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Old 06-22-2005, 02:43 PM   #101
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LOL Can't argue with that!
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Old 06-22-2005, 02:44 PM   #102
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AVN haters

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Old 06-22-2005, 02:52 PM   #103
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Here's a little more insight.

Normally I keep quiet on things like this, but the truth needs to be out there. I'm sick and tired of the bullshit.

Facts:

Kimberly Wilbur was friends with Jennifer Rosenblatt (former AVN Senior VP and my wife) since they were in high school. Jen hired Kimberly to be her sales rep.

Farley Cahen was like family to me, our family's are close and we were also friends through high school back in Cleveland. I gave Farley a weeks worth of training about the internet hoping to have Farley work with my Marketing Firm, then he took my knowledge and started a Belly Ring website instead of working with me. Not a big deal, I don't mind helping friends learn the game and it was only a weeks worth of knowledge.

AVN wanted me to be their internet marketing guy,however, I'm my own company and couldn't be an in house employee, so I recommended Farley and vouched for him. I sat in a meeting with AVN and Farley and helped get him that job. My wife also pulled some weight on that as well.

Farley and Kimberly had an affair while both working for AVN.

Farley was a part of conspiring against Jen, Jen eventually got fired without cause.

Farley now changed departments from Internet to Publisher and Sales Manager and now holds Jen's job and works out of her former office. AVN would never give Jen the title of Publisher or even Associate Publisher for that matter but somehow from holding an internet division position Farley is more qualified then Jen to be a Publisher and Sales Manager of a print magazine?

Oh yeah, Kimberly now works under the same guy that she was sleeping with.

I do not place the full blame on Farley and Kimberly since it took Darren Roberts and Paul Fishbein to come up with the departure of Jennifer, but they had their hands in it no doubt.

Funny that they didn't promote a women from inside of their department. Sure does look like a true boys club over there in my humble little opinion. One that rewards those who sleep with their employees.

I can go on and on, but thought this little story is worthy of a chat board named, "Go Fuck Yourself".
For those of you who came in late and didn't read the middle of page 2.

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Old 06-22-2005, 02:56 PM   #104
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My first players ball was in vegas 2001,
I remember the woody awards and wanting to be the kind of webmaster to win one.
It's really too bad there wont be a PB this summer. But understandable.

From 2001's Players Ball with Snoop Dogg.

http://www.d-moneyshow.com/videos/pl...snoopluvit.wmv

This is the kind of stuff Internext will never again experience.

The last Players Ball was a great because it was small and intimate. But check out this clip because this is how we usually do things come January in Vegas.
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Old 06-22-2005, 03:01 PM   #105
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What's wrong with this page?: http://www.internext-expo.com/summer_index.shtml
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Old 06-22-2005, 03:01 PM   #106
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Old 06-22-2005, 03:03 PM   #107
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D$, sorry to hear, but I understand totally. That's bad news, the Player's Ball have really turned into 'must attend' events, the San Diego party was perfect 10.

The good news is that there will be a Player's Ball at Euro Webmaster Access in September, to be announced soon.

The other good news to be announced soon, is there will be a 4th annual GFY Warmup party in Florida, brought to you by your friends at PussyCash, CECash, and RealityCash. So send all your traffic, and we'll keep partying.
Glad you said you were sending me to this one, after all, can it be a true players ball without Sic One in attendance.
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www.internext-expo.com will redirect you to the correct page.
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Am I in a time warp?
they don't use that domain name now that they charge too much and rip people off, they needed a new identity

http://www.internextconference.com/
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Glad you said you were sending me to this one, after all, can it be a true players ball without Sic One in attendance.
'tis true amigo
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www.internext-expo.com will redirect you to the correct page.
It was the top listing on Google
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Naw I mean Common Sense the rapper from Chicago

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they don't use that domain name now that they charge too much and rip people off, they needed a new identity

http://www.internextconference.com/
Identity, they still want people to believe the Players Ball is still a part of their party scene.

Check out the middle pic of Snoop from the Players Ball.


http://www.internextconference.com/parties/index.shtml
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It was the top listing on Google

oy vey... Thanks for letting me know babe.
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Aly while we are educating you
do you know you represent pure scumbags?

Just curious.



I am not shooting the messenger BTW - I am just making you work a little harder for your money these days.

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Old 06-22-2005, 03:19 PM   #116
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I'd also like to caution you that while the image listed on the Internext Show's site may be the property of your photographer however it's still considered copyright infringement when the artists haven given their permission to let you use such images for the profit or gain of one's company
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Aly while we are educating you
do you know you represent pure scumbags?

Just curious.



I am not shooting the messenger BTW - I am just making you work a little harder for your money these days.


Indeed you are KB, indeed you are.

You know me; I have to make that judgement for myself. I'm not going to make a career choice based on one side of a story. So far I'm doing rather well with the Boy's Club but if they turn into scumbags you'll be the first to know.
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I've looked at De La Soul a few times, very affordable and a great live show. i used to be very friendly with Common Sense while living in SD years ago,

Both would be great for an opening act one day.
Common Sense would be a great opener for Common.

he's really hot again and would bring a great vibe to a show.
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what about the Amsterdam Show ?
Pretty good chance you'll see a Players Ball there.

Gonna go over the details with Lens and Eric in the near future.
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Aly, I'm really surprised you chose to post in my thread about this.
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I'd also like to caution you that while the image listed on the Internext Show's site may be the property of your photographer however it's still considered copyright infringement when the artists haven given their permission to let you use such images for the profit or gain of one's company
The major infringement is to my Players Ball.

Making people register for upcoming parties using deceptive techniques using the Players Ball pic is weak.
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Aly, I'm really surprised you chose to post in my thread about this.
About what Darren? I have absolutely no issue with you at all. I am responding to peoples' questions about Internext... and KB.
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About what Darren? I have absolutely no issue with you at all. I am responding to peoples' questions about Internext... and KB.
Since it's my thread, why don't you respond to the image of the Players Ball being used still to promote Internext parties.

Comment?
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Aly when the day arrives and you realized how wrong you were about your employers the real question will be -

Will you apologize an say you were wrong?
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Since it's my thread, why don't you respeond to the image of the Players Ball being used still to promote Internext parties.

Comment?
Actually, I am responding. I'm now in the process of having someone go through and make sure we remove all pictures from any Players Balls. As I said, I have no issue with you so I'm perfectly happy to comply.
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Aly when the day arrives and you realized how wrong you were about your employers the real question will be -

Will you apologize an say you were wrong?

Wrong about what, KB? Wrong about using my own head to make my own decisions based on my own experience? I'm not likely to apologise for that, no.
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Actually, I am responding. I'm now in the process of having someone go through and make sure we remove all pictures from any Players Balls. As I said, I have no issue with you so I'm perfectly happy to comply.


There should never be any confusion or misrepresentation when it comes to that site and our Players Ball
When AVN wants to make right with the best employee they ever had, then I'd be willing to shut the fuck up about this show or doing any future Players Balls with AVN.

It really is an easy fix- Your bastard bosses feel they need to kick a woman when she is down.

I'll never stand for that-
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And now that I have peoples attention, here's some more juice I've been holding back since AVN fired my wife Jennifer.

At the very end of her employment, they put Jennifer through pure hell. Not only did she work over times hours and pull all nighters getting her job done, they also threw extra bullshit work on her plate to try and trip her up so they could find a reason to terminate her, in my opinion.

They gave her crazy new job duties and a bunch of projects that was never asked of her in 9 years of employment.

I watched Jennifer work all day and night so she could keep her job, she did everything reasonably possible and in the end they still fired her.

That's the part that hurts me the most, working her to death with unreal expectation and seeing her do it, then get fucked over anyway.

Aly, care to repond?
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Wrong about what, KB? Wrong about using my own head to make my own decisions based on my own experience? I'm not likely to apologise for that, no.
Ask your buddy Tom Hymes if he was right or wrong about his suspicions


Not dragging Tom into this but he was brainwashed as well
Then again he has a family to support and mouths to feed so some people eat shit because they have to-

I see you fitting in better with a program that ever webmaster needs like content or 2257 compliance-

That's where a person of your stature in this biz needs to be- helping people who truly need help
not helping rich ogres get richer and in return doing nothing for webmasters but the promise of " Branding"

People need your organizational , and verbal skills for the betterment of this business

not superfluous fluff to sell toilet paper sponsorships.
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Absolutely not, no. I don't know the whole story and I doubt I ever will. Your legal issues are for a judge to decide, not me. I will defend neither Jennifer nor AVN on this issue so don't expect me to.
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Absolutely not, no. I don't know the whole story and I doubt I ever will. Your legal issues are for a judge to decide, not me. I will defend neither Jennifer nor AVN on this issue so don't expect me to.
Moral of the story, as long as you're a low wage earner, your job is safe.

As long as you're a woman working for AVN, don't expect any big promotions coming your way.
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Absolutely not, no. I don't know the whole story and I doubt I ever will. Your legal issues are for a judge to decide, not me. I will defend neither Jennifer nor AVN on this issue so don't expect me to.
How about pasing on a message then?
That you CAN surely do

Tell the SCUMBAGS with their own private bathrooms in their office over there (yes their asses are far too precious to share the same space as their neophite employees)
TO PAY JENNIFER AND GET THEIR INFORMATION TO HER ATTORNEY BY 5 OCLOCK TODAY

Thank YOU
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Ask your buddy Tom Hymes if he was right or wrong about his suspicions


Not dragging Tom into this but he was brainwashed as well
Then again he has a family to support and mouths to feed so some people eat shit because they have to-

I see you fitting in better with a program that ever webmaster needs like content or 2257 compliance-

That's where a person of your stature in this biz needs to be- helping people who truly need help
not helping rich ogres get richer and in return doing nothing for webmasters but the promise of " Branding"

People need your organizational , and verbal skills for the betterment of this business

not superfluous fluff to sell toilet paper sponsorships.

Genuinely, I appreciate your kind words there. Thanks! I can always look after myself very well, KB (and I only need to worry about bringing home kibble!) so I'll be fine.
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Identity, they still want people to believe the Players Ball is still a part of their party scene.

Check out the middle pic of Snoop from the Players Ball.


http://www.internextconference.com/parties/index.shtml

do they even have permission to use that? isn't the players ball a private party?
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Moral of the story, as long as you're a low wage earner, your job is safe.

As long as you're a woman, don't expect any big promotions coming your way.

Thanks for the advice.
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Genuinely, I appreciate your kind words there. Thanks! I can always look after myself very well, KB (and I only need to worry about bringing home kibble!) so I'll be fine.

Kibble is cheap
Work real hard,
get pregnant and have a child...
oh wait don't do that

They may find reason to terminate you anyway
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do they even have permission to use that? isn't the players ball a private party?
They never asked me.

I've posted this in public before, this isn't the first time I've posted about this.
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aly, i know you seem to like your job...but jeez, like kb said, you would do so well and climb so much higher with a better company, you really hold your ground well and I admire you for that, but working for avn is like al gore working for fox news, it just ain't right!
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And for the record, I have no personal issues with Aly.

Business is business and personal is personal.
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Naw I mean Common Sense the rapper from Chicago

Common has been getting some insane reviews for his new album BE, mostly produced by Kanye. XXL gave him XXL. I personaly think his best work is on Like Water for Chocolate.
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Old 06-22-2005, 03:54 PM   #143
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I do love THAT Common as well.

I misunderstood earlier.
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Old 06-22-2005, 03:58 PM   #144
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aly, i know you seem to like your job...but jeez, like kb said, you would do so well and climb so much higher with a better company, you really hold your ground well and I admire you for that, but working for avn is like al gore working for fox news, it just ain't right!
Agreed, unless Aly is making $100,000 plus a year I can't see the benefit of her defending slime.

and both Aly and I know how much she is being paid-
and it ain't THAT much
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Old 06-22-2005, 04:01 PM   #145
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Not too far off topic but as a woman I know that every company has its' glass ceiling. Unfortunate, but true. I've hit my head a few times.
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Old 06-22-2005, 04:02 PM   #146
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do they even have permission to use that? isn't the players ball a private party?
Just to clarify this, Internext is legally allowed to take and use photos from all officially recognized events thrown in conjunction with the show. If you have any questions about this, feel free to contact the creative director: brandon at avn dot com.

That said... that pic should be down any second now.
Thanks.
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Old 06-22-2005, 04:05 PM   #147
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aly, i know you seem to like your job...but jeez, like kb said, you would do so well and climb so much higher with a better company, you really hold your ground well and I admire you for that, but working for avn is like al gore working for fox news, it just ain't right!
That was very witty! haha....! Very good.

Okay, duly noted, guys. Thanks.
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That was very witty! haha....! Very good.

Okay, duly noted, guys. Thanks.

Fox News is hiring?
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Just to clarify this, Internext is legally allowed to take and use photos from all officially recognized events thrown in conjunction with the show. If you have any questions about this, feel free to contact the creative director: brandon at avn dot com.

That said... that pic should be down any second now.
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Sorry Dah-ling, you're wrong.

My pass specifies that only D-Money Productions and approved parties have that right.

I gave no approval. I don't have any contract with AVN which states they could use that pic.

But not to worry, I've never made an issue about it and I really don't care that much. Just pointing it out when someone touched upon an identity issue with AVN.
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