 min a round MMA fight anytime he thinks he's ready.. anyone know how to get a hold of him tell him.. he beats me.. I will give him 50 grand... I beat him which I will .. he gives me 50k bottom line... anyone with any training beisides "back yard" street fighting will take him anyday no matter the size and I am here to prove that... I will have him tap out within the first 1 min of the fight I will bet another 10k on that....

Big balls for sure if you are serious.
Can I take the 10k bet on the one min thing?

WarChild · 04-17-2005, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

Man, you and I agree on so many things when it comes to fighting, we're gonna have to meet when I come up to Vancity.

For sure man, hit me up anytime.

Major (Tom) · 04-17-2005, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jonesy

if danza has 10 yrs of fighting experience - especially gracie style - i would bet on him

yes kimbo is tough mother fucker but a guy who has been trained to fight wins.

I'm glad you edited that

Duke

DirtyDanza · 04-17-2005, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

You are in lala land dude.

Kimbo before he trained with the Avellans would tear you up.

Now, you wouldn't have a chance. Half guard on a guy who will punch your face in, please.

I'm sure you are a good grappler, win some tournaments, enter some ring and cage fights, then think about fighting Kimbo.

Btw, if size and weight doesn't mean anything, can you explain to me why PRIDE FC and UFC have it? LOL

was it done by weight when the good fighters were fighting? when gracie was winning.. shamrock, abbot,

Spunky · 04-17-2005, 10:39 PM

What I seen Kimbo could pummel your face in for 50 k and get your program as well..you aren't serious and this is basically bullshit

DirtyDanza · 04-17-2005, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JulianSosa

Big balls for sure if you are serious.
Can I take the 10k bet on the one min thing?

sure anyone can

DirtyDanza · 04-17-2005, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by spunky

What I seen Kimbo could pummel your face in for 50 k and get your program as well..you aren't serious and this is basically bullshit

I never said he could not pummel my face.. if you look at my post I give him total dominance in the stand up world... in fact one punch from him to me right now witht he lack of getting hit the past year on my part I would prolly be in a coma if not dead.. but the goal is to not get hit.. specally from a hard hitter like him... I have met the guy his hands are like balls and chains... just wicked.. but I doubt his ground fighting skills and I am confident in mine... I would never box him only.. not for 10 million dollars

jonesy · 04-17-2005, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

I'm glad you edited that

Duke

WarChild · 04-17-2005, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty_DS

was it done by weight when the good fighters were fighting? when gracie was winning.. shamrock, abbot,

The UFC had no credibility back then, it wasn't long before nobody anywhere would sanction it. They had to change a bunch of stuff, including adding weight classes, before UFC became a credible foundation.

DirtyDanza · 04-17-2005, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

The UFC had no credibility back then, it wasn't long before nobody anywhere would sanction it. They had to change a bunch of stuff, including adding weight classes, before UFC became a credible foundation.

now it's no good.. if you ask me it was so much better then IMO....

Pipecrew · 04-17-2005, 10:48 PM

I think you'd probably have to sign something saying that if he killed you with a punch, that he isnt liable, I'am sure he'd be worried..

jonesy · 04-17-2005, 10:49 PM

so danza how do you propose to go about the fight?

there is no way any state would sanction this type of fight

WarChild · 04-17-2005, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty_DS

now it's no good.. if you ask me it was so much better then IMO....

You seriously think so?

Back when the Gracies ran the whole thing, and you had to win 3 times for a $10000 purse? When you could lay on the ground, not advancing your position at all for an entire fight? I've watched UFC since the very first one, and I happen to think it's a better *sport* now.

Again, I'm not saying size and weight is the only the, or the most important thing, I'm just saying it's one of the variables.

Spunky · 04-17-2005, 10:51 PM

Fighting doesn't prove shit..save your money and retract your statements.Back out .I'm sure Kimbo would suck this up like a hounds stew

DirtyDanza · 04-17-2005, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

You seriously think so?

Back when the Gracies ran the whole thing, and you had to win 3 times for a $10000 purse? When you could lay on the ground, not advancing your position at all for an entire fight? I've watched UFC since the very first one, and I happen to think it's a better *sport* now.

Again, I'm not saying size and weight is the only the, or the most important thing, I'm just saying it's one of the variables.

in my opnion it was... back when it was a bracket style... 3 opponionts.. thats the real ultimate fighter I think... know what I mean.. as far as laying on your back right away.. thats my plan with this one... never let him get me in his kill zone which is arms length away... I am either hugging him till we both go down or I am down first and I will get him down there with me eveuntauly...

let me quote jonsey on a gracie quote

Royce Gracie Undefeated Ultimate Fighting Champion

"you don't have to be a monster to be the champ. You don't have to be the biggest guy or the one who hits the hardest. And you don't have to get hurt in a fight."

Royce Gracie's opponents consistently outweighed him by more than 50 pounds like dan severen, Kimo Leopoldo by 80 lbs and many others -

Royce Gracie lost 2 fights in other competitions

Gracie lost for the first time in a grappling-only match with another Brazilian-jujutsu expert, Wallid Ismail, by a "clock choke." at the Rio Oscars of Jiu-Jitsu at Copacobana Beach on December 17, 1998

Gracie conceded a match against the renowned champion Kazushi Sakuraba Gracie could no longer stand and suffered a broken femur at the Pride Grand Prix 2000 - Finals

He did not lose against any huge guys but against skilled martial artists, proving that brute force and size wins fights

Gracie gave hope to thousands of martial artists who, like him, may not be the biggest or the strongest in their dojo, but who depend on perfect technique to overcome their opponents in competition.

DirtyDanza · 04-17-2005, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by spunky

Fighting doesn't prove shit..save your money and retract your statements.Back out .I'm sure Kimbo would suck this up like a hounds stew

like I said I have nothing aginst kimbo really cool guy I have met him a few times... just always alot of talk on here (gfy) abot how he's the baddest.. he is bad trust me.. I would not want to have to stand up with him in a ring on an alley... but a skilled person can take a street fighter anyday.. unless.. and it's a really unless they get that one punch in and go in for the kill and someone who knows how to have good offence will know defence as well... there are points where punches and kicks are the strongest where they sting the most... hence the "reach" factor if you stay inside that chances are you will never get that knock out punch from someone.. I have watched him fight.. he hits really really hard

jonesy · 04-17-2005, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty_DS

let me quote jonsey on a gracie quote

i was just thinking of posting that - obviously youve read that other thread on fighting

JulianSosa · 04-17-2005, 10:57 PM

Did you get some new affiliate signs ups yet from this thread?

Anthony · 04-17-2005, 11:24 PM

Let's see.

Royce Gracie has been training before he could walk.

You have never even trained in Gracie Jiu Jitsu.

Royce Gracie has fought numerous competitions and is a game fighter.

We just have your claims that you can fight.

Now, I know Royce Gracie. You Sir, are no Royce Gracie.

DirtyDanza · 04-17-2005, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

Let's see.

Royce Gracie has been training before he could walk.

You have never even trained in Gracie Jiu Jitsu.

Royce Gracie has fought numerous competitions and is a game fighter.

We just have your claims that you can fight.

Now, I know Royce Gracie. You Sir, are no Royce Gracie.

never said I was royce... but yes I have trained for years in a gracie dojo.. and if you belive me or not I could care less I will let the mat do the talking.. and it will sould like this.. ::: tap tap tap::::

gecko · 04-17-2005, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty_DS

was it done by weight when the good fighters were fighting? when gracie was winning.. shamrock, abbot,

That was the wild wild west, People back then only knew one martial art and didn't know how to defend against submissions

Anthony · 04-17-2005, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty_DS

never said I was royce... but yes I have trained for years in a gracie dojo.. and if you belive me or not I could care less I will let the mat do the talking.. and it will sould like this.. ::: tap tap tap::::

So it's trained for years now at a Gracie Dojo? Oh wait a minute, the rest of us Gracie/Brazillian Jiu Jitsu guys call them Academies. Get your nomenclature down right if you are going to lie, eh?

Where again did you get your 3rd degree BB in BJJ? Or is it going to be something else now?

True you never said your were Royce. Just alluding to the fact that because Royce did it, you can.

Get off of Royce's Nuts already. Do somehting on your own, and stop riding that man's jock.

What tournaments have you won? How about ring or cage fights?

What makes you think you can fight at Kimbo's level?

JulianSosa · 04-17-2005, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty_DS

never said I was royce... but yes I have trained for years in a gracie dojo.. and if you belive me or not I could care less I will let the mat do the talking.. and it will sould like this.. ::: tap tap tap::::

How much would you bet on wrestling Anthony?

Anthony would you be willing? hehe

gecko · 04-17-2005, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

Again, I'm not saying size and weight is the only the, or the most important thing, I'm just saying it's one of the variables.

Yes it is.. if they both have the same skills. The bigger dude will win every time

Anthony · 04-17-2005, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by gecko

Yes it is.. if they both have the same skills. The bigger dude will win every time

Gecko,

There's an old BJJ saying. If skillset is the same, for every 20lbs, go up one belt level.

DirtyDanza · 04-17-2005, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JulianSosa

How much would you bet on wrestling Anthony?

Anthony would you be willing? hehe

I will roll with anthony anytime he wants to... just for fun... like I said I love rolling around for a while..... why all of a sudden to they all want to question me and all that shit.. what happend to .. go for it.. you don;e belive me bet aginst me you will win some money know what I mean...

JulianSosa · 04-17-2005, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty_DS

I will roll with anthony anytime he wants to... just for fun... like I said I love rolling around for a while..... why all of a sudden to they all want to question me and all that shit.. what happend to .. go for it.. you don;e belive me bet aginst me you will win some money know what I mean...

Im sure your affiliates are just concerned that you may be injured and not be able to update your site

EDIT GO FOR IT MAN

One thing who is throwing in the 50k and what would it cost to get a legal fight set up with drs, judges, etc ,etc

Anthony · 04-17-2005, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JulianSosa

How much would you bet on wrestling Anthony?

Anthony would you be willing? hehe

I'll roll with anyone, anytime. I don't have a chip on my shoulder and have to show the world how big my balls are.

Anthony · 04-17-2005, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty_DS

I will roll with anthony anytime he wants to... just for fun... like I said I love rolling around for a while..... why all of a sudden to they all want to question me and all that shit.. what happend to .. go for it.. you don;e belive me bet aginst me you will win some money know what I mean...

Cool.

Good training partners are hard to find in different cities.

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Kevsh Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: TO Posts: 8,619	Even a big SOB like Bob Sapp who was MMA fight experience has tapped out. If a smaller fighter can make Sapp tap then Kimbo may be even easier - that is, he has no idea how to guard against submission holds while Sapp does. Though Kimbo does seem like a masochist type who get's adrenaline off being hit. I'd say the best submissions will be arm or ankle if you can hold on.

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Anthony Keyboard Warrior Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: One of the outer rings of Hell Posts: 9,653	I've asked before for DS to show his credentials. I have yet to get an answer from him. He said he trained bjj under Relson for 7 years. Anyways, back to the discussion. Kimbo is no longer untrained. I met him last month and asked him if he's been training with FFA in Miami, to which he said he was. For those of you in the know, FFA is the Avellan brother's school. Dig should remember them, as one brother beat our Instructor Rener Gracie during the Ultimate Submission Showdown.

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swedguy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,981	It would be cool if the fight would actually take place, but I seriously doubt it will happen.

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Anthony Keyboard Warrior Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: One of the outer rings of Hell Posts: 9,653	Going back to this challenge. I'm 6 foot 1, 260lbs. Kimbo is my size. DS, I've seen your pics/movies, you wouldn't have a chance in Hell. Just by going with Kimbo's fight in the backyard, and his last one with Gannon, you would be chewed up and spit out. Couple that with his training with the Avellan's, and you have a sprawl and brawler. Give it up. Btw, it's 5 grand I believe to fight.

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Anthony Keyboard Warrior Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: One of the outer rings of Hell Posts: 9,653	Oh btw. Which BJJ school did you receive your 3rd Degree Black Belt from and from whom?

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Anthony Keyboard Warrior Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: One of the outer rings of Hell Posts: 9,653	Let's see. Royce Gracie has been training before he could walk. You have never even trained in Gracie Jiu Jitsu. Royce Gracie has fought numerous competitions and is a game fighter. We just have your claims that you can fight. Now, I know Royce Gracie. You Sir, are no Royce Gracie.