GREG From SICCASH Falsely Accused Me Of Fraud!! - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

woj · 05-04-2005, 01:30 PM

50...,......

Huggles · 05-04-2005, 01:33 PM

Woj, you always catch the 50, fucking bot!

woj · 05-04-2005, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Huggles

Woj, you always catch the 50, fucking bot!

I'm just good at what I do...

Huggles · 05-04-2005, 02:03 PM

I'm still waiting for my lawsuit, to get beat up at a webmaster show, AND for him to show up at my house and beat me up.

WarChild · 05-04-2005, 02:33 PM

Bahahaha poor Phatzane, now that he's not getting that $20 his monthly income has fallen by at least half.

I'm sure Sic Cash will miss your hits, both of them.

Fucking gay porn bad puppy tool.

kristin · 05-04-2005, 02:34 PM

One company contacted someone for converting too good and inquired about fraud ... They were converting 1:70 and just happen to be doing well and the guy that they accused has been in the industry for at least 5 years to my knowledge. That being said, I'd make damn sure one of my webmasters was actually fraud before accusing or even asking. I would be insulted if I were a webmaster that was converting well for a program and without proper investigation accused of fraud.

WarChild · 05-04-2005, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kristin

One company contacted someone for converting too good and inquired about fraud ... They were converting 1:70 and just happen to be doing well and the guy that they accused has been in the industry for at least 5 years to my knowledge. That being said, I'd make damn sure one of my webmasters was actually fraud before accusing or even asking. I would be insulted if I were a webmaster that was converting well for a program and without proper investigation accused of fraud.

Phatzane isn't a webmaster, he's a sawed off tool.

Snake Doctor · 05-04-2005, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kristin

One company contacted someone for converting too good and inquired about fraud ... They were converting 1:70 and just happen to be doing well and the guy that they accused has been in the industry for at least 5 years to my knowledge. That being said, I'd make damn sure one of my webmasters was actually fraud before accusing or even asking. I would be insulted if I were a webmaster that was converting well for a program and without proper investigation accused of fraud.

I was contacted by a rep once because my conversion ratio (as he put it) was just sick.
1 in 5 or 1 in 10 or something like that.

They'd forgotten that I was hosting the tour and linking to their join page, since they geo-targeted the tour this was the only way I could get the hun to list the gallery.

Had I not known this rep for years, if I was just another nubmer on a spreadsheet, I probably would have gotten canned for fraud also.

Nate-MM2 · 05-04-2005, 03:04 PM

I got canned from SicCash on straight PPC traffic.

polish_aristocrat · 05-04-2005, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

Yes, exactly... so what you did do was fraud, whether for a high or low amount, it's fraud and Brad's system should be commended for catching it.

Brad could have done more than just cancel that sale, he was being nice.

he didn't sign up by himself though

some of his friends did and he didnt even know about that

thats how i read it

polish_aristocrat · 05-04-2005, 03:10 PM

but yes, it's funny cause yesterday there was another big drama over $25 on GFY

Kimmykim · 05-04-2005, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Shok

Zane does this mean you don't want to do an episode for BarebackBottoms.com?

You looking to make your gay porn debut again? ;)

Huggles · 05-04-2005, 03:28 PM

Bitch please, you don't write $20 cheques like these.

phatzane® · 05-04-2005, 03:38 PM

all i know is, the first time someone has a problem with their shitty cash program, they will remember my thread, as well as all the other ones on the other boards calling siccash scamming, shaving snakes. in case you missed it, im the one who told greg to close my account. i dont want to be associated with siccash anyway. the only reason i signed up was to promote my website credits list.

ive hated brad shaws fat ass since the day i met him, i wouldnt even eat his pizza in phoenix after i found out he paid for it lol...

now this proves just how dishonest the rest of his company is. noone has tried to resolve this or help me, just turn around and point their fingers at the accuser because im running this elaborate scheme involving $1 free trials, right?

who the f*ck cares about siccash anyway LOL a bunch of garbage reality sites they cant update and a bunch of dirty gay porn...damn im missing out guys....

i can see how their fraud monitor went off, considering ive NEVER sold a membership to their shitty sites in my life! only program im signed up that ive never recieved a cheque from lol......like i said keep your $20....

as for huggles.....

all i ever hear from people is how he is a nobody and a joke and a waste of my effort...people in person not a screen name, carebear

Kimmykim · 05-04-2005, 03:41 PM

You had 1 hit, 1 sale, an immediate cancellation, AND you admitted you knew the person who signed up, even if only minimally?

Do we have that part right so far?

ronaldo · 05-04-2005, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kimmykim

You had 1 hit, 1 sale, an immediate cancellation, AND you admitted you knew the person who signed up, even if only minimally?

Do we have that part right so far?

Hmmm. I didn't see the one HIT part. If that was the very first hit ever sent and it generated a sale, then I'd say Greg was more than justified in inquiring.

Note-I've also had traffic trickles that would result in a 1:1 ratio, but never the VERY first hit sent to a program. That would certainly set off a red flag immediately.

WarChild · 05-04-2005, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by phatzane®

all i ever hear from people is how he is a nobody and a joke and a waste of my effort...people in person not a screen name, carebear

That doesn't even make sense. Nobody that knows Huggles would tell you anything other than "forget about it Zane, you won't be able to do shit". Truth, try it sometime.

Dalai lama · 05-04-2005, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BradShaw

His account was not killed, the sale was deducted. I do not know the specifics, but something must have been fishy about the sell in the first place to set off our advanced fraud tracking.

Greg is on a flight to Montreal right now. But needless to say, our reputation (and Phatzanes) speak for themselves.

Next idiot.

whoops

Huggles · 05-04-2005, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by phatzane®

as for huggles.....

all i ever hear from people is how he is a nobody and a joke and a waste of my effort...people in person not a screen name, carebear

How did it go from:

"I'm suing you for slander and libel"

"I'm going to kick your ass at the Lightspeed road show"

"I have your home address"

So I never got sued.

I never got beat up.

Nobody ever showed up at my house.

...and finally, after all this time, you say I'm not worth your time. So basically, you're all talk, and no action.

Who are all these people that say I'm a nobody and a joke? I bet you can't name even one of them because if you did, you'd be lying.

Hopefully you will continue to alienate yourself from programs and program owners, so eventually nobody in the online adult business will think of you as anything but a total loser that they won't hire.

I for one, will not promote sites that you've starred in. I only make 10-25 sales a day or so, so yes, I'm a small fish. However, there are many small fish like me out there that I know who think you are a tool. Eventually if enough people think you are a tool and people know that affliates and site owners don't like you, content producers will see that you are a liability and not hire you.

Tool!

phatzane® · 05-04-2005, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kimmykim

You had 1 hit, 1 sale, an immediate cancellation, AND you admitted you knew the person who signed up, even if only minimally?

Do we have that part right so far?

yes that is correct. i also said this in my last post...

i can see how their fraud monitor went off, considering ive NEVER sold a membership to their shitty sites in my life! only program im signed up that ive never recieved a cheque from lol......like i said keep your $20....

Huggles · 05-04-2005, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

That doesn't even make sense. Nobody that knows Huggles would tell you anything other than "forget about it Zane, you won't be able to do shit". Truth, try it sometime.

Truth is as alien to Phatzane as showing up for my ass kicking. Shit, what's a guy gotta do these days to get beat up, sued, or my car vandalized?

Content should not be allowed to use keyboards!

Theo · 05-04-2005, 04:07 PM

Greg wouldnt contact you if he didn't really believe something was up (not saying it was). He is very experienced on it, but everyone makes mistakes and wrong assumptions. You would had my support on this if you were dealing with some nutcase guy, but that's not the case. If you had acted more professional we wouldn't read your thread now.....

phatzane® · 05-04-2005, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Soul_Rebel

Greg wouldnt contact you if he didn't really believe something was up (not saying it was). He is very experienced on it, but everyone makes mistakes and wrong assumptions. You would had my support on this if you were dealing with some nutcase guy, but that's not the case. If you had acted more professional we wouldn't read your thread now.....

i understand this is the wrong way at dealing with an unfortunate misunderstanding, but its just as wrong as sending someone an email basically accusing them of fraud, and not to do it again etc... without even talking to me...

Shok from Siccash already stated that he wanted to can my account, no questions asked. seriously, what company does that?

Huggles · 05-04-2005, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by phatzane®

i understand this is the wrong way at dealing with an unfortunate misunderstanding, but its just as wrong as sending someone an email basically accusing them of fraud, and not to do it again etc... without even talking to me...

Shok from Siccash already stated that he wanted to can my account, no questions asked. seriously, what company does that?

Normal webmaster method:

Email Shok back, explain everything that happened, laugh off the $20, both parties are still amicable ( Phatzane, www.dictionary.com if you have to look it up )

Phatzane method:

Take it to the boards, give up the account, whine over $20, call Brad Shaw names, call Siccash a shitty program, alienate yourself further from webmasters here, look like a tool that freaks out over something that wouldn't cause even Juicy D Links to post.

Kimmykim · 05-04-2005, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ronaldo

Hmmm. I didn't see the one HIT part. If that was the very first hit ever sent and it generated a sale, then I'd say Greg was more than justified in inquiring.

Note-I've also had traffic trickles that would result in a 1:1 ratio, but never the VERY first hit sent to a program. That would certainly set off a red flag immediately.

Yeah, that part seemed to get overlooked by a few people.

Raw:unique:sale conversion numbers are one of the first lines of defense in fraud flags. Then you factor in sales:cancels:refunds/credits and the sirens start going off to boot.

I'm still amazed that after Greg was quite professional in his email to the guy that he went off on the boards like he did.

gregtx · 05-04-2005, 04:20 PM

wow 1000 views and second thread on GFY.. I feel loved...

sorry for the copy paste... and Zane I won't chase ya around to any other boards...

Hello from montreal.. wow.. what a great first thread

ok.. just so everyone knows.. my first email to Zane... :

>>> Hey Zane...
>>>
>>> question.. did you have someone you know do a test join under your
>>> siccash affiliate id?
>>>
>>> please advise.. thanks
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>>
>>> Greg

Zane's first reply:
yes i did, greg. why do you ask?

Zane's immediate second reply:
to tell you the truth. it was the girl who i did the scene with, she hadnt
seen it before so she bought the trial. i didnt know unitl after that the
sale came from her...

Sorry for trying to work with you on this minor faux pas... but you should have never admited to having that girl to a "test join"...

cheers...

L0stMind · 05-04-2005, 04:23 PM

so OWNED!

Huggles · 05-04-2005, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by L0stMind

so OWNED!

I think Phatzane is getting used to it by now. That's why he doesn't post here much.

BigRod · 05-04-2005, 04:29 PM

Im going to be looking into this executive stats program apparently it works well against FRAUD!

stev0 · 05-04-2005, 04:32 PM

So this guy is all cranky because you guys took away a sale that he admitted wasn't legit? Phatzane... from what I understand the only sale you ever had was a fraudulent signup, what are you bitching about? I'd can your ass, Greg was pretty polite about it.

fuzebox · 05-04-2005, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by phatzane®

ive NEVER sold a membership to their shitty sites in my life!

SmokeyTheBear · 05-04-2005, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by gregtx

Sorry for trying to work with you on this minor faux pas... but you should have never admited to having that girl to a "test join"...

cheers...

hmm he should have lied ??

Any legit sponsor would allow 1 test join.

A test join with notification is worthless.

Although everything worked properly in this case it seems ( except the outcome )..

If i did a test join and a sponsor contacted me about it , then everything basically worked properly..

I sure dont want to share my revenue with some webmaster doing 50 test joins ( fraud ).

I dont think a sponsor should be blamed for wanting answers from an affiliate from ( any sale ) . Although the wording of such is obviously key in keeping an affiliate happy.

detoxed · 05-04-2005, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

If you sign up to a site using your referal code, that's fraud. Getting access for less money than what your affiliate payout is... that's fraud.
Simple as that.

blamo .

gregtx · 05-04-2005, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

hmm he should have lied ??

Any legit sponsor would allow 1 test join.

A test join with notification is worthless.

Although everything worked properly in this case it seems ( except the outcome )..

If i did a test join and a sponsor contacted me about it , then everything basically worked properly..

I sure dont want to share my revenue with some webmaster doing 50 test joins ( fraud ).

I dont think a sponsor should be blamed for wanting answers from an affiliate from ( any sale ) . Although the wording of such is obviously key in keeping an affiliate happy.

smokey... if you did a test join .. and then emailed us to let us know... it would not be a problem...

I asked him if he had someone do a "test join" he admited to it.. so I told him.. that we would just deduct that join from his account.. and his account would be left open.. we didn't even "fraud" him out... he chose to act like an idiot...

could you imagine what it could cost a PPS company if they let everyone of their affiliates do a test join??? we have over 20,000 accounts... if everyone of those webmasters did a "test" join.... it would be a very costly "test"... please don;t try to read into this too much.. they guy has no traffic... one hit and one join.. from his friend...

I actually gave him the benefit of the doubt and asked him ... in a polite way.. If I didn't handle this professionally.. I apologize.. and I hope someone can please tell me how to do my job better.. thanks

ronaldo · 05-04-2005, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by gregtx

If I didn't handle this professionally.. I apologize.. and I hope someone can please tell me how to do my job better.. thanks

Knowing ALL the facts, I think you handled it just fine.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 05-04-2005, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by phatzane®

Well first i recieved and email asking me if i knew anyone who purchased a membership through one of my links on MY site.

I have a list of website credits on my site. A girl i know bought a membership and I didnt send her the fucking link, give me a break i have passwords to every site on earth...the girl doesn not know me personally or she would have been able to ask me for a password!

I told him the truth, that the girl i had done my first scene with bought a membership to see her scene. I didnt know anything about it until after the fact, and i had nothing to do with it. but im accused of fraud?!

Now because i met this person twice, ive been accused of fraud, and informed that siccash being so generous, that i can keep my account but wont be paid for for my signups?!

Greg's email says "in the future, if you want to show someone your work just ask us for a user pass"

first off i have userpasses to every siccash site as well as they are on dozens of my other user passwords on sites as feeds.

second, i didnt tell her to check out the site. on my site the link says "my first scene" because people kept emailing me asking which one was. She knew she was my first scene, and i in no way sent her a fucking link!

Anyway i told those scamming fucks to keep their money and close my account, i dont want to be associated with scumbags like that, who just jump to conclusions and accuse me of fraud....

Technically your in the wrong.

Shok · 05-04-2005, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phatzane®

Shok from Siccash already stated that he wanted to can my account, no questions asked. seriously, what company does that?

1: I'm a total prick
2: It was obvious fraud
3: See 1

phatzane® · 05-04-2005, 05:51 PM

greg you're so full of shit your eyes are brown...

i dont know the term "test join" as being a webmaster is not my main source of income, and i only have one site and promote sites only ive been on. i have no knowledge of your geeky webmaster terms. which is why i emailed you again immediately because i knew you were up to something. you honestly think if i was scamming you, id be like "oh ya dude that was me". as you can see you basically just helped me by showing them i told you i didnt know she bought the membership. i tried to contact you and you did nothing to get in touch with me. i mean you got my phone number dude, grow a fucking set of balls.

think for one second why i would scam you for $20. so i can split it with my friend $10 each, and pay her back for her credit card charge? it would cost me $$$ to this elaborate $1 trial scam on you lol

i got $10 in empty soda cans in my garage fawwwk off...

i am own3d...for actually thinking you'd do something about this other than your "attourney-like" responses and portray your "you are a fraud, case closed" attitude. real professional...

Shok · 05-04-2005, 05:55 PM

Zane let me know when you open your affiliate program, I got loads of traffic to send.
I guarantee super high ratios!

SmokeyTheBear · 05-04-2005, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregtx

smokey
I actually gave him the benefit of the doubt and asked him ... in a polite way.. If I didn't handle this professionally.. I apologize.. and I hope someone can please tell me how to do my job better.. thanks

no don't get me wrong, i think it was handled properly , honestly i dont think we saw every conversation that took place, but it seems you handled it politely and properly in my opinion.. The outcome sucked for phatzane , but perhaps he didn't understand the process that got the email sent to him about the signup.

I was just trying to mention its not a "fraud" situation , but more like an affiliate who didnt understand that because of the way it happened it would "surely" hit any "red light" fraud protection in place. Regardless of the intent.

When i mentioned that all sponsors should allow test signups ( without prior notification ) i didn't mention , that if an affilaite does do this it's under the affiliates obligation to contact the sponsor and let them know within 48 hours that they did a "test" signup , because lets be realistic , a test signup is worthless with "notification".

That being said this wasn't a "test signup" or a fraud , but more of a misunderstanding

Dirty D · 05-04-2005, 06:05 PM

Petty Bullshit

iwantchixx · 05-04-2005, 06:08 PM

so someone clicks a link form his site that has a referal code in it and she signs up and it's considered fraud because he talked to her? Shit/

SO if we talk to people and they sign up it's fraud?

No talking allowed?

I don't follow.

If it weren't for him you wouldn't have gotten the sale most likely. So what's the big deal?

Normally I think this kid is an idiot but I have to side with him on this one.

RRRED · 05-04-2005, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shok

1: I'm a total prick
2: It was obvious fraud
3: See 1

I concur with #1

I still can't get over how big that dudes weiner is... unbelievable... I think Shok is actually jealous deep down.

phatzane® · 05-04-2005, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantchixx

so someone clicks a link form his site that has a referal code in it and she signs up and it's considered fraud because he talked to her? Shit/

SO if we talk to people and they sign up it's fraud?

No talking allowed?

I don't follow.

If it weren't for him you wouldn't have gotten the sale most likely. So what's the big deal?

Normally I think this kid is an idiot but I have to side with him on this one.

thanks...i think lol

fawwwk at least someone can see it from my point of view. i talked to that girl briefly 2x in my life.....

SmokeyTheBear · 05-04-2005, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RRRED

I still can't get over how big that dudes weiner is... unbelievable...

Excuse me maam , theres some drool on your chin

phatzane® · 05-04-2005, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

That being said this wasn't a "test signup" or a fraud , but more of a misunderstanding

right on the fucking money...no pun

SmokeyTheBear · 05-04-2005, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by phatzane®

thanks...i think lol

fawwwk at least someone can see it from my point of view. i talked to that girl briefly 2x in my life.....

Well the shame is , that its just a wierd occurance that just doesnt happen very often..

I totally agree that it wasn't fraud , and furthermore , i dont see any reason why you shouldn't still recieve credit for the sale.. You did what any affiliate is supposed to do.. you marketted the product for them.. no shame in that..

Maybe you just thought the intent was wrong on their part in how they contacted you * maybe theres something i didnt read * but that kind of sale is going to throw up red flags at any affiliate program..

Shok · 05-04-2005, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RRRED

I concur with #1

I still can't get over how big that dudes weiner is... unbelievable... I think Shok is actually jealous deep down.

It's an illusion, he's only 3ft tall.

wjxxx · 05-04-2005, 06:57 PM

Similar drama with SIC Cash was a month ago on another board.

Tom_PM · 05-04-2005, 07:01 PM

Not being a webmaster, you obviously didn't realise that one hit + one sale + one cancellation = flagged for fraud investigation.

Now you do.

The End.

05-04-2005, 01:30 PM	#51
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05-04-2005, 01:33 PM	#52
Huggles GFY'S #1 retard Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Kelowna Posts: 11,118	Woj, you always catch the 50, fucking bot! __________________ https://3-veo.com/ The best AI video maker portal.

05-04-2005, 02:03 PM	#54
Huggles GFY'S #1 retard Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Kelowna Posts: 11,118	I'm still waiting for my lawsuit, to get beat up at a webmaster show, AND for him to show up at my house and beat me up. __________________ https://3-veo.com/ The best AI video maker portal.

05-04-2005, 02:33 PM	#55
WarChild Let slip the dogs of war. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bermuda Posts: 17,263	Bahahaha poor Phatzane, now that he's not getting that $20 his monthly income has fallen by at least half. I'm sure Sic Cash will miss your hits, both of them. Fucking gay porn bad puppy tool. __________________ .

05-04-2005, 02:34 PM	#56
kristin GOO! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Back Home : ) Posts: 9,768	One company contacted someone for converting too good and inquired about fraud ... They were converting 1:70 and just happen to be doing well and the guy that they accused has been in the industry for at least 5 years to my knowledge. That being said, I'd make damn sure one of my webmasters was actually fraud before accusing or even asking. I would be insulted if I were a webmaster that was converting well for a program and without proper investigation accused of fraud. __________________ Vacares rules. "Usually only fat guys have the kind of knowledge and ability that Kristin has."

05-04-2005, 03:04 PM	#59
Nate-MM2 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver, CANADA Posts: 263	I got canned from SicCash on straight PPC traffic.

05-04-2005, 03:10 PM	#61
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	but yes, it's funny cause yesterday there was another big drama over $25 on GFY __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

05-04-2005, 03:28 PM	#63
Huggles GFY'S #1 retard Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Kelowna Posts: 11,118	Bitch please, you don't write $20 cheques like these. __________________ https://3-veo.com/ The best AI video maker portal.

05-04-2005, 03:38 PM	#64
phatzane® Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: canada Posts: 1,592	all i know is, the first time someone has a problem with their shitty cash program, they will remember my thread, as well as all the other ones on the other boards calling siccash scamming, shaving snakes. in case you missed it, im the one who told greg to close my account. i dont want to be associated with siccash anyway. the only reason i signed up was to promote my website credits list. ive hated brad shaws fat ass since the day i met him, i wouldnt even eat his pizza in phoenix after i found out he paid for it lol... now this proves just how dishonest the rest of his company is. noone has tried to resolve this or help me, just turn around and point their fingers at the accuser because im running this elaborate scheme involving $1 free trials, right? who the f*ck cares about siccash anyway LOL a bunch of garbage reality sites they cant update and a bunch of dirty gay porn...damn im missing out guys.... i can see how their fraud monitor went off, considering ive NEVER sold a membership to their shitty sites in my life! only program im signed up that ive never recieved a cheque from lol......like i said keep your $20.... as for huggles..... all i ever hear from people is how he is a nobody and a joke and a waste of my effort...people in person not a screen name, carebear __________________ -PHATZANEXXX.COM-

05-04-2005, 03:41 PM	#65
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	You had 1 hit, 1 sale, an immediate cancellation, AND you admitted you knew the person who signed up, even if only minimally? Do we have that part right so far?

05-04-2005, 04:07 PM	#72
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	Greg wouldnt contact you if he didn't really believe something was up (not saying it was). He is very experienced on it, but everyone makes mistakes and wrong assumptions. You would had my support on this if you were dealing with some nutcase guy, but that's not the case. If you had acted more professional we wouldn't read your thread now.....

05-04-2005, 04:20 PM	#76
gregtx Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,929	wow 1000 views and second thread on GFY.. I feel loved... sorry for the copy paste... and Zane I won't chase ya around to any other boards... Hello from montreal.. wow.. what a great first thread ok.. just so everyone knows.. my first email to Zane... : >>> Hey Zane... >>> >>> question.. did you have someone you know do a test join under your >>> siccash affiliate id? >>> >>> please advise.. thanks >>> >>> Best Regards >>> >>> Greg Zane's first reply: yes i did, greg. why do you ask? Zane's immediate second reply: to tell you the truth. it was the girl who i did the scene with, she hadnt seen it before so she bought the trial. i didnt know unitl after that the sale came from her... Sorry for trying to work with you on this minor faux pas... but you should have never admited to having that girl to a "test join"... cheers... __________________ Processing Partners http://www.processingpartners.com

05-04-2005, 04:23 PM	#77
L0stMind Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancity Posts: 1,681	so OWNED! __________________ http://cashcore.com - Make Money. http://ezprovider.net - Hosting.

05-04-2005, 04:29 PM	#79
BigRod Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 3,685	Im going to be looking into this executive stats program apparently it works well against FRAUD! __________________ Rod Macdonald Mainstream Ad Agency Owner ICQ: 607306

05-04-2005, 04:32 PM	#80
stev0 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 6,801	So this guy is all cranky because you guys took away a sale that he admitted wasn't legit? Phatzane... from what I understand the only sale you ever had was a fraudulent signup, what are you bitching about? I'd can your ass, Greg was pretty polite about it.

05-04-2005, 05:51 PM	#88
phatzane® Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: canada Posts: 1,592	greg you're so full of shit your eyes are brown... i dont know the term "test join" as being a webmaster is not my main source of income, and i only have one site and promote sites only ive been on. i have no knowledge of your geeky webmaster terms. which is why i emailed you again immediately because i knew you were up to something. you honestly think if i was scamming you, id be like "oh ya dude that was me". as you can see you basically just helped me by showing them i told you i didnt know she bought the membership. i tried to contact you and you did nothing to get in touch with me. i mean you got my phone number dude, grow a fucking set of balls. think for one second why i would scam you for $20. so i can split it with my friend $10 each, and pay her back for her credit card charge? it would cost me $$$ to this elaborate $1 trial scam on you lol i got $10 in empty soda cans in my garage fawwwk off... i am own3d...for actually thinking you'd do something about this other than your "attourney-like" responses and portray your "you are a fraud, case closed" attitude. real professional... __________________ -PHATZANEXXX.COM-

05-04-2005, 05:55 PM	#89
Shok Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: LIVE EVIL Posts: 5,611	Zane let me know when you open your affiliate program, I got loads of traffic to send. I guarantee super high ratios!

05-04-2005, 06:05 PM	#91
Dirty D Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Paying Webmasters Millions Since 1999 Posts: 4,044	Petty Bullshit __________________ Dirty D - ICQ #1326843 - $1 Million Dollars of Bonus Money - 8,000+ FHG! Glory Hole Girlz - Crack Whore Confessions - Tampa Bukkake - Slut Wife Training - Fuck a Fan Electricity Play - Porn Video Drive - Theater Sluts - Skunk Riley - Ukraine Amateurs - Strapon Sessions

05-04-2005, 06:08 PM	#92
iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	so someone clicks a link form his site that has a referal code in it and she signs up and it's considered fraud because he talked to her? Shit/ SO if we talk to people and they sign up it's fraud? No talking allowed? I don't follow. If it weren't for him you wouldn't have gotten the sale most likely. So what's the big deal? Normally I think this kid is an idiot but I have to side with him on this one.

05-04-2005, 06:57 PM	#99
wjxxx So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,448	Similar drama with SIC Cash was a month ago on another board.

05-04-2005, 07:01 PM	#100
Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	Not being a webmaster, you obviously didn't realise that one hit + one sale + one cancellation = flagged for fraud investigation. Now you do. The End. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.