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Old 05-30-2005, 11:38 PM   #1
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SEO Needed

I have a domain that used to be number two on Google for its term (pre-florida) - now its nowhere for its term. The format of the domain is
www.word1-word2.net

It seems fucked though - any advice from anyone would be appreciated.

Send in your ICQ's etc and I will get in touch - possibly work out some kind of $$$ deal.

I dont want anyone who doesnt understand Latent Semantic Indexing or Sandboxing - as I know quite a bit - its just this fucking domain is pissing me off.

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Old 05-30-2005, 11:40 PM   #2
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Old 05-30-2005, 11:40 PM   #3
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im sure you will get a lot of takers on this hell of a deal
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Old 05-30-2005, 11:41 PM   #4
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PS: semantic? wtf, don't try to get all scientifixxx on us now...don't make me break out the algorythm werd on yaaa lol
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Old 05-30-2005, 11:42 PM   #5
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Old 05-30-2005, 11:44 PM   #6
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Deal

The $ is between me and whoever does this sort of thing professionally.

I think that is a fair comment.

I can pay the right amount for the job - no problems on that front.

Its a genuine request for help on a troublesome site of mine - thats all.
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Old 05-31-2005, 01:04 AM   #7
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It seems you know what to do, work more and results will appear.
Lately I've optimized a site or a client of mine and it took 10 weeks to get results.
Last few weeks he was bitching at me and now we're good friends :D
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Old 05-31-2005, 01:14 AM   #8
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Doin the dos.

Well Flash - to be honest Im a bit stumped on this site in particular.

No one will link to it naturally, as its porn and the only related sites that would be of any use are competitors - so links aint going to happen.

The only solultion is to give it more links from my own sites - then though theres all this "timing" shyte and how often to add new links to avoid inbound spikes on the link quantities.

But then again is that the only solution? have I done something fundamentally wrong? Where do I start? I just dont know.

I do know that YES - I understand it could take months to recover, maybe even 6 to 12.

I need help badly - and Im willing to pay the right person(s) to get it. Sometimes it seems these days that google just blantently fucks sites off for random reasons?? Dunno if thats true or not......
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Old 05-31-2005, 01:16 AM   #9
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Flash - yes - I work hard - about 60 hours per week at the moment, so I cant do much more than that without going into burn out mode.

I will "work" - definately - I dont slack at all. But I just dont know / am not sure exactly what I need to **do** in that word "work" with regards to this site.

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Old 05-31-2005, 01:18 AM   #10
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Old 05-31-2005, 01:38 AM   #11
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hahaha you dumb shit, i love it when people try to make themselves look smart

latent semantic indexing
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Old 05-31-2005, 01:39 AM   #12
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dammit man, don't make speel it out for these bishes, mistypes/typos are the new white bread ;)


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Old 05-31-2005, 01:45 AM   #13
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The only solultion is to give it more links from my own sites - then though theres all this "timing" shyte and how often to add new links to avoid inbound spikes on the link quantities.
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dont' you get tired to spamming the board with hosting baddog?
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Old 05-31-2005, 01:52 AM   #16
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Dumb Shit?

"hahaha you dumb shit, i love it when people try to make themselves look smart"

Whats all that about?
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Old 05-31-2005, 02:00 AM   #17
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how can your site be sandboxed if it was already present before florida ?
maybe a site scarper has fucked your listings up or too many links pointing from your own sitez ?
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Old 05-31-2005, 02:09 AM   #18
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marttali - I dont think its sandboxed - I just need to know the person who does the SEO is aware of that issue etc. so I know theyve been doing it a while and read up on stuff more than me.

Yeah - I think maybe too many links too fast from my own sites - and also stuck the anchor text identical too many times?

Just guessing really though - and not sure about a way forward with it.

Ive got hundreds of domains on different IP's - I think somehow I over did it somewhere with them though.

Shall I drop all the links to it and see if I should build up slowly again - nothing to lose really as its out in the styxx anyways - cant even see it anywhere. Wonder if theres a sandbox type filter that gets applied to old sites under certian circumstances? I just dont know enough to crack this one.
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Old 05-31-2005, 02:22 AM   #19
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is the whois same for the domains ? Google now sells domains you know..
its always good idea to diversify anchor text to be on the safe side.
latent indexing can also be resolved i guess - diffrent whois and c-block with special page dedicated for each link with appropriate text
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marttali - I dont think its sandboxed - I just need to know the person who does the SEO is aware of that issue etc. so I know theyve been doing it a while and read up on stuff more than me.

Yeah - I think maybe too many links too fast from my own sites - and also stuck the anchor text identical too many times?

Just guessing really though - and not sure about a way forward with it.

Ive got hundreds of domains on different IP's - I think somehow I over did it somewhere with them though.

Shall I drop all the links to it and see if I should build up slowly again - nothing to lose really as its out in the styxx anyways - cant even see it anywhere. Wonder if theres a sandbox type filter that gets applied to old sites under certian circumstances? I just dont know enough to crack this one.

If you have hundreds of sites, on different IP's, but with the same theme, interlinked and on the same host, it is most likely the host crowding penalty. That is what GotWebHost is here for. We can give you up to 33 different Class C blocks.
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is the whois same for the domains ? Google now sells domains you know..
its always good idea to diversify anchor text to be on the safe side.
latent indexing can also be resolved i guess - diffrent whois and c-block with special page dedicated for each link with appropriate text

There is no indication that they are checking whois info, I doubt that is it
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u r probably right baddog, but how long before they do ? its wise to be a step ahead
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u r probably right baddog, but how long before they do ? its wise to be a step ahead

We are . . . . multiple nameservers. Whois info would be two steps ahead
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btw mrchips theres no indication google uses latent thingie in adult queries
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Baddog - I dont think (to the best of my knowledge) that Ive interlinked the same hosts either. The servers themselves are all over the place - US, UK, CA, Australia.

Whois - hmm maybe a couple are the same there - I'll have to check its been so long since I set the network up. Maybe I didnt bother so much with that at the time.

Interlinking from on topic sites - all on topic - probably too aggressive for the filters as they are now.

Its only a PR4 aswell - which could be hurting it - having said that there is a PR3 in the top ten!!!! for the phrase.

Scrapers - yes - I have seen a few duplicate sentences and then removed or changed mine. Nothing major that I know of.

Added LSI crawled words in - made no difference to ranking (it kind of slipped constantly - like 2 then 9 then 15 then 24 and so on before getting bumped down to god knows now.
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I have a domain that used to be number two on Google for its term (pre-florida).

I did not know google relocated to florida
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Why should I? We offer something you will not find elsewhere.
What if we do, at a significant discount than your pricing structure?

Will you honor their pricing?
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We are . . . . multiple nameservers. Whois info would be two steps ahead
Good thinking
I was going to call you out on your varying C-class addresses but ... now, never mind

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What if we do, at a significant discount than your pricing structure?

Will you honor their pricing?

Sounds like a pretty big if. If you can find someone that can offer what we do at a significant discount, and allows adult, you should probably jump on it.
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When you are real desparate and willing to pay up front.contact me.So far noone has given you the right advice here.its not about different servers or ips.Yet the reason is probably simple.the solution much harder.
$250 hr first hour upfront to check the site out and probably another 2 hours for suggestions.The work to get it back tho is upto you.
I dont want to be cocky but if we get on well you will get more than your moneys worth just on tips.
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Latent Semantic Indexing ? you bought WiredGuy dictionary eh? lol
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LOL, fancy words for saying documents that have a similiar theme, analyzing documents as a whole rather than keyword per keyword.

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Now do some research on the C-Index formula, once you've mastered that your sites will be soaring ... either that or you'll be ready for a degree in advanced mathematics
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When you are real desparate and willing to pay up front.contact me.So far noone has given you the right advice here.its not about different servers or ips.Yet the reason is probably simple.the solution much harder.
$250 hr first hour upfront to check the site out and probably another 2 hours for suggestions.The work to get it back tho is upto you.
I dont want to be cocky but if we get on well you will get more than your moneys worth just on tips.
this what i would do. ^
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