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Old 07-22-2005, 02:50 PM   #51
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Old 07-22-2005, 02:51 PM   #52
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you are so full of shit.

your inital post said 1:44 5k blah blah this month
then 1:800 with epiccams 2 sales 40 bucks

#1 you are lying about you stats with cams.com
#2 you are comparing this month with lars to 4 motnhs ago with epiccams.

which leads me to beleive that you are not posting this months stats at all with lars, but most likely posting stats from lars for the last 5 months combined, and you are lying about your ratio.

epiccams converts just as good if not better than cams.com and thats been posted on here multiple times.

you are a lying russian scumbag
You are right about the second point. I compared Lars this month, with epiccams in march/april. Same traffic source tho. But maybe it's the summer slow down that make ppl join cams, and when it was cold they did not feel like joining. Who knows.

Oh btw, funny that you ask ppl to post stats, and when they do you start calling them names. And I'm from the Netherlands btw. But of you wanna call me a stupid Russian that's fine.

Have a nice day/weekend sir.
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You're lying your fucking ass off. EpicCash converts like fire. Fuck the bullshit.

You talk just as rude as pimpdog. Makes you wonder...Or are stupid people just like that?
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800 a day for your top guy... and you'll sell for 3 M? wtf?

im not nor ever was selling epiccash. it was a joke. anytime i make a post that I am selling something, I am not selling it.

i am an attention whore. always will be.

EpicCash is a goldmine
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whats lars got for me?
Pimp, how advanced is your backend? Do you guys offer an API? Most, if not all, programs really lack when it comes to more advanced features.

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You are right about the second point. I compared Lars this month, with epiccams in march/april. Same traffic source tho. But maybe it's the summer slow down that make ppl join cams, and when it was cold they did not feel like joining. Who knows.

Oh btw, funny that you ask ppl to post stats, and when they do you start calling them names. And I'm from the Netherlands btw. But of you wanna call me a stupid Russian that's fine.

Have a nice day/weekend sir.

my point was that you have always hated epiccash and 'pimpdog' and do whatever you can anytime you can do it to slam me or my program. like you are doign now.

the dif is kiddo, that you are promoting, im paying. you couldnt be responsible for millions of dollars if your mothers life depended on it.

I dont like you. go away.

you are the only shitbag that has posted stats.. and yes i hate you and want you dead asap. so YOU are the one i am calling names. not anyone else... yet...
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my point was that you have always hated epiccash and 'pimpdog' and do whatever you can anytime you can do it to slam me or my program. like you are doign now.

the dif is kiddo, that you are promoting, im paying. you couldnt be responsible for millions of dollars if your mothers life depended on it.

I dont like you. go away.

you are the only shitbag that has posted stats.. and yes i hate you and want you dead asap. so YOU are the one i am calling names. not anyone else... yet...
I never liked YOU. But like you said, that doesn't mean epiccash is bad. SO I gave it a try. And it turned out it was bad as well. You asked to post stats, I did. No don't start crying. Next time, ask please post stats if we do GREAT for you. That was you will avoid this.

Also if I want to stay, I stay. Come on who are you? I maybe make even more then you.

Thanks for your deadwish, I feel so terrible now
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Old 07-22-2005, 03:06 PM   #61
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for the retarded. look at the address bar. thats their sales so fa

fuck it i cant get this to work, gimmie a minute to load up photoshop to edit a few things
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Old 07-22-2005, 03:09 PM   #62
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$32725 x 30 = $981750 x 12 = $11.8 million a year.

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for the retarded. look at the address bar. thats their sales so fa

fuck it i cant get this to work, gimmie a minute to load up photoshop to edit a few things
Haha, what was wrong?
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let me guess?

You showed the total 1 july untill 24 july?

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fuck it i cant get this to work, gimmie a minute to load up photoshop to edit a few things
Oh, was that for July so far???
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Oh, was that for July so far???

Looks like it. We will see what he will post now. I saved his "old" image....
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$1364 a day isn't bad pimpdog, don't be ashamed.
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Ok guy what does that equate to $$$$


800 sales makes him how much money ? this is for epic cams correct ?
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$1364 a day isn't bad pimpdog, don't be ashamed.

1364 a day? wtf you talking about?


i posted a screen cap of 1 affiliate that did 550 something sales but without revealing all the other numbers, i need to figure out what to post that is relative to this thread.

the sales were for today not for the month. even though i did a monthly search, since thats how my stats work.


even if it was 800 a month from my top affiliate, lets just assume thats what it is... Im sure its alot more than cams.com or any other program here.

so either way, I posted stats and you can jump to your own conclusions as gfy usually does anyways.
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Whatever, I really don't care about any of this, I got sucked into this thread.

They both look like good programs and I wish you both luck.
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1364 a day? wtf you talking about?


i posted a screen cap of 1 affiliate that did 550 something sales but without revealing all the other numbers, i need to figure out what to post that is relative to this thread.

the sales were for today not for the month. even though i did a monthly search, since thats how my stats work.


even if it was 800 a month from my top affiliate, lets just assume thats what it is... Im sure its alot more than cams.com or any other program here.

so either way, I posted stats and you can jump to your own conclusions as gfy usually does anyways.
Strange system you work with...Startdate 01 end date 24. And it shows only one day.
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Whatever, I really don't care about any of this, I got sucked into this thread.

They both look like good programs and I wish you both luck.

Just try www.cams.com and see for yourself how good it does
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Pimp you still running the prechecked cross sales and exit chains on epiccams? Why would anyone promote epiccams when they can push the exact same backend (streamate) with the same promo material and higher payouts on the "free" join at wegcash and mtree?
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even if it was 800 a month from my top affiliate, lets just assume thats what it is... Im sure its alot more than cams.com or any other program here.
800 signups a month is not more then any other cam affiliate program here.

what kind of crack you smoking man. I get on average 500 - 700 signups an average week with clickcash. I had over 2,700 signups last month June and made over 175K for the month. How much did your top guy on epic cams make last month?
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Pimp you still running the prechecked cross sales and exit chains on epiccams? Why would anyone promote epiccams when they can push the exact same backend (streamate) with the same promo material and higher payouts on the "free" join at wegcash and mtree?

maybe becasue we offer higher payouts, no pre checked cross sales and 1$ and free join options with multiple tours?

i dunno. justa hunch.
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800 signups a month is not more then any other cam affiliate program here.

what kind of crack you smoking man. I get on average 500 - 700 signups an average week with clickcash. I had over 2,700 signups last month June and made over 175K for the month. How much did your top guy on epic cams make last month?

68k or was it 230k or maybe it was 12k

i forget
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68k or was it 230k or maybe it was 12k

i forget

nice side step so i take it it is less then what i made from your response.

so were you serious when you said all other cam sites were shit ?
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nice side step so i take it it is less then what i made from your response.
Don't you think it's funny that he was about to change his print screen, but I saved it quick, and now he doesn't post the "good" one. To funny. 800 a day becomes 552 in 24 days.
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maybe becasue we offer higher payouts, no pre checked cross sales and 1$ and free join options with multiple tours?

i dunno. justa hunch.
higher payouts ?

for epic cams i see you pay *UP TO* $50 a $1 join. ClickCash pays from $45 - $80 for the same type of joins.
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Don't you think it's funny that he was about to change his print screen, but I saved it quick, and now he doesn't post the "good" one. To funny. 800 a day becomes 552 in 24 days.
Im just curious how much 800 sales a day would = in cash from sales on his site. Lets just say that the person made $30 per signup that would be 720,000 a month. funny on another thread he said he was pushing 400K+ a month from cams. something doesnt add up.
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maybe becasue we offer higher payouts, no pre checked cross sales and 1$ and free join options with multiple tours?

i dunno. justa hunch.
Wrong on the payouts, Epic pays $15/ free cam join, your affiliate has to do 40 sales per period to finally get to $25/ average on the free join. Mtree and Weg pay out $25/ free cam join, from the very first sale promoting the exact same content and backend. You can continue to try and fool the noobs and those that don't know the cam biz, but you have some of the shittiest payouts within the cam niche and you actually have the gall to bag on another cam program.
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Wrong on the payouts, Epic pays $15/ free cam join, your affiliate has to do 40 sales per period to finally get to $25/ average on the free join. Mtree and Weg pay out $25/ free cam join, from the very first sale promoting the exact same content and backend. You can continue to try and fool the noobs and those that don't know the cam biz, but you have some of the shittiest payouts within the cam niche and you actually have the gall to bag on another cam program.

its what i do best smoke and mirrors scumbag
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higher payouts ?

for epic cams i see you pay *UP TO* $50 a $1 join. ClickCash pays from $45 - $80 for the same type of joins.



william smith

your crappy teamclickcash all it does is pool all the normal clickcash affiliates together and sends to one main acct, and you get the referals from it. it was doing great till your partners fucked you and i got fucked too indirectly by you.


you people want to trust this guy with your money?
he was my neighbor, we flew r/c airplanes together, i sold him some chatroom spam software, he sold me a laptop etc etc. do neighbors usually let their 'friends' get fucked over by their partners? Cal pulled a fast on in the end that you still dont even know about to this day.. I never told you cause i felt you deserved it.

teamclickcash makes noone any more money than clickcash does. let me dig up all of spunkmedia's pages and post them here. hold up

they convert great feel free to use them
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Wrong on the payouts, Epic pays $15/ free cam join, your affiliate has to do 40 sales per period to finally get to $25/ average on the free join. Mtree and Weg pay out $25/ free cam join, from the very first sale promoting the exact same content and backend. You can continue to try and fool the noobs and those that don't know the cam biz, but you have some of the shittiest payouts within the cam niche and you actually have the gall to bag on another cam program.
Wow, that does suck. I couldn't tell from the site because they only advertise the *up to* amount you can make which was $50 per sale. I didn't see where it said you start off at $15 per sale. It always bothered me when companies advertise heavy on the *up to* amount you can make. Lets be realistic how many of your webmasters even reach that pay level.

So epic cams is $15 - $50

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Not doing it too good if you're shit just got called out in the open.
I didnt get called out at all. not a single one of you know exactly how many sales a day we do on any 1 of our programs. i posted a screen cap of 1 acct, that not a single one of you can prove a single thing about other than make assumptions.

wether its was 552 sales today or all month. it was one acct. more than 90% of you will make this year

if i have 2k affiliates pushing epiccams lets say and they all do 3 sales a day thats 180k sales amonth

realistic?

you decide.
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Old 07-22-2005, 04:12 PM   #89
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hardly different from your crappy teamscamcash will76

clickcash shaves. and you KNOW this. You shows me the shave software when you were running that other affiliate program for clickcash thats identical to teamclickcash
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yes thats right. I was at will's house one night around 2am, and he was bragging about how he was making so much money and showed me the inside of his affiliate area and showed me his shave machine.

wonder why the ratios suck and all hits are not counted? ask will. id love to see his answer.
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Wow, that does suck. I couldn't tell from the site because they only advertise the *up to* amount you can make which was $50 per sale. I didn't see where it said you start off at $15 per sale. It always bothered me when companies advertise heavy on the *up to* amount you can make. Lets be realistic how many of your webmasters even reach that pay level.

So epic cams is $15 - $50

ClickCash:
1 - 10: $40
11 - 50: $45
55 - 100: $50
101 - 250: $55
On top of that, its $5 less per sale for the non console, so now we're down to $10/ non console free join when comparing to his competition. Yep, as Pimp said, he's all smoke and mirrors. Epiccams is the worst pay per join cam program out there. If you're promoting them you're leaving a lot of money in Pimp's pocket that should be in yours.
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Joins Per Period 1-10 11-20 21-30 31-50 51-100 101 +
Payout Per Join $20 $25 $35 $40 $45 $50

hardly different from your crappy teamscamcash will76

clickcash shaves. and you KNOW this. You shows me the shave software when you were running that other affiliate program for clickcash thats identical to teamclickcash
Try comparing apples to apples, those aren't your payouts for the nonconsole "free" join. Below is what you payout:

Joins Per Period 1-10 11-20 21-30 31-50 51-100 101 +
Payout Per Join $10 $15 $25 $30 $35 $40

So based on those payouts, one would have to do 65 joins per period just to reach an average of $25/ free non console join vs the $25 payout mtree and wegcash payout from the very first free non console join promoting the exact same tours and backend. Less than 5% of your affiliates pushing your cams are doing over 65/joins per period, does the other 95% realize how much you are fucking them over?
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your crappy teamclickcash all it does is pool all the normal clickcash affiliates together and sends to one main acct, and you get the referals from it. it was doing great till your partners fucked you and i got fucked too indirectly by you.


you people want to trust this guy with your money?
he was my neighbor, we flew r/c airplanes together, i sold him some chatroom spam software, he sold me a laptop etc etc. do neighbors usually let their 'friends' get fucked over by their partners? Cal pulled a fast on in the end that you still dont even know about to this day.. I never told you cause i felt you deserved it.

teamclickcash makes noone any more money than clickcash does. let me dig up all of spunkmedia's pages and post them here. hold up

they convert great feel free to use them



Lars this guy is priceless, now i see why you guys like his threads soo much. I couldn't pay 10K dollars in advertising for this type of exposure.

I think you have me confused with someone else pal. Possibly you are talking about Volume Brokers or another site like that? I was never your neighbor, hell I don't even know where you live. You DO NOT know who i am i can assure you of that.

First of all You can ask anyone who is a team clickcash member here and they will tell you that we DO NOT pool sales. My stats which I have posted here is WHAT I MAKE and has nothing to do with team clickcash. All of the people who refer me all have their OWN accounts. Crazy concept we all work together and help each other out even though we have our own accounts.

TeamClickCash is a webmaster resource site for ClickCash Webmasters who signuped up and referred me. I make 10% webmaster referral period from team clickcash. I help them by providing the following:

Provide promotional material such as free hosted site, banners, and ads. Free hosted galleries, geo targeted ads, full blown sites like www.camgirlfinder.com www.webcam-search-by-city.com etc. I also have chathost from ifriends on my site that chat with webmasters and make custom content for them like:
http://www.teamclickcash.com/content.../69sunny69.wmv
http://www.teamclickcash.com/content.../coedkitty.wmv
(both girls are on teamclickcash and produced this content, which the greeting was my idea, for teamclickcash members to use)

I will make any ad/promo that someone needs. I have full time programmer and designer on staff to make ads for members. I offer a lot of advice and tips on what works best with clickcash and how to make the most money with them. I offer advanced tracking software so you can track your sales 10x better. I provide 24/7 *general* support for anything that i can help with it.I have a link generator feature.I have a messageboard were we all can interact and help each other out. I offer free hosting for your sites, the list goes on.

All of this and i only make money if they make money. I and I get paid my 10% from clickcash, it is 100% free to the affiliate.

Now you know how my site works.
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Pimpledog. Why should we trust you? You say you convert great. Well my stats show different

You say your top affiliates do 800 joins a day. Then I quickly saved your image(while you removed it) and it shows they do 5whatever hundred sales in 24 days.

Lol anyone that takes you serious is brainwashed or stupid
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yes thats right. I was at will's house one night around 2am, and he was bragging about how he was making so much money and showed me the inside of his affiliate area and showed me his shave machine.

wonder why the ratios suck and all hits are not counted? ask will. id love to see his answer.

WTF ARE YOU TALKNG ABOUT FOOOL ? you do not know me.
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Is this thread still going? Holy cow.

Just for comparison, here's the cams.com PPS breakdown:

1-10 sales gets them $50 PPS

11-40 sales gets them $60 PPS

41-70 sales gets them $70 PPS

71-200 sales gets them $80 PPS

201-400 sales gets them $90 PPS

401-600 sales gets them $100 PPS

601-700 sales gets them $110 PPS

701-800 sales gets them $120 PPS

801-900+ sales gets them $130 PPS
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[QUOTE=p1mpdogg]I didnt get called out at all. not a single one of you know exactly how many sales a day we do on any 1 of our programs. i posted a screen cap of 1 acct, that not a single one of you can prove a single thing about other than make assumptions.

wether its was 552 sales today or all month. it was one acct. more than 90% of you will make this year

if i have 2k affiliates pushing epiccams lets say and they all do 3 sales a day thats 180k sales amonth

realistic?

you decide


No need to make assumptions. You said it yourself here: http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/477186-cams-com-sucks.html post #105 you said:

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post something funny, or some pics. something not about your lame ass cams. i have cams doing 400+k a month, and im not spouting off to all of gfy about it all day long.
I made almost half that for June, just from ME, MYSELF, I alone, no pooled traffic shit like you are talking about and that you think you know me. IF i did half of what cams section did then I don't think what you did was too impressive. I am just one affiliate and no one special, even though you think you know me. lol
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Is this thread still going? Holy cow.

Just for comparison, here's the cams.com PPS breakdown:

1-10 sales gets them $50 PPS

11-40 sales gets them $60 PPS

41-70 sales gets them $70 PPS

71-200 sales gets them $80 PPS

201-400 sales gets them $90 PPS

401-600 sales gets them $100 PPS

601-700 sales gets them $110 PPS

701-800 sales gets them $120 PPS

801-900+ sales gets them $130 PPS
Is that per day?
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Is this thread still going? Holy cow.

Just for comparison, here's the cams.com PPS breakdown:

1-10 sales gets them $50 PPS

11-40 sales gets them $60 PPS

41-70 sales gets them $70 PPS

71-200 sales gets them $80 PPS

201-400 sales gets them $90 PPS

401-600 sales gets them $100 PPS

601-700 sales gets them $110 PPS

701-800 sales gets them $120 PPS

801-900+ sales gets them $130 PPS
yes but they have to actually spend money, what $25 for you to make that. From my experience you can get 4x more people to join for free w/credit card then you can to pay $25 from the same amount of traffic. People can do the math or try it out for themselves. you will see you will get a lot more signups when they person does not have to spend money when they signup.

You can't compare that pay scale equally to a free signup w/credit card program, just as you can't compare a free signup w/credit card to a free signup w/ email program.
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