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Old 06-24-2005, 03:24 PM   #101
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Old 06-24-2005, 03:25 PM   #102
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i bet most people wished they got into the business when they were in highschool. if you ask me, starting off eally is an advanatge....
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Old 06-24-2005, 03:28 PM   #103
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Roger is right.

Sorry you hate me Evan, we are just debating.

AJ, mfm says the pic is gone.


Have a nice weekend, Im out of here.
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Old 06-24-2005, 03:28 PM   #104
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now you hate me as well?
no not at all. i feel sorry for you wasting your talent like this. no offense.
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Old 06-24-2005, 03:29 PM   #105
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Sorry you hate me Evan, we are just debating.

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Have a nice weekend, Im out of here.
do not confuse me calling your comparisons "poor" with hate. that is fake drama.
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How much does a bottle of Cristal cost and is it any good?

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Old 06-24-2005, 03:37 PM   #107
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Old 06-24-2005, 03:38 PM   #108
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Shok, you are wrong about server issues. Google could have indexed the pages he posted. It was public info.
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Old 06-24-2005, 03:40 PM   #110
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Sorry you hate me Evan, we are just debating.

AJ, mfm says the pic is gone.


Have a nice weekend, Im out of here.
Appreciated..

my issue is resolved with this.

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Shok, you are wrong about server issues. Google could have indexed the pages he posted. It was public info.
How would Google have found the url if it was never public though? If someone had a link to it and that page was in Google and the spider crawled through the links, then its no longer private, but this wasn't the case.

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Old 06-24-2005, 04:07 PM   #112
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How would Google have found the url if it was never public though? If someone had a link to it and that page was in Google and the spider crawled through the links, then its no longer private, but this wasn't the case.

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if its not protected, linked to or not, its public. period.
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How would Google have found the url if it was never public though? If someone had a link to it and that page was in Google and the spider crawled through the links, then its no longer private, but this wasn't the case.

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Easy it could ban all spiders from it but it would still allow surfers to visit.
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Old 06-24-2005, 04:11 PM   #114
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if its not protected, linked to or not, its public. period.
I disagree with that. If its not published anywhere (ie: not findable through a public resource such as Google or other site), then I tend to think its private.

Is there any legal cases or presedences regarding this type of issue that anyone knows of? Certainly poses an interesting topic if anybody has litigated over private links like this.

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Old 06-24-2005, 07:55 PM   #115
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Bah! Cristal is only $300 a fucking bottle. What a joke... I thought it must be like a few grand or something otherwise people wouldn't talk about it much.
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fris then if you feel you did not do any thing illegal to do what you did then explain what you did
you said he didnt set permissions
How did you know that? How did you find anything you did? it was not listed on an index.html im sure
you had to do some sort of exploit to figure this out

You set out to do this
you did not do this by accident
you sat at your computer telling your self you wanted to find a weakness in the shaw servers and you did

congrats

you are going to get fucked

I dont care who your brother is and that what I say could jepordize our friendship but you are just being a fucking idiot
you need to face the facts that brad has the money to sue you and he will

I dont give two shits about brad but I know what he can do and what he will do

he wont have to explain a god damn thing
he has people do it FOR HIM

Fris you are in over your head now

back down - admit your " owning " him was stupid to bring to the public eye.
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Old 06-24-2005, 08:38 PM   #117
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brad - you're forgetting the #1 rule in suing someone - they have to actually HAVE something worth suing for before you can sue them.

these trolls can do whatever they want - they have nothing.
Actually the #1 rule is that you have to actually have a legit reason to sue them in the first place.
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Old 06-24-2005, 08:42 PM   #118
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I disagree with that. If its not published anywhere (ie: not findable through a public resource such as Google or other site), then I tend to think its private.

Is there any legal cases or presedences regarding this type of issue that anyone knows of? Certainly poses an interesting topic if anybody has litigated over private links like this.

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but what if google spiders it? IS google liable because you didn't have a link to that page on your public site?

It's like leaving your window open in your house, IF you dont want people to stand on the sidewalk and peak in then you should shut your curtains. It certainly is not a hack. Hacking someone is breaking in. Accusing someone of hacking when all they did was post an open link is liable IMO. I am not the sueing type but i would counter sue someone's ass off if I was in Fris' position.
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Old 06-24-2005, 08:46 PM   #119
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Bradshaw, I love the name of this thread. Cracks me up everytime I read it. Love you or hate you everyone has to agree you know how to push the buttons. ROFLMAO
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but what if google spiders it? IS google liable because you didn't have a link to that page on your public site?

It's like leaving your window open in your house, IF you dont want people to stand on the sidewalk and peak in then you should shut your curtains. It certainly is not a hack. Hacking someone is breaking in. Accusing someone of hacking when all they did was post an open link is liable IMO. I am not the sueing type but i would counter sue someone's ass off if I was in Fris' position.

I believe (my opinion only here), that once the url is posted in a public area (such as a webpage which is searchable by Google for example), its now public information. Whether or not these urls were public knowledge before fris' post is the interesting part.

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Old 06-24-2005, 09:22 PM   #121
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but what if google spiders it? IS google liable because you didn't have a link to that page on your public site?

It's like leaving your window open in your house, IF you dont want people to stand on the sidewalk and peak in then you should shut your curtains. It certainly is not a hack. Hacking someone is breaking in. Accusing someone of hacking when all they did was post an open link is liable IMO. I am not the sueing type but i would counter sue someone's ass off if I was in Fris' position.
Unless you have a link to that page google CANT spider it.

S.E.O 101 basic knowledge.

Google needs someone to link to that page for it to follow.
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Old 06-24-2005, 09:34 PM   #123
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i might be mistaken, but i think perfect10 sued them also and ended up with a banner placement for a year o something?

i had a lengthy conversation with Leo's host back in 2000 after my site got hit by ultrapasswords

i learned alot about password sites, never really seen them as a problem, just another source of traffic to fuck with
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Old 06-24-2005, 09:41 PM   #124
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If you think I play games and only talk, talk to Leo. I sued him, and went after him for 2+ years. In the end, I got the last laugh as usual.

Has anyone else every sued a password site? Everyone talks about it, I did it and obtained a $$financial$$ settlement.
So what you''re saying is you like to cry about things a lot and you have some money to back you up.

Who really gives a fuck what you do? You have a big name around the boards because you have a bunch of money. Daddy's money doesn't buy respect and it's pretty easy to see you are lacking any respect around here.

You act like a dick, you are one of the few people on these boards that I can't stand. Simply because everything out of your mouth is either about how much money you have, or you talking down to someone.

Grow up.. bottom line is you fucked up, get over it already. You are making yourself look like a fool, every time you post more about this. Anyone with a brain knows Fris didn't hack shit and that your sever had more holes in it than my worn out smelly ass socks.
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All I know is none of this has to do with ES cause its the shit.

and all this shit talking going back and fourth is lame.
Roger.... would you be interested in a free security audit since its the shit?
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greg is a pussy ball-licker sell-out. don't let his diplomacy fool you. at the end of the day, he is brad's bitch so no matter how nice he is, he still is a bitch.
Now I have said some pretty crazy shit on the boards in my time.
But your post relaxes me.

Alas I know someone needs more therapy than I do.
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Roger.... would you be interested in a free security audit since its the shit?
Not likely.
Ya would love to get your hands on the whole code wouldnt ya bottom feeder? I notice now you have asked a few different ES clients the same question.

I would reccomend Brad keep an eye on you...
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Ya would love to get your hands on the whole code wouldnt ya bottom feeder? I notice now you have asked a few different ES clients the same question.

I would reccomend Brad keep an eye on you...
No.. if I wanted it I would already had it. Im offering a free service. I like how you got from sucking my dick from one week to talking smack. Maybe Brad wil take you to the FBI on his next visit.
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My point of this thread is that is kids think I do not take hacking serious, ask Leo. I still have a copy of his tax records that I obtained through court order.
The only problem is that Leo actually did something illegal. In the "other" case currently attracting a lot of attention, there was NO hacking involved. Atleast, by what was stated on this board.

That's unless ofcourse you have secret magic logs that no one mentioned yet
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Shall be interesting to see if Bradshaw will come back when he gets his ass handed in court and apologize to fris
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Not likely.
Ya would love to get your hands on the whole code wouldnt ya bottom feeder? I notice now you have asked a few different ES clients the same question.

I would reccomend Brad keep an eye on you...
STOP KISSING ASS

Jesus Fucking Christ... if someones popular on the board or has money.. AlienQ is sucking on their cheeks.

BradShaw.. honestly if fris was kind enough to email you and inform you of the flaw, what would you have done?? nothing , just shrug it off until someone else found the hole, and let them be a little more creative with the information than fris was.

this wasnt a "hack".. you left everything out in the open, and you dont need to know HTML to see that *maybe* Indexes should have been turned off
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congrats

you are going to get fucked

I dont care who your brother is and that what I say could jepordize our friendship but you are just being a fucking idiot
you need to face the facts that brad has the money to sue you and he will
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damn, dont you people sleep, or leave the house, after a long night of drinking i thought you guys would have at least left the house or done something more constructive.

i wish i could monitor the boards 24/7
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