So basically TGP's/MGP's are finished? - GoFuckYourself.com

StickyGreen · 05-17-2005, 07:25 PM

how the fuck are you supposed to get a 2257 record for every little damn thumbnail you have on your site if you have like 10,000???

kenny · 05-17-2005, 07:26 PM

softcore thumbs or text only TGPs I guess

Pete-KT · 05-17-2005, 07:27 PM

Well thats stupid because if they click the thumb it takes them to the site that has all the 2257's so it should be acceptable

mardigras · 05-17-2005, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete-KT

Well thats stupid because if they click the thumb it takes them to the site that has all the 2257's so it should be acceptable

I think you are only responsible for the thumbs you host.

Pete-KT · 05-17-2005, 07:30 PM

Well thats stupid then i guess someone needs to make a HUGE list of all 2257's and all the TGp's can share it

pornguy · 05-17-2005, 07:31 PM

Softcore needs 2257 as well, unless the girl is not nude at all.

bringer · 05-17-2005, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete-KT

Well thats stupid then i guess someone needs to make a HUGE list of all 2257's and all the TGp's can share it

i think teen kelly will have a lot of fans parked outside her house

Snake Doctor · 05-17-2005, 07:32 PM

You're right its all over. Get out while you can, sell me your sites for fire sale prices and move on.

Spunky · 05-17-2005, 07:36 PM

The sky is falling

keyboard warrior · 05-17-2005, 07:37 PM

time to get out now while you still can.

Pete-KT · 05-17-2005, 07:38 PM

Yup tim eto sell everything dirt cheap contact me i will buy in bulk

Sosa · 05-17-2005, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by keyboard warrior

time to get out now while you still can.

yep, everyone just quit now please. Let us others make more money

crockett · 05-17-2005, 07:39 PM

not only is the sky falling but if Arnold has his way the moon will be falling soon as well.. better run while you have the chance.

MuleScrote · 05-17-2005, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bringer

i think teen kelly will have a lot of fans parked outside her house

I'll head to *******s house...the line should be much shorter

GatorB · 05-17-2005, 07:40 PM

I don't think the hun is worried. I would like to listen to the call to Holand when he asks them to extridite the hun for violating 2257 regs. I don't think Mr Gonzales will like to hear all that laughter from the Dutch authorities.

BRISK · 05-17-2005, 07:41 PM

Last time I checked, most of the big TGPs weren't owned by Americans. So why would an American law would end TGPs?

GTS Mark · 05-17-2005, 07:43 PM

;)

DH

mardigras · 05-17-2005, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by spunky

The sky is falling

No, the sky fell with congress several hours ago

DavieVegas · 05-17-2005, 07:50 PM

from what i understand if "the sky is falling", then thumb tgps/mgps are affected only

Shoehorn! · 05-17-2005, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MuleScrote

I'll head to *******s house...the line should be much shorter

Tempest · 05-17-2005, 07:52 PM

McDonalds is going to have an influx of applications tomorrow...

mardigras · 05-17-2005, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DavieVegas

from what i understand if "the sky is falling", then thumb tgps/mgps are affected only

So more sponsors need hosted thumbs

Spunky · 05-17-2005, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mardigras

No, the sky fell with congress several hours ago

Well to be honest I live in Canada..so I'll wait until they come over the border after my ass

Veterans Day · 05-17-2005, 07:55 PM

god this place is filled with an abundance of idiocy

mardigras · 05-17-2005, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by spunky

Well to be honest I live in Canada..so I'll wait until they come over the border after my ass

Nice to flock with birds of a feather, please allow me a 6'2''X3' wide spot in your unused rubbish should TPTB decide I should be dispoed of there

mardigras · 05-17-2005, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Veterans Day

god this place is filled with an abundance of idiocy

Your lack of elaboration speaks volumes

JD · 05-17-2005, 08:09 PM

your posting privilages have been revoked. Please return to your burger flipping.

Move along people. Nothing to see here. Let's go....Keep moving. DON'T MAKE ME TASER YOUR ASS! MOVE IT!

goBigtime · 05-17-2005, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete-KT

Well thats stupid then i guess someone needs to make a HUGE list of all 2257's and all the TGp's can share it

.... umm.

Why is it that we are at this stage in the game with this 2257 shit and so many of you still have ZERO clue as to what is actually happening and what will be required?

studio · 05-17-2005, 08:18 PM

2257 records can not be shared sorry... You need to have them onsite at the locations where the content is created... content ie: Website, book, video, ect

studio · 05-17-2005, 08:20 PM

By just not hosting the image will not cut it... if it is seen on your site... you'll need the records if no changes were made before it was signed. We'll have to wait and see! And then there will be a court battle...

SmokeyTheBear · 05-17-2005, 08:26 PM

SmokeyTheBear · 05-17-2005, 08:29 PM

uno · 05-17-2005, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

not only is the sky falling but if Arnold has his way the moon will be falling soon as well.. better run while you have the chance.

He didn't really say that.

Donny · 05-17-2005, 08:39 PM

God, I'd love to see a drastic reduction in TGPs. Bring back free sites.

Donny · 05-17-2005, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DonovanPhillips

God, I'd love to see a drastic reduction in TGPs. Bring back free sites.

Let me clarify this statement: A lot of podunk shitty TGPs should/would be gone. The bigger ones could stay around. They could afford to move operations out of the US if they're not already out of the US. Partner accounts would be modified to provide 2257 info.

I'm already working on some upcoming free sites. I'd like to see a resurgence of free site popularity.

Perhaps there will be a bit more professionalism in this industry again.

One can only hope.

Kingfish · 05-17-2005, 09:06 PM

The New Regulations would make Thumb TGPs a lot more difficult as you would have to have a physical 2257 records for each Thumbnail that had sexually explicit activity on it and if the thumb was created from a picture that had sexually explicit activity on it (if you want to be as safe as you can be). If I owned a TGP, and these new rules stand I would simply go back the old style text link TGP. Of course even with a text style TGP you would have to make sure that none of the banners or images you used on the TGP design contained sexually explicit depictions. If you make your own galleries for your TGP you would have to actual 2257 records for those galleries, but if you used hosted galleries and submitted galleries you would not need to worry about 2257 as the images wouldn?t be on your site.

As far as TGPs go the new regulations actually hurt the submitter a hell of a lot more than the TGP owner. I can?t see to many gallery builders keeping physical 2257 records with the indexing requirements the purposed regulations call for as well as the hours they have to keep the records available. Also sponsors also won?t want to furnish content or sexually explicit banners because all it takes is one boob of an affiliate not to keep the records that they provide in good order, to get them in hot water. Under the proposed regulations the program owner could be charged on a conspiracy basis, if the affiliate failed to maintain the 2257 records the sponsor provided with the content. This is also why there is no escape if you are overseas and want to promote US sponsors. If you are a U.S. based program, and your non-U.S. affiliates take the sexually explicit content you provide and don?t keep 2257 records you could be charged as a partner in the conspiracy and they would never have to go after the non-us. affiliate.

Donny · 05-17-2005, 09:08 PM

Submitters are going away anyway. Drinking Hard is on to something there. Soon each sponsor worth a shit will buy paid partner accounts and hire someone to submit for them.

Paul Markham · 05-17-2005, 10:15 PM

The rules just changed, they were always wrong in the first place.

We publish porn and therefore need to be responsible and ethical. Previously we could put up content and say, "This guy in Russia has the documents to prove she's over 18." That was fucked up and it's been changed. You publish porn you have the documents to prove it's legal or close the door as you leave.

Personally I think some of the record keeping requirements are draconian and unenforceable *spelling mistake* but they were put through and we now have to comply.

Will it cost s inge Internet porn surfer spending his money? I doubt it, in fact it could get rid of a lot of free stuff.

xxxice · 05-17-2005, 10:17 PM

All text on my sites

Pornwolf · 05-17-2005, 10:38 PM

I don't see TGP's and MGP's going anywhere.

05-17-2005, 07:25 PM	#1
StickyGreen . Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 13,076	So basically TGP's/MGP's are finished? how the fuck are you supposed to get a 2257 record for every little damn thumbnail you have on your site if you have like 10,000??? __________________ Refer Cam Girls and Take Home 10% of Everything They Make For Life

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kenny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,245	softcore thumbs or text only TGPs I guess __________________ 7

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05-17-2005, 07:27 PM	#3
Pete-KT Workin With The Devil Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Bloomfield, MI Posts: 51,532	Well thats stupid because if they click the thumb it takes them to the site that has all the 2257's so it should be acceptable

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Pete-KT Workin With The Devil Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Bloomfield, MI Posts: 51,532	Well thats stupid then i guess someone needs to make a HUGE list of all 2257's and all the TGp's can share it

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Pete-KT Workin With The Devil Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Bloomfield, MI Posts: 51,532	Yup tim eto sell everything dirt cheap contact me i will buy in bulk

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05-17-2005, 07:40 PM	#15
GatorB The Demon & 12clicks Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: SallyRand is a FAGGOT Posts: 18,208	I don't think the hun is worried. I would like to listen to the call to Holand when he asks them to extridite the hun for violating 2257 regs. I don't think Mr Gonzales will like to hear all that laughter from the Dutch authorities.

05-17-2005, 07:41 PM	#16
BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	Last time I checked, most of the big TGPs weren't owned by Americans. So why would an American law would end TGPs? __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	;) DH

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Tempest Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Location: West Coast, Canada. Posts: 10,217	McDonalds is going to have an influx of applications tomorrow...

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05-17-2005, 08:18 PM	#29
studio Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Oshkosh, WI ICQ #251860879 Posts: 1,095	2257 records can not be shared sorry... You need to have them onsite at the locations where the content is created... content ie: Website, book, video, ect __________________

05-17-2005, 08:20 PM	#30
studio Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Oshkosh, WI ICQ #251860879 Posts: 1,095	By just not hosting the image will not cut it... if it is seen on your site... you'll need the records if no changes were made before it was signed. We'll have to wait and see! And then there will be a court battle... __________________

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05-17-2005, 08:39 PM	#34
Donny As you wish... Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 13,754	God, I'd love to see a drastic reduction in TGPs. Bring back free sites.

05-17-2005, 09:06 PM	#36
Kingfish Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 668	The New Regulations would make Thumb TGPs a lot more difficult as you would have to have a physical 2257 records for each Thumbnail that had sexually explicit activity on it and if the thumb was created from a picture that had sexually explicit activity on it (if you want to be as safe as you can be). If I owned a TGP, and these new rules stand I would simply go back the old style text link TGP. Of course even with a text style TGP you would have to make sure that none of the banners or images you used on the TGP design contained sexually explicit depictions. If you make your own galleries for your TGP you would have to actual 2257 records for those galleries, but if you used hosted galleries and submitted galleries you would not need to worry about 2257 as the images wouldn?t be on your site. As far as TGPs go the new regulations actually hurt the submitter a hell of a lot more than the TGP owner. I can?t see to many gallery builders keeping physical 2257 records with the indexing requirements the purposed regulations call for as well as the hours they have to keep the records available. Also sponsors also won?t want to furnish content or sexually explicit banners because all it takes is one boob of an affiliate not to keep the records that they provide in good order, to get them in hot water. Under the proposed regulations the program owner could be charged on a conspiracy basis, if the affiliate failed to maintain the 2257 records the sponsor provided with the content. This is also why there is no escape if you are overseas and want to promote US sponsors. If you are a U.S. based program, and your non-U.S. affiliates take the sexually explicit content you provide and don?t keep 2257 records you could be charged as a partner in the conspiracy and they would never have to go after the non-us. affiliate.

05-17-2005, 09:08 PM	#37
Donny As you wish... Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 13,754	Submitters are going away anyway. Drinking Hard is on to something there. Soon each sponsor worth a shit will buy paid partner accounts and hire someone to submit for them.

05-17-2005, 10:15 PM	#38
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	The rules just changed, they were always wrong in the first place. We publish porn and therefore need to be responsible and ethical. Previously we could put up content and say, "This guy in Russia has the documents to prove she's over 18." That was fucked up and it's been changed. You publish porn you have the documents to prove it's legal or close the door as you leave. Personally I think some of the record keeping requirements are draconian and unenforceable spelling mistake but they were put through and we now have to comply. Will it cost s inge Internet porn surfer spending his money? I doubt it, in fact it could get rid of a lot of free stuff. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

05-17-2005, 10:17 PM	#39
xxxice Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,042	All text on my sites

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Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	I don't see TGP's and MGP's going anywhere. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.