RavenRiley.com 2257 Statement - GoFuckYourself.com

jaYMan · 06-21-2005, 02:54 PM

After a month of counsel with our attorney, we have came to a decision regarding the new 2257 laws that effect US webmasters.

RavenRiley.com fully supports all legitimate efforts to eradicate child pornography from the net and punish any who produce it. However, we do not believe the new regulations published by the Attorney General will have any success in reducing CP but will instead reduce the amount of legal, constitutionally protected adult expression. Webmasters have already begun taking down pages. Producers have withdrawn content. Legitimate free speech is being silenced.

We believe that the Department of Justice has exceeded its authority by requiring so-called ?secondary producers? to maintain copies of records kept by us. We also believe that the additional records-keeping requirements are unconstitutionally burdensome and will eventually be struck down.

RavenRiley.com also supports compliance with laws that are in effect. Therefore, we are taking certain measures so that our program is in compliance with the new regulations until they are enjoined or struck down. We believe the private, personal information of all models deserves to be protected and we will not provide copies of any model ID?s to any affiliates. RavenRiley.com is not a law firm, so we won?t be giving you any advice on what to do with the content you already have up! No permission is given by RavenRiley.com to put up any new pages or sites using previously released hardcore content. All new content provided to affiliates will not be sexually explicit, and no banners or ads will feature hardcore scenes. We have rented space for our new offices and accordingly will be storing all of our records at the new location, so please take note of our new Custodian of Records information.

Our Affiliates are the reason RavenRiley.com has become such an immensely popular website this year. We are committed to providing sexy content that keeps surfers coming back. The great material our affiliates and surfers love will still be on our hosted sites and galleries and will be fully compliant. We will continue to add hot new content every week and continue to provide live, streaming and very hot hardcore video for our members.
If anyone would like to contact us about this, please feel free.

RavenRiley.com

StuartD · 06-21-2005, 02:56 PM

Added to http://www.sponsorslist.com/2257.php

fris · 06-21-2005, 02:59 PM

thanks for the update

Morgan · 06-21-2005, 03:01 PM

Shooting_Manic · 06-21-2005, 03:03 PM

Thanks for the update.

To bad you guys put up all that new hardcore content and even worse that I spent 600.00 on having 30 galleries and 30 days submittions done for you guys. Your stance is correct however. Maybe that content should have never gone up, but then again, maybe I should have not had them built and submitted.

What should we do about all the hand built gals we did? Do I need to swap out all the content that you supplied that is not compliant?

DWB · 06-21-2005, 03:05 PM

Good for you. I would not give her ID out either.

Dalai lama · 06-21-2005, 03:05 PM

Thank you for the update.

Shooting_Manic · 06-21-2005, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shooting_Manic

Thanks for the update.

To bad you guys put up all that new hardcore content and even worse that I spent 600.00 on having 30 galleries and 30 days submittions done for you guys. Your stance is correct however. Maybe that content should have never gone up, but then again, maybe I should have not had them built and submitted.

What should we do about all the hand built gals we did? Do I need to swap out all the content that you supplied that is not compliant?

You made the correct choice however. Good for you!

jaYMan · 06-21-2005, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shooting_Manic

Thanks for the update.

To bad you guys put up all that new hardcore content and even worse that I spent 600.00 on having 30 galleries and 30 days submittions done for you guys. Your stance is correct however. Maybe that content should have never gone up, but then again, maybe I should have not had them built and submitted.

What should we do about all the hand built gals we did? Do I need to swap out all the content that you supplied that is not compliant?

We were softcore up until just very recently, so this does double suck. Hit me up, there are several ways we can go to work this out. We will be working with several companies on a few different angels here to stay in compliance and also use exisiting promotional materials. Lets ICQ or phone, I'm sure we can work something out.

2HousePlague · 06-21-2005, 03:14 PM

good stuff, jayman -- nice seeing you and raven in SD --

Quote:

Originally Posted by NichePay - StuartD

Added to http://www.sponsorslist.com/2257.php

that's a handy list you've put togeher, stuart -- -- may i link to it -- ?

2HP

StuartD · 06-21-2005, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2HousePlague

that's a handy list you've put togeher, stuart -- -- may i link to it -- ?

2HP

Of course, the more people who are aware of the announcements for the various programs, the better

wdsguy · 06-21-2005, 03:20 PM

does this mean i am not getting her id?

NTSS · 06-21-2005, 03:28 PM

Thanks for the update Jayman

baddog · 06-21-2005, 03:44 PM

does this mean I have to delete her phone number from my cell?

Anthony · 06-21-2005, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaYMan

After a month of counsel with our attorney, we have came to a decision regarding the new 2257 laws that effect US webmasters.

RavenRiley.com fully supports all legitimate efforts to eradicate child pornography from the net and punish any who produce it. However, we do not believe the new regulations published by the Attorney General will have any success in reducing CP but will instead reduce the amount of legal, constitutionally protected adult expression. Webmasters have already begun taking down pages. Producers have withdrawn content. Legitimate free speech is being silenced.

We believe that the Department of Justice has exceeded its authority by requiring so-called ?secondary producers? to maintain copies of records kept by us. We also believe that the additional records-keeping requirements are unconstitutionally burdensome and will eventually be struck down.

RavenRiley.com also supports compliance with laws that are in effect. Therefore, we are taking certain measures so that our program is in compliance with the new regulations until they are enjoined or struck down. We believe the private, personal information of all models deserves to be protected and we will not provide copies of any model ID?s to any affiliates. RavenRiley.com is not a law firm, so we won?t be giving you any advice on what to do with the content you already have up! No permission is given by RavenRiley.com to put up any new pages or sites using previously released hardcore content. All new content provided to affiliates will not be sexually explicit, and no banners or ads will feature hardcore scenes. We have rented space for our new offices and accordingly will be storing all of our records at the new location, so please take note of our new Custodian of Records information.

Our Affiliates are the reason RavenRiley.com has become such an immensely popular website this year. We are committed to providing sexy content that keeps surfers coming back. The great material our affiliates and surfers love will still be on our hosted sites and galleries and will be fully compliant. We will continue to add hot new content every week and continue to provide live, streaming and very hot hardcore video for our members.
If anyone would like to contact us about this, please feel free.

RavenRiley.com

Holy shit! You so did not write this!

Kudos!

SykkBoy · 06-21-2005, 04:08 PM

good news jaY!
I'll be hitting you up soon

Lensman · 06-21-2005, 04:21 PM

Thank goodness, I don't want my ID given out.

FilthyRob · 06-21-2005, 04:26 PM

Good news. Protect Raven at all costs.

jaYMan · 06-21-2005, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lensman

Thank goodness, I don't want my ID given out.

Speaking of which, I need that POV you guys did on the yacht.

jaYMan · 06-21-2005, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony

Holy shit! You so did not write this!

Kudos!

Thats what lawyers are for ;)

3xTom · 06-21-2005, 07:32 PM

We will still have hardcore freehosted galleries

so keep linking those galleries

Quotealex · 06-21-2005, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lensman

Thank goodness, I don't want my ID given out.

Pretty much summarizes jaYMan's long statement.

cyberpunk · 06-21-2005, 09:22 PM

jayman, well said, even if it was you lawyer that actully wrote it!

You guys are doing the right thing!

quantum-x · 06-22-2005, 06:49 AM

word to that jay

quantum-x · 09-03-2005, 10:13 PM

good to know

CuriousToyBoy · 09-03-2005, 10:27 PM

Nice work Jayman !

We have taken a similar, if somewhat different attitude, but yet again, we are NOT a USA based organization in any shape, fashion or form.

We encourage anyone to follow our lead and use parts that suit them of what we have written - a simple thanks and acknowledgement is all that is required:

http://www.curiouscash.com/affiliate2257.html

This shit sucks for everyone and I applaud JayMan for his approach !

Good deal bro.

;-)

Tat2Jr · 09-03-2005, 11:28 PM

Damn, your press releases rule. You got Clinton or Regan's speech writer on the payroll don't you?

garce · 09-04-2005, 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quantum-x

good to know

Or not.

More than two months after this post was made, there is no mention of this policy at JaYMan Cash, and new hardcore Raven Riley content was still being released to affiliates as of August 10.

Any chance on getting a policy update before I plaster her cum-covered face all over the interweb?

3xTom · 09-04-2005, 08:40 AM

we had it listed in our news section...... which fell off the page as new news gets added

Sorry we dont have it listed on the new jaymancash..... but the old affiliate program stated exactally.....

We arent giving out hardcore of raven at all right now..... Only in the freehosted galleries

If there was a slip in content release ill need to know which set it is so i can pull it... as when we switched I may have missed something..... I am only human...

As of right now this statment is what it is.....

maybe after the new rules are finally released and are in stone then we can lax up again but I know that as of now EVERYONE IS A LITTLE CONFUSED.... about what the fuck is going on.......

So the answer is NO HARDCORE OF RAVEN RILEY except on our own server.........

tony286 · 09-04-2005, 08:42 AM

very good statement

Manowar · 09-04-2005, 08:48 AM

ill add it to http://www.businessvoyeur.com/sponsor-2257-regulations/

andrej_NDC · 09-04-2005, 09:03 AM

good move

but wouldnt it be easier(and more people would actually read it) to post just: We won't give IDs!
?

garce · 09-04-2005, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3xlinks

we had it listed in our news section...... which fell off the page as new news gets added

Sorry we dont have it listed on the new jaymancash..... but the old affiliate program stated exactally.....

We arent giving out hardcore of raven at all right now..... Only in the freehosted galleries

If there was a slip in content release ill need to know which set it is so i can pull it... as when we switched I may have missed something..... I am only human...

As of right now this statment is what it is.....

maybe after the new rules are finally released and are in stone then we can lax up again but I know that as of now EVERYONE IS A LITTLE CONFUSED.... about what the fuck is going on.......

So the answer is NO HARDCORE OF RAVEN RILEY except on our own server.........

Thanks for the clarification.

The set in question is titled Lingerie Play, and the file is lingerie_play.zip

06-21-2005, 02:54 PM	#1
jaYMan peace&profit, Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 4,885	RavenRiley.com 2257 Statement After a month of counsel with our attorney, we have came to a decision regarding the new 2257 laws that effect US webmasters. RavenRiley.com fully supports all legitimate efforts to eradicate child pornography from the net and punish any who produce it. However, we do not believe the new regulations published by the Attorney General will have any success in reducing CP but will instead reduce the amount of legal, constitutionally protected adult expression. Webmasters have already begun taking down pages. Producers have withdrawn content. Legitimate free speech is being silenced. We believe that the Department of Justice has exceeded its authority by requiring so-called ?secondary producers? to maintain copies of records kept by us. We also believe that the additional records-keeping requirements are unconstitutionally burdensome and will eventually be struck down. RavenRiley.com also supports compliance with laws that are in effect. Therefore, we are taking certain measures so that our program is in compliance with the new regulations until they are enjoined or struck down. We believe the private, personal information of all models deserves to be protected and we will not provide copies of any model ID?s to any affiliates. RavenRiley.com is not a law firm, so we won?t be giving you any advice on what to do with the content you already have up! No permission is given by RavenRiley.com to put up any new pages or sites using previously released hardcore content. All new content provided to affiliates will not be sexually explicit, and no banners or ads will feature hardcore scenes. We have rented space for our new offices and accordingly will be storing all of our records at the new location, so please take note of our new Custodian of Records information. Our Affiliates are the reason RavenRiley.com has become such an immensely popular website this year. We are committed to providing sexy content that keeps surfers coming back. The great material our affiliates and surfers love will still be on our hosted sites and galleries and will be fully compliant. We will continue to add hot new content every week and continue to provide live, streaming and very hot hardcore video for our members. If anyone would like to contact us about this, please feel free. RavenRiley.com __________________ peace&profit, jaYMan Last edited by jaYMan; 06-21-2005 at 02:56 PM..

06-21-2005, 02:56 PM	#2
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06-21-2005, 03:05 PM	#6
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	Good for you. I would not give her ID out either.

06-21-2005, 03:05 PM	#7
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06-21-2005, 03:20 PM	#12
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06-21-2005, 03:28 PM	#13
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06-21-2005, 03:44 PM	#14
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06-21-2005, 04:08 PM	#16
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06-21-2005, 04:21 PM	#17
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	Thank goodness, I don't want my ID given out.

06-21-2005, 04:26 PM	#18
FilthyRob Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Anaheim - CA Posts: 6,741	Good news. Protect Raven at all costs. __________________ AKA - Clubsexy

06-21-2005, 07:32 PM	#21
3xTom Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,610	We will still have hardcore freehosted galleries so keep linking those galleries

06-21-2005, 09:22 PM	#23
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06-22-2005, 06:49 AM	#24
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09-03-2005, 10:27 PM	#26
CuriousToyBoy Crazy Aussie Bastard Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Wherever I lay my hat, that's my home. Posts: 16,787	Nice work Jayman ! We have taken a similar, if somewhat different attitude, but yet again, we are NOT a USA based organization in any shape, fashion or form. We encourage anyone to follow our lead and use parts that suit them of what we have written - a simple thanks and acknowledgement is all that is required: http://www.curiouscash.com/affiliate2257.html This shit sucks for everyone and I applaud JayMan for his approach ! Good deal bro. ;-) __________________ Celebs Adult Who's Who ==> Ambush Interview ==> ICQ 293 070 684 ==> intmarpacrim AT gmail DOT com

09-03-2005, 11:28 PM	#27
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09-04-2005, 08:40 AM	#29
3xTom Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,610	we had it listed in our news section...... which fell off the page as new news gets added Sorry we dont have it listed on the new jaymancash..... but the old affiliate program stated exactally..... We arent giving out hardcore of raven at all right now..... Only in the freehosted galleries If there was a slip in content release ill need to know which set it is so i can pull it... as when we switched I may have missed something..... I am only human... As of right now this statment is what it is..... maybe after the new rules are finally released and are in stone then we can lax up again but I know that as of now EVERYONE IS A LITTLE CONFUSED.... about what the fuck is going on....... So the answer is NO HARDCORE OF RAVEN RILEY except on our own server.........

09-04-2005, 08:42 AM	#30
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	very good statement

09-04-2005, 08:48 AM	#31
Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	ill add it to http://www.businessvoyeur.com/sponsor-2257-regulations/

09-04-2005, 09:03 AM	#32
andrej_NDC Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7,760	good move but wouldnt it be easier(and more people would actually read it) to post just: We won't give IDs! ?