PenisFace

I'd have knocked the shit out of that little cocksucker too. Oh well, he'll be doing crack and working at McDonalds for the rest of his life in no time

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wallst

its funny to hear those kids scream like bitches. you can tell theres some really good parenting going on at home.

Fukeneh

regular beatings at school would help keep kids in line.

Noir

Totally. If I was that bus driver, I'd have shoved my fist down those little podunk middle american kids throat, and ejaculated as I watched him die.

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C_U_Next_Tuesday

they did when I was a kid.


I blame this all on "time outs" and not enough real discipline..

I would kick my kids ass first..then I would kick the busdrivers balls in for touching my kid.

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C_U_Next_Tuesday

and are you a parent?..did you act up when your parents were not in sight?..I know I sure as fuck did.

Major (Tom)

one of those kids was ready to scrap. Thats balls. Thumbs up to him.

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Noir

I could say the same for you.

A: Kids being asshats
B: Authority taking charge
C: Kids still being asshats

Your D: "oh teh parents! Teh video gamez!!!"

My D: "Kid needs to be fed through a meat grinder, and fed to other students he harasses

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Spunky

Next time throw a cover over the camera and lay the smack on those punks

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C_U_Next_Tuesday

yeah..he threw a punch in the back of the bus..ballsy little fuck.. if all those kids had balls.. that old guy would have been kicked down to the ground in no time.

clickhappy

Totally. If my father found out I called a school teacher or bus driver a "Motherfucker", he would have taken his belt and not stopped until I was black and blue.

Danny Dukes

As a parent you always let the parent handle the situation. If that bus driver had told me what happend with my child nad how he acted my son would have got a first class ass whippin in front of those other kids! He wouldnt be able to sit for a week! You don't talk to grown up like that and you dont touch others people kids like that! Kids will be kids and you have to remember that there kids, they act different in certain company. My Son acts totally different towards his mother (were divorced) than he does with me and she knows it. Kids are smart and know what they can get away with other people. I don't even let my own family members spank or hit my boy, thats my job I'm his father and he will suffer the concequences through me or his mother, PERIOD!

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Noir

Yes! Teh spankies solves all problems!

*bows*

*sigh*

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Skripter

The busdriver started to handle it properly. He called the police and sat there.

Thats how it should of went down.

Regardless of what pricks those kids were, it was not his place to attack them. If the cops would of come and taken them to jail, their parents would of kicked their asses. Instead, their parents are probably praising and defending them. My two cents at least.

Danny Dukes

Damn right it does! My Son is respectful and well mannered, and I'll tell you what, it wasn't from me sending him to his room for time out or taking his playstation, XBox, or dirtbike from him, it was from me spanking his ass, letting him cry it out, me explaining why he deserved the spanking, and ends with me kissing him on the forehead giving him a hug and telling him, "now go ride your motorcycle and have fun" with "I love you" before he walks out the door!

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broke

Seems more like you have a talent for being a dope.

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Noir

Good parenting helps a lot, so good for you.

You still said it though, once he isn't around you, for all you know he is an asshat.

No big deal, untill some other kid gets sick of it and brings a gun to school, and rids the world of a problem, or, what he sees as a problem.

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Danny Dukes

The fact of the matter is that all kids act like asshats. Its the degree of asshat-ism that is the question. Some kids are better then others and you can tell when you meet the parents at school gatherings. Are you kidding me, the parents used to look at me like some low life gang banger with a bald head and tattoos. But who was the one there for events for the children when they needed parent assistant, cupcakes, jog-a-thon, chapperone, ive done it all the gangbanger...thats right, Adrians dad is always there he's a good kid, theses people had no idea, the upper class kids with a 2 parent up bringing were the little bad ass kids that didnt listen, and parents never showed up for shit! These people just thought that my son was spoiled and his parents have cash, Im not rich, I do good, and I take care of my boy and he sees it and acts appropriatley and he is kindly rewarded for it! My richness comes from seeing him act like a gentleman and it takes work!

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pornguy

Not only is that fucked up, but that guy will be doing some time.

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Noir

Cool, it seems like you do take things seriously, and I don?t doubt you are a good parent.

Still though, don't make the mistake everyone else seems to. Treating kids like kids. They aren't kids.

They are young adults, with their own personalities, and opinions. They are people, so treat them like people.

It?s funny how everyone likes to scapegoat the parents when ?kids? do something ?wrong?.

No, sorry. While I can agree it?s the parenting to some extent?. Say if a kid was tied up and raped his entire life in a basement, and then does similar once he is living on his own?. Well, who wouldn?t expect that kid to be fucked up.

On the other hand, if your kid goes through a lot of abuse in school, then suddenly shoots as many people as he can, that has absolutely nothing to do with good or bad, ?parenting?

It has 100% to do with that 'kids' personal life?s experience. Now, while it?s a stupid thing to do, kids are immature, and don?t look forward too far, nor do they have life experience to help guide them.

When will people wake up? Oh wait, never.

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Nightwind

That's the kind of little shits you get when you bring them up without any discipline. The type that call their mothers bitches and whores to their face when they don't get what they want, because their mom's are too afraid/nice to lay the smackdown. The busdriver shouldn't have done that, but i can understand him snapping especially since he was probably brought up to respect his elders and he expects the same in return.

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Read my posts asshat

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flashfire

what a dick that guy is

Nightwind

How about you stick your posts where the sun doesn't shine, i don't really give a crap about what you think.

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Noir

Case in point why I own guns.

Thanks for helping prove my point. :D

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Drake

Everybody is acting like the bus driver beat the kid. He didn't. He restrained and slapped the kid once. He didn't kick, punch, choke, throw him or do anything that would cause any injury. The kid wasn't hurt nor afraid.

The charges in the case seem to indicate that law enforcement sympathizes with the bus driver and that the kids need to be punished further. Clearly the kids aren't being disciplined at home. Nobody but their parents can discipline them (as many in this thread have agreed) and they're not doing that. The bus driver's reaction is a reaction that many normal men would have in that situation. It was one of complete frustration at a group of kids that wouldn't sit in their seats and thought it ok to degrade him with foul language.

If the kids aren't punished they'll think they can repeat that behavior. A kid like that 'having balls' to mouth off a bus driver is the same kind of kid that eventually won't listen to police or obey the law. I would venture to say that these kids have probably been in trouble before...with the law or other adults or kids.

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Drake

Everything you mentioned has a lot to do with parenting. Those kids that go shooting up schools usually have parents that don't have a clue what they're kids are doing. They don't check their kids to see if they're doing drugs and they don't notice that cache of guns under their kids bed.

Kids are kids... and need to be treated in a way that will make them grow into healthy young adults.

Kids that are raped growing up rarely do the same thing to others. They are however, often traumatized or 'fucked up'. Oprah was raped as a child. Like most rape victims she turned out fine. But again, if they're being tied up and raped by their parents that's a parenting issue. Parents raping their kids will likely produce screwed up kids. That has everything to do with parenting. Bad parenting.

Danny Dukes

Oprahs not fucked up in the head? That bitch has issues

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Rorschach

would have been more entertaining if he'd buggered the kid senseless while his friends watched helplessly.

mardigras

LOL, I'm halfway through this thread and NBC (Today) starts playing the video

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Major issues, lol

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Skripter

Little update, according to CNN the charges were made BEFORE seeing that tape. When they decided to charge the boys with assault and the bus driver with a misdemeanor all they had was his word against theirs.

Now that the video has been released they are "rethinking the judgement".

Fred Quimby

tell that little nerd to get out of the cams way.

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Pick the kids up. Drop the kids off. Driving a school bus sounds easy, right?

Wrong, said Beverly Schools' Transportation Director, Bill Burke.

Bus drivers have to go through a two-month training course and a rigorous license test before taking the wheel of one of the big yellow buses, said Burke.

Once they have their licenses, they are still subjected to extensive yearly physicals and random drug tests. If drivers miss a drug test, they're immediately disqualified from driving.

And, said Burke, it takes a special kind of person to be equal parts machinery operator, safety official and babysitter all rolled into one.

The men and women who drive Beverly's buses do the job for all kinds of reasons, said Burke. Some of them are retirees who are looking for a part-time job. Others are parents who have children in the school system, or who stayed on as drivers after their children grew up.

Many have been driving for years' like Beverly Browning, who after more than 24 years as a bus driver makes exactly the same wage as this year's newest recruit, John Ostrander. Carl Strout is somewhere in the middle.

"Carl's a rookie. He's only been here about 10 years," said Burke.

Good bus drivers are hard to find, said Burke, especially since Beverly's salary hovers around $13, a dollar or two less than surrounding communities pay. Bus monitors, who make $8.20 an hour, are even harder to find.

Although some retirees, like Strout, have their own health insurance, the positions would be nearly impossible to fill if it did not come with a benefits package, said Burke.

"If they ever did that we would lose half our staff," he laughed. "You would not believe how hard it is to get people. These guys and girls do a heck of a job."
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Obviously the driver should not have assaulted the kid, but given the pressure of this job, kids bad behaviour and the low pay, are we suprised? \

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Lives are at stake on the school bus

By BOB ARNDORFER

Sun Staff Writer


May 22. 2005 6:01AM

In the yellow room on wheels - the school bus - bad behavior can be more than distracting. It can be dangerous.

"I'd say 90 percent of accidents involving school buses are because the driver has been distracted," said Jimmy Young, a bus driver and trainer with the Alachua County school district.

"If a teacher has a bad day in the classroom, no one dies," said Young, 52, one of about 185 drivers on 165 routes in the school system. "If I have a bad day, I've got the safety of 78 kids I'm responsible for. Driving the bus comes first. You don't try to drive and handle the situation at the same time."

During the 2003-2004 school year, the handling of "situations" by school administrators resulted in 1,017 bus suspensions. Losing bus privileges could range from a few days to weeks or months, depending on the severity of the offense, said David Deas, transportation manager for Alachua County schools.

"We've had students kicked off the bus for a year," he said.

That could happen, Deas said, in cases in which a student has been suspended from a bus multiple times and continues to be written up for causing trouble on the bus.

He said some of the more common infractions that could cause bus suspension include fighting, failure to remain seated and throwing things out the windows. There even have been cases in which students have opened the rear door of the bus and jumped out, he said.

Young, who drives elementary, middle and high school routes, said he's heard of bus drivers being spat upon, cussed out and hit on the head with flashlight batteries. Drivers tend to agree that middle-school students are the worst offenders, he said.

"Some of these drivers take some real abuse," Young said. "That's why we lose some drivers. They say it just isn't worth it."

On his first day on the job six years ago, he said, he hadn't driven out of the school traffic circle before some of the riders on the bus started talking trash to him.

"They were saying things like, 'Yo, dog, turn the radio on,'" said Young, who served in the U.S. Marines for 13 years. "I stopped the bus, got up and said I'm not 'yo dog.' I'm Mr. Young, or Mr. Jimmy, and my job is to get you to school and home safely and on time. Your job is to obey the rules."

Setting the ground rules early on has made his job easier, Young said. In six years, he said, he has written referrals only six times - including once for inappropriate touching and another when an elementary student punched another child.

A bus driver writes up an offending student, but the discipline is handled through deans at the individual schools. Deas said for minor offenses, such as chewing gum, a student might get referred three or four times before being suspended from the bus. Suspension would follow other efforts to deal with the problem, he said, such as a conference with the student and parents.

Young said that when he trains new drivers, he advises them not to overuse the referral process. Gaining the students' respect from the start will go further in yielding cooperation, he said.

"Write-ups should be the last resort," he said. "When they suspend these kids off the bus, it's more punishment on the parents because then they have to find a way to get their kids to school."

He said he prefers to work with students and their parents.

"Instead of writing their kid up, I say I'll give you a courtesy call and see if you could handle this at home," he said. "And one thing kids need to understand is that you're not out of school while you're still on the bus."

Deas agreed, saying the bus is "an extension of the school. The same rules apply."

Because of potentially deadly consequences for bus misbehavior, zero tolerance should be a district policy, said Tina Pinkoson, chairwoman of the Alachua County School Board.

"There are lives at stake," said Pinkoson, who has described driving a bus as one of the most difficult jobs in the schools. "And you can't sit them in time out on the bus."

Bob Arndorfer can be reached at (352) 374-5042 or [email protected].

DomBuyer

They were saying things like, 'Yo, dog, turn the radio on,'" said Young, who served in the U.S. Marines for 13 years.

polish_aristocrat

i havent seen anything terribly wrong there

he probably had a reason to beat one of the kids

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Driver Out of Work After Kids Let Off Bus
Updated: Friday, May. 13, 2005 - 6:54 PM

UPPER MARLBORO, Md. - A school bus driver is out of work after throwing a group of little children off miles from their destination.

At least 14 kids -- ages 5-through-9 -- had left Melwood Elementary School in Upper Marlboro Thursday, and were heading for their homes and a daycare center.

They were reportedly misbehaving and saying things about the driver.

When the bus got to Cheryl and Brooklee drives -- about three miles from the school -- the driver apparently had enough, and let everyone off.

Nearby residents saw the confused children and helped them. None of the kids were hurt.

A Prince George's school spokesman says the driver later quit after meeting with officials.

DomBuyer

A Zeeland special-needs preschool student was left on a school bus for at least two hours on Wednesday. A school bus driver has since been fired and another has been suspended for three days.

Some school districts have had to deal with more than one incident like this. 24 Hour News 8 has found a few that are going with a zero tolerance policy.

Three-year-old Antonio Alonso was left alone on a Holland school bus in April 2003. And it wasn't the first time it happened that school year.

School officials had had enough, so they put the word out to drivers.

"If you don't check your bus everyday, it's ground for immediate dismissal," Holland School Assistant Superintendent Jim Sullivan told 24 Hour News 8.

Last school year, another student was left behind and the driver of that school bus was fired.

For Holland School officials, proving a driver doesn't check his or her bus is empty is simple. Each bus is equipped with a video camera that records everything that goes on in the vehicle, from the time the engine is turned on at the beginning of the day, to 15 minutes after the bus is parked at the end of the day.

Sullivan says the bus drivers are "required to get out of their seats, walk from the front to the back, checking every seat, checking under the seat, to make sure there are not students left."

The district's zero tolerance policy goes so far as to fire any driver who gets caught failing to make the check. And now, district officials randomly check the video camera tapes to make sure drivers are doing their job.

"The emphasis that we put on it has combined to make the drivers more alert?more aware. And that's been our success. Our drivers have taken this very seriously," adds Sullivan.

The Holland School District is not alone in their zero tolerance policy.

Dean Transportation - which has contracts with the intermediate school districts in Kent and Ottawa counties, and will take over bus services for the entire Grand Rapids school district next year - also fires drivers who leave kids on buses.

A Dean spokesperson says drivers are required several times a day to look not only for kids but evidence, such as backpacks and lunch boxes, that may indicate a child is still on the bus.

As for changes to policies in Zeeland, school officials have not returned calls made by 24 Hour News 8.

polish_aristocrat

Dombuyer - news stories are not like your domain threads - noone's gonna read them

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DomBuyer

It's funny, Google's got story after story on this problem. It's amazing that no one's gone postal--driver or kid.

sperbonzo

You are a complete idiot. Try this concept... "reading in context". I was refering to terrorisms affect on american culture, as referenced to the post that I was replying to.

"sheltered"? I've spent more years living outside the US than you have spent alive. Moron.

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sickkittens

That guy is screwed. In middle school, I had an old teacher choke some kid in class. The kid he choked was a trouble maker so they did nothing to the teacher.

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Pleasurepays

there is obviously much more to the story. the kid in question was charged with felony assault. the bus driver - misdemeanor assualt.