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gotys · 02-12-2002, 09:10 AM

And here is what bothers me.

People that spend their lives on Message Boards who don't know shit yet they think they ate the world when they hit 6000 posts.

It generates what I said it generates. Take it as a fact or leave it.

The paysite I want to build will take much more then stupid $60,000 to start. Today's adult market is full, and if you want to be the best and suceed, you need to invest lots of money. But I guess Amputate could start a successfull paysite business with $10,000 , well, than I have lots to learn brother.

Would someone please lock this threat before the whole GFY population starts hating me for being smarter?

Amputate Your Head · 02-12-2002, 09:12 AM

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Originally posted by mika

Yea that isn't true but I think he just made a mistake of trying to explain why he wants to sell his site. Do you always give out your true motives?
That doesnt make him a bad boy at least in my books.

No, it doesn't make him a bad person.... it makes him a bad salesman. Anyone that DOES have $60K to drop on a site.... assuming it really is all that & a bag of chips... isn't that dumb. He should've come up with a better story... like his fuckin' dog is dying and needs a special $60K flea collar next week or he's gonna croak or something.

mika · 02-12-2002, 09:12 AM

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Originally posted by gotys

Would someone please lock this threat before the whole GFY population starts hating me for being smarter?

No you are being forced to receive a DVD player

mika · 02-12-2002, 09:14 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

No, it doesn't make him a bad person.... it makes him a bad salesman.

Ok sorry I misunderstood. You're right here.

ldinternet · 02-12-2002, 09:15 AM

Amptutate Your Head, keeping it real as ever.

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Originally posted by gotys
Would someone please lock this thread

Remember that episode of The Simpsons, where Homer can't get rid of the trampoline, so Bart puts a padlock on it so that someone will steal it? I do.

Bart: Dad, you really want to get rid of this trampoline?
Homer: Uh huh.
Bart: Observe, a bike lock.
[he locks the trampoline to a post]
Now just turn around, and count to three: one, two, three --
[they turn around to see Snake with a pair of wire cutters]
Uh, better make it five.
Snake: All right! I got me a bed.

nemesis · 02-12-2002, 09:21 AM

you can register a domain for 15 bucks and then buy huge traffic from other tgps for $20.000. And then, you will be in top 10 at sextracker. But, if you lost your mind, you can always pay like 60k for a tgp...

Roberto · 02-12-2002, 09:22 AM

From a gallery poster perspective i can say that pichunter sends a lot of traffic (10k a day on a main page listing), and good one at that, I can get at least 1 signup per listing there's no reason for him not to make money with that site i wouldn't sell it if i was him.
why all the flaming over a guy that wants to sell a _very_ good site? you have people trying to sell shitty domains with no traffic popping every day here and when a real site is offered you jump on it?
I guess free site/tgp are bad words here?

Amputate Your Head · 02-12-2002, 09:22 AM

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Originally posted by gotys
And here is what bothers me.

People that spend their lives on Message Boards who don't know shit yet they think they ate the world when they hit 6000 posts.

I smell the stank of envy....

Quote:

Originally posted by gotys
It generates what I said it generates. Take it as a fact or leave it.

I don't hafta take a fucking thing except how I want to take it. Got that Chief?

Quote:

Originally posted by gotys
The paysite I want to build will take much more then stupid $60,000 to start. Today's adult market is full, and if you want to be the best and suceed, you need to invest lots of money. But I guess Amputate could start a successfull paysite business with $10,000 , well, than I have lots to learn brother.

And if you're site has all those bookmarkers and is generating $10K a month, then it's obviously been up for a while, cuz that shit don't happen overnight... which means you've been pulling decent cash off that for a while now.... yet, you have no money with which to operate? If that's the case, then you should really reconsider getting any deeper into business than you already are, because if you can't manage your finances enough to be able to retain some profits for future operating capital, you're fucked already.

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Originally posted by gotys
Would someone please lock this threat before the whole GFY population starts hating me for being smarter?

no risk of that happening.

Direktor · 02-12-2002, 09:26 AM

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Originally posted by gotys
I see most of people on this board have no knowledge of TGP bussiness.

Thats including you since you are selling your site. Didn't I read something on AWI that you ran warez sites or the ever wonderful www.senternet.com? maybe its time for a career change

mika · 02-12-2002, 09:32 AM

Yeah ok I must say that pichunter is probably the most poster friendly TGP out there with lots of traffic.
He has listed me every fucking time, the same day, gallery after gallery.

But it seems to me that you only get respected if you have a lot of traffic, and you become a fuck who states all kind of weird rules and rarely lists you.

Pichunter has sent me more traffic than certain "big boys" but if those certain "big boys" came here selling their site everyone would be kissing ass all over.

But I dont know this webmaster personally, this information is just from my stats. Also, i havent posted more than 2 galleries in 2002, so i dont know if things have changed.

Amputate Your Head · 02-12-2002, 09:35 AM

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Originally posted by Roberto
why all the flaming over a guy that wants to sell a _very_ good site? you have people trying to sell shitty domains with no traffic popping every day here and when a real site is offered you jump on it?

I'm just trying to fish out the real story here man... cuz he's either so bad at business that he can't maintain and build enough investment capital from a $10K a month site to set up ONE paysite, or there's something else behind it. And what that is, I could only speculate... for all I know, he's sick of it all and want to be a turnip farmer in South Dakota.... doesn't really matter... but the whole premise of dumping a huge traffic pipe for paysite startup capital, not only when you're gonna need that traffic for the paysite to be successful, but ESPECIALLY when it's also a PROFITABLE traffic pipe, to me at least, is ludicrous.

Roberto · 02-12-2002, 09:39 AM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

I'm just trying to fish out the real story here man... cuz he's either so bad at business that he can't maintain and build enough investment capital from a $10K a month site to set up ONE paysite, or there's something else behind it. And what that is, I could only speculate... for all I know, he's sick of it all and want to be a turnip farmer in South Dakota.... doesn't really matter... but the whole premise of dumping a huge traffic pipe for paysite startup capital, not only when you're gonna need that traffic for the paysite to be successful, but ESPECIALLY when it's also a PROFITABLE traffic pipe, to me at least, is ludicrous.

That's a mystery for me too, it would be a great traffic pump for a paysite, and to set up an affiliate program giving preference to his paysite-pushing webmasters, lots of possibilities to play with all that traffic.

wait a minute, where's proof that gotys is really the owner of pichunter and not a boneprone character or scam artist?

gotys · 02-12-2002, 09:44 AM

Ampute, maybe I am tired of it. I just said I am tired of it in my first post. I said I am tired of giving people free shit. TGPs can kiss my ass goodbye.

But whatever reason it is I am selling it, it doesn't matter, or should no matter to the buyer. The buyer is buying establish site with lots of bookmark traffic and that's the only thing that should matter.

geoff · 02-12-2002, 09:49 AM

spent $60k+ on the biggest baddest paysite the net has ever seen, but got stuff all traffic cause I sold me already established traffic source.

maybe its just me but if I'd spend mad cash like that on a paysite I'd want to be pulling in some very serious traffic numbers.

Ludedude · 02-12-2002, 09:56 AM

Amp is correct. And brutally so, as usual.

If you're opening a new paysite, you need a good source of traffic. Why would you sell a dynamite source of half a million surfers a day just when you need it the most?

On the other hand, only a complete fool couldn't make $10k a month with that type of traffic.

Who knows what his motivation is ???

Amputate Your Head · 02-12-2002, 09:58 AM

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Originally posted by gotys
Ampute, maybe I am tired of it. I just said I am tired of it in my first post. I said I am tired of giving people free shit. TGPs can kiss my ass goodbye.

Yeah.... may be...

but that's fuckin' lame and you know it. $10K a month and those numbers is no longer about "giving people free porn" whether you're sick of it or not.... at that point, it's purely business. And that amount of traffic is not something you dump because you're *sick of it*. Unless you found God or some shit.

So.... you're either assuming my intelligence is that of a monkey...

or your's really is.

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Originally posted by gotys
But whatever reason it is I am selling it, it doesn't matter, or should no matter to the buyer. The buyer is buying establish site with lots of bookmark traffic and that's the only thing that should matter.

But it does matter. And it always will. No one in their right mind blindly invests that much money in something that is actively successful without questioning the sellers motives for selling.

If I told you I have a fully ready-to-go paysite I'd sell you today for $60K... it has the numbers and it has the income.... and a paysite is what you're lookin' for, right? Are you gonna sit there and tell me you wouldn't be beating me to death trying to find out WHY I'm selling a site that makes bank each and every month?

winter · 02-12-2002, 10:43 AM

I totally agree with amputate. There's way to many holes in this story.

If I was making $10/month I would just wait 6 months and then bam I would have $60k to start the paysite and then feed it traffic from the tgp.

teadrinker · 02-12-2002, 11:25 AM

Dint some of us had the same conversation like this with jenny on AWI before?

All tgp webmasters are Wack.

Nickatilynx · 02-12-2002, 11:29 AM

Oh Anthony,your an old vet cjer.What do you think?

Shall we buy it?Or maybe swap a kickass paysite for it?

;)

http://www.nicksclicks.com

kmanrox · 02-12-2002, 11:31 AM

damn, lay off, hes an honest, legit, big tgp owner / operator.... he actually runs a quality site, not a trade crap site....

Anthony_Whitcon · 02-12-2002, 11:34 AM

Nickatilynx...

CJ'ing. Don't know what you are talking about! =o)

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How do you get 33 million clicks a day from a site that only has 597k hits a day?

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Causing the surfer to click looking for free shit. Don't worry trying to learn about it, the big money has been dead for some time now.

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More than $60,000.00 to build a paysite?! Tell you what, we'll swap you a fully functional paysite for your CJ site.

Deal?!

xApster · 02-12-2002, 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by teadrinker
Dint some of us had the same conversation like this with jenny on AWI before?

All tgp webmasters are Wack.

Ya we did, everyone did not belive Jenny that the site made $$$, I bought it and now its one of my main sorces of traffic and income.

People just jump to conslusions to fast. Pichunter is a gold mine and if bought I am sure you can push it to 15k + a month .... let us remmeber absolut series sold for 100k and its only about 100k larger than pichunter ...

Brian911 · 02-12-2002, 11:45 AM

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Originally posted by Anthony_Whitcon

More than $60,000.00 to build a paysite?! Tell you what, we'll swap you a fully functional paysite for your CJ site.

Deal?!

ok that made my day :D

but guys, he doesnt realize he WILL need traffic to build up a decent paysite.. either that or very good webmaster payouts.

and since he already decided to sell it (no doubt nobody will buy it for $60k), for gods sake let him sell it and stop telling him the truth !

Amputate Your Head · 02-12-2002, 11:46 AM

I'm not questioning the guys honesty or reputation or any of that... I simply wanna know what's up. Like I said, how many people are gonna invest $60K into ANYTHING without having some serious questions answered, and certainly when it's brutally obvious that the site for sale would no doubt be a major asset in making the paysite venture successful? It's not like he's going into something totally and completely unrelated and has zero use for the site. If that was the case, I probably wouldn't have said anytihing at all.

But now we're in a scenario real close to this:

I have a very successful Travel Agency. We have tons of customers and make a killing every single month. It's for sale cuz I'm sick of handing out brochures to everyone and wanna start my own cruise line.

The guy can be straight as an arrow... that's not the point, nor my focus here. But he's either hiding a bigger picture... or he's just plain dumb. Either way... seemed pretty bizarre to me, so just thought I would point it all out... but I honestly don't really give a shit either way.

Brian · 02-12-2002, 11:54 AM

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Originally posted by gotys

But whatever reason it is I am selling it, it doesn't matter, or should no matter to the buyer.

uhh......dude?

heymatty · 02-12-2002, 12:02 PM

Maybe he has a genuinely new idea that does require capital. I would not think its that easy to raise significant capital through normal funding channels for adult projects.

I bet the guy who owns exploited teens invested at least $60k, and I am very sure he does not regret it. Same with netvideogirls, bangbus etc. some paysites are big budget same with TV shows.

Or maybe he does not have a master plan, and he just wants to sell a site because he is sick of it.

Jakke PNG · 02-12-2002, 12:04 PM

Nobody's gonna buy it without proof of how much it makes, screenshots aren't just good enough (not that he's shown any of those either).

Amputate Your Head · 02-12-2002, 12:07 PM

Here's my bottom line:

I've bought alot of things in my life... cars... computers... whatever. Unless it's something being sold commercially enmasse, usually the very first question I ask is, "Why are you selling?" and if the answer doesn't convince me.... I move on. Now, if I go to buy a Corvette, and the guy has 30 Vettes sitting on the lot, I probly don't need to ask that question. But if it's some private guy who has a perfectly good car, and is selling it dirt cheap... yeah.... I wanna know. His answer to that question will determine whether or not I investigate what he says to be true and it actually IS a good deal, or whether I walk from it altogether.

This is how one prevents himself from getting fucked.

Guy #1: I got this hot car for sale man... $45K new, it's only a 2 months old, yours for $15K

Guy #2: Wow! Awesome! Why are you selling?

Guy #1: I'm sick of hot babes in bikinis staring at me all the time.

Guy #2: Really? Cool! I'll take it.

What Guy #1 didn't tell Guy #2 is that he stole the fuckin' car from the mafia, they're lookin' to kill the guy they catch driving it, and the heads are warped.

Guy #2 got fucked dry because, according to gotys, "it shouldn't matter to the buyer. It's a good deal."

If it was such a good fucking deal, Guy #1 would've kept it.

ONS · 02-12-2002, 12:27 PM

Donate it to chairty and take a $60k tax deduction.

Pipecrew · 02-12-2002, 12:32 PM

Pichunter is a good guy and he has great traffic! we've had a link exchange for the longest time and he only has quality! So lets just let up on the guy!

Pipecrew · 02-12-2002, 12:50 PM

My bad, I ment to give props to PicsMonster.... We have done a link exchange for a while! Dont think I have ever heard of Pichunter, and I have already lost respect for him because he is one of those sites that wants "donations" for special members area's ...... Jeeeeez buddy, I offer all the same search features and good galleries etc (movie galleries, not pic ones) as you and I would never had the oddassity to attempt to ask for donations

http://www.pichunter.com/donate.html

Amputate Your Head · 02-12-2002, 12:56 PM

Okay, well... I'm sure he is a good guy. Never said he wasn't. Really isn't the point. But in my experience, if something sounds fishy, it usually is. I personally wouldn't find myself involved in a deal that didn't sound quite right without further details to make me comfortable with the buy.... but that's just me.

Obviously he's not interested in disclosing any more than just being sick of it, which is certainly his choice, but my guess is that he really doesn't want to sell it, or he would've taken the steps necessary to follow through.

If the whole thing was to see what kind of serious responses he'd get from a post like this, I'd say he got as much as he put into it. And I'll still swap him my ol' leakin' waterjug fer it.

But don't come down on me for pointing out some obligatory caution. He might be the greatest guy on Earth... but I don't know him. I don't know the first thing about him, and since he was the one that wanted the whole thing to be public from the very first post:

Quote:

Place your offers here, please don't ICQ me your offers, I want this to be public.

...I'm just helping bring the WHOLE deal public. If the actual offers are to be publicly serious, and not just promises of leakin' waterjugs, then let's see some public honesty from the seller. Till then, I got a whole closet full of leakin' waterjugs.

That's all I got... nothin' personal... just business.

Good luck with it gotys.

Za Ha · 02-12-2002, 02:35 PM

1) Why does everyone here care SO much whether someone had a warez site b4? It's not like he actually had files! No one does these days!!!

2) If I were making $10k a month I would NEVER sell my site!!! EVER!

3) Pichunter has more rules then the fuckin olympics to get posted on!!!

4) I dunno what kinda paysite requires $60,000 investment.... That is crazzzy.!!

My

Shaggy · 02-12-2002, 03:06 PM

10k will put you under in three months. You could start a paysite with that but it wouldn't be successful.

Are you guys aware of the content costs of running one? You need at least $3000/month in content alone if you plan on retaining anyone.

10k would last you 2 months after design and 2 months of content. Then what?

You better have enough members by that point to pay your content. Which you probably won't. So you better at least have 6 months of content and expenses paid before even considering opening one.

Then there is promotion to think about. Better have good promotion at the begginning to get those webmasters fast.

10k isn't shit. Anyone that thinks they can successfully start a paysite with that is an idiot.

Don't worry pichunter, I get the feeling that most of the guys who posted here have topsites pushing 500 hits a day and think they are the whip.

Though if I were you, I would hang onto your site to promote your paysite with. Keep growing your site while saving up or finding alternative financing.

boneprone · 02-12-2002, 03:14 PM

huh?

Shaggy, assuming he makes 10k a month you are making it sound as if this 10k is all he has to work with on this paysite EVER! Why? He gets payed monthly.

If he's making 10k a month it would be enough.
You said yourself you'd need at least 3k a month for the content.

Well he's not making 10 k a year, its 10 ka month.

You said 10 k doesnt go very far? How far are you thinking he needs to take it? You say 10k would last 2 months? Ok fine.
He makes 20k in 2 months.

Its not like this 10 k has to last him all fucking year, and thats all he can ever put into this project like you are making it sound, the 10k only has to last just 4 weeks.

Think before you post.

Should be enough to at least get him started.
Once he uses the 10 k, 4 weeks later he'll have another 10k to fuel the project further. Are you forgeting that?

And once his site is up and running dont you think IT will make some $$, or are you forgetting that also?

Having a tgp that makes 10k profit a month is a perfect fueling source to have the funding to start a paysite.
You are the one that is Full of SHIT!

boneprone · 02-12-2002, 03:20 PM

The question at hand should be is he making 10k a month and if so how, with what programs, and he needs to proove it.

Simple as that.

But to say he has to sell this to make a paysite with 60k is BS.
If you are making 10k a month the security of having this money coming in every month is far more valuable than selling it for just 60k.

Why sell it if you are making 10k a month?

You are wrong shaggy, you should think it over a bit.

Shaggy · 02-12-2002, 03:33 PM

I was replying to some of the others that said they could easily start a paysite with 10k. Which you can't.

Even though he says he makes 10k a month. I'm sure he has to live off of that income also. Plus pay taxes. Maybe he has a house payment and kids and other shit.

So what if he only has a 2-3k to work with after that. Not a very big comfort zone to start a paysite. Especially when you are loosing money for the first few months.

I hear what your saying boneprone. If I were him, I would save up 10k to start it for the first 3 months, and continue to save to support it in the 4,5,6 months. After that if he has played his cards right. He shoud have a site that will support itself and can start showing a profit.

Plus he gets to keep pichunter and feed his paysite.

boneprone · 02-12-2002, 03:35 PM

would you care for some almond rocca?
Let me make it up to ya.

Shaggy · 02-12-2002, 03:47 PM

If I ever go to vegas, a Mai Tai should heal the wound.

boneprone · 02-12-2002, 04:54 PM

gotys · 02-12-2002, 05:01 PM

I don't understand why you guys have to search for reasons? Does it matter? Jesus Christ, I am selling a 500k/day site here, what else do you need to know? It's my fucking business why I want to sell it, I gave you a reason , and if you don't take that reason as valuable, than go fuck yourself.

Be proffessional for God's sake.

boneprone · 02-12-2002, 05:04 PM

well said

Amputate Your Head · 02-12-2002, 05:05 PM

indeed

TheFLY · 02-12-2002, 05:49 PM

I've been trading w/ the pichunter webmaster for a long time -- I traded over 10,000 productive visitors with him today! Whoever buys this site better take good care of it!

I've been in his place before -- I don't see why there's so much skepticism about this sale -- he can do whatever the fuck he wants to do with is time, energy, and money... Why do you think Hotmail sold out to Microsoft!? I'm not sure how much time he invests in this site -- but last I talked to him he said he has busted ass on Pichunter to get it to where it is today -- I believe him... the site has been around for a while...

No doubt he probably is tired of it -- I shut down TheFLY A-Z three years ago after it became an annoying chore -- I read somewhere that TheHun said the same thing about reviewing galleries... at dinner once Platinum Dave told me he was glad not to have to do trades anymore... It gets old... If he wants to try his hand at something new -- I wish him the best of luck...

As for the donation concept -- I don't see why it can't work... As long as Paypal doesn't go under -- I think we could see more donation based porn sites...

buster · 02-12-2002, 05:55 PM

i have to sorta agree with shaggy 10 grand aint shit every one around here acts like 10k is alot of money i dont know about you but my pay site costs 3,300 a month to run and i would like to make 2000 a week so after taxes i can take home $1500. a week so right there it cost me over $11,000 a month to run a site .

Za Ha · 02-12-2002, 06:15 PM

If $10,000 USD is not enough per month for a paysite then you are managing your cash wrong.

Where's Aaron when you need him. Post your opinion...

Za Ha · 02-12-2002, 06:18 PM

As for the price:

It is good! Even great.

I have know gotys a long time ago (before he had this nickname...) and his scripts are top of the line!! The best that can be made! His traffic is top notch too... to galleries at least... 10k is np...

I don't like the donation idea but it might work.

If it makes $10,000 a month then it is a steal for $60 grand. I would buy it but when you convert 1:2000+ you dont really have cash

SleazyDream · 02-12-2002, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shaggy
10k will put you under in three months. You could start a paysite with that but it wouldn't be successful.

Are you guys aware of the content costs of running one? You need at least $3000/month in content alone if you plan on retaining anyone.

10k would last you 2 months after design and 2 months of content. Then what?

You better have enough members by that point to pay your content. Which you probably won't. So you better at least have 6 months of content and expenses paid before even considering opening one.

Then there is promotion to think about. Better have good promotion at the begginning to get those webmasters fast.

10k isn't shit. Anyone that thinks they can successfully start a paysite with that is an idiot.

Don't worry pichunter, I get the feeling that most of the guys who posted here have topsites pushing 500 hits a day and think they are the whip.

Though if I were you, I would hang onto your site to promote your paysite with. Keep growing your site while saving up or finding alternative financing.

I'll take that chalange with only $5K and we'll see what it does 3-4 months from now. I'll keep you informed. Far as I'm concerned pic paysites are easy as shit to set up and cheap as dirt to run, but I guess I'll know a few months from now if I need to be eating my words or if you'll all be kissinmy ass again.

FreeOnes · 02-12-2002, 06:23 PM

I think everybody would buy your site for $60k if you can prove that you make a profit of $10k per month for at least the last 6 months. I'm only afraid you can't prove it.....

I even don't understand why you need to invest in a pay site $60k if you already have Over 300,000 galleries for donating members of your current site. Explain this to me as I'm really confused.

FATPad · 02-12-2002, 06:29 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

Guy #1: I got this hot car for sale man... $45K new, it's only a 2 months old, yours for $15K

Guy #2: Wow! Awesome! Why are you selling?

Guy #1: I'm sick of hot babes in bikinis staring at me all the time.

Guy #2: Really? Cool! I'll take it.

HAHA

02-12-2002, 09:10 AM	#51
gotys Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 767	And here is what bothers me. People that spend their lives on Message Boards who don't know shit yet they think they ate the world when they hit 6000 posts. It generates what I said it generates. Take it as a fact or leave it. The paysite I want to build will take much more then stupid $60,000 to start. Today's adult market is full, and if you want to be the best and suceed, you need to invest lots of money. But I guess Amputate could start a successfull paysite business with $10,000 , well, than I have lots to learn brother. Would someone please lock this threat before the whole GFY population starts hating me for being smarter? __________________ PicHunter.com,ClipHunter.com,HomeTwat.com -------------------------------------------- not accepting any trades, not selling spots

02-12-2002, 09:44 AM	#63
gotys Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 767	Ampute, maybe I am tired of it. I just said I am tired of it in my first post. I said I am tired of giving people free shit. TGPs can kiss my ass goodbye. But whatever reason it is I am selling it, it doesn't matter, or should no matter to the buyer. The buyer is buying establish site with lots of bookmark traffic and that's the only thing that should matter. __________________ PicHunter.com,ClipHunter.com,HomeTwat.com -------------------------------------------- not accepting any trades, not selling spots

02-12-2002, 09:49 AM	#64
geoff Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: outback, Australia Posts: 192	spent $60k+ on the biggest baddest paysite the net has ever seen, but got stuff all traffic cause I sold me already established traffic source. maybe its just me but if I'd spend mad cash like that on a paysite I'd want to be pulling in some very serious traffic numbers. __________________ Nothing motivates more than the thought of being poor! PornMegaBucks 25 niche sites - 60% recurring - build yourself some long term recurring income Software Bucks - CleanBrowser + iSuperCharger

02-12-2002, 09:56 AM	#65
Ludedude Suck it! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Who wants to know? Posts: 4,432	Amp is correct. And brutally so, as usual. If you're opening a new paysite, you need a good source of traffic. Why would you sell a dynamite source of half a million surfers a day just when you need it the most? On the other hand, only a complete fool couldn't make $10k a month with that type of traffic. Who knows what his motivation is ??? __________________

02-12-2002, 11:31 AM	#70
kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,292	damn, lay off, hes an honest, legit, big tgp owner / operator.... he actually runs a quality site, not a trade crap site.... __________________ Crypto HODLr Crypto mining Angel investor

02-12-2002, 09:21 AM	#56
nemesis Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: home Posts: 1,335	you can register a domain for 15 bucks and then buy huge traffic from other tgps for $20.000. And then, you will be in top 10 at sextracker. But, if you lost your mind, you can always pay like 60k for a tgp...

02-12-2002, 09:22 AM	#57
Roberto Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,459	From a gallery poster perspective i can say that pichunter sends a lot of traffic (10k a day on a main page listing), and good one at that, I can get at least 1 signup per listing there's no reason for him not to make money with that site i wouldn't sell it if i was him. why all the flaming over a guy that wants to sell a _very_ good site? you have people trying to sell shitty domains with no traffic popping every day here and when a real site is offered you jump on it? I guess free site/tgp are bad words here?

02-12-2002, 09:32 AM	#60
mika Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 1,561	Yeah ok I must say that pichunter is probably the most poster friendly TGP out there with lots of traffic. He has listed me every fucking time, the same day, gallery after gallery. But it seems to me that you only get respected if you have a lot of traffic, and you become a fuck who states all kind of weird rules and rarely lists you. Pichunter has sent me more traffic than certain "big boys" but if those certain "big boys" came here selling their site everyone would be kissing ass all over. But I dont know this webmaster personally, this information is just from my stats. Also, i havent posted more than 2 galleries in 2002, so i dont know if things have changed.

02-12-2002, 10:43 AM	#67
winter Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 570	I totally agree with amputate. There's way to many holes in this story. If I was making $10/month I would just wait 6 months and then bam I would have $60k to start the paysite and then feed it traffic from the tgp.

02-12-2002, 11:25 AM	#68
teadrinker Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: CA Posts: 339	Dint some of us had the same conversation like this with jenny on AWI before? All tgp webmasters are Wack.

02-12-2002, 11:29 AM	#69
Nickatilynx Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: International Gypsy Posts: 819	Oh Anthony,your an old vet cjer.What do you think? Shall we buy it?Or maybe swap a kickass paysite for it? ;) http://www.nicksclicks.com

02-12-2002, 11:34 AM	#71
Anthony_Whitcon Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Vancouver Posts: 120	Nickatilynx... CJ'ing. Don't know what you are talking about! =o) --------------------------------------------------------- How do you get 33 million clicks a day from a site that only has 597k hits a day? --------------------------------------------------------- Causing the surfer to click looking for free shit. Don't worry trying to learn about it, the big money has been dead for some time now. ================================ More than $60,000.00 to build a paysite?! Tell you what, we'll swap you a fully functional paysite for your CJ site. Deal?!

02-12-2002, 11:46 AM	#74
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	I'm not questioning the guys honesty or reputation or any of that... I simply wanna know what's up. Like I said, how many people are gonna invest $60K into ANYTHING without having some serious questions answered, and certainly when it's brutally obvious that the site for sale would no doubt be a major asset in making the paysite venture successful? It's not like he's going into something totally and completely unrelated and has zero use for the site. If that was the case, I probably wouldn't have said anytihing at all. But now we're in a scenario real close to this: I have a very successful Travel Agency. We have tons of customers and make a killing every single month. It's for sale cuz I'm sick of handing out brochures to everyone and wanna start my own cruise line. The guy can be straight as an arrow... that's not the point, nor my focus here. But he's either hiding a bigger picture... or he's just plain dumb. Either way... seemed pretty bizarre to me, so just thought I would point it all out... but I honestly don't really give a shit either way.

02-12-2002, 12:02 PM	#76
heymatty Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Scottsdale :) Posts: 2,188	Maybe he has a genuinely new idea that does require capital. I would not think its that easy to raise significant capital through normal funding channels for adult projects. I bet the guy who owns exploited teens invested at least $60k, and I am very sure he does not regret it. Same with netvideogirls, bangbus etc. some paysites are big budget same with TV shows. Or maybe he does not have a master plan, and he just wants to sell a site because he is sick of it. __________________ Cashlantis ~ Black Book Cash

02-12-2002, 12:04 PM	#77
Jakke PNG ex-TeenGodFather Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suomi Finland Perkele Posts: 20,306	Nobody's gonna buy it without proof of how much it makes, screenshots aren't just good enough (not that he's shown any of those either). __________________ ..and I'm off.

02-12-2002, 12:07 PM	#78
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	Here's my bottom line: I've bought alot of things in my life... cars... computers... whatever. Unless it's something being sold commercially enmasse, usually the very first question I ask is, "Why are you selling?" and if the answer doesn't convince me.... I move on. Now, if I go to buy a Corvette, and the guy has 30 Vettes sitting on the lot, I probly don't need to ask that question. But if it's some private guy who has a perfectly good car, and is selling it dirt cheap... yeah.... I wanna know. His answer to that question will determine whether or not I investigate what he says to be true and it actually IS a good deal, or whether I walk from it altogether. This is how one prevents himself from getting fucked. Guy #1: I got this hot car for sale man... $45K new, it's only a 2 months old, yours for $15K Guy #2: Wow! Awesome! Why are you selling? Guy #1: I'm sick of hot babes in bikinis staring at me all the time. Guy #2: Really? Cool! I'll take it. What Guy #1 didn't tell Guy #2 is that he stole the fuckin' car from the mafia, they're lookin' to kill the guy they catch driving it, and the heads are warped. Guy #2 got fucked dry because, according to gotys, "it shouldn't matter to the buyer. It's a good deal." If it was such a good fucking deal, Guy #1 would've kept it.

02-12-2002, 12:27 PM	#79
ONS Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Sparta Posts: 204	Donate it to chairty and take a $60k tax deduction.

02-12-2002, 12:32 PM	#80
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,887	Pichunter is a good guy and he has great traffic! we've had a link exchange for the longest time and he only has quality! So lets just let up on the guy!

02-12-2002, 12:50 PM	#81
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,887	My bad, I ment to give props to PicsMonster.... We have done a link exchange for a while! Dont think I have ever heard of Pichunter, and I have already lost respect for him because he is one of those sites that wants "donations" for special members area's ...... Jeeeeez buddy, I offer all the same search features and good galleries etc (movie galleries, not pic ones) as you and I would never had the oddassity to attempt to ask for donations http://www.pichunter.com/donate.html Last edited by Pipecrew; 02-12-2002 at 12:52 PM..

02-12-2002, 02:35 PM	#83
Za Ha Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Still lost Posts: 5,112	1) Why does everyone here care SO much whether someone had a warez site b4? It's not like he actually had files! No one does these days!!! 2) If I were making $10k a month I would NEVER sell my site!!! EVER! 3) Pichunter has more rules then the fuckin olympics to get posted on!!! 4) I dunno what kinda paysite requires $60,000 investment.... That is crazzzy.!! My

02-12-2002, 03:06 PM	#84
Shaggy Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: USA Posts: 570	10k will put you under in three months. You could start a paysite with that but it wouldn't be successful. Are you guys aware of the content costs of running one? You need at least $3000/month in content alone if you plan on retaining anyone. 10k would last you 2 months after design and 2 months of content. Then what? You better have enough members by that point to pay your content. Which you probably won't. So you better at least have 6 months of content and expenses paid before even considering opening one. Then there is promotion to think about. Better have good promotion at the begginning to get those webmasters fast. 10k isn't shit. Anyone that thinks they can successfully start a paysite with that is an idiot. Don't worry pichunter, I get the feeling that most of the guys who posted here have topsites pushing 500 hits a day and think they are the whip. Though if I were you, I would hang onto your site to promote your paysite with. Keep growing your site while saving up or finding alternative financing.

02-12-2002, 03:14 PM	#85
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	huh? Shaggy, assuming he makes 10k a month you are making it sound as if this 10k is all he has to work with on this paysite EVER! Why? He gets payed monthly. If he's making 10k a month it would be enough. You said yourself you'd need at least 3k a month for the content. Well he's not making 10 k a year, its 10 ka month. You said 10 k doesnt go very far? How far are you thinking he needs to take it? You say 10k would last 2 months? Ok fine. He makes 20k in 2 months. Its not like this 10 k has to last him all fucking year, and thats all he can ever put into this project like you are making it sound, the 10k only has to last just 4 weeks. Think before you post. Should be enough to at least get him started. Once he uses the 10 k, 4 weeks later he'll have another 10k to fuel the project further. Are you forgeting that? And once his site is up and running dont you think IT will make some $$, or are you forgetting that also? Having a tgp that makes 10k profit a month is a perfect fueling source to have the funding to start a paysite. You are the one that is Full of SHIT! __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids. Last edited by boneprone; 02-12-2002 at 03:25 PM..

02-12-2002, 03:20 PM	#86
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	The question at hand should be is he making 10k a month and if so how, with what programs, and he needs to proove it. Simple as that. But to say he has to sell this to make a paysite with 60k is BS. If you are making 10k a month the security of having this money coming in every month is far more valuable than selling it for just 60k. Why sell it if you are making 10k a month? You are wrong shaggy, you should think it over a bit. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids. Last edited by boneprone; 02-12-2002 at 03:31 PM..

02-12-2002, 03:33 PM	#87
Shaggy Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: USA Posts: 570	I was replying to some of the others that said they could easily start a paysite with 10k. Which you can't. Even though he says he makes 10k a month. I'm sure he has to live off of that income also. Plus pay taxes. Maybe he has a house payment and kids and other shit. So what if he only has a 2-3k to work with after that. Not a very big comfort zone to start a paysite. Especially when you are loosing money for the first few months. I hear what your saying boneprone. If I were him, I would save up 10k to start it for the first 3 months, and continue to save to support it in the 4,5,6 months. After that if he has played his cards right. He shoud have a site that will support itself and can start showing a profit. Plus he gets to keep pichunter and feed his paysite.

02-12-2002, 03:35 PM	#88
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	would you care for some almond rocca? Let me make it up to ya. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

02-12-2002, 03:47 PM	#89
Shaggy Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: USA Posts: 570	If I ever go to vegas, a Mai Tai should heal the wound.

02-12-2002, 04:54 PM	#90
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	ok __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

02-12-2002, 05:01 PM	#91
gotys Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 767	I don't understand why you guys have to search for reasons? Does it matter? Jesus Christ, I am selling a 500k/day site here, what else do you need to know? It's my fucking business why I want to sell it, I gave you a reason , and if you don't take that reason as valuable, than go fuck yourself. Be proffessional for God's sake. __________________ PicHunter.com,ClipHunter.com,HomeTwat.com -------------------------------------------- not accepting any trades, not selling spots

02-12-2002, 05:04 PM	#92
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	well said __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

02-12-2002, 05:05 PM	#93
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	indeed

02-12-2002, 05:49 PM	#94
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	I've been trading w/ the pichunter webmaster for a long time -- I traded over 10,000 productive visitors with him today! Whoever buys this site better take good care of it! I've been in his place before -- I don't see why there's so much skepticism about this sale -- he can do whatever the fuck he wants to do with is time, energy, and money... Why do you think Hotmail sold out to Microsoft!? I'm not sure how much time he invests in this site -- but last I talked to him he said he has busted ass on Pichunter to get it to where it is today -- I believe him... the site has been around for a while... No doubt he probably is tired of it -- I shut down TheFLY A-Z three years ago after it became an annoying chore -- I read somewhere that TheHun said the same thing about reviewing galleries... at dinner once Platinum Dave told me he was glad not to have to do trades anymore... It gets old... If he wants to try his hand at something new -- I wish him the best of luck... As for the donation concept -- I don't see why it can't work... As long as Paypal doesn't go under -- I think we could see more donation based porn sites...

02-12-2002, 05:55 PM	#95
buster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 459	i have to sorta agree with shaggy 10 grand aint shit every one around here acts like 10k is alot of money i dont know about you but my pay site costs 3,300 a month to run and i would like to make 2000 a week so after taxes i can take home $1500. a week so right there it cost me over $11,000 a month to run a site .

02-12-2002, 06:15 PM	#96
Za Ha Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Still lost Posts: 5,112	If $10,000 USD is not enough per month for a paysite then you are managing your cash wrong. Where's Aaron when you need him. Post your opinion...

02-12-2002, 06:18 PM	#97
Za Ha Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Still lost Posts: 5,112	As for the price: It is good! Even great. I have know gotys a long time ago (before he had this nickname...) and his scripts are top of the line!! The best that can be made! His traffic is top notch too... to galleries at least... 10k is np... I don't like the donation idea but it might work. If it makes $10,000 a month then it is a steal for $60 grand. I would buy it but when you convert 1:2000+ you dont really have cash

02-12-2002, 06:23 PM	#99
FreeOnes Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,400	I think everybody would buy your site for $60k if you can prove that you make a profit of $10k per month for at least the last 6 months. I'm only afraid you can't prove it..... I even don't understand why you need to invest in a pay site $60k if you already have Over 300,000 galleries for donating members of your current site. Explain this to me as I'm really confused. __________________ The new FreeOnes! - AdultFilmStarContent - BabeGalleries and much more! - 1Strike Movies and much more! All powered by Xpressa