DESIGN JOB OPPORTUNITY - Design the New Twistys Tour!! - GoFuckYourself.com

Shap · 08-25-2005, 01:28 PM

Hi Everyone. Our design contest attracted alot of designers that were interested in designing a Twistys Tour for us. That wasn't the task for the contest so I decided to make this post to see who would be interested.

Here are our two current tours.
Tour 1
http://tour.twistys.com/t1/revs=NoAdvert/

Video Tour
http://tour.twistys.com/t2/revs=NoAdvert/

Our tours do well for us. There is always room for improvment and I'd love to have a few more tours to offer our affiliates.

We are looking to see who'd be interested in designing a new tour(s) for us.
If you are interested here is what we are looking for.
First we'd like an idea of how you'd make the tour look. What you think would convert well (I'd provide you with a user and pass to the site to see what the member's area is like).
Next I'll need to know your price and time to design it.
And lastly send that in an email and then post here letting me know that you sent the email so I'll look out for it.

MarkTiarra · 08-25-2005, 01:50 PM

In any paysite tour design, you have two goals:

1) High conversion
2) Percieved as high converting by potential affiliates.

Seems elementary but the two can often be at odds. Sometimes the tours that work the best are ones affiliates scoff at. In fact, the two goals are often at odds so it takes quite a bit of care to achieve both.

That said, I think with the content you are offering, the names of the girls is an integral part of the sale. You should look to build the presentation as a series of conglomerated girl/scene pages such that fans of those girls will be willing to jump to her material (and you get the search relevance on her name) and such that you can build out individual pages with bio info for the girls and what scenes you have of them. This will give you the ability to have unique pages based on the girls that can then be linked by your affiliates and opens you up to the whole blog and personality based community rather than only being able to market to straight up porn venues.

Visually speaking it's more a matter of taste at that point and of course this is where you try to be stunning without having a heavy page weight. The content is more the focus here but you want to lend credibility to your sale (giving the buyer confidence that you aren't some site stealing CC info) by giving it a real polished look. I think it's important that you treat the site name as if it's a brand everyone should know as well as Hustler or any other big name. You aren't selling unknown girls here so make it a point to give your surfer the feeling that they came to a bigshot place.

So hopefully all that babble makes sense to you. I don't know if you were looking more for someone to talk about colors and feel and all that but I think the logical organization of the site as amarketing tool is more important a discussion than fonts and colors and flashy elements. Those are window dressing.

jonesy · 08-25-2005, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkTiarra

In any paysite tour design, you have two goals:

1) High conversion
2) Percieved as high converting by potential affiliates.

That said, I think with the content you are offering, the names of the girls is an integral part of the sale. You should look to build the presentation as a series of conglomerated girl/scene pages such that fans of those girls will be willing to jump to her material

I don't know if you were looking more for someone to talk about colors and feel and all that but I think the logical organization of the site as amarketing tool is more important a discussion than fonts and colors and flashy elements. Those are window dressing.

you took the words right outta my mouth - content and how its presented makes or breaks a site.

Shap · 08-25-2005, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkTiarra

In any paysite tour design, you have two goals:

1) High conversion
2) Percieved as high converting by potential affiliates.

Seems elementary but the two can often be at odds. Sometimes the tours that work the best are ones affiliates scoff at. In fact, the two goals are often at odds so it takes quite a bit of care to achieve both.

That said, I think with the content you are offering, the names of the girls is an integral part of the sale. You should look to build the presentation as a series of conglomerated girl/scene pages such that fans of those girls will be willing to jump to her material (and you get the search relevance on her name) and such that you can build out individual pages with bio info for the girls and what scenes you have of them. This will give you the ability to have unique pages based on the girls that can then be linked by your affiliates and opens you up to the whole blog and personality based community rather than only being able to market to straight up porn venues.

Visually speaking it's more a matter of taste at that point and of course this is where you try to be stunning without having a heavy page weight. The content is more the focus here but you want to lend credibility to your sale (giving the buyer confidence that you aren't some site stealing CC info) by giving it a real polished look. I think it's important that you treat the site name as if it's a brand everyone should know as well as Hustler or any other big name. You aren't selling unknown girls here so make it a point to give your surfer the feeling that they came to a bigshot place.

So hopefully all that babble makes sense to you. I don't know if you were looking more for someone to talk about colors and feel and all that but I think the logical organization of the site as amarketing tool is more important a discussion than fonts and colors and flashy elements. Those are window dressing.

Nice Post Mark. How've you been? What type of job do you think the family could do with a Twistys Tour?

MaDalton · 08-25-2005, 02:18 PM

seems as if designers jump on jobs like galleries and banners but chicken out when it comes to the real skills

MarkTiarra · 08-25-2005, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shap

Nice Post Mark. How've you been? What type of job do you think the family could do with a Twistys Tour?

Well you see the quality in the portfolio... I think you can see from the post where my head is at. There are plenty of good designers out there but with me/mobbucks you are getting one that also knows a great deal about building and running programs. I'd be happy to add to the long list of successes the design we do for you. It's about building a profit center, not just eye candy.

I'm not sure if that answers your question or not so feel free to fire off more if need be. =]

killerkay · 08-25-2005, 02:37 PM

twistyscash is sounding better every time, im in

LadyMischief · 08-25-2005, 02:40 PM

Mark knows his stuff, Shap, you would do well to listen to him.

What a fantastic opportunity for anyone fortunate enough to land it! You are a sheer pleasure to work with Shap

$tandaman · 08-25-2005, 06:17 PM

shap, we provide 100% satisfaction guarantee on all our work, if you would like to retain us, we'll be happy to provide a creative for your approval, prior to doing tour work.

Egypt[4TH-Reactor] · 08-26-2005, 02:13 AM

Mail sent

Zuzana Designs · 08-26-2005, 02:24 AM

A designer that knows how to sell and convert paysites are hard to find .. It Can be thrown together by anyone but getting the sign ups is important... I'm going to send you ans e-mail and see what i can come up with ..

chronic avenger · 08-26-2005, 03:42 AM

Email sent

Stop by www.team31.net to view my portfolio.
Thanks!

micke · 08-26-2005, 04:46 AM

E-mail sent >>> "re: gfy - tourdesign"

naugthygUrL · 08-26-2005, 04:59 AM

email sent.

bigdog · 08-26-2005, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkTiarra

In any paysite tour design, you have two goals:

1) High conversion
2) Percieved as high converting by potential affiliates.

Seems elementary but the two can often be at odds. Sometimes the tours that work the best are ones affiliates scoff at. In fact, the two goals are often at odds so it takes quite a bit of care to achieve both.

That said, I think with the content you are offering, the names of the girls is an integral part of the sale. You should look to build the presentation as a series of conglomerated girl/scene pages such that fans of those girls will be willing to jump to her material (and you get the search relevance on her name) and such that you can build out individual pages with bio info for the girls and what scenes you have of them. This will give you the ability to have unique pages based on the girls that can then be linked by your affiliates and opens you up to the whole blog and personality based community rather than only being able to market to straight up porn venues.

Visually speaking it's more a matter of taste at that point and of course this is where you try to be stunning without having a heavy page weight. The content is more the focus here but you want to lend credibility to your sale (giving the buyer confidence that you aren't some site stealing CC info) by giving it a real polished look. I think it's important that you treat the site name as if it's a brand everyone should know as well as Hustler or any other big name. You aren't selling unknown girls here so make it a point to give your surfer the feeling that they came to a bigshot place.

So hopefully all that babble makes sense to you. I don't know if you were looking more for someone to talk about colors and feel and all that but I think the logical organization of the site as amarketing tool is more important a discussion than fonts and colors and flashy elements. Those are window dressing.

#2 is an important thing, that some programs still fail to realize. You got to impress the webmaster so he will at least give you guys a try. You can always have multiple tours if the more fany look tour to impress webmasters doesn't really convert the best

BradShaw · 08-26-2005, 10:44 AM

I remember Mark selling his magic spreadsheets back in the day;-)

MarkTiarra · 08-28-2005, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradShaw

I remember Mark selling his magic spreadsheets back in the day;-)

I don't know about magic but alot of people still use them to help make decisions. I've got updated versions of course.

So Shap... are we going to speak on this??? I sent ya an email. =]

Shap · 11-23-2005, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkTiarra

I don't know about magic but alot of people still use them to help make decisions. I've got updated versions of course.

So Shap... are we going to speak on this??? I sent ya an email. =]

Shit Mark i never got the email and i missed this post. Emailing you now.

mammy · 11-24-2005, 08:24 AM

www.reflectedideas.com can help u with design
we have good skills
and nice prices;)

lakroze · 11-24-2005, 08:47 AM

bump for ya guys - good oportunity

Grapesoda · 11-24-2005, 09:42 AM

Shap,
go with the 'dynamic tours' they were speaking of at the webmaster access west. cookie the surfer and deliver the girls he's 'clicking on' in the tours, then dump him to 'that content' when he/she joins. Seems like the way to go to me . . .

Over and out -bmb

Shap · 11-24-2005, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmb

Shap,
go with the 'dynamic tours' they were speaking of at the webmaster access west. cookie the surfer and deliver the girls he's 'clicking on' in the tours, then dump him to 'that content' when he/she joins. Seems like the way to go to me . . .

Over and out -bmb

Hey Brian I didn't hear anyone speak of that at webmaster access. But that is definitely something we have put into works a while ago. It should be ready soon ;)

jack.nasty · 11-24-2005, 12:11 PM

Mail sent

Grapesoda · 11-24-2005, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shap

Hey Brian I didn't hear anyone speak of that at webmaster access. But that is definitely something we have put into works a while ago. It should be ready soon ;)

Shap, I have no social skills what-so-ever so I went to the dumb forums instead. But I got my $75 worth since I live about 4 block from universal . . .

Be well, over and out -bmb (btw missed you at glamercon)

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