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Old 06-17-2003, 12:45 PM   #1
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XPAYS GETTing sued....

XPAYS is getting sued by microsoft for spam. I just did a search on the board and they are indeed spammers..

Here is a list of people/companies microsoft is suing. Xpays is down there. Incase you dont see it, let me cut their part from microsoft website.

Defendant: XPAYS Inc., San Francisco. Case number: 03-2-27988-9 SEA

Alleged spam activity:

Sent unsolicited e-mail containing explicit images
Used misleading subject lines and spoofed third-party domains, including hotmail.com, msn.com and other domains as the originating e-mail address


Sucks for them i guess
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Old 06-17-2003, 12:47 PM   #2
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Old 06-17-2003, 12:49 PM   #3
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Is XPays the same people that owned XPics?
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Old 06-17-2003, 12:50 PM   #4
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Is XPays the same people that owned XPics?
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Old 06-17-2003, 12:50 PM   #5
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Is XPays the same people that owned XPics?
Don't know but do a search for xpays. They've been spamming people like fuck. No unsubscribe link, etc,
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Old 06-17-2003, 12:55 PM   #6
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John Doe is in there too....

Hey, I saw in the newspaper that he is dead. wtf
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Old 06-17-2003, 12:55 PM   #7
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Spoofing return addresses while spamming is fucked.

Anyone who has owned a domain that has been spoofed by a spammer can tell you how many problems it can cause.
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Old 06-17-2003, 12:57 PM   #8
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Spoofing return addresses while spamming is fucked.

Anyone who has owned a domain that has been spoofed by a spammer can tell you how many problems it can cause.
a few years ago i had someone email me and tell me to stop spamming him. i asked him to email me the header for the email but he never did.

maybe he figured it out.
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Old 06-17-2003, 01:19 PM   #9
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Whether Xpays ever spammed or not its amazing how some people get happy over other peoples misery.

They been around a long time and have never hurt anybody. They have done huge numbers and business with all the big boys who most of you people have been paid by. There is a couple other companies we all know on that list but no one is busting their bubbles.

In the biz we have chose to be in, I wouldn't be throwing rocks at our huge glass house.

Just my 2 cents.

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Old 06-17-2003, 01:22 PM   #10
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birds of a feather ...
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Old 06-17-2003, 01:26 PM   #11
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that John Doe is a bad mofo
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Old 06-17-2003, 01:34 PM   #12
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Old 06-17-2003, 01:42 PM   #13
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Whether Xpays ever spammed or not its amazing how some people get happy over other peoples misery.

They been around a long time and have never hurt anybody. They have done huge numbers and business with all the big boys who most of you people have been paid by. There is a couple other companies we all know on that list but no one is busting their bubbles.

In the biz we have chose to be in, I wouldn't be throwing rocks at our huge glass house.

Just my 2 cents.

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No offense, but that's BS
The people being sued are the one throwing rock at the glass house by sending spam to harvested emails, no remove, with faked headers, etc...

They are the one that will make it a problem for me to send my double-optin daily newsletter.

Its their fault if new laws are going up, its their fault if any promotional email is now called spam

Fuck em

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Old 06-17-2003, 01:43 PM   #14
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maybe someone should sue microsoft for all the fuckin spam i get from them
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Old 06-17-2003, 01:45 PM   #15
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that's what you get for NOT honoring your removes.
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Old 06-17-2003, 01:49 PM   #16
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Whether Xpays ever spammed or not its amazing how some people get happy over other peoples misery.
I believe sad would be a better word than amazing.

I've always found it funny how many people talked a good game about business practices but behind closed doors were doing some of the things they screamed the loudest about.
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Old 06-17-2003, 01:52 PM   #17
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howard, kimmy, sleazy, etc..

Are you in support of spammers that spoof email addresses that belong to other people ? Feel free to let them know they can use YOUR DOMAINS to do this from next time.
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Old 06-17-2003, 02:03 PM   #18
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maybe someone should sue microsoft for all the fuckin spam i get from them
I'm totally with you on that one!!
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Old 06-17-2003, 02:04 PM   #19
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XPAYS is getting sued by microsoft for spam. I just did a search on the board and they are indeed spammers..

Here is a list of people/companies microsoft is suing. Xpays is down there. Incase you dont see it, let me cut their part from microsoft website.

Defendant: XPAYS Inc., San Francisco. Case number: 03-2-27988-9 SEA

Alleged spam activity:

Sent unsolicited e-mail containing explicit images
Used misleading subject lines and spoofed third-party domains, including hotmail.com, msn.com and other domains as the originating e-mail address


Sucks for them i guess
... about motherfucking time, I won´t miss my daily xpas spams !!
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... about motherfucking time, I won´t miss my daily xpyas spams !!
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Old 06-17-2003, 02:06 PM   #21
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guess I am too drunk too post, so please disregard my words ... I am going to flop my wheasel now.
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Alleged spam activity:

Sent unsolicited e-mail containing explicit images
Used misleading subject lines and spoofed third-party domains, including hotmail.com, msn.com and other domains as the originating e-mail address
I think the key here is the spoofed third-party domains.....

While I have no problems with bulkmailers, I do have a problem with people who spoof other peoples' domains in their mailings...I've had my own ISP problems over this...really, what's so hard about adding a remove link and buying a few hundred domains to use instead of spoofing someone elses'?

I also laugh at people who go all gaga over the new anti-spam laws...you realize what they are doing is actually legitimizing spam, but saying "here is a guideline for your spamming"?
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Old 06-17-2003, 02:17 PM   #23
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i believe i saw joee say on the boards something like $7.5 mil if i'n not mistaken
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Old 06-17-2003, 02:21 PM   #24
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Innocent until proven guilty folks.....

This could easily be an affiliate spoofing no?

Let's not rush to judgement.
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I'm amazed at how many people compaire internet advertising to snail mail advertising.

The government does not provide our e-mail addy's for us and control the networks. The internet is private. If Microsoft doesn't want you sending email ad's to their customers, then stop or be sued. Simple as that.
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Innocent until proven guilty folks.....

This could easily be an affiliate spoofing no?

Let's not rush to judgement.
LOL.... I'm sure at this point Microsoft has the proof. It wouldn't have gone this far if they didn't.
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They been around a long time and have never hurt anybody.
One of the single most stupid remarks I've seen in a very long while.
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Old 06-17-2003, 03:13 PM   #28
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you would think adult spammers would clean their list, and get rid of any emails that contain the words webmasters i guess they are too lazy.
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Old 06-17-2003, 03:32 PM   #29
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haha this is funny

Defendants: Email Gold Inc., Linda Jean Lightfoot
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Sent unsolicited e-mail advertising a CD with all the tools necessary to become a high-volume spammer
Offered to sell 30 million e-mail addresses and software that enabled would-be spammers to disguise their identities and the origin of unsolicited e-mail
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Sent unsolicited e-mail advertising a CD with all the tools necessary to become a high-volume spammer
Offered to sell 30 million e-mail addresses and software that enabled would-be spammers to disguise their identities and the origin of unsolicited e-mail
... I´d say in the end she became a victim of her own product.
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Old 06-17-2003, 03:40 PM   #31
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maybe someone should sue microsoft for all the fuckin spam i get from them
Can we get an AMEN....a big motherfuckin' AMEN for that...


In the words of Magnolia Lover:

Fuck MicroSoft.... "...fuck them in their stupid asses!"


hypocritical fucks...

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I personally doubt it is xpays itself spamming. If you look at their setup, it is setup a little different then most affilliate programs. Don't jump on the bandwagon unless you have an xpays account and have used them, and you look at everything. All of the 100+ paysite frontends sit on the xpays.com domain, and have built in numbers for affiliates.

http://www.xpays.com/clients/12345/73/promo.html is a link for VulgarTeens for affiliate 12345, just IMG src that into an email, and affiliate 12345 gets credit for all emails, dialers, joins, exits, etc. Makes the system more "Spam Friendly" then someone like ARS or Topbucks just on the way it is setup, and easier for someone like Microsoft to target, assuming it is xpays spamming them instead of an affiliate.

For those of you that said That Microsoft must have suffient evidence, if you look at the initial documents filed, they filed them in such a way so as they decided someone was a spammer, they could ammend it to it, not stating names till they wanted to at random.

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Interesting stuff.
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there are many adult progs that accpet spamtraffic too bad xpays was singled out
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there are many adult progs that accpet spamtraffic too bad xpays was singled out
or rather... to bad xpays was stupid enough to send forged emails. especially forged to appear to be coming from domains owned by the richest corporation in the WORLD
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or rather... to bad xpays was stupid enough to send forged emails. especially forged to appear to be coming from domains owned by the richest corporation in the WORLD
Exxon?
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I don't know Evan, but Howard nailed it.

People LIVE for other people's misery.

Mostly the ones who enjoy other people misfortunes are the ones who can't even DREAM of achieving what other people have achieved....and those who ride the "high horse",
I personally love every time you fall of it and break your fuckin' necks...

Yes, archibishop of Phoenix, I talk about you!
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that shit is weird.. talked to a few people that were listed on that microsoft link.. and they didn't know anything about it.. never got a letter nothing.. microsoft or no one contacted them.. they just posted up their info and said they did
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I don't know Evan, but Howard nailed it.

People LIVE for other people's misery.

Mostly the ones who enjoy other people misfortunes are the ones who can't even DREAM of achieving what other people have achieved....and those who ride the "high horse",
I personally love every time you fall of it and break your fuckin' necks...

Yes, archibishop of Phoenix, I talk about you!
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Thank you Serge! Apparently neither Howard nor I managed to get our points across and if people here cant figure it out from your post then English is not even a 5th language to them.

The point is NOT what Ev and Michael did or did not do. That is for a judge or a jury to decide.

The point is that all these fuckers sit around and cry about shit and how it's always someone starting it, and all the while who knows what they are doing.
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Thank you Serge! Apparently neither Howard nor I managed to get our points across and if people here cant figure it out from your post then English is not even a 5th language to them.

The point is NOT what Ev and Michael did or did not do. That is for a judge or a jury to decide.

The point is that all these fuckers sit around and cry about shit and how it's always someone starting it, and all the while who knows what they are doing.
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NOBODY argues with me no more when I say that 80% of GFY are bonafied MORONS!
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Everyone loves to see giants fall for many reasons...

Its an opening and opportunity in market share.
Its that simple.

The aftermath is really what matters as dust settles.
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Old 06-17-2003, 07:38 PM   #42
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and here is somethign to relieve the pain of all who are sued by Microsoft...
it could have been worse...



Rob is a commercial saturation diver for Global Divers in Louisiana. He
performs underwater repairs on offshore drilling rigs. Below is an E-mail he
sent to his sister. She then sent it to radio station 103.2 on FM dial in
Ft. Wayne, Indiana, who was sponsoring a worst job experience contest.
Needless to say, she won.


Hi Sue,


Just another note from your bottom dwelling brother. Last week I had a bad
day at the office. I know you've been feeling down lately at work, so I
thought I would share my dilemma with you to make you realize it's not so
bad after all. Before I can tell you what happened to me, I first must bore
you with a few technicalities of my job. As you know, my office lies at the
bottom of the sea. I wear a suit to the office. It's a wet suit. This time
of year the water is quite cool.


So what we do to keep warm is this: We have a diesel powered industrial
water heater. This $20,000 piece of equipment sucks the water out of the
sea. It heats it to a delightful temperature. It then pumps it down to the
diver through a garden hose, which is taped to the air hose. Now this sounds
like a darn good plan, and I've used it several times with no complaints.


What I do, when I get to the bottom and start working, is take the hose and
stuff it down the back of my wet suit. This floods my whole suit with warm
water. It's like working in a Jacuzzi. Everything was going well until all
of a sudden, my butt started to itch. So, of course, I scratched it.


This only made things worse. Within a few seconds my butt started to burn. I
pulled the hose out from my back, but the damage was done. In agony I
realized what had happened. The hot water machine had sucked up a jellyfish
and pumped it into my suit. Now, since I don't have any hair on my back, the
jellyfish couldn't stick to it. However, the crack of my butt was not as
fortunate. When I scratched what I thought was an itch, I was actually
grinding the jellyfish into the crack of my butt. I informed the dive
supervisor of my dilemma over the communicator. His instructions were
unclear due to the fact that he along with five other divers were all
laughing hysterically.


Needless to say I aborted the dive. I was instructed to make three agonizing
in-water decompression stops totaling thirty-five minutes before I could
reach the surface to begin my chamber dry decompression. When I arrived at
the surface, I was wearing nothing but my brass helmet. As I climbed out of
the water, the medic, with tears of laughter running down his face, handed
me a tube of cream and told me to rub it on my butt as soon as I got in the
chamber. The cream put the fire out, but I couldn't poop for two days
because my butt was swollen shut.


So, next time you're having a bad day at work, think about how much worse it
would be if you had a jellyfish shoved up your butt.


Now repeat to yourself, "I love my job, I love my job, I love my job"
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Personally I like the people that file suit against Microsoft

Sun Micro, Netscape many other's which is rather long list

With that many suit's I bet Bill would rather have a Jelly fish stuck up his ass.
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Old 06-18-2003, 02:08 AM   #44
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Global Media, Inc. is on the list too..

I believe that's Hardcoremoney.com
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Old 06-18-2003, 02:25 AM   #45
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Die Schadenfreude ist die beste Freude
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Old 06-18-2003, 01:02 PM   #46
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I was told that xpays is behind the spam being sent out under requestadult.com. I was spammed for years by Rob Gould of babenet.com. When confronted, they told me they wanted my name, babe.net, or they would sue me. I called their bluff, and they backed down like the creeps they are.

In my book, all these spammers should be thrown in jail. They go after poor MARTHA, but porn spammers remain untouched. I have received one or two benefits from Microsoft. What good do we receive from porn spammers except more negative attention from Ashhahahahaha.
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Old 06-18-2003, 01:31 PM   #47
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To Clarify! This is not www.XtremePay.com We have NO affiliation with the above mentioned site.
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Old 06-18-2003, 01:35 PM   #48
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Die Schadenfreude ist die beste Freude
damagefun is the best fun ... wtf ??
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Old 06-18-2003, 01:36 PM   #49
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Global Media, Inc. is on the list too..

I believe that's Hardcoremoney.com
no its one of python companies I would say.
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Old 06-18-2003, 01:37 PM   #50
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Yea crazy imagine how much of that traffic goes thru the industry

Traffic only originates from a few places. if that goes away
type-in or SE might pick up but who knows.

Alot of surfers might never check out adult without it.

then again our Double opt-in lists might perform alot better

Either way it will be interesting to see what happens
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