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SomeCreep · 05-05-2005, 05:38 AM

100 gallery submitters

Kristian · 05-05-2005, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

last i checked does auto submit make all of those tgp pages for you and add the banner of the site on it or the receipt link back, for 1000 sites ??? also you will have to modify if some open to new windows when you click thumbs, some open same window, some need 12 or more pics some need 16, some have to be certain since, some only can have no more then 3 links to your site, etc. etc.. etc... how long will it take you to make all 100 of the pages, load the auto submitter with all the info and hit submit it then track your 100 mess of a clusterfuck of tgp's and good luck tracking your pages to see where the signup came from... even if you can do this in 2 hours (i doubt this) 2hours x 30 days 60 hours total... all of this to generate the same amount of traffic from 1 partner account for a big tgp for say $100 ... hmm $100 to save 60 hours time?

like i said what is your time worth? unless you are happy to make $1.50 an hour???

Chill, Will!

You know, the really good autosubmitters actually make all those pages for you, place all the recips, and even submit in compliance to tgp/mgp rules. Amazing huh? Not that I submit anymore, but I seem to remember it taking about an hour a day, and generating $600 to $800 per day.

Snake Doctor · 05-05-2005, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Lenny2

http://dictionary.reference.com/sear...isintermediate

Duh...

Honey be nice

Snake Doctor · 05-05-2005, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp

i would hate to take webmasters money and not list their galleries...
gallery submitters paying for the pleasure of having their galleries "reviewed" doesnt impress me at all..

You're right Rob. You're the kind of guy who would want to see the galleries before you took payment, so you'd know whether or not this person's galleries are something you would list.

Pierre is doing this with worldsex. He sends out acceptance or decline letters and lets you know why you didn't get listed, and what you have to fix to get listed next time.

Obviously if a TGP owner takes people's money and doesn't list their galleries they won't get any renewals, so the whole process is then moot.

By the way, did you see the new program and suhweet hosted galleries in my sig? *wink wink nudge nudge*

Theo · 05-05-2005, 08:56 AM

i made a similar thread over 2 years ago when gts didnt exist and most tgps didnt sell spots and i was told im out of my mind.

too bad gfy search is down :-)

Snake Doctor · 05-05-2005, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bake

Lenny think about this most of the really big tgp's who are sold out, These spots are mostly taken up with programe owners who make 100% of the sale so they can make less sales and pay more for those spots.

I disagree.
For the past 2 years I've made a living on nothing but paid listings at TGP's. I didn't own a paysite until very recently, so I've been making 60% just like all the other resellers.

I also know a handful of people who do exactly what I do, and they don't own paysites.

Sure the program owner has an advantage by making 100%....however, most program owners don't have any expertise in converting gallery traffic.
People who know how to convert gallery traffic aren't people you can hire either, they make too much money doing their own thing.

NTSS · 05-05-2005, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by cambaby

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disintermediation

Thanks ....I learn something new everyday

NTSS · 05-05-2005, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

Honey be nice

I thought it was funny

will76 · 05-05-2005, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Kristian

Chill, Will!

You know, the really good autosubmitters actually make all those pages for you, place all the recips, and even submit in compliance to tgp/mgp rules. Amazing huh? Not that I submit anymore, but I seem to remember it taking about an hour a day, and generating $600 to $800 per day.

Chill? i'm cool

ok so 1 hour a day 30 hours a month spent that generates the same amount of traffic from 1 partner account that cost you $100 a month ? generalizing here but you should see the point... you could have saved the 30 hours if you paid $100 you were working at 3.33 an hour.. If i was making $800 an hour doing something i would have keep doing it or hired someone to run it for me, why you dont do it anymore...

Xenophage · 05-05-2005, 10:15 AM

Very Interesting Read Thanks

the Shemp · 05-05-2005, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

By the way, did you see the new program and suhweet hosted galleries in my sig? *wink wink nudge nudge*

i'll have a look

doober · 05-05-2005, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp

i'll have a look

Hey Shemp. What is the best way to contact you?
I have tried emailing you at webmaster @ shemp several times and not been able to get in contact with you.

Snake Doctor · 05-05-2005, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by doober

Hey Shemp. What is the best way to contact you?
I have tried emailing you at webmaster @ shemp several times and not been able to get in contact with you.

You have to know the special code. You can only get it from The Leader.

the Shemp · 05-05-2005, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by doober

Hey Shemp. What is the best way to contact you?
I have tried emailing you at webmaster @ shemp several times and not been able to get in contact with you.

rob at shemp dot com
that usually works

Martin · 05-05-2005, 12:10 PM

I saw this coming years ago.. No biggy for me.

Snake Doctor · 05-11-2005, 03:36 PM

Since people are whining in the XNXX submit pass thread I thought this could use a bump

Violetta · 05-11-2005, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kristian

You know, the really good autosubmitters actually make all those pages for you, place all the recips, and even submit in compliance to tgp/mgp rules. Amazing huh? Not that I submit anymore, but I seem to remember it taking about an hour a day, and generating $600 to $800 per day.

Now its more like 50$ per day! It sucks!! But a year ago it was way better. Then I almost made a living only by submitting. Thats not even NEAR possible now!

tony286 · 05-11-2005, 04:59 PM

free traffic will no go away you just have to be more creative. We been on tgp's had my galleries built by one of the best in the biz and it did shit. I think tgp is free loader central for the most part.I think if TGP's were so hot they wouldnt be selling the top spots ,they would be using them their selves. Do much better with niche specific top lists and google.

Snake Doctor · 05-11-2005, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

free traffic will no go away you just have to be more creative. We been on tgp's had my galleries built by one of the best in the biz and it did shit. I think tgp is free loader central for the most part.I think if TGP's were so hot they wouldnt be selling the top spots ,they would be using them their selves. Do much better with niche specific top lists and google.

That's like saying if google traffic were any good they would keep it for themselves instead of selling it via adwords.

There are only so many hours in a day, and just because someone is good at traffic generation doesn't mean they're good at marketing.

Nate-MM2 · 05-11-2005, 06:07 PM

Program owners aren't at the top of the heap in regards to sign-up payouts.

There are guys getting more than a sign-up is actually worth from a revenue standpoint just for getting those sign-ups. So if a program owner is at 100% (not even counting expenses) these guys could be at 150-250%

polish_aristocrat · 05-12-2005, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Nate-MM2

Program owners aren't at the top of the heap in regards to sign-up payouts.

There are guys getting more than a sign-up is actually worth from a revenue standpoint just for getting those sign-ups. So if a program owner is at 100% (not even counting expenses) these guys could be at 150-250%

I know what you mean but i doubt it's true...

Babaganoosh · 05-12-2005, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bake

Your just stupid

Bake · 05-12-2005, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

I disagree.
For the past 2 years I've made a living on nothing but paid listings at TGP's. I didn't own a paysite until very recently, so I've been making 60% just like all the other resellers.

I also know a handful of people who do exactly what I do, and they don't own paysites.

Sure the program owner has an advantage by making 100%....however, most program owners don't have any expertise in converting gallery traffic.
People who know how to convert gallery traffic aren't people you can hire either, they make too much money doing their own thing.

Lenny Ive been making money from galleries before most the people on this board Mums would let them own a PC. If you read all my post you would have noticed Im not shy about buying gallery spots Ive been doing it before it became the norm. Im just saying that some big tgp's that where good value 2 to 3 years ago are no longer as good as they where, Theres some tgp's where I would spend $1000 for a months worth of gallery spots that I wouldent pay $500 for now because there good traffic has left. And I belive its because they now just take payed spots only so there quailty has gone to shit and there bookmarkers are long gone.
Look at my good freind Shemp's site he mixes it up taking both public subs and payed I belive this type of tgp's are the ones to buy on.

Snake Doctor · 05-12-2005, 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Bake

Lenny Ive been making money from galleries before most the people on this board Mums would let them own a PC. If you read all my post you would have noticed Im not shy about buying gallery spots Ive been doing it before it became the norm. Im just saying that some big tgp's that where good value 2 to 3 years ago are no longer as good as they where, Theres some tgp's where I would spend $1000 for a months worth of gallery spots that I wouldent pay $500 for now because there good traffic has left. And I belive its because they now just take payed spots only so there quailty has gone to shit and there bookmarkers are long gone.
Look at my good freind Shemp's site he mixes it up taking both public subs and payed I belive this type of tgp's are the ones to buy on.

You may have a point there. If the quality of a site drops off then you have to look elsewhere for traffic.
However I still believe that "pay to play" is here to stay.

Bake · 05-12-2005, 05:49 AM

"pay to play" is here to stay and as far as I can see untill a new model comes along its here to stay. But there's still room for the pro's otherwise I couldent burn 20 mps a day.

xiando · 05-12-2005, 05:52 AM

Sure you can submit your links to link dump boxes like http://freeporn.xiando.org/ , but the number of visitors you get will be in the thousands. I and other webmasters are still willing to pay for huge traffic regardless of how many sites like that exist.

And the fact that new sites like that appear every day, it will not affect the number of surfers at those high-traffic established sites. The number of surfers (new people getting Internet access) is still growing at the same rate new sites appear...

Snake Doctor · 05-26-2005, 07:28 PM

I'm going to bump this thread every time someone starts a thread whining about another TGP charging for submissions.

Today it's Richards Realm

polish_aristocrat · 05-27-2005, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

I'm going to bump this thread every time someone starts a thread whining about another TGP charging for submissions.

you're so cool

fris · 05-27-2005, 04:05 AM

you will pay for a partner account if the traffic is worth it, and most of us that have been submitting for a while with qualiuty converting high traffic sites. that are partner only will probably stay that way. most of the sites we submit too dont allow free subs

Nicky · 05-27-2005, 04:07 AM

paid partner accounts are all cool in my book.....

michel · 05-27-2005, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

That was once true. However with the way the industry has evolved.......free hosted galleries, content blowout deals, bannerless free hosting, free sponsor content, outsourced labor that can mass produce galleries......submitters are expendable.

I don't think so. No submitters = no galleries. It's still give and take...

Snake Doctor · 05-27-2005, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by michel

I don't think so. No submitters = no galleries. It's still give and take...

It depends on how you define "submitters" I guess Michel.

Your traffic is great and I imagine you'll be the last place around that doesn't charge for submissions, but a guy can't make a living only submitting to you.
So the only guys left to submit anywhere will be the ones willing to pay to play everywhere else.

FilthyRob · 05-27-2005, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by bringer

i think a onetime fee for MOST of these tgps that switched to paid accounts would be the answer rather then month to month bs. big or small, id rather pay that then $50/month hoping to get a listing. with 15-30 new listings per day, i know im already behind the owners friends and long time submitters so with a stroke of luck i might get 1 listing per month

That's what I worry about. Paying money to several places for the opportunity to submit and still get rejected due to more galleries submitted than they list daily. Some people will still get rejected on good clean galleries with fresh content.

And let's not get started on trades. You finally get a listing and 1 out of 4 clicks goes to trades on most places I have surfed lately. And I think that's a pretty conservative ratio on most TGP/MGP's.

Snake Doctor · 07-31-2005, 07:44 AM

bump

Ray@TastyDollars · 07-31-2005, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

bump

What a waste of great sig space ;)

bigdog · 07-31-2005, 07:50 AM

lenny how do your FHG convert compared to what you have seen with other programs?

GoodStuff · 07-31-2005, 08:25 AM

Having to pay for gallery spots just reduces the competition. That's good for anybody that knows how to make sales. But I agree with Bake. A balance of both paid and unpaid spots will be best for the TGP's longevity.

Snake Doctor · 07-31-2005, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by bigdog

lenny how do your FHG convert compared to what you have seen with other programs?

I don't own a TGP so I've never sent traffic to anyone else's hosted galleries, so I really can't compare.

Snake Doctor · 09-28-2005, 09:39 PM

The prophet hath spoken

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...2&page=1&pp=50

Barefootsies · 09-28-2005, 09:47 PM

If your business model is just throw enough shit, and something will stick, you will always have grief.

If you are doing niche, general, or whatever... you need to do you homework, and if you submit to 10/100/1000 small targeted tgp's (or traffic source) for whatever it is you are selling, then you will make better conversions.

It's CONVERSIONS that make or break you. If you did a foot site, and you submit to general, ass, tit places for traffic, even if 1000 times more traffic hits your stuff, you will not convert.

If you submit to 10/100/1000 highly filtered, targetted places, you have a better chance of a sale, or conversion. Whether you are submitting your own paysites, or a gallery submitter, you need to make a better business model to get the targetted, filtered surfer who will actually BUY.

xxxjay · 09-28-2005, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny2

The prophet hath spoken

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...2&page=1&pp=50

Get over yourself.

Satan already told me this last week.

Marshal · 09-28-2005, 10:19 PM

try to to get (buy) couple of partner account on big TGP's and do not worry... ;)

Ace_luffy · 09-28-2005, 10:48 PM

just follow the rules on every tgp sites ....

polish_aristocrat · 12-07-2008, 05:22 AM

so whats the consensus 3 years later?

anyone still making most of his money with submitting?

geirlur · 12-07-2008, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

so whats the consensus 3 years later?

anyone still making most of his money with submitting?

Yeah.. and I make more than I did back then

natas · 12-07-2008, 06:51 AM

I'm still making great money submitting galleries too

Babagirls · 12-07-2008, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

Bannerless free hosting didn't exist.

Ahhhh..I remember those days back in 2001 when free hosting had banners. lol

polish_aristocrat · 12-08-2008, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Babagirls

Ahhhh..I remember those days back in 2001 when free hosting had banners. lol

damn Babagirls, haven't seen you posting in ages

Babagirls · 12-08-2008, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

damn Babagirls, haven't seen you posting in ages

hey ya, polish.

i've been busy doing the mainsteam thing for the past year or so now. figured i'd drop by and see what's shaking on the board. how are ya?

icymelon · 12-08-2008, 09:29 AM

the sky is falling

05-05-2005, 05:38 AM	#101
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05-05-2005, 12:10 PM	#115
Martin "Assassins" Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: At home Posts: 17,277	I saw this coming years ago.. No biggy for me. __________________

05-11-2005, 03:36 PM	#116
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05-12-2005, 05:49 AM	#125
Bake Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Outback of bumfuck Aussie Posts: 4,982	"pay to play" is here to stay and as far as I can see untill a new model comes along its here to stay. But there's still room for the pro's otherwise I couldent burn 20 mps a day. __________________ Buy great domains from drunken burned out old webmaster CHEAP bullseyeporn.com art-met.com and more. Learn how to make a easy extra $500 per week

05-12-2005, 05:52 AM	#126
xiando Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: up north in that viking country Posts: 322	Sure you can submit your links to link dump boxes like http://freeporn.xiando.org/ , but the number of visitors you get will be in the thousands. I and other webmasters are still willing to pay for huge traffic regardless of how many sites like that exist. And the fact that new sites like that appear every day, it will not affect the number of surfers at those high-traffic established sites. The number of surfers (new people getting Internet access) is still growing at the same rate new sites appear... __________________ free porn blog

05-05-2005, 08:56 AM	#105
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,524	i made a similar thread over 2 years ago when gts didnt exist and most tgps didnt sell spots and i was told im out of my mind. too bad gfy search is down :-)

05-05-2005, 10:15 AM	#110
Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	Very Interesting Read Thanks

05-11-2005, 04:59 PM	#118
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	free traffic will no go away you just have to be more creative. We been on tgp's had my galleries built by one of the best in the biz and it did shit. I think tgp is free loader central for the most part.I think if TGP's were so hot they wouldnt be selling the top spots ,they would be using them their selves. Do much better with niche specific top lists and google.

05-11-2005, 06:07 PM	#120
Nate-MM2 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver, CANADA Posts: 263	Program owners aren't at the top of the heap in regards to sign-up payouts. There are guys getting more than a sign-up is actually worth from a revenue standpoint just for getting those sign-ups. So if a program owner is at 100% (not even counting expenses) these guys could be at 150-250%

05-26-2005, 07:28 PM	#127
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	I'm going to bump this thread every time someone starts a thread whining about another TGP charging for submissions. Today it's Richards Realm __________________ sig too big

05-27-2005, 04:05 AM	#129
fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,262	you will pay for a partner account if the traffic is worth it, and most of us that have been submitting for a while with qualiuty converting high traffic sites. that are partner only will probably stay that way. most of the sites we submit too dont allow free subs __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

05-27-2005, 04:07 AM	#130
Nicky Judge Jury and Executioner Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 30,069	paid partner accounts are all cool in my book..... __________________ gfynicky @ gmail.com

07-31-2005, 07:44 AM	#134
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	bump

07-31-2005, 07:50 AM	#136
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	lenny how do your FHG convert compared to what you have seen with other programs?

07-31-2005, 08:25 AM	#137
GoodStuff Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 511	Having to pay for gallery spots just reduces the competition. That's good for anybody that knows how to make sales. But I agree with Bake. A balance of both paid and unpaid spots will be best for the TGP's longevity.

09-28-2005, 09:39 PM	#139
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	The prophet hath spoken http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...2&page=1&pp=50

09-28-2005, 09:47 PM	#140
Barefootsies Choice is an Illusion Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Land of Obama Posts: 42,635	If your business model is just throw enough shit, and something will stick, you will always have grief. If you are doing niche, general, or whatever... you need to do you homework, and if you submit to 10/100/1000 small targeted tgp's (or traffic source) for whatever it is you are selling, then you will make better conversions. It's CONVERSIONS that make or break you. If you did a foot site, and you submit to general, ass, tit places for traffic, even if 1000 times more traffic hits your stuff, you will not convert. If you submit to 10/100/1000 highly filtered, targetted places, you have a better chance of a sale, or conversion. Whether you are submitting your own paysites, or a gallery submitter, you need to make a better business model to get the targetted, filtered surfer who will actually BUY. __________________ Should You Email Your Members? Link1 \| Link2 \| Link3 Enough Said. "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

09-28-2005, 10:19 PM	#142
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09-28-2005, 10:48 PM	#143
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12-07-2008, 05:22 AM	#144
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	so whats the consensus 3 years later? anyone still making most of his money with submitting? __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

12-07-2008, 06:51 AM	#146
natas Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: : unknown Posts: 3,375	I'm still making great money submitting galleries too

12-08-2008, 09:29 AM	#150
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