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Old 05-04-2005, 09:59 AM   #1
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GREG From SICCASH Falsely Accused Me Of Fraud!!

Well first i recieved and email asking me if i knew anyone who purchased a membership through one of my links on MY site.

I have a list of website credits on my site. A girl i know bought a membership and I didnt send her the fucking link, give me a break i have passwords to every site on earth...the girl doesn not know me personally or she would have been able to ask me for a password!

I told him the truth, that the girl i had done my first scene with bought a membership to see her scene. I didnt know anything about it until after the fact, and i had nothing to do with it. but im accused of fraud?!

Now because i met this person twice, ive been accused of fraud, and informed that siccash being so generous, that i can keep my account but wont be paid for for my signups?!

Greg's email says "in the future, if you want to show someone your work just ask us for a user pass"

first off i have userpasses to every siccash site as well as they are on dozens of my other user passwords on sites as feeds.

second, i didnt tell her to check out the site. on my site the link says "my first scene" because people kept emailing me asking which one was. She knew she was my first scene, and i in no way sent her a fucking link!

Anyway i told those scamming fucks to keep their money and close my account, i dont want to be associated with scumbags like that, who just jump to conclusions and accuse me of fraud....
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Old 05-04-2005, 10:02 AM   #2
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That is sad if true, didn't know sponsors still kill accounts so easily.
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Old 05-04-2005, 10:05 AM   #4
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Old 05-04-2005, 10:09 AM   #5
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Didn't siccash start your... uhm... career?
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Old 05-04-2005, 10:10 AM   #6
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im sorry how is it fraud when someone ive met twice and didnt even talk to, goes to www.phatzanexxx.com and clicks a siccash link and buys a membership???

please explain........
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Old 05-04-2005, 10:18 AM   #7
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Old 05-04-2005, 10:20 AM   #8
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His account was not killed, the sale was deducted. I do not know the specifics, but something must have been fishy about the sell in the first place to set off our advanced fraud tracking.

Greg is on a flight to Montreal right now. But needless to say, our reputation (and Phatzanes) speak for themselves.

Next idiot.
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sounds like there fraud system is a little too hardcore.

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Old 05-04-2005, 10:22 AM   #10
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im sorry how is it fraud when someone ive met twice and didnt even talk to, goes to www.phatzanexxx.com and clicks a siccash link and buys a membership???

please explain........
yea that is a little extreeme.. board drama probably won't help your case much either.
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Old 05-04-2005, 10:22 AM   #11
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he probably doesnt send much traffic from his site so when he got a sale, he must have had a very low ratio and that alerted their fraud system
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Old 05-04-2005, 10:24 AM   #12
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mistakes happen, but i'd personally be inclined to side with greg untill i hear his side and he admits a mistake.
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your page looks damn fucked up in firefox
you might want to work on that
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talent buys a membership and its a problem? more like amazing they had a credit card to do so.
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Old 05-04-2005, 10:43 AM   #15
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His account was not killed, the sale was deducted. I do not know the specifics, but something must have been fishy about the sell in the first place to set off our advanced fraud tracking.

Greg is on a flight to Montreal right now. But needless to say, our reputation (and Phatzanes) speak for themselves.

Next idiot.
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Old 05-04-2005, 10:47 AM   #16
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His account was not killed, the sale was deducted. I do not know the specifics, but something must have been fishy about the sell in the first place to set off our advanced fraud tracking.

Greg is on a flight to Montreal right now. But needless to say, our reputation (and Phatzanes) speak for themselves.

Next idiot.

you are a real class act brad, werent u banned? lol. im glad i got to see this side of your company before i made any serious $$$ with your program and get accused of fraud again...because maybe someone who i said hi to a year ago bought a membership from my site (rolls eyes)
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Old 05-04-2005, 11:05 AM   #17
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I accuse phatzane of being a fag.
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Old 05-04-2005, 11:05 AM   #18
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I can't believe this stupid fucking thread. I know it's none of my business, but here is the email that greg sent to this guy. This was posted by phatzane® himself on another board.

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Hi Zane....

in the future, if you want to show someone your work.. email me for a user/pass and I would be more than happy to get you access...

or just do a typein join.. but please do not use your referral code.. as that is considered fraud...

thanks again... hope all is well
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Old 05-04-2005, 11:07 AM   #19
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Do you have proof to back that up?

I accuse him of being a hobbit!
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I can't believe this stupid fucking thread. I know it's none of my business, but here is the email that greg sent to this guy. This was posted by phatzane® himself on another board.
yes sir, that was the email i recieved after a previous one asking me if i knew someone who purchased an account at siccash. i simply repied yes, but she did it through my site, i had nothing to do with it. ive already made it known i didnt know the person, aside from meeting them twice.

next email i recieve is this one posted, and saw my account had been reduced to $0....

real class act siccash....
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If you sign up to a site using your referal code, that's fraud. Getting access for less money than what your affiliate payout is... that's fraud.
Simple as that.
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Whatever dude. I don't care, it's your deal, not mine.
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If you sign up to a site using your referal code, that's fraud. Getting access for less money than what your affiliate payout is... that's fraud.
Simple as that.
exactly!! thankyou very much...

i guess they caught onto my big scam of getting 1 person to sign up to a free trial so we can split the $20!! damn i was going to retire on this sale too
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This is awesome. Big cock ugly fuck fishlips bitches over $20 because he's a dumbass and gets owned on GFY.

Pin this thread please.
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Whether you like Brad or not, you won't find substantiated claims of SIC doing anything out of line to their affiliates. His fraud control is excellent, and the program terms state clearly what is and isn't allowed.

If your account was 0'd out over one sale, I'm guessing that was the only sale you had to date?
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Greg will be dealt with accordingly i'm sure. Brad Shaw doesn't tolerate these type of shenanigans.




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exactly!! thankyou very much...

i guess they caught onto my big scam of getting 1 person to sign up to a free trial so we can split the $20!! damn i was going to retire on this sale too
Yes, exactly... so what you did do was fraud, whether for a high or low amount, it's fraud and Brad's system should be commended for catching it.

Brad could have done more than just cancel that sale, he was being nice.
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If you sign up to a site using your referal code, that's fraud. Getting access for less money than what your affiliate payout is... that's fraud.
Simple as that.
Greg's a class act and I can only say good things about him.

But, this wasn't HIM who signed up under this account so I don't agree with that decision (IF, all the facts presented are accurate). If it became habitual that all of his "Friends" signed up, then I'd be less sympathetic and understand entirely. I think over one signup, that's a little premature.

If one of my friends asks me for a password to a site, I'll bloody well send them a referral code too, from a BUNCH of sites. That's what we're in the business of doing.

I wouldn't sign up MYSELF using my own, but I'm not gonna throw money out the window either.

There's a chance this person could stay a member for 6 months. OR, cancel after a day. That's the chance we take with every surfer we send to a site.

P.S. I'll be in Montreal about noon tomorrow Greg, so you can kick my ass upon arrival.
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Yes, exactly... so what you did do was fraud, whether for a high or low amount, it's fraud and Brad's system should be commended for catching it.

Brad could have done more than just cancel that sale, he was being nice.
HAHAHA holy shit its called sarcasm dude. you people are seriously thick, look at my site, the only reason siccash is even on my site is because i have a website credits list. i could give two shits about their program.

the fraud system is obviously fucked up. some dumb slut i havent talked to for over 3yrs since doing a scene w/ her, and she buys a membership, through my site with her credit card, and im accused of fraud??!

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHHAA
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Greg's a class act and I can only say good things about him.

....But, this wasn't HIM who signed up under this account so I don't agree with that decision (IF, all the facts presented are accurate). If it became habitual that all of his "Friends" signed up, then I'd be less sympathetic and understand entirely. I think over one signup, that's a little premature.
thankyou very much, someone on here isnt brain-dead...

like you said, ya if i had all my friends doing it, would be a different story for sure. thing is i never sent her a link, she got it from my site. she was curious to see the scene. AND I HAVE PASSWORDS already lol. if she was really my "friend" why would i have her pay to see her own scene, hell its probably on my harddrive right now, not to mention a thousand bonus feeds i could have let her watch for free...

think about it. nothing about this accusation makes sense....
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Yes Zane you caught on to our big plans of scamming you.

Damn, it took us over 8 months to plan this and your ruining it!
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all i know is, the first time someone has a problem with your shitty program, they will remember my thread as well as all the other ones on the board calling siccash scamming, shaving snakes. in case you missed it, im the one who told greg to close my account. i dont want to be associated with siccash anyway. the only reason i signed up was to promote my website credits list.

ive hated brad shaws fat ass since the day i met him, i wouldnt even eat his pizza in phoenix after i found out he paid for it lol...

now this proves just how dishonest the rest of his company is. noone has tried to resolve this or help me, just turn around and point their fingers at the accuser because im running this elaborate scheme involving $1 free trials, right?

who the fuck cares about siccash anyway LOL a bunch of garbage reality sites they cant update and a bunch of dirty gay porn...damn im missing out guys....

i can see how your fraud monitor went off, considering ive NEVER sold a membership to your shitty sites in my life! only program im signed up that ive never recieved a cheque from lol......like i said keep your $20
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Zane please stop, your wearing out the violin strings.

Like I said, I considered this join fraud and I wanted to close the account.
Greg decided to talk to you about it and keep your account open, but deduct the fake join.

I'm glad he kept you open because we will be hurting without your server crashing traffic.
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Old 05-04-2005, 12:59 PM   #38
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who the fuck cares about siccash anyway LOL a bunch of garbage reality sites they cant update and a bunch of dirty gay porn...damn im missing out guys....
Zane does this mean you don't want to do an episode for BarebackBottoms.com?
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Let's look at this thread for a second,




1. Phatzane is a tool



2. Everyone knows Phatzane is a tool



3. Nobody cares about Phatzane's account being blocked but him, because that $20 could've gone towards him renting an Escalade with 5 friends to share on a weekend to drive downtown Vancouver cruising Robson Street telling girls he is a big time pornstar so they can help him try and get passed cover at Sonar because his last bit of coin went into gas and lip / ear reduction treatments.



4. Eventually Phatzane will threaten to beat someone up in this thread and then not show up to the ass kicking. Hey Phatzane, you PM'ed me on Vancouver porn that you have my home address. That was over 2 months ago and my S2000 is still sitting outside and it hasn't been touched. My face isn't broken either. What's the deal man?



5. Phatzane IS a fraud.
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Zane please stop, your wearing out the violin strings.

Like I said, I considered this join fraud and I wanted to close the account.
Greg decided to talk to you about it and keep your account open, but deduct the fake join.

I'm glad he kept you open because we will be hurting without your server crashing traffic.



Dude if I were you, I wouldn't dare talk smack about Phatzane. Look at Warchild and I and how we got...uhm.... oh wait, he stood us up. He said he'd come kick our asses at the Vancouver Lightspeed Roadshow, but then it quickly turned into the Vancouver Phatzane NoShow!
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I think Siccash should credit him back the join for bringing them all this free promo

A. For showing us how tight a ship they are running
B. For showing us all how good the fraud detection is in executive stats
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I think Siccash should credit him back the join for bringing them all this free promo

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B. For showing us all how good the fraud detection is in executive stats
Haha, good call!

Not really a bradshaw practice tho *shofar* , lol
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Hey Brad Shaw:


From Phatzane's sig:
bitch please, you aint signin' cheques like these...



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Greg's a class act and I can only say good things about him.

But, this wasn't HIM who signed up under this account so I don't agree with that decision (IF, all the facts presented are accurate). If it became habitual that all of his "Friends" signed up, then I'd be less sympathetic and understand entirely. I think over one signup, that's a little premature.

If one of my friends asks me for a password to a site, I'll bloody well send them a referral code too, from a BUNCH of sites. That's what we're in the business of doing.

I wouldn't sign up MYSELF using my own, but I'm not gonna throw money out the window either.

There's a chance this person could stay a member for 6 months. OR, cancel after a day. That's the chance we take with every surfer we send to a site.

P.S. I'll be in Montreal about noon tomorrow Greg, so you can kick my ass upon arrival.

exactly, this guys friend buys a membership using his ref code without his knowledge and now hes a scammer?

makes no sense to me.
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Phatzane, show them your "O" face and see if they'll give you the money then
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Shok, you're really pushing your luck here man. Phatzane is going to have you kidnapped and whipped with extension cords. Soon the threats of "Come to downtown Vancouver and holla at me" will soon fly.
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Shok, you're really pushing your luck here man. Phatzane is going to have you kidnapped and whipped with extension cords. Soon the threats of "Come to downtown Vancouver and holla at me" will soon fly.

And you think shok doesn't want this? You should see his basement.
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