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Old 06-02-2005, 02:55 AM   #1
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Damn, some of you guys are really just a bunch of sheep. Sleazydream's bestiality..

Sleazydream's bestiality banner is still there today.

And some people on this board could be considered extreme fanatics. Well, I don't know if some of you guys are sheep, fanatics, brown nosers or all of the above.

The "We didn't know it was bestiality" and the "She changed the banner" was pure bullshit, but the "fanatics" still believed that crap anyway.

Here is the proof that the stupid banner was approved the way it was and both Cybercat and Sleazydream knew it was bestiality :

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I now have FINAL PROOF that SleazyDream knew that the Banner/URL contained beastiality.

The following HTTP Request reveals

http://64.143.106.51/banner2.jpg

GET /banner2.jpg HTTP/1.1
Accept: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, application/x-shockwave-flash, application/vnd.ms-excel, application/msword, application/x-icq, */*
Accept-Language: en-us
Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate
User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)
Host: 64.143.106.51
Connection: Keep-Alive

HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 18:15:41 GMT
Server: Apache/2.0.40 (Red Hat Linux)
Last-Modified: Mon, 23 May 2005 05:38:47 GMT
ETag: "50040-2f7b-7c56a7c0"
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 12155
Connection: close
Content-Type: image/jpeg


Last-Modified: Mon, 23 May 2005

Conclusion: The file was not changed after SleazyDream approved it.


I'm off .. I let the GFY community decide on this.
Even with a proof, the sheep won't believe it. How hard is it to tell the truth : "Allright, we fucked up, we knew it was bestiality and we will remove the stupid banner on Sleazydream's site since it's illegal".

But no, they don't need to do it, because they know the sheep will forget about it.. Damn... This is just like politics..

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This was not Sleazydreams fault. Celine slipped a quicky on CyberCat
We've disabled the banners across the board until this is fixed. None of the sites we represent support Beastiality in any way.

Mark G.
CyberCat Inc.
Really?

Oh here is today's screenshot taken on Sleazydream



And on The Hun

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Old 06-02-2005, 02:58 AM   #2
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Old 06-02-2005, 03:03 AM   #6
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Old 06-02-2005, 03:05 AM   #7
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I forgot to add the following point, even if that fucking banner was just a "normal" porn/non illegal banner, the site is *STILL* about bestiality and it's so fucking obvious, even a blind person could smell the dogs and horses.

And don't give me the "She changed the site and slipped a quicky on us" bullshit reason..

You support bestiality or you don't support it.. It's not just about that banner.
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Old 06-02-2005, 03:07 AM   #8
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Old 06-02-2005, 03:08 AM   #10
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Don't know how you can arrive at that conclusion.

If I am hosting a banner on my server, and you approve it, you aren't going to see if I change it? I just slide in a different banner with the same name.

I guess I am not as elite as you.
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A few here promote beasty content.... I bet they are the ones shouting the loudest as well
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to all the people saying "sleazydream has a full waiting list. why should he list this?"

let me guess ...

bestiality advertisers pay 10+ x more than normal advertisers?

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Old 06-02-2005, 03:10 AM   #13
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Looks like a serious error on the part of Cybercat.

It's across the network of sites.
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Old 06-02-2005, 03:13 AM   #14
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Don't know how you can arrive at that conclusion.

If I am hosting a banner on my server, and you approve it, you aren't going to see if I change it? I just slide in a different banner with the same name.

I guess I am not as elite as you.
baddog - if you would just change the file then in the HTTP response the Last-Modified would show the date you made the last change.

However, in this case it shows May 23 2005. This is way before it appeared on SleazyDream's site.

=> KinkyCeline did NOT change the banner. SleazyDream knew what was going on.

(Of course neither SleazyDream nor the whole sheep parade thought about such a thing like HTTP Headers/Last-Modified)
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Old 06-02-2005, 03:13 AM   #15
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Don't know how you can arrive at that conclusion.

If I am hosting a banner on my server, and you approve it, you aren't going to see if I change it? I just slide in a different banner with the same name.

I guess I am not as elite as you.
Like I said, who gives a shit about the banner anyway.. The site is about bestiality.. They knew it was bestiality. They approved the stupid site. No more bullshit excuses.
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Old 06-02-2005, 03:21 AM   #16
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The banner is still in rotation and still linked to beastiality.
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Old 06-02-2005, 04:06 AM   #17
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Looks like a serious error on the part of Cybercat.

It's across the network of sites.
We put to much focus on the "banner" issue but we missed the whole point. They approved a bestiality site, that's the main issue here. I am sure they reviewed that site. Unless you can just buy a spot and put illegal shit on it and promote it without problems.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but....

Say I created two moo.jpg 's on May 23rd.. I uploaded the first one on june 1st for the ad campaign.

I then upload the second moo.jpg after the ad campaign starts effectively overwriting the first moo.jpg

Wouldn't the last modified date only show May 23rd since it was created and last modofied on May 23rd on my system?

Or would apache open the file all by itself, change the modified date on it then save it? Unlikely.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but....

Say I created two moo.jpg 's on May 23rd.. I uploaded the first one on june 1st for the ad campaign.

I then upload the second moo.jpg after the ad campaign starts effectively overwriting the first moo.jpg

Wouldn't the last modified date only show May 23rd since it was created and last modofied on May 23rd on my system?

Or would apache open the file all by itself, change the modified date on it then save it? Unlikely.
I have no idea but what difference does it make?? Cybercat and Sleazy both said the shit was unacceptable and they took it down. Ummm, it's still there. Go look for yourself. I'm also pretty sure this would have been dropped if Sleazy didn't attack people in the same manner pretty often. He'd have a field day with this if he caught someone he didn't like doing it.
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Did you ever think that they may have just missed it? When you look at banners all day they blend together, if you're not paying close enough attention I can see it being fairly easy to miss the bestiality in that banner. I don't know much about this situation, but from what I know of Sleazy he doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who would knowingly put his successful business at risk by committing what is probably a crime in Canada, for a couple hundred bucks in advertising that he would have gotten from someone else anyway. I'm the last guy to jump on any bandwagon but I would bet money that Scott didn't personally know that he was putting up bestiality.

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I have no idea but what difference does it make?? Cybercat and Sleazy both said the shit was unacceptable and they took it down. Ummm, it's still there. Go look for yourself. I'm also pretty sure this would have been dropped if Sleazy didn't attack people in the same manner pretty often. He'd have a field day with this if he caught someone he didn't like doing it.
I just find it hard to believe that Sleazy would stoop to this though. He's got way too much at stake. I fail to believe he knew what was going on. However, why the hell is it not taken down? Weird.

What aprt of PEI you from?
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Just to exclude any misunderstanding.

Last-Modified is the time the file was changed on the SERVER (e.g. through an upload) and NOT the last time you edited the file locally.
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I just find it hard to believe that Sleazy would stoop to this though. He's got way too much at stake. I fail to believe he knew what was going on. However, why the hell is it not taken down? Weird.

What aprt of PEI you from?
I'm in Charlottetown

Dunno, but they both said it was down hours and hours ago.
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Did you ever think that they may have just missed it? When you look at banners all day they blend together, if you're not paying close enough attention I can see it being fairly easy to miss the bestiality in that banner. I don't know much about this situation, but from what I know of Sleazy he doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who would knowingly put his successful business at risk by committing what is probably a crime in Canada, for a couple hundred bucks in advertising that he would have gotten from someone else anyway. I'm the last guy to jump on any bandwagon but I would bet money that Scott didn't personally know that he was putting up bestiality.

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For the 3rd time.. Fuck that banner.. The banner is not the issue here..

They said that they didn't support bestiality but they approved a bestiality site.

Even if the banner promoting that site was just a normal porn banner, the content of the site is clearly bestiality.

The "they changed the banner" excuse can't explain why they approved the advertising for the site.
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Did you ever think that they may have just missed it? When you look at banners all day they blend together, if you're not paying close enough attention I can see it being fairly easy to miss the bestiality in that banner. I don't know much about this situation, but from what I know of Sleazy he doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who would knowingly put his successful business at risk by committing what is probably a crime in Canada, for a couple hundred bucks in advertising that he would have gotten from someone else anyway. I'm the last guy to jump on any bandwagon but I would bet money that Scott didn't personally know that he was putting up bestiality.

Take note, I'm almost never wrong.
There is a 5 page thread on this subject already. Nastyking brought it to his attention forever ago. Cybercat stepped in and said they were killing banners until it was gone, Sleazy said he agreed. Yet a day later and it's still running. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm am I bandwagon jumping to assume they don't really give a shit?
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Just to exclude any misunderstanding.

Last-Modified is the time the file was changed on the SERVER (e.g. through an upload) and NOT the last time you edited the file locally.

yeah I know. I tested it

This all just doesn't make sense at all. Scott wouldn't jeapordize his biz liek that. There must be an explanation.
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I'm sorry, Krille brought it up. 11 some hours ago!

http://www.gfyboard.com/showthread.php?t=475095
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yeah I know. I tested it

This all just doesn't make sense at all. Scott wouldn't jeapordize his biz liek that. There must be an explanation.
For the 4th time.. Fuck that banner.. The banner is not the issue here..

They said that they didn't support bestiality but they approved a bestiality site.

Even if the banner promoting that site was just a normal porn banner, the content of the site is clearly bestiality.

The "they changed the banner" excuse can't explain why they approved the advertising for the site.
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I'm in Charlottetown

Dunno, but they both said it was down hours and hours ago.
Ah .. I played at Baba's Lounge there once. Weird experience.. trannies dancing to our tunes.. the guitar player says to me during the break "dude, you see those hot chicks?" he's all excited... Then we let him know "They are fucking transexuals man! Wtf is wrong with you!?"

Boy.. was his face red..

The Felafals there we're yummy though

Actually, the drummer that was in my that band was from Charlottetown.. Trevor Clements.... ring a bell?
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For the 4th time.. Fuck that banner.. The banner is not the issue here..

They said that they didn't support bestiality but they approved a bestiality site.

Even if the banner promoting that site was just a normal porn banner, the content of the site is clearly bestiality.

The "they changed the banner" excuse can't explain why they approved the advertising for the site.
Ah just let it go man. You and I both know the whole story will neve come to light here as it's none of our business really and they'll stick to what was said and that's that, True or not true, doesn't matter.
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True or not true, doesn't matter.
Yes it does, I think that being honest is still important in this industry. I know that some people don't give a shit as long as they can make money.

Bestiality is illegal in most countries. Especially in Canada. They said they did not support it. You and I both know it's bullshit. I just want another statement saying "We fucked up, we knew it was bestiality and we will remove it".
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I'm sorry, Krille brought it up. 11 some hours ago!

http://www.gfyboard.com/showthread.php?t=475095
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For the 4th time.. Fuck that banner.. The banner is not the issue here..

They said that they didn't support bestiality but they approved a bestiality site.

Even if the banner promoting that site was just a normal porn banner, the content of the site is clearly bestiality.

The "they changed the banner" excuse can't explain why they approved the advertising for the site.
I must be looking at the wrong site. It's not kinkyceline.com?

If it is, it doesn't look like a bestiality site to me. I looked at the front page, and entered to the second page, and then tried a couple links at the top. More than anyone selling ad space to the site would probably look at. No sign of any animals, just looks like a typical amateur site, assuming this is 1997. Upon closer inspection you realize that this girl is a serious freak, but I still don't see any animals. What page are they on?

I don't think this was done intentionally, at least on the part of SD. Seems more like lazy reviewing to me.

Don't get me wrong, I like giving people shit as much as the next guy, but this is really overblown if you ask me.
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I must be looking at the wrong site. It's not kinkyceline.com?

If it is, it doesn't look like a bestiality site to me.


This is the banner link

http://kinkyceline.com/indexsd.html

Note the indexsd (Index SleazyDream)

Taken from http://www.kristyextremempegs.com/main1.htm

"Great News: Celine's Extreme Horsefucking Video for sale Click Here"

Or on the sample page

http://www.kristyextremempegs.com/samples2/

"Click here for Kristy Sample Animal Pics "
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"We fucked up, we knew it was bestiality and we will remove it".

That'll never happen. That's what I'm telling you.

Both parties involved have too much pull to admit a fault. Even if this is a cover-up (not saying it is as I stand on the fence about it) it's not going to affect their business. Once something turns to drama around here, nothing is taken seriously anymore and they realise that. We have someone who isn't the most level headed, with a track record of being a complete ass to boot, showing proof and those that matter to their pocketbooks won't take any of it seriously.
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I think Rich had a point, it all comes down to lazy reviewing and nobody wants to admit fault. hwoever, why the hell is the ad spot sitll running? Makes no sense.
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I think Rich had a point, it all comes down to lazy reviewing and nobody wants to admit fault.
Not it's not lazy reviewing, Rich clicked the wrong link. He just typed kinkyceline.com but that's not the banner link.

Here is the correct link :

http://www.kinkyceline.com/indexsd.html

Stop trying to find excuses for them. Geez...
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Old 06-02-2005, 05:20 AM   #42
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What really amazes me is that so many care about other people's sites
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Old 06-02-2005, 05:24 AM   #43
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What really amazes me is that so many care about other people's sites
Maybe its a direct response on the way he acts on the boards. Don't know him in real life but on GFY he can be a real dick sometimes acting like he is king
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Old 06-02-2005, 05:32 AM   #44
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Who's the idiot now you worthless peice of shit?
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Old 06-02-2005, 05:53 AM   #45
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Old 06-02-2005, 06:15 AM   #46
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yup still there... did they really say they took it down?
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Old 06-02-2005, 06:25 AM   #47
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Not it's not lazy reviewing, Rich clicked the wrong link. He just typed kinkyceline.com but that's not the banner link.

Here is the correct link :

http://www.kinkyceline.com/indexsd.html

Stop trying to find excuses for them. Geez...
I know what the link is, I'm jyst saying, they prolly never looked closely enough or looked at all. She prollyjust gave them the main url at first or whatnot and then gave them the url being used when confirming the ad campaign.
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Old 06-02-2005, 06:36 AM   #48
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They prolly never looked closely enough or looked at all.
You are telling me they never look the links they approve? So anyone could just submit a banner linking to maturesex.com with a link to CP and then put that banner across their network?

Oh come on man, you're just trying too hard now to find bullshit excuses for them.
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Old 06-02-2005, 06:39 AM   #49
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Old 06-02-2005, 07:38 AM   #50
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I have to get in on this ...........I guess
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