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guschi2k · 06-01-2005, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by woj

50.........

yo da man

my2257 · 06-01-2005, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MrC

Great you answered about the microsoft software question but did not answer what code its wrote in, And what the fuck does something using your software on a unlicensed system have to do with you? It has nothing to do with your company you cant be at fault for them using your software on a warezed copy of 2003..

The system is written in Microsoft.NET

my2257 · 06-01-2005, 06:54 PM

Interesting
So far 27 people have filed out the request more data form and 4 have called since 5:31PM PST.

Faxing three quotes to companies right now.
Guess there really is NO interest in our product

my2257 · 06-01-2005, 06:55 PM

Getting comments like this:

Producer Ad - Web Please send us whatever pertinent information you might have regarding the 2257 changes, thanking you in advance. 6/1/2005 6:45:19 PM

latinasojourn · 06-01-2005, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MrC

umm yeah, thats realistic the government making us book keeping software, my fucking god man wtf you expect them to do hold our hands while we shoot the content too?

it is realistic. the US govt provides software on many compliance issues right now.

do a search on google:

"federal government compliance software"

my2257 · 06-01-2005, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by latinasojourn

it is realistic. the US govt provides software on many compliance issues right now.

do a search on google:

"federal government compliance software"

I'll wait for that to be released by June 23, 2005
LOL

BoyAlley · 06-01-2005, 06:58 PM

Greetings:

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Originally Posted by my2257

We will not release our software to end users in a self install version due to concerns about implementation of this product on non-licensed operating system. We do not want to potentially incure liability due to use of such unlicensed systems.

That has to be about the god damn dumbest thing I've ever read on here. And I think that's saying a lot!

Do you actually expect people to believe this? Why not just admit the truth, you're selling it with hardware so you can pad your margins even more? I know I would have respected you more if you just came out and said it, instead of trying to feed us this load of crap.

Imagine what would happen if every software vendor decided there was liability if their product was installed on a warez copy of windows. I'd have about 65 computers sitting here right now, each with 1 application sitting on it.

Stupid, stupid STUPID!

latinasojourn · 06-01-2005, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by my2257

Interesting
So far 27 people have filed out the request more data form and 4 have called since 5:31PM PST.

Faxing three quotes to companies right now.
Guess there really is NO interest in our product

yes, you might get a few sales, and no one faults a businessman for making a buck.

but remember who the client base is, and where the big numbers are.

do you want 5 sales, or 5000?

my2257 · 06-01-2005, 07:00 PM

Oh wait up to 31 request for documentation on the product.
Oh look 4 Affiliate progarms so far

Guess their not waiting for their Goverment hand out

European Lee · 06-01-2005, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by latinasojourn

yes, you might get a few sales, and no one faults a businessman for making a buck.

but remember who the client base is, and where the big numbers are.

do you want 5 sales, or 5000?

Id rather have 5 sales @ $10k than 5000 @ $300.

Just me but letting any hobbyist webmasters get their hands on this would be a logistical nightmare for their support team (if they have one).

Regards,

Lee

dready · 06-01-2005, 07:01 PM

I guess they decided to sell it to 5 people for a few thousand instead of thousands for a few hundred dollars. WTF?!?

riddler · 06-01-2005, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by my2257

The system is written in Microsoft.NET

umm what code is Microsoft.NET? there is no "Microsoft.NET" its VB isnt it?

my2257 · 06-01-2005, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by European Lee

Id rather have 5 sales @ $10k than 5000 @ $300.

Just me but letting any hobbyist webmasters get their hands on this would be a logistical nightmare for their support team (if they have one).

Regards,

Lee

Thank you.

That is our feeling as well.
1) It takes us about 4 hours to install the operating system and SQL on each box.
2) Then hours to run all the updates and service patches.
3) Once this is done we must install our software and set the license key for the server.
4) Now we have to configure the system to a producers needs or a webmasters needs.
5) We need to test the server and software before shipping
6) We have to walk the client through the use of the server

There is A LOT involved in this system. Over 2 years of development, Attorney fees, payroll to developers, testing, reading regulations, modifying database to meet regulations, ect.

Not a simple task. Our first two clients BOTH spent 4 - 5 months trying to do it in house before going with our solution.

We understand this is not for everyone. Never claimed it would be. We are interested in those clients looking for a proven technology with a company that has been in the adult internet industry for nearly 10 years.

We hope a more affordable solution is released, but till then who has a tested product?

my2257 · 06-01-2005, 07:12 PM

Up to 37 request for info

Last I looked 37 was more than 5

riddler · 06-01-2005, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by my2257

Thank you.

That is our feeling as well.
1) It takes us about 4 hours to install the operating system and SQL on each box.
2) Then hours to run all the updates and service patches.
3) Once this is done we must install our software and set the license key for the server.
4) Now we have to configure the system to a producers needs or a webmasters needs.
5) We need to test the server and software before shipping
6) We have to walk the client through the use of the server

There is A LOT involved in this system. Over 2 years of development, Attorney fees, payroll to developers, testing, reading regulations, modifying database to meet regulations, ect.

Not a simple task. Our first two clients BOTH spent 4 - 5 months trying to do it in house before going with our solution.

We understand this is not for everyone. Never claimed it would be. We are interested in those clients looking for a proven technology with a company that has been in the adult internet industry for nearly 10 years.

We hope a more affordable solution is released, but till then who has a tested product?

Seriously if you spent 2 years developing this shit then it should have a easy to install user face, Stop with the non sense bullshit of saying you need to have to sell it with the PC, all your doing is making more money by saying it takes a fucking geek to install..

riddler · 06-01-2005, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by my2257

Up to 37 request for info

Last I looked 37 was more than 5

Requests for info? Wtf does that really mean, It means trolls on gfy are probably wanting info on wtf it is since you offer no screenshots or little info about what exactly the program is complexed of

JMM · 06-01-2005, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by European Lee

Id rather have 5 sales @ $10k than 5000 @ $300.

Just me but letting any hobbyist webmasters get their hands on this would be a logistical nightmare for their support team (if they have one).

Regards,

Lee

Hmm... 5 sales @ $10k = $50,000. 5000 sales @ $300= $1.5 million

I think I will take the 5000 sales @ $300, but that is just me.

my2257 · 06-01-2005, 07:16 PM

its been written in both VB and C# -

On the advice of Legal Council we went with a turn key solution

tony286 · 06-01-2005, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MrC

Seriously if you spent 2 years developing this shit then it should have a easy to install user face, Stop with the non sense bullshit of saying you need to have to sell it with the PC, all your doing is making more money by saying it takes a fucking geek to install..

2 years the proposal for the new regs hasnt been out for two years

riddler · 06-01-2005, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

2 years the proposal for the new regs hasnt been out for two years

Yeah, I dont like slimey business tactics, If i wasnt so lazy id whip up this program in VB in a few hours and give it to all of GFY but im fucking lazy..

newbreed · 06-01-2005, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MrC

Seriously if you spent 2 years developing this shit then it should have a easy to install user face, Stop with the non sense bullshit of saying you need to have to sell it with the PC, all your doing is making more money by saying it takes a fucking geek to install..

No doubt. Any 4GL or similar RAD program could have done it in 3-4 days within knowing the posted regs.

crockett · 06-01-2005, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by my2257

Thank you.

That is our feeling as well.
1) It takes us about 4 hours to install the operating system and SQL on each box.
2) Then hours to run all the updates and service patches.
3) Once this is done we must install our software and set the license key for the server.
4) Now we have to configure the system to a producers needs or a webmasters needs.
5) We need to test the server and software before shipping
6) We have to walk the client through the use of the server

There is A LOT involved in this system. Over 2 years of development, Attorney fees, payroll to developers, testing, reading regulations, modifying database to meet regulations, ect.

Not a simple task. Our first two clients BOTH spent 4 - 5 months trying to do it in house before going with our solution.

We understand this is not for everyone. Never claimed it would be. We are interested in those clients looking for a proven technology with a company that has been in the adult internet industry for nearly 10 years.

We hope a more affordable solution is released, but till then who has a tested product?

lol 2 years developing this... shit the new regs weren't even proposed then... I guess you must of seen the future..

riddler · 06-01-2005, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by my2257

its been written in both VB and C# -

On the advice of Legal Council we went with a turn key solution

hmm, I wouldnt trust my records with a VB app running full time, Now i see why it takes a full computer with no other stuff being used on it to run this software *cough*

my2257 · 06-01-2005, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JMM

Hmm... 5 sales @ $10k = $50,000. 5000 sales @ $300= $1.5 million

I think I will take the 5000 sales @ $300, but that is just me.

Then write a $300 compliant program and sell it
Don't patent it, don't spend the money on legal counsel and take your chances.
We have no intention of denying anyone to write a completive product.

riddler · 06-01-2005, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by newbreed

No doubt. Any 4GL or similar RAD program could have done it in 3-4 days within knowing the posted regs.

Yeah i aint the best at Excel but i know its not that hard to make it up to sort and go to folders in it, Macro Scripting works wonders, I made a excel sheet with all my passwords for programs, tgps, my earnings all broke down in month and yearly and a statistic of how much its up or down.

Now if that was easy to make im damn sure making a simple 2257 database wouldnt be to hard in excel with a hint of access and macro scripting.

European Lee · 06-01-2005, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JMM

Hmm... 5 sales @ $10k = $50,000. 5000 sales @ $300= $1.5 million

I think I will take the 5000 sales @ $300, but that is just me.

Thats fine, you get to deal with all the 'support' shit each day from 5000+ people too LOL

Trust me, a higher price with a lower sales volume works, its worked for us as a company for the last 8 years

2257 stuff ISNT a long-term business, think about it, if the FSC get their injunction, nobody will be buying these solutions, the ideal time to get clients for this type of thing from a marketing viewpoint is NOW whilst webmasters are running around like beheaded chickens not knowing what they are going to do.

Chicken Little: The sky is falling
Store Owner: Buy this umbrella then
Chicken Little: Wow what a life saver

Regards,

Lee

my2257 · 06-01-2005, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

lol 2 years developing this... shit the new regs weren't even proposed then... I guess you must of seen the future..

YES - saw the writting on the wall with the 2000 elections

JMM · 06-01-2005, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by my2257

Then write a $300 compliant program and sell it
Don't patent it, don't spend the money on legal counsel and take your chances.
We have no intention of denying anyone to write a completive product.

Dude... chill out. My post was not a comment on the validity or value of your product. It was more a comment on general business economics.

riddler · 06-01-2005, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by my2257

YES - saw the writting on the wall with the 2000 elections

Umm sure you did

my2257 · 06-01-2005, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MrC

Yeah i aint the best at Excel but i know its not that hard to make it up to sort and go to folders in it, Macro Scripting works wonders, I made a excel sheet with all my passwords for programs, tgps, my earnings all broke down in month and yearly and a statistic of how much its up or down.

Now if that was easy to make im damn sure making a simple 2257 database wouldnt be to hard in excel with a hint of access and macro scripting.

So your going to scan the IDs into excel?

detoxed · 06-01-2005, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by European Lee

I was also unaware that the USPTO would grant patents that related to legal requirements that, as such, could hinder them being carried without the patent owners license.

But who knows, the USPTO has been funky as of late in the patents they grant.

You just had your first patent dispute filed too

Regards,

Lee

It wouldnt hinder anything. Its a turnkey solution and I'm sure it has some features that are great. To comply with the law you dont need the features, but they make it easier.

my2257 · 06-01-2005, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JMM

Dude... chill out. My post was not a comment on the validity or value of your product. It was more a comment on general business economics.

Jeff - Having fun with you.
You know I have nothing but respect for your input!

JMM · 06-01-2005, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by European Lee

Thats fine, you get to deal with all the 'support' shit each day from 5000+ people too LOL

Trust me, a higher price with a lower sales volume works, its worked for us as a company for the last 8 years

2257 stuff ISNT a long-term business, think about it, if the FSC get their injunction, nobody will be buying these solutions, the ideal time to get clients for this type of thing from a marketing viewpoint is NOW whilst webmasters are running around like beheaded chickens not knowing what they are going to do.

Chicken Little: The sky is falling
Store Owner: Buy this umbrella then
Chicken Little: Wow what a life saver

Regards,

Lee

That is even more of a reason for the 5000 @ $300 model. Get the money and run, and a lot more money at that. If this is not a long term issue, then my $1.5 million will go a lot farther than your $50,000.

riddler · 06-01-2005, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by my2257

So your going to scan the IDs into excel?

Ok look, Most affiliate programs or content suppliers are going to send digital format since they arent opt to send actual paper, So what do you in all honesty think is going to be alot easier for a affiliate program send digital format or take the time and mail it to the person? Now when they send it digital format put it in a folder of the models name, Go in excel and type out all the info on the paper work and take advantage of the sort features the lovely company called microsoft implemented in excel for us.

JMM · 06-01-2005, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by my2257

Jeff - Having fun with you.
You know I have nothing but respect for your input!

Yes..I know..just having fun back.

I was peeking at the product the other day and it really does look nice.

tony286 · 06-01-2005, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by my2257

YES - saw the writting on the wall with the 2000 elections

Oh stop please stop , you saw into the future and guessed what the new proposed regs would be lol

riddler · 06-01-2005, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

Oh stop please stop , you saw into the future and guessed what the new proposed regs would be lol

Tony you shoot content right? You as a content shooter you already pretty much had all your content in order like the new 2257 wants it? Just the sending to secondary producers is a big problem, Now any good content producer would already have it sorted and filed in a professional mannor as the 2257 wants it, I seriously doubt a content producer would take the papers and just throw it in a card board box and say "Yeah yeah ill find it when big brother wants em fuck it until then"

my2257 · 06-01-2005, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JMM

Yes..I know..just having fun back.

I was peeking at the product the other day and it really does look nice.

You?re the primo candidate for this.
- Been in the industry as long as I have.
- Follow EVERY rule to the letter
- EXCELENT customer server
- TONS of content and talent to manage
- LOT's of docs to manage

$3000 to organize all of that?
Really too much to pay?

TheSenator · 06-01-2005, 07:30 PM

Are you going to have a solution for webmasters? Just a stand alone software that can handle the job of secondary producers as defined by the 2257.

newbreed · 06-01-2005, 07:30 PM

MrC, hit me up on ICQ or shoot me an e-mail, I wanna chat a little.

346940591 - ICQ
bill AT newbreedmedia DOT com

riddler · 06-01-2005, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by my2257

You?re the primo candidate for this.
- Been in the industry as long as I have.
- Follow EVERY rule to the letter
- EXCELENT customer server
- TONS of content and talent to manage
- LOT's of docs to manage

$3000 to organize all of that?
Really too much to pay?

Now serious look at it from our point of view, If hes been in the industry for a long time and follows every rule to the letter then he should have this shit in place and would not need your software am i wrong?

chadglni · 06-01-2005, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MrC

Yeah i aint the best at Excel but i know its not that hard to make it up to sort and go to folders in it, Macro Scripting works wonders, I made a excel sheet with all my passwords for programs, tgps, my earnings all broke down in month and yearly and a statistic of how much its up or down.

Now if that was easy to make im damn sure making a simple 2257 database wouldnt be to hard in excel with a hint of access and macro scripting.

JMM · 06-01-2005, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MrC

Now serious look at it from our point of view, If hes been in the industry for a long time and follows every rule to the letter then he should have this shit in place and would not need your software am i wrong?

No, you are not wrong.

The my2257 software is a perfect solution for a lot of people. I am going to take a serious look at it, but for the reasons stated already, probably don't need it.

But there are a shit load of people that do.

my2257 · 06-01-2005, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator

Are you going to have a solution for webmasters? Just a stand alone software that can handle the job of secondary producers as defined by the 2257.

Yes - There are two versions

PRODUCERS - published from the point of view that you know who the talent is. All the productions they appear in and the date of production. Allows you to track the distribution and follow your images with encrypted compliance information in every image

WEBMASTERS - written from the point of view that you have content and know who produced it. Let?s you fill in what you know and generate reports for the producers and you in house staff to complete the missing information.

If producer and webmaster use my225 it's very easy to merge the info through the databases

riddler · 06-01-2005, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JMM

No, you are not wrong.

The my2257 software is a perfect solution for a lot of people. I am going to take a serious look at it, but for the reasons stated already, probably don't need it.

But there are a shit load of people that do.

So you been in this industry and dont run your shit professionally? Wtf? I mean im a fuckin webmaster and i have everything logged and booked like im about to go away to fucking cuba prison for molesting a 12 year old, Maybe im just used to running stuff professional but this reg isnt changing much for me cept i have to be a secondary producer..

tony286 · 06-01-2005, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MrC

Tony you shoot content right? You as a content shooter you already pretty much had all your content in order like the new 2257 wants it? Just the sending to secondary producers is a big problem, Now any good content producer would already have it sorted and filed in a professional mannor as the 2257 wants it, I seriously doubt a content producer would take the papers and just throw it in a card board box and say "Yeah yeah ill find it when big brother wants em fuck it until then"

WE have everything except the printing of every fucking pic so we are going to database system . We bought filemaker pro and are going to bid out a simple database. I also have a advantage 85% of the content is my wife. There is no pic they could throw at me where I wouldnt know exactly where to find it.

JMM · 06-01-2005, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MrC

So you been in this industry and dont run your shit professionally? Wtf? I mean im a fuckin webmaster and i have everything logged and booked like im about to go away to fucking cuba prison for molesting a 12 year old, Maybe im just used to running stuff professional but this reg isnt changing much for me cept i have to be a secondary producer..

Read your post and my reply again.

You said I have all my shit in place. Then you said..am I wrong? And I said..no, you are not wrong.

Just because I have all my shit in place, doesn't mean I am not going to take a look at it. There may be a better, easier way then I use now.

Decadawn · 06-01-2005, 07:41 PM

fuckin' expensive.. sorry :P

TheDoc · 06-01-2005, 07:44 PM

Not bashing your software, alot of people need help. But I know of a company that has been running 2257 software, (unix based and windows based) that kinda follows the current laws and your system since the late 90's. Huge production company.

And you don't need the video/photos attached to the software. It only needs a reference number to pull the CD or url or folder location. Ours is CD based with reference numbers attached.. Takes about 3 seconds to pull the content up. Most old school production houses have done the same thing for years, pretty simple and costs almost nothing.

woj · 06-01-2005, 07:45 PM

100.,......

06-01-2005, 07:01 PM	#61
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TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	Not bashing your software, alot of people need help. But I know of a company that has been running 2257 software, (unix based and windows based) that kinda follows the current laws and your system since the late 90's. Huge production company. And you don't need the video/photos attached to the software. It only needs a reference number to pull the CD or url or folder location. Ours is CD based with reference numbers attached.. Takes about 3 seconds to pull the content up. Most old school production houses have done the same thing for years, pretty simple and costs almost nothing. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

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woj <&(©¿©)&> Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 47,882	100.,...... __________________ Custom Software Development, email: woj#at#wojfun#.#com to discuss details or skype: wojl2000 or gchat: wojfun or telegram: wojl2000 Affiliate program tools: Hosted Galleries Manager Banner Manager Video Manager Wordpress Affiliate Plugin Pic/Movie of the Day Fansign Generator Zip Manager

06-01-2005, 06:54 PM	#53
my2257 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 110	Interesting So far 27 people have filed out the request more data form and 4 have called since 5:31PM PST. Faxing three quotes to companies right now. Guess there really is NO interest in our product

06-01-2005, 06:55 PM	#54
my2257 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 110	Getting comments like this: Producer Ad - Web Please send us whatever pertinent information you might have regarding the 2257 changes, thanking you in advance. 6/1/2005 6:45:19 PM

06-01-2005, 07:00 PM	#59
my2257 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 110	Oh wait up to 31 request for documentation on the product. Oh look 4 Affiliate progarms so far Guess their not waiting for their Goverment hand out

06-01-2005, 07:12 PM	#64
my2257 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 110	Up to 37 request for info Last I looked 37 was more than 5

06-01-2005, 07:16 PM	#68
my2257 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 110	its been written in both VB and C# - On the advice of Legal Council we went with a turn key solution

06-01-2005, 07:41 PM	#98
Decadawn Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,286	fuckin' expensive.. sorry :P