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Old 08-17-2005, 08:10 AM   #1
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:mad ITV video shows UK police LIED about man they shot on train

Footage Contradicts London Police Report
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A Brazilian shot to death a day after botched bombings in London had walked casually onto a train before being gunned down by undercover officers
He also did not have on a bulky jacket or any kind of belt that might have been mistaken for explosives as they had claimed...

Now, anyone here that said he got what he deserved want to argue it again?

I told you what they were saying didn't make sense.
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Old 08-17-2005, 08:13 AM   #2
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Some Police men in every country get trigger happy ... they feel that if they are the ones who shoot the "bad" guy they will become heroes.

These guys are complete assholes .. and there is no escaping them. It doesnt matter where you are ... you will still come accross them.

Its a shame ...
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Old 08-17-2005, 08:15 AM   #3
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You guys need to STFU! you run...you DIE! get the fuckin picture?!

Gotta get on their level......
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Old 08-17-2005, 08:16 AM   #4
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You guys need to STFU! you run...you DIE! get the fuckin picture?!
You need to READ. The video shows he DID NOT run...
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You guys need to STFU! you run...you DIE! get the fuckin picture?!

Gotta get on their level......
You need to STFU read the article?
Where does it say he ran anywhere.
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So i suppose they just picked this poor fucker out of a crowd and killed him?
Riiiight....
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So i suppose they just picked this poor fucker out of a crowd and killed him?
Riiiight....
Exactly, could have been YOU ... Too bad it wasn't
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So i suppose they just picked this poor fucker out of a crowd and killed him?
Riiiight....
No.. it's because he lived in the same apartment block as a suspect (along with a couple hundred other people)
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So i suppose they just picked this poor fucker out of a crowd and killed him?
Riiiight....
"Sir Ian Blair, the Metropolitan Police commissioner, called the death regrettable, but said it appeared ``the man was challenged and refused to obey police instructions.''

Citing security footage, a British television station reported Tuesday that Menezes entered the Stockwell subway station at a normal walking pace, stopping to pick up a newspaper before boarding a train and taking a seat.

The ITV News broadcast, citing an investigation report into the shooting, also said Menezes was wearing a light denim jacket when he was shot seven times in the head and once in the shoulder. Witness reports described a terrifying scene of the man - wearing a bulky jacket on a warm July day - running through the train station, being tackled by a group of undercover police officers, then being shot several times at close range.
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A police spokeswoman also refused to explain what Blair meant when he said it appeared Menezes disobeyed orders. She noted, however, that police never said Menezes had tried to vault the barriers at the Underground station or tried to run from police."
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Old 08-17-2005, 08:24 AM   #10
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Exactly, could have been YOU ... Too bad it wasn't
Yo...when the cops say freeze...i fuckin freeze.....it would never have been me...don't know the language? stay the fuck in your own country!
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This is proof that a shot to kill policy can not be properly implimented. Blair and Bush are utter bullshit, we live under a Facist police regime. It is time to fight back. You will be next.
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Yo...when the cops say freeze...i fuckin freeze.....it would never have been me...don't know the language? stay the fuck in your own country!
Where does it say they ever told him to freeze or had any reason to tell him to freeze?

"``He was not carrying a rucksack. He simply had a denim jacket,'' Wistrich told British Broadcasting Corp. TV. ``Was it necessary to shoot him dead as opposed to trying to confront him at an earlier stage? There was no indication he was about to blow himself up at all.''

ITV News said that, according to the IPCC report, a member of the team that tailed Menezes into the subway train said he heard shouting including the word ``police'' before turning to face the Brazilian.

``He immediately stood up and advanced towards me and the ... officers ... I grabbed the male in the denim jacket by wrapping both my arms around his torso, pinning his arms to his side,'' the unidentified officer was quoted as saying.

``I then pushed him back on to the seat where he had been previously sitting. ... I then heard a gun shot very close to my left ear and was dragged away onto therst shot from a handgun at the Brazilian's head from 12 inches away, according to the report obtained by ITV.

The report also said that, while Menezes was shot eight times, three other bullets were fired but missed."
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Old 08-17-2005, 08:27 AM   #13
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Here he lies dead... doesn't look like suspiciously dressed to me
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It is my hope the government of Brazil press the UK to no end. Brazil is a huge, powerful country with more resources than the UK.
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Old 08-17-2005, 08:29 AM   #15
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Yo...when the cops say freeze...i fuckin freeze.....it would never have been me...don't know the language? stay the fuck in your own country!
Produce one article where the cops yelled freeze...
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You guys are just DYING to blame the fucking police on this...why not place the blame where it fucking BELONGS!!...on the terrorists who started the fucking hysteria in the first place!!!

Oh wait....you just forgot about that because some idiot who can't speak english accidently got shot running from police who were already frazzeled because some fucking degenerate bombers killed 40+ innocent people....

You guys are truly fucking idiots....
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Old 08-17-2005, 08:29 AM   #17
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You guys need to STFU! you run...you DIE! get the fuckin picture?!

Gotta get on their level......

I'm with stupid ^^
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Stop listening to what the cops say they said or did and read the articles about the footage that shows what really happened
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Gotta get on their level......
Another victim of government brainwashing?
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I'm with stupid ^^
You must be... apparently you can't read either
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You guys are just DYING to blame the fucking police on this...why not place the blame where it fucking BELONGS!!...on the terrorists who started the fucking hysteria in the first place!!!

Oh wait....you just forgot about that because some idiot who can't speak english accidently got shot running from police who were already frazzeled because some fucking degenerate bombers killed 40+ innocent people....

You guys are truly fucking idiots....
Sure... ok.
Then how about blaming Bush & Blair for invading Iraq in the 1st place and stirring up this hornet's nest of terrorists.
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Stop listening to what the cops say they said or did and read the articles about the footage that shows what really happened
I don't give a shit what the cops are saying...simple fact is..if there was no bombing...this poor slob would still be alive...get the picture?
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You guys are just DYING to blame the fucking police on this...
No, some of us simply want the truth out.
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You guys are just DYING to blame the fucking police on this...why not place the blame where it fucking BELONGS!!...on the terrorists who started the fucking hysteria in the first place!!!

Oh wait....you just forgot about that because some idiot who can't speak english accidently got shot running from police who were already frazzeled because some fucking degenerate bombers killed 40+ innocent people....

You guys are truly fucking idiots....
Your day as the idiot to be accidently shot is sure to be coming then.
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I don't give a shit what the cops are saying...simple fact is..if there was no bombing...this poor slob would still be alive...get the picture?
So, maybe the NYPD should simply shoot everyone who appears to be foreign
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It was a major fuck up. I cant believe it....

They should charge the guy who let off the rounds with murder and everyone involved in any way needs to be either charged or sacked.
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Then how about blaming Bush & Blair for invading Iraq in the 1st place and stirring up this hornet's nest of terrorists.
So i suppose 9/11 was just an accident?

I am not trying to justiffy the war in Iraq either...Bush just decided to start in the wrong place....but i agree that the situation over there NEEDS to be corrected....plain and simple....Iran is next...then we keep rolling....get with the program....
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Sure... ok.
Then how about blaming Bush & Blair for invading Iraq in the 1st place and stirring up this hornet's nest of terrorists.
I blame Adam and Eve for procreating
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You guys are just DYING to blame the fucking police on this...why not place the blame where it fucking BELONGS!!...on the terrorists who started the fucking hysteria in the first place!!!
It's the terrorists' fault that the police shot an innocent man?

Next time I get a speeding ticket, I'll tell the cops it's the terrorists' fault I was driving too fast.

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hahaha....can't you guys even tell when someone is just stirring the shit?!
Gotta LOVE politics!
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dang.. that's a guy playing with a joystick.. thought it was a crazy guy with his lighter.. lol

Hey Mardigras.. care to explain what you were trying to say!?
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Oh wait....you just forgot about that because some idiot who can't speak english accidently got shot running from police

You guys are truly fucking idiots....
The only idiots in this thread are the ones ignoring the whole point of the thread which is that the video shows the man DID NOT RUN. He was shot sitting in a seat.
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So i suppose 9/11 was just an accident?

I am not trying to justiffy the war in Iraq either...Bush just decided to start in the wrong place....but i agree that the situation over there NEEDS to be corrected....plain and simple....Iran is next...then we keep rolling....get with the program....
No. It wasn't an accident. It was a revenge attack.
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The only idiots in this thread are the ones ignoring the whole point of the thread which is that the video shows the man DID NOT RUN. He was shot sitting in a seat.
Exactly... this was a malicious execution.

They unloaded 7 bullets in this guys head
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everytime i see the videos of 911 i picture guys like you jumping out of the buildings. and it makes me laugh
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You guys are just DYING to blame the fucking police on this...why not place the blame where it fucking BELONGS!!...on the terrorists who started the fucking hysteria in the first place!!!

Oh wait....you just forgot about that because some idiot who can't speak english accidently got shot running from police who were already frazzeled because some fucking degenerate bombers killed 40+ innocent people....

You guys are truly fucking idiots....

It is obvious you didn't bother to read the article. He wasn't running from the police. The video proves it. The police lied about the events to prevent blame for their illegal actions. Please understand... these governments does not have our best interests... they will have have their own first. You want to believe our governments are good that you can't find fault when it is completely evident they abuse their powers. They day we stopped following the Rule of Law, is when the terrorists started winning. You are a fool. Cast your blinders to the side and free your mind and soul. Make your own judgments. Don't rely on White House press releases for news.
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Contrary to dramatic witness accounts on the day, Mr de Menezes is seen to board the train through the middle doors before pausing, looking left and right, then sitting down in either the second or third seat facing the platform.

Moments later, police burst in and apparently restrained the Brazilian before pumping seven bullets into his head and one into his shoulder.
http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/st...toryid=3627411
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But if he was terrorist he would kill hundreds of people in the underground.

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he didnt run though dude
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he was murdered for no reason, why does this surprise you? it happens every day.
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PS: new photos and vids of Abu Gharib to be released soon .... said that " they will cause riots " ....
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So i suppose 9/11 was just an accident?

I am not trying to justiffy the war in Iraq either...Bush just decided to start in the wrong place....but i agree that the situation over there NEEDS to be corrected....plain and simple....Iran is next...then we keep rolling....get with the program....
so if it was your own son you would've been cool with it too???

and you saying that he should've stayed in his own country, now let me ask you a question WHERE DID YOUR GRANDMA COME FROM, oh wait she is a native Indian I'm sure......
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so if it was your own son you would've been cool with it too???
Impossible.... that idiot is 12 years old.....
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Here he lies dead... doesn't look like suspiciously dressed to me
who took his shoes off?
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You guys are just DYING to blame the fucking police on this...why not place the blame where it fucking BELONGS!!...on the terrorists who started the fucking hysteria in the first place!!!

Oh wait....you just forgot about that because some idiot who can't speak english accidently got shot running from police who were already frazzeled because some fucking degenerate bombers killed 40+ innocent people....

You guys are truly fucking idiots....
What institution did this retard escape from?
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Old 08-17-2005, 09:17 AM   #49
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OK, I have only one simple question. How should police deal with a guy

suspected of terrorism in a train full of people ? Ask him gently :"You come

with us" ?
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Old 08-17-2005, 09:21 AM   #50
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OK, I have only one simple question. How should police deal with a guy

suspected of terrorism in a train full of people ? Ask him gently :"You come

with us" ?
Ask yourself this. If he was a terrorist suspect why didn't they arrest him previously since they had plenty of opportunities to arrest the guy before he even entered the tube station?
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