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Old 07-05-2006, 09:13 PM   #1
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Europe to lose 75 million people

Woah you would think that the USA is the country on the decline with all the harsh talk against America, but the fact is USA is growing and Europe is declining! WTF?
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The U.S. is the fastest growing industrialized nation in the world, adding about 2.8 million people a year. That's a little less than 1 percent, but enough to mitigate the kinds of problems facing Japan and many European countries.

Europe, with 728 million people, saw its population shrink by 74,000 since the beginning of the decade, according to the United Nations. By 2050, it is projected to lose a total of 75 million people.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/07/05/300....ap/index.html
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Old 07-05-2006, 09:14 PM   #2
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The only reason we're growing is that all of Mexico is relocating itself within our borders......
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The only reason we're growing is that all of Mexico is relocating itself within our borders......
Wow you really ARE an idiot....

Bigoted gays. Hmmm...
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The only reason we're growing is that all of Mexico is relocating itself within our borders......

That and you freaking gay homosexuals will not stop breeding!!!!
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US has grown every year since it's founding
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Bigoted gays. Hmmm...
Considering that there are at least seven, and possibly upwards to twenty million ILLEGAL immigrants here (Millions more are stopped from coming into this country EVERY year), the overwhelming majority of which are coming from Mexico, how exactly is he bigoted in that comment? Or is the truth considered bigotry now?
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Old 07-05-2006, 09:27 PM   #8
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Since when is Europe a county? And why do they compare it to the USA which is a country?
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Considering that there are at least seven, and possibly upwards to twenty million ILLEGAL immigrants here (Millions more are stopped from coming into this country EVERY year), the overwhelming majority of which are coming from Mexico, how exactly is he bigoted in that comment? Or is the truth considered bigotry now?
I don't think the Census includes illegals. Plus this thread was mainly referring to Europeans moving to the United States.
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Since when is Europe a county? And why do they compare it to the USA which is a country?

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Old 07-05-2006, 09:31 PM   #11
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Since when is Europe a county? And why do they compare it to the USA which is a country?
Never said Europe was a country, lol still the fact remains Europe as a whole is in decline.
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Yep... all industrialized countries are gonna have that problem. Here with free healtcare and the population getting older, it's gonna be a real problem.
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Yep... all industrialized countries are gonna have that problem. Here with free healtcare and the population getting older, it's gonna be a real problem.
But USA is growing, how do you explain that? Or are you saying we are about to decline?
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Never said Europe was a country, lol still the fact remains Europe as a whole is in decline.
Sheesh... get your head sorted before you make such stupid statements my man
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But USA is growing, how do you explain that? Or are you saying we are about to decline?
US has about 1.5 million immigrants a year, then the immigrants breed.
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US has about 1.5 million immigrants a year, then the immigrants breed.
Ok? So no one immigrates to Europe? Immigration shouldnt be counted?
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Old 07-05-2006, 09:50 PM   #17
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I don't think the Census includes illegals. Plus this thread was mainly referring to Europeans moving to the United States.
Uh, they don't have to get these numbers from the census. They get them from thousands of different sources, most notably the sheer number of illegals that are 'caught and released', the huge number that are caught at the border and turned back into Mexico. The numbers are staggering really, at least seven million immigrants (and no, not all mexicans) are in the United States illegally, a number that many critics say is far to low of a number and gauge it more realistically to be twelve to twenty million illegals.

Also, the CNN article that this thread pointed to doesn't say anything about Europeans moving to America, just that the USA is gaining around 2.8 million people. It doesn't cite where said people are coming from. Sure some of them are logically moving to America, but that's not what the CNN article was about. It was mainly about how the industrialized nations of the world are going to be in a serious situation within the next fifty years if women don't start having more kids. Looks like we may have a use for mexican women after all
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According to this BBC article the estimated immigration influx to European countries is about half a million per year. Im sure someone else can find similiar figures, the FACT REMAINS THAT USA IS GROWING and not only cause immigration.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1434508.stm
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I don't think the Census includes illegals.
Suprisingly it does. It estimates them somehow.
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it is not easy to enter foreighn countries, but possible. Do they count illigal immigrants?
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it's because the mexicans can just run across the border into the states, there's too much ocean for them to swim to Europe. In Canada, we really don't have that problem since the mexicans love heat, however, we just let anyone into the country and hope they stay, ie. terrorists.
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can we please get back to the drama threads now....
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Splum, what's all this comparing Europe to USA, do you have an ego problem or something?
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Splum, what's all this comparing Europe to USA, do you have an ego problem or something?
Tired of all the anti-American threads and comments on GFY. Heh I dont hate Europe at all. Europe is NO BETTER than the USA.
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the Dutch population is growing with like 500 people each year, that's because it's really hard for foreign people to go and move here (especially arabians) and because of our good health care etc people don't breed like crazy and stick with 1 or 2 kids. That's why our population doesn't grow dunno how it's like that in the other Euro countries but I assume it's pretty much the same in germany/france etc
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It's just cuz europeans use the metric system!

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the Dutch population is growing with like 500 people each year, that's because it's really hard for foreign people to go and move here (especially arabians) and because of our good health care etc people don't breed like crazy and stick with 1 or 2 kids. That's why our population doesn't grow dunno how it's like that in the other Euro countries but I assume it's pretty much the same in germany/france etc
Not growing is a bad thing, you do realize this dont you? Your population overall seems to be declining.
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Wow you really ARE an idiot....

Bigoted gays. Hmmm...
OMG shut up. He's completely right.
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European population is declining due to people not breeding. It has nothing to do Europeans moving to United States. I think you misread the thread.

If there is no immigration to USA, the population wouldnot increase as it is now or it might even decline. It happens to all industrial countries. People who have higher education, better standards and more money tend to live their life then having kids, it is that simple.



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Europe will be Muslim before the end of the century, Holland and France will go first. Remember, by 2020 50% of the people under the age of 18 in Holland will be Muslim. Sad but true, and the elitist fucks in power won't do shit about it.
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Woah you would think that the USA is the country on the decline with all the harsh talk against America,
The liberal press doesnt voice the majority of thought here... they just concentrate on what will bring in advertising revenue.
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Oh shit... another Splum thread...

Read.. a need to prove something - right or wrong.

Hey Splum! I hear you can prove next Tuesday is a Friday?

That's got to be worth six threads and 4000 page views debating it
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The liberal press doesnt voice the majority of thought here... they just concentrate on what will bring in advertising revenue.
That I can agree with.
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Oh shit... another Splum thread...
Read.. a need to prove something - right or wrong.
Hey Splum! I hear you can prove next Tuesday is a Friday?
That's got to be worth six threads and 4000 page views debating it
Dont hate Webby, participate! You are scared of me admit it.
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I don't hate - anyone. I also don't talk crap based on bullshit. I also don't give a shit about the EU population or the US population figures. That's their problem.

It's you who seems to have a problem with that - and some bullshit about crime rates - and some crap response to a post by Paul Markham when he was getting pissed with dollar exchange rates (interpreted by you to be "anti-American").

Get a life son and take that chip off your shoulder. It really matters little what one continent has or has not got - unless you want to help others in third world continents - up for that? It's fairly constructive.
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I don't hate - anyone. I also don't talk crap based on bullshit. I also don't give a shit about the EU population or the US population figures. That's their problem. It's you who seems to have a problem with that - and some bullshit about crime rates - and some crap response to a post by Paul Markham when he was getting pissed with dollar exchange rates (interpreted by you to be "anti-American"). Get a life son and take that chip off your shoulder. It really matters little what one continent has or has not got - unless you want to help others in third world continents - up for that? It's fairly constructive.
Im just knee-jerking based on what people like you post thats all. Oh and fuck the third world, pimping porn is way more important right?
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The EU is constantly expanding their borders. So, the overall population count will go up
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Im just knee-jerking based on what people like you post thats all. Oh and fuck the third world, pimping porn is way more important right?
Sorry it may not align totally with your concept of the world - that worries me

You think "pimping porn" is way more important and "fuck the third world"?

Interesting to hear your views on that next

Na.. seriously, don't bother - it would be pointless.
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The EU is constantly expanding their borders. So, the overall population count will go up
Don't complicate things Matiz Young Splum prob can't ID Europe already - nevermind having to add to his problems
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Japan will be the first to see the real trouble of declining birth rates. Their anti-immigration policies will doom them for decades to come.
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America has nearly 300 million, Europe has 728 million. I think they are close to the same land mass size. Maybe we need to trim the numbers a bit.
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Just send them to the US Paul - that should please Splum
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Ok? So no one immigrates to Europe? Immigration shouldnt be counted?
who said that? there's obviously not as many people migrating to europe as there are people leaving or dying.
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America has nearly 300 million, Europe has 728 million. I think they are close to the same land mass size. Maybe we need to trim the numbers a bit.
I'm sure you counted the 140.000.000 Russians in your population stats, so would you like to revise your "same land mass size" comment?

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Originally Posted by bobbyjuly
European population is declining due to people not breeding. It has nothing to do Europeans moving to United States. I think you misread the thread.

If there is no immigration to USA, the population wouldnot increase as it is now or it might even decline. It happens to all industrial countries. People who have higher education, better standards and more money tend to live their life then having kids, it is that simple.
Don't confuse the idiot with facts as he doesn't understand them anyway. Best just to leave him in his little make-believe world as shattering his bubble is just cruel. Answering him only encourages more idiocy.
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