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swedguy · 06-25-2003, 11:24 AM

I just checked my Soul Cash linkcodes.

To my surprise I was redirected to a URL that didn't have my webmaster ID in it.

Linkcode: http://www.soulcash.com/ps/count.cgi...st&website=bgs

It should have redirected me to:
http://www.bravegirls.com/index1.html?test::

but instead I was redirected to:
http://www.bravegirls.com/index1.html?mcommerce::

Next time I tried it, I was redirected to the correct one.
I get redirected to the mcommerce account every 15-20 time I use the linkcode.

btw. "test" is not my real account.

Anyone else that it happens to?

Rich · 06-25-2003, 11:30 AM

Wow, they went low budget on the shave machine.

TheEbonyFelony · 06-25-2003, 11:32 AM

Contact me on icq 33176397

swedguy · 06-25-2003, 11:32 AM

It stopped working from my IP now.

But I tried it through a proxy, then it started redirecting again.

Rich · 06-25-2003, 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by swedguy
It stopped working from my IP now.

But I tried it through a proxy, then it started redirecting again.

Busted

Rich · 06-25-2003, 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by TheEbonyFelony
Contact me on icq 33176397

yeah contact their board whore so they can get this under wraps.

TheEbonyFelony · 06-25-2003, 11:38 AM

toll free 800-833-3818

TheEbonyFelony · 06-25-2003, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich

yeah contact their board whore so they can get this under wraps.

who are you?

swedguy · 06-25-2003, 11:40 AM

It seems to be limited per site too. After 2-3 times it doesn't seem to redirect anymore.
Then I tried another site, and it started redirecting again.

Interesting behavior

Dveron · 06-25-2003, 11:40 AM

Rich · 06-25-2003, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheEbonyFelony

who are you?

The guy who's laughing at your morbidly obese ass for being a board whore for some lame program that just got busted with a stupidly basic, 1997 style shaving system.

footsex · 06-25-2003, 11:46 AM

Linkcodes are working fine for me!

TheEbonyFelony · 06-25-2003, 11:48 AM

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Originally posted by Rich

The guy who's laughing at your morbidly obese ass for being a board whore for some lame program that just got busted with a stupidly basic, 1997 style shaving system.

are u willing to put some money on this? or better yet your 'buisness'?

swedguy · 06-25-2003, 11:51 AM

Now it redirected to a different URL, but the same mcommerce account

http://www.blackgal.com/index1.htm?mcommerce::http://www.orgie.com/exit/index.html

Rich · 06-25-2003, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheEbonyFelony

are u willing to put some money on this? or better yet your 'buisness'?

lol, jackass. Yes, I want to bet money with some disgustingly fat slob who records songs from the radio and says he produces them, about something that a program he whores himself for dimes for can easily hide. Yeah that sounds like something I'd do. You're focusing on all the wrong details here, worry about the affiliates you're scamming, not the guy laughing about it.

SixNine · 06-25-2003, 11:58 AM

swedguy - Great to come here and get your peer's suggestion/feedback but... how about picking up the phone and giving us a call (800) 833-3818.

Rich - Don't make accusations your ass (or bank account) can't cash.

I've been testing links but haven't seen one redirect. I'm discussing it with the programmers now.

SixNine

TheEbonyFelony · 06-25-2003, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich

lol, jackass. Yes, I want to bet money with some disgustingly fat slob who records songs from the radio and says he produces them, about something that a program he whores himself for dimes for can easily hide. Yeah that sounds like something I'd do. You're focusing on all the wrong details here, worry about the affiliates you're scamming, not the guy laughing about it.

the funny thing about this is when it is all said and done and the error is fixed you wont have the balls to apologize for saying Soulcash was 'shaving'.

TheEbonyFelony · 06-25-2003, 12:01 PM

and on a personal level Rich you dont have the cahones to say shit in my face..bring it or sing it.I'm not hard to find as u can tell

swedguy · 06-25-2003, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SixNine
swedguy - Great to come here and get your peer's suggestion/feedback but... how about picking up the phone and giving us a call (800) 833-3818.

I'll give you a call after dinner.

Rich · 06-25-2003, 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by SixNine

Rich - Don't make accusations your ass (or bank account) can't cash.

Sue me, you'd be suprised what kind of accusations my ass can in fact cash.

Quote:

Originally posted by TheEbonyFelony

the funny thing about this is when it is all said and done and the error is fixed you wont have the balls to apologize for saying Soulcash was 'shaving'.

When the error is fixed? lol, give me a break. Prove that it was actually an error, and I'll consider apologizing.

TheEbonyFelony · 06-25-2003, 12:09 PM

better yet fly the tagline I am TDF's boardbitch when its done

Hardcore J · 06-25-2003, 12:10 PM

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Originally posted by Rich

When the error is fixed? lol, give me a break. Prove that it was actually an error, and I'll consider apologizing.

SixNine is a very respectable webmaster that runs an even more respectable affiliate program. I highly doubt that he would do something like this on purpose. Mistakes happen, people aren't perfect!

Rich · 06-25-2003, 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by TheEbonyFelony
better yet fly the tagline I am TDF's boardbitch when its done

I'll do that they day you give up salt and sugar, deal? Seriously, you'll drop 200 lbs in a year. I know it makes you tear up when Jerry Seinfeld calls people as fat as you not human, admit it.

Honestly, I'd love to see some proof that this is an error. Please keep in mind, I'm talking real proof, not GFY newbie proof. Some new account posting that they're your programmer and that they fucked up isn't going to fly with anyone with half a brain. I saw the shit redirect to your house account with my own two eyes, it's going to take real evidence to make me believe this wasn't out and out shaving.

Rich · 06-25-2003, 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by Hardcore J

SixNine is a very respectable webmaster that runs an even more respectable affiliate program. I highly doubt that he would do something like this on purpose. Mistakes happen, people aren't perfect!

Right, "respectable" programs don't shave, right? Give it up, most do, these guys just got caught because they're stupid about it.

SixNine · 06-25-2003, 12:17 PM

This is no mistake. We're tracking down the cheater (mcommerce)right now. I'll keep you guys posted.

SixNine

TheEbonyFelony · 06-25-2003, 12:18 PM

mcommerce isnt a house account...it will all come out when its fixed...get that tagline warmed up,or people will know you for being the bitch who doesnt honor bets

SixNine · 06-25-2003, 12:20 PM

Rich,
What house account? "mcommerce" is an affiliate account. You have no idea what you're talking about.

SixNine

MetaMan · 06-25-2003, 12:21 PM

all these places are stealing ur money foos

Matt 26z · 06-25-2003, 12:26 PM

I just loaded

http://www.soulcash.com/ps/count.cgi...23&website=bgs

11 times, and it worked like normal. But on the 12th try it put me here:

http://www.bravegirls.com/index1.htm...xit/index.html

Rich · 06-25-2003, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheEbonyFelony
mcommerce isnt a house account...it will all come out when its fixed...get that tagline warmed up,or people will know you for being the bitch who doesnt honor bets

?

What the fuck are you smoking?

First of all:

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich
I'll do that they day you give up salt and sugar, deal? Seriously, you'll drop 200 lbs in a year.

I think I'm safe there.

And even if I did say I'd put that in my sig if this wasn't shaving, I also recall asking for more than hearsay. Claiming you got hacked is a little Like Whoa, don't ya think?

Quote:

Originally posted by SixNine
Rich,
What house account? "mcommerce" is an affiliate account. You have no idea what you're talking about.

SixNine

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich

Honestly, I'd love to see some proof that this is an error. Please keep in mind, I'm talking real proof, not GFY newbie proof.

Matt 26z · 06-25-2003, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SixNine
We're tracking down the cheater (mcommerce)right now. I'll keep you guys posted.

If I load a sponsor code with a random affiliate ID, then how does the cheater (mcommerce) get it to redirect to his account? The only way to do this would be to hack into your program script on your server, and have every X number of hits redirect to his.

How likely is this?

Rich · 06-25-2003, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt 26z

If I load a sponsor code with a random affiliate ID, then how does the cheater (mcommerce) get it to redirect to his account? The only way to do this would be to hack into your program script on your server, and have every X number of hits redirect to his.

How likely is this?

Shavers, or their system is not very secure. hmm, I would've gone with a different excuse, they loose either way with this one. A rouge employee that they quickly terminate would've been better in my opinion. Like Whoa pretty much killed the "we're getting hacked" excuse the 10th time they pulled it.

swedguy · 06-25-2003, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt 26z
I just loaded

http://www.soulcash.com/ps/count.cgi...23&website=bgs

11 times, and it worked like normal. But on the 12th try it put me here:

http://www.bravegirls.com/index1.htm...xit/index.html

Good. Then it wasn't my browser that was broken

Jizar II · 06-25-2003, 01:13 PM

LOL pretty fucked up

Rich · 06-25-2003, 01:17 PM

Although, if that's the only way they're shaving, only 1 out of every 12-15 clicks is probably better than the industry standard, sadly.

SixNine · 06-25-2003, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by swedguy
Good. Then it wasn't my browser that was broken

No man... you found somebody who's been cheating us since May. Everything will be fixed and bulletproofed shortly. The least I can do is offer you an explanation so feel free to give me a call.

SixNine

Matt 26z · 06-25-2003, 01:57 PM

I just tried this again. Here's how many tries it took each time before replacing the id with the mcommerce id...

25
21
35
18
11
36
10
1
7
19

So that's 183 hits, and 10 shaves. That comes out to a 5.5% shave ratio in this trial.

Kevlar · 06-25-2003, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SixNine
Everything will be fixed and bulletproofed shortly.

Sweet, when should we start mailing?

pine · 06-25-2003, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt 26z
I just tried this again. Here's how many tries it took each time before replacing the id with the mcommerce id...

25
21
35
18
11
36
10
1
7
19

So that's 183 hits, and 10 shaves. That comes out to a 5.5% shave ratio in this trial.

Dude, you're a Human HitBot!

swedguy · 06-25-2003, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pine

Dude, you're a Human HitBot!

SixNine · 06-25-2003, 02:45 PM

MCommerce is a Russian affiliate out of Brooklyn. They hacked our box and modified a few things.

Ha ha I'll be the butt of the jokes, you can rub my name in the mud, and make SoulCash part of the GFY drama for today.

Here's a little proof for you... when the link redirects it's even spoofing the referrer (which is hard coded into the hacks they made).

MCommerce is a cheater. He ripped SoulCash off for $520 and was just bugging me for more money the other day on ICQ. I'm just glad he's caught and has brought this exploit to the surface so we can implement security fixes. This is just one more thing to add to the list of pranks that have been pulled on my company.

Being a sponsor puts you at the top of the food chain and is a shit load of fun but... days like today truly suck ass. I guess growth has it's down side.

We're trying to make our afiliates as much cash as possible and at the same protect ourselves from our affiliates... definetly a fucked up dynamic.

I hope this thread has been enjoyable for all of you, have a kick ass day.

SixNine

TheEbonyFelony · 06-25-2003, 02:47 PM

get that tagline warmed up Rich my Bitch!

swedguy · 06-25-2003, 02:49 PM

SixNine, I've tried to call you. But no one picks up.

SixNine · 06-25-2003, 02:54 PM

Hit me on the cell (206) 579-2706
My graphics guy thinks he's to good to pick up the phone.

SixNine

Number1Thumb · 06-25-2003, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SixNine
Hit me on the cell (206) 579-2706
My graphics guy thinks he's to good to pick up the phone.

SixNine

Matt 26z · 06-25-2003, 03:24 PM

So let's get this straight....

1. Mcommerce ripped you off for $520.

2. Mcommerce hacks into SoulCash in May, and obviously becomes one of SoulCash's top affiliates (hit wise at least if going by my 5.5% test result).

3. Mcommerce begs you for money.

At exactly what point should things have seemed a little strange?

SixNine · 06-25-2003, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt 26z
So let's get this straight....

1. Mcommerce ripped you off for $520.

2. Mcommerce hacks into SoulCash in May, and obviously becomes one of SoulCash's top affiliates (hit wise at least if going by my 5.5% test result).

3. Mcommerce begs you for money.

At exactly what point should things have seemed a little strange?

Wow I wish I had your expert opinion and advice two months ago, oh but forget it, you're probably busy running your ultra succesful affiliate program and Internet Security business.

None of it was strange. Lot's of people send from exit consoles. Basically they caught me with my mouth open (as Eddie Murphy would say).

I'll put money where my mouth is... Any SoulCash affiliate that contacts me I will calculate 5% of there earning since May 16th and add it to their next check (as long as it meets the minimum).

SixNine

Pornwolf · 06-25-2003, 04:05 PM

Wow! You can't really ask for more than that!

bigdog · 06-25-2003, 04:10 PM

Is soulcash useing the x3 affilate script? i have to give a lof of credit to Sixnine though.A lof of other sponsors would never admit to being hacked

traffictrader · 06-25-2003, 04:11 PM

ummm, anyone who knows sixnine, know's Seth doesn't shave.

End of story.

He is one fo the few remaining up and up guys in the biz

06-25-2003, 11:24 AM	#1
swedguy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,981	Soul Cash, what's up? I just checked my Soul Cash linkcodes. To my surprise I was redirected to a URL that didn't have my webmaster ID in it. Linkcode: http://www.soulcash.com/ps/count.cgi...st&website=bgs It should have redirected me to: http://www.bravegirls.com/index1.html?test:: but instead I was redirected to: http://www.bravegirls.com/index1.html?mcommerce:: Next time I tried it, I was redirected to the correct one. I get redirected to the mcommerce account every 15-20 time I use the linkcode. btw. "test" is not my real account. Anyone else that it happens to?

06-25-2003, 11:32 AM	#3
TheEbonyFelony Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: hidden village of the sand..TRAINING TO KILL NARUTO Posts: 1,964	Contact me on icq 33176397 __________________ no you cannot know what im promoting you nosey fucks!

06-25-2003, 11:38 AM	#7
TheEbonyFelony Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: hidden village of the sand..TRAINING TO KILL NARUTO Posts: 1,964	toll free 800-833-3818 __________________ no you cannot know what im promoting you nosey fucks!

06-25-2003, 11:40 AM	#10
Dveron Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Vancouver Posts: 2,794	hmmm

06-25-2003, 12:01 PM	#18
TheEbonyFelony Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: hidden village of the sand..TRAINING TO KILL NARUTO Posts: 1,964	and on a personal level Rich you dont have the cahones to say shit in my face..bring it or sing it.I'm not hard to find as u can tell __________________ no you cannot know what im promoting you nosey fucks!

06-25-2003, 11:30 AM	#2
Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	Wow, they went low budget on the shave machine.

06-25-2003, 11:46 AM	#12
footsex Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NY Posts: 803	Linkcodes are working fine for me!

06-25-2003, 11:51 AM	#14
swedguy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,981	Now it redirected to a different URL, but the same mcommerce account http://www.blackgal.com/index1.htm?mcommerce::http://www.orgie.com/exit/index.html

06-25-2003, 11:58 AM	#16
SixNine Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Sea Town Posts: 1,357	swedguy - Great to come here and get your peer's suggestion/feedback but... how about picking up the phone and giving us a call (800) 833-3818. Rich - Don't make accusations your ass (or bank account) can't cash. I've been testing links but haven't seen one redirect. I'm discussing it with the programmers now. SixNine

06-25-2003, 12:09 PM	#21
TheEbonyFelony Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: hidden village of the sand..TRAINING TO KILL NARUTO Posts: 1,964	better yet fly the tagline I am TDF's boardbitch when its done __________________ no you cannot know what im promoting you nosey fucks!

06-25-2003, 12:17 PM	#25
SixNine Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Sea Town Posts: 1,357	This is no mistake. We're tracking down the cheater (mcommerce)right now. I'll keep you guys posted. SixNine

06-25-2003, 12:18 PM	#26
TheEbonyFelony Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: hidden village of the sand..TRAINING TO KILL NARUTO Posts: 1,964	mcommerce isnt a house account...it will all come out when its fixed...get that tagline warmed up,or people will know you for being the bitch who doesnt honor bets __________________ no you cannot know what im promoting you nosey fucks!

06-25-2003, 12:20 PM	#27
SixNine Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Sea Town Posts: 1,357	Rich, What house account? "mcommerce" is an affiliate account. You have no idea what you're talking about. SixNine

06-25-2003, 12:21 PM	#28
MetaMan I AM WEB 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,682	all these places are stealing ur money foos

06-25-2003, 12:26 PM	#29
Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	I just loaded http://www.soulcash.com/ps/count.cgi...23&website=bgs 11 times, and it worked like normal. But on the 12th try it put me here: http://www.bravegirls.com/index1.htm...xit/index.html

06-25-2003, 01:13 PM	#34
Jizar II Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: LLL© Posts: 1,425	LOL pretty fucked up

06-25-2003, 01:17 PM	#35
Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	Although, if that's the only way they're shaving, only 1 out of every 12-15 clicks is probably better than the industry standard, sadly.

06-25-2003, 01:57 PM	#37
Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	I just tried this again. Here's how many tries it took each time before replacing the id with the mcommerce id... 25 21 35 18 11 36 10 1 7 19 So that's 183 hits, and 10 shaves. That comes out to a 5.5% shave ratio in this trial.

06-25-2003, 02:45 PM	#41
SixNine Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Sea Town Posts: 1,357	MCommerce is a Russian affiliate out of Brooklyn. They hacked our box and modified a few things. Ha ha I'll be the butt of the jokes, you can rub my name in the mud, and make SoulCash part of the GFY drama for today. Here's a little proof for you... when the link redirects it's even spoofing the referrer (which is hard coded into the hacks they made). MCommerce is a cheater. He ripped SoulCash off for $520 and was just bugging me for more money the other day on ICQ. I'm just glad he's caught and has brought this exploit to the surface so we can implement security fixes. This is just one more thing to add to the list of pranks that have been pulled on my company. Being a sponsor puts you at the top of the food chain and is a shit load of fun but... days like today truly suck ass. I guess growth has it's down side. We're trying to make our afiliates as much cash as possible and at the same protect ourselves from our affiliates... definetly a fucked up dynamic. I hope this thread has been enjoyable for all of you, have a kick ass day. SixNine

06-25-2003, 02:47 PM	#42
TheEbonyFelony Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: hidden village of the sand..TRAINING TO KILL NARUTO Posts: 1,964	get that tagline warmed up Rich my Bitch! __________________ no you cannot know what im promoting you nosey fucks!

06-25-2003, 02:49 PM	#43
swedguy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,981	SixNine, I've tried to call you. But no one picks up.

06-25-2003, 02:54 PM	#44
SixNine Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Sea Town Posts: 1,357	Hit me on the cell (206) 579-2706 My graphics guy thinks he's to good to pick up the phone. SixNine

06-25-2003, 03:24 PM	#46
Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	So let's get this straight.... 1. Mcommerce ripped you off for $520. 2. Mcommerce hacks into SoulCash in May, and obviously becomes one of SoulCash's top affiliates (hit wise at least if going by my 5.5% test result). 3. Mcommerce begs you for money. At exactly what point should things have seemed a little strange?

06-25-2003, 04:05 PM	#48
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	Wow! You can't really ask for more than that! __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

06-25-2003, 04:10 PM	#49
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	Is soulcash useing the x3 affilate script? i have to give a lof of credit to Sixnine though.A lof of other sponsors would never admit to being hacked Last edited by bigdog; 06-25-2003 at 04:12 PM..

06-25-2003, 04:11 PM	#50
traffictrader Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: ICQ# 93507395 Posts: 1,331	ummm, anyone who knows sixnine, know's Seth doesn't shave. End of story. He is one fo the few remaining up and up guys in the biz __________________