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woj · 05-11-2005, 12:33 AM

100 mailers..

Anthony · 05-11-2005, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Agnosticism

You fucken tools. There was a guy making 20k/day and just recently he filed bankrupcy. Why? All the big corps sued his ass until he had no more funds. People still make good cash now a days but the big earners invest way MUCH more money then you think. Along with that you pretty much to have to become a ghost because to generate that will be insane heat. You will be served your papers in the matter of weeks, but I am not going to get into that.

So your best bet is to establish a "real" business, it will pay off in the long run. No need to worry about lawsuits and won't have to live your income day by day.

You are referring to non can spam compliant mailers. Proxy sending has gone way of the Dodo. Time to move on and become legit.

V_RocKs · 03-27-2007, 09:34 AM

I am high right now.

Phoenix · 03-27-2007, 09:38 AM

old thread to bump
money in mailings...who would have guessed ;)

slapass · 01-05-2008, 12:29 PM

three years later and i wonder if any of this is still true???

V_RocKs · 01-05-2008, 01:43 PM

Funny.. I just started getting into mailers lately and it all seems true.

Opt-in lists are "fun"...

crockett · 01-05-2008, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by nico-t

2nd time i ask and now i want answers:
How does mailing work? Is it like opt in ad mailing or something?

It works by installing trojans on other people PC's. The mailers then use those PC's and their unsuspecting users as a proxie to send mails from.

The guys that are making big money from mailing are not doing it on the up and up. They are supporting the very scumbags whom hack and install trojans on our sites.

When you see guys asking for proxies or selling proxies, well that's what they are selling, IP's of infected PC's.

Reguardless if the lists are legit, 9 times out of 10 they are still proxie mailing, which is illegal.

V_RocKs · 01-05-2008, 02:07 PM

I don't use proxies... I just collect peoples email on my sites and then email them shit like reviews and blog posts. All legit. Free and easy money.

slapass · 01-05-2008, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Funny.. I just started getting into mailers lately and it all seems true.

Opt-in lists are "fun"...

hmm we should talk hehe

cykoe6 · 01-05-2008, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

I don't use proxies... I just collect peoples email on my sites and then email them shit like reviews and blog posts. All legit. Free and easy money.

I have been collecting emails the same way but I am wondering what are good sponsors to use? It seems most sponsors don't allow email promo of any kind, even if it is double opt in like the addresses I have.

V_RocKs · 01-05-2008, 07:29 PM

Yeah... They all say that... And I just pretend I never read that... ;)

psili · 01-05-2008, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Yeah... They all say that... And I just pretend I never read that... ;)

You don't use proxies yet you don't adhere to sponsor TOCs? I bet you only send to "triple-opted-in with a verified signature" email as well? All you spammers are shady fuckers, even those sticking shit in my physical mail box. If Dante was alive there'd be a new level of Hell for you bitches.

Anyway, I'll give you one thing, I bet the sponsors really don't give a shit how they get sales though, so good on you, man. Make that cash, I guess. *shrug*

Xrated J · 01-05-2008, 08:31 PM

this thread has been a fun read

crockett · 01-05-2008, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

I don't use proxies... I just collect peoples email on my sites and then email them shit like reviews and blog posts. All legit. Free and easy money.

Yea but I was talking about the guys people think of when talking about mailers. What you are doing is more like a newsletter. Sure it's mailing, but you aren't sending millions of e-mails a day.

minusonebit · 01-05-2008, 11:12 PM

Here is a good place for spammers:

V_RocKs · 01-06-2008, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by psili

You don't use proxies yet you don't adhere to sponsor TOCs? I bet you only send to "triple-opted-in with a verified signature" email as well? All you spammers are shady fuckers, even those sticking shit in my physical mail box. If Dante was alive there'd be a new level of Hell for you bitches.

Anyway, I'll give you one thing, I bet the sponsors really don't give a shit how they get sales though, so good on you, man. Make that cash, I guess. *shrug*

For such an intelligent guy you sure are paranoid.

iSMOKE · 01-06-2008, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass

You realize the other ones are illegal right?

iSMOKE · 01-06-2008, 08:01 AM

Spam is gr8. Nothing like going from $0/wk to $400/wk in 2 weeks or so. Conversions looking like 1:25...Spending 20mins of my day then coming back with $100+. All the bills paid without ever having to clock in or listen to anyone...damn those were the good old days

StarkReality · 01-06-2008, 08:16 AM

There is a very thin line between compilant or non-compilant mailing, especially if people don't collect these mails themselves. Often mailers have to cross the line partially, since spam filters often don't care if a mailing is legit or not, etc.

There is a reason why it is so damn profitable: Even if you try to abide by the law, it's still risky business.

TheDoc · 01-06-2008, 08:26 AM

A mailer that can send 100 sales a day isn't a big webmaster. The sales won't stay, the complaints are high, the trail to converts are the worst in the business.

I figured programs supported them because it was so easy to become a mailer rather than a Webmaster with real skill. So a program could easily get 5 mailers doing 100 sales a day - but they only had 1 whale doing 500 sales a day.

Greed is the drive I guess..

Juicy D. Links · 01-06-2008, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

the trail to converts are the worst in the business.

- the "mailer" sucks
- his "data" sucks
- look above

The Duck · 01-06-2008, 08:56 AM

I know this firsthand.

Peter Romero · 01-06-2008, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Relish XXX

I send out email newslertters to expired members and current members. We also gather in email addresses from pages like www.vickiepowell.com and a varietey of other sources.

What's the best e-mail program to do that?

DirtyProfits · 01-06-2008, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

So is Holland.

It is? .

Dagwolf · 01-06-2008, 09:19 AM

Spam pays... never did it myself though

psili · 01-06-2008, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

For such an intelligent guy you sure are paranoid.

Apologies man... I just hate unsolicited mail / email. If you're just sending "newsletters" to emails collected in a legit fashion, good for you. You must be one of the few not abusing a mailing list.

stev0 · 01-06-2008, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by slapass

You realize the other ones are illegal right? Where as mailing is not. Small distinctions are important.

All of the spam I get is illegal, if it were can spam compliant my filter would stop it long before it hits me.

Spammers could all fuck off and die for all I care, it's a pathetic way to make a living.

Phil · 01-06-2008, 03:06 PM

is there spammer start up kit for sale???

V_RocKs · 01-07-2008, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by psili

Apologies man... I just hate unsolicited mail / email. If you're just sending "newsletters" to emails collected in a legit fashion, good for you. You must be one of the few not abusing a mailing list.

I like your site. And the attention to programming.

psili · 01-07-2008, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

I like your site. And the attention to programming.

hahaha... I'm not sure which site you're referring to, but i suck at updating anything of my own which is pretty evident. there's only so many hours in the day *shrug* Somehow my http://v-rocks.confesstojesus.com gets hits, though I have no clue how.

anyway man. again, if you send legit emails and make some cash, more power to you. i just have issues with "spammers", so for my asshole posts in this thread, i apologize if you don't fit the bill, though I suspect others might

pocketkangaroo · 01-07-2008, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6

I have been collecting emails the same way but I am wondering what are good sponsors to use? It seems most sponsors don't allow email promo of any kind, even if it is double opt in like the addresses I have.

That's just a line they put on their website to save their ass down the line. Fact is, if you can send sales, there are very few people who will give a shit where it comes from.

chipmunk · 01-10-2008, 08:25 AM

The reality is...

There are CAN-SPAM compliant mailers and then are spammers. The two are very very different. In the mainstream, compliant mailing is considered very normal and very profitable. This is one reason list management and companies that handle list management have been increasing in recent years.

Mail has gotten such a bad rap on the adult side (as it should), as the majority of ?mailers? are really ?spammers?.

-=Chipmunk=-

CDSmith · 01-10-2008, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by chipmunk

Mail has gotten such a bad rap on the adult side (as it should), as the majority of ?mailers? are really ?spammers?.

-=Chipmunk=-

Yeah, a few of them must have been hurting for grocery money over Christmas and New Year's because the penis pill spam trippled over those weeks.

Good thing I have an unspammable inbox. :D

Agent 488 · 03-23-2010, 01:13 PM

why bumping this shit fuckface?

V_RocKs · 03-23-2010, 01:22 PM

Still mailing...

mikeyddddd · 03-23-2010, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

why bumping this shit fuckface?

Robbie · 03-23-2010, 02:04 PM

LOL! I was reading this thread and thinking: "My God! I can't believe people are still making money with spam!" Then after reading halfway through I realized it's a 5 year old thread!

pradaboy · 03-23-2010, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

LOL! I was reading this thread and thinking: "My God! I can't believe people are still making money with spam!" Then after reading halfway through I realized it's a 5 year old thread!

Considering the amount of Viagra and Percocet spam in my junk folder I think people are still making money.

billywatson · 03-23-2010, 04:16 PM

I can't believe how "dumb" my yahoo mailbox is...and how "smart" my g-mail box is.

rowan · 03-23-2010, 04:49 PM

Interesting to see some industry stalwarts freely talking about spamming... must look up more old threads

Farang · 03-23-2010, 06:13 PM

Stop confusing me with expired info, gfy people, thanks

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 03-23-2010, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

LOL! I was reading this thread and thinking: "My God! I can't believe people are still making money with spam!" Then after reading halfway through I realized it's a 5 year old thread!

Regardless of thread age, you're still surprised? The people who have the power and money to invest in serious spam will still be banking huge 10 years from now. Spam ain't going nowhere...

Argos88 · 03-23-2010, 06:27 PM

hmmmmm why bump a 5 years old thread ?

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Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 03-23-2010, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Argos88

hmmmmm why bump a 5 years old thread ?

.

I'm assuming it has some connection to the GFY Educational Series post on mailing...

05-11-2005, 12:33 AM	#101
woj <&(©¿©)&> Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 47,882	100 mailers.. __________________ Custom Software Development, email: woj#at#wojfun#.#com to discuss details or skype: wojl2000 or gchat: wojfun or telegram: wojl2000 Affiliate program tools: Hosted Galleries Manager Banner Manager Video Manager Wordpress Affiliate Plugin Pic/Movie of the Day Fansign Generator Zip Manager Last edited by woj; 05-11-2005 at 12:35 AM..

03-27-2007, 09:38 AM	#104
Phoenix BACON BACON BACON Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Poems everybody, the laddie fancies himself a poet Posts: 35,457	old thread to bump money in mailings...who would have guessed ;) __________________ Skype Phoenixskype1 Telegram PhoenixBrad https://quantads.io

01-06-2008, 08:01 AM	#118
iSMOKE Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,028	Spam is gr8. Nothing like going from $0/wk to $400/wk in 2 weeks or so. Conversions looking like 1:25...Spending 20mins of my day then coming back with $100+. All the bills paid without ever having to clock in or listen to anyone...damn those were the good old days __________________

01-06-2008, 08:26 AM	#120
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	A mailer that can send 100 sales a day isn't a big webmaster. The sales won't stay, the complaints are high, the trail to converts are the worst in the business. I figured programs supported them because it was so easy to become a mailer rather than a Webmaster with real skill. So a program could easily get 5 mailers doing 100 sales a day - but they only had 1 whale doing 500 sales a day. Greed is the drive I guess.. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

01-06-2008, 08:56 AM	#122
The Duck Adult Content Provider Industry Role: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Europe Posts: 18,243	I know this firsthand. __________________ Skype Horusmaia ICQ 41555245 Email [email protected]

03-27-2007, 09:34 AM	#103
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,391	I am high right now.

01-05-2008, 12:29 PM	#105
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,627	three years later and i wonder if any of this is still true???

01-05-2008, 01:43 PM	#106
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,391	Funny.. I just started getting into mailers lately and it all seems true. Opt-in lists are "fun"...

01-05-2008, 02:07 PM	#108
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,391	I don't use proxies... I just collect peoples email on my sites and then email them shit like reviews and blog posts. All legit. Free and easy money.

01-05-2008, 07:29 PM	#111
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,391	Yeah... They all say that... And I just pretend I never read that... ;)

01-05-2008, 08:31 PM	#113
Xrated J Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Daytona Beach Posts: 4,347	this thread has been a fun read

01-05-2008, 11:12 PM	#115
minusonebit So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: [email protected] Posts: 7,391	Here is a good place for spammers:

01-06-2008, 08:16 AM	#119
StarkReality Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: 4 8 15 16 23 42 Posts: 4,444	There is a very thin line between compilant or non-compilant mailing, especially if people don't collect these mails themselves. Often mailers have to cross the line partially, since spam filters often don't care if a mailing is legit or not, etc. There is a reason why it is so damn profitable: Even if you try to abide by the law, it's still risky business.

01-06-2008, 09:19 AM	#125
Dagwolf President of Canada Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Leaving Hell, Entering Limbo Posts: 23,141	Spam pays... never did it myself though __________________ Sleep well, and dream of large women.

01-06-2008, 03:06 PM	#128
Phil Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,659	is there spammer start up kit for sale??? __________________ Ask Phil

01-10-2008, 08:25 AM	#132
chipmunk Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: South Florida Posts: 1,039	The reality is... There are CAN-SPAM compliant mailers and then are spammers. The two are very very different. In the mainstream, compliant mailing is considered very normal and very profitable. This is one reason list management and companies that handle list management have been increasing in recent years. Mail has gotten such a bad rap on the adult side (as it should), as the majority of ?mailers? are really ?spammers?. -=Chipmunk=- __________________ Matthew "Chipmunk" Sclier Skype: ChipmunkLF AvenueLink.com Personal Loan Offers & Data Management

03-23-2010, 01:13 PM	#134
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	why bumping this shit fuckface?

03-23-2010, 01:22 PM	#135
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,391	Still mailing...

03-23-2010, 02:04 PM	#137
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,958	LOL! I was reading this thread and thinking: "My God! I can't believe people are still making money with spam!" Then after reading halfway through I realized it's a 5 year old thread! __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

03-23-2010, 04:16 PM	#139
billywatson Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The Valley o' Smut. Posts: 3,279	I can't believe how "dumb" my yahoo mailbox is...and how "smart" my g-mail box is. __________________ We're Fabulous! PROTECT YOUR CONTENT on Twitter I Shoot Porn.

03-23-2010, 04:49 PM	#140
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	Interesting to see some industry stalwarts freely talking about spamming... must look up more old threads

03-23-2010, 06:13 PM	#141
Farang one sick puppy Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Where the worst of the West meets the worst of the East Posts: 11,484	Stop confusing me with expired info, gfy people, thanks

03-23-2010, 06:27 PM	#143
Argos88 So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,732	hmmmmm why bump a 5 years old thread ? . Last edited by Argos88; 03-23-2010 at 06:28 PM..