Bible And Quranic Study On The Topic Of War/Fighting - GoFuckYourself.com

Platinum Lantern · 08-16-2005, 06:45 PM

Think about this, in relation to the war in Iraq:
This by no means me attempting to down today's version of Christianity entirely.

BIBLE:
"And the Lord said, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:

9:6 Slay utterly old [and] young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom [is] the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the elderly men who [were] before the house.

9:7 And he said to them, Defile the house, and fill the courts with the slain: go ye forth. And they went forth, and slew in the city.

Ezek. 9:5-7

Qur'an:
[60:8]

"GOD does not enjoin you from befriending those who do not fight you because of religion, and do not evict you from your homes. You may befriend them and be equitable towards them. GOD loves the equitable. "

"If they withdraw from you and fight you not, but (instead) send you (guarantees of) peace, then God alloweth no way for you (to war against them)" (4:90).

"If the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God" (8:61)

boneprone · 08-16-2005, 06:46 PM

Who you like in the NFL this upcoming season?

Platinum Lantern · 08-16-2005, 06:48 PM

Wassup My Brother From Oregon

I don't have a pick for this year, but I can tell you what team is going to lose A LOT of games and that is the Dallas Cowboys, I saw Bledsoe in preseason game (didn't perform well AT ALL).

Stopped gambling pretty much cold turkey, best 2nd best decision I've made this year.

FunkMachine · 08-16-2005, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platinum Lantern

Think about this, in relation to the war in Iraq:
This by no means me attempting to down today's version of Christianity entirely.

BIBLE:
"And the Lord said, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:

9:6 Slay utterly old [and] young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom [is] the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the elderly men who [were] before the house.

9:7 And he said to them, Defile the house, and fill the courts with the slain: go ye forth. And they went forth, and slew in the city.

Ezek. 9:5-7

Qur'an:
[60:8]

"GOD does not enjoin you from befriending those who do not fight you because of religion, and do not evict you from your homes. You may befriend them and be equitable towards them. GOD loves the equitable. "

"If they withdraw from you and fight you not, but (instead) send you (guarantees of) peace, then God alloweth no way for you (to war against them)" (4:90).

"If the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God" (8:61)

Lol, how naive.

thaifan99 · 08-16-2005, 07:02 PM

Read the bible code....the sky will fall in soon!

rickholio · 08-16-2005, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platinum Lantern

Think about this, in relation to the war in Iraq:
This by no means me attempting to down today's version of Christianity entirely.

BIBLE:
"And the Lord said, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:

9:6 Slay utterly old [and] young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom [is] the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the elderly men who [were] before the house.

9:7 And he said to them, Defile the house, and fill the courts with the slain: go ye forth. And they went forth, and slew in the city.

Ezek. 9:5-7

Qur'an:
[60:8]

"GOD does not enjoin you from befriending those who do not fight you because of religion, and do not evict you from your homes. You may befriend them and be equitable towards them. GOD loves the equitable. "

"If they withdraw from you and fight you not, but (instead) send you (guarantees of) peace, then God alloweth no way for you (to war against them)" (4:90).

"If the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God" (8:61)

Ezekiel has all kinds of fire and brimstone and war. Remember ezekiel 25:17's "Great vengeance and furious anger" stuff.

You are still dealing with O.T. stuff there though, when yahweh was an angry, vengful god that'd strike down the uncircumsized with plagues and disease and shit. JC came around and started telling everyone to be nice to each other.

In both cases, it only shows that anyone who claims to be christian/moslem and harbours hate towards anyone is a hypocrite... and the more public they are about touting their 'faith' the more likely they are to be the worst example of that faith. "Praise the lord and pass the ammo" faux-christians would just be pathetically laughable if they weren't so heavily armed, rather than the blight on the planet they currently are. Ditto for hatemongering 'death to the infidel' faux-moslems.

Seems like all the religions making shit on the planet right now are ones based on the Old Testament though. You don't see too many people killed in the name of vishnu, or bombs for buddha.

mardigras · 08-16-2005, 08:39 PM

Those are the 2 that would be great to revive INXS. Some great singers male and female in this competition (Rockstar: INXS). Do you watch this show? Who do you like?

mardigras · 08-16-2005, 08:47 PM

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Those are the 2 that would be great to revive INXS. Some great singers male and female in this competition (Rockstar: INXS). Do you watch this show? Who do you like?

Damn... could have sworn I clicked NEW THREAD

PixeLs · 08-16-2005, 09:13 PM

This thread gives me a headache.
"will you hit it" thread please.

jayeff · 08-16-2005, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Platinum Lantern

9:6 Slay utterly old [and] young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom [is] the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the elderly men who [were] before the house...

It is paradoxical that many "Christian" fundamentalists in the US all but reject the teachings of Christ himself, in favor of the fire and brimstone of the Old Testament. But although these people tend to be very vocal and influential here, don't lose site of the reality that they are only a small part of the global Christian population.

That said, when it comes to being sent to war, it doesn't make much practical difference whether or not someone believes their bible sanctions their actions. To stay in business, religious institutions the world over have accomodated themselves to the needs of state for centuries and few individuals are willing to test their morality against authority. In fact, Israel is the only country I know of in which large number of soldiers have been willing to go to prison rather than obey what they consider to be immoral orders.

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Platinum Lantern Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 1,564	Bible And Quranic Study On The Topic Of War/Fighting Think about this, in relation to the war in Iraq: This by no means me attempting to down today's version of Christianity entirely. BIBLE: "And the Lord said, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity: 9:6 Slay utterly old [and] young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom [is] the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the elderly men who [were] before the house. 9:7 And he said to them, Defile the house, and fill the courts with the slain: go ye forth. And they went forth, and slew in the city. Ezek. 9:5-7 Qur'an: [60:8] "GOD does not enjoin you from befriending those who do not fight you because of religion, and do not evict you from your homes. You may befriend them and be equitable towards them. GOD loves the equitable. " "If they withdraw from you and fight you not, but (instead) send you (guarantees of) peace, then God alloweth no way for you (to war against them)" (4:90). "If the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God" (8:61) __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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