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Old 09-07-2005, 03:44 PM   #1
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Was Popeye a cleverly disguised marketing tool created by Spinach Farmers

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what about superman and kryptonite ?
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what about superman and telephone booths?
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or what about the teenage mutant ninja turtles and the pizza industry ?
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you must be stoned, but you raise a very valid question actually
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what about ******* and the peanut butter industry?
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or what about the teenage mutant ninja turtles and the pizza industry ?
You make a good point, but I think that you're comparing apples to oranges on this one.
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Old 09-07-2005, 04:14 PM   #10
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You make a good point, but I think that you're comparing apples to oranges on this one.
no way man, it's the same thing i believe...

the Turtles were always eating pizza, that was their favorite food. pizza pizza pizza

Popeye was always eating spinach...it "made him stronger" i'm sure kids didnt go out eating assload of spinach after watch the cartoons. kids dont like spinach. I know i didnt when I was younger.

with the ninja turtles always eating pizza and then going out and kicking ass, i'm sure more kids wanted pizza after watching it than kids wanting spinach after watching Popeye.
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Old 09-07-2005, 04:17 PM   #11
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Actually, the Popeye cartoons stemmed from Popeye ads to promote spinach..
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Actually, the Popeye cartoons stemmed from Popeye ads to promote spinach..
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Popeye made his first public appearance on January 17, 1929 in Elzie Segar's then 10-year-old comic strip, "Thimble Theatre," which originally revolved around Olive Oyl's family. Popeye quickly eclipsed older characters to become the star of the strip. With Popeye came a host of new, off-beat funny folks such as Swee'Pea, the "infink" Popeye adopted; J. Wellington Wimpy, the world's most hamburger-obsessed moocher; and Brutus, the hairy "heavy" with the glass jaw. Segar had a genius for creating strong, memorable characters the entire world knows and loves.
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If it wasn't for Popeye,I wouldn't have eaten it when I was growing up.I actually love the stuff
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no way man, it's the same thing i believe...

the Turtles were always eating pizza, that was their favorite food. pizza pizza pizza

Popeye was always eating spinach...it "made him stronger" i'm sure kids didnt go out eating assload of spinach after watch the cartoons. kids dont like spinach. I know i didnt when I was younger.

with the ninja turtles always eating pizza and then going out and kicking ass, i'm sure more kids wanted pizza after watching it than kids wanting spinach after watching Popeye.
Well, while you present a good argument, it doesn't work that way. Heres why: Pizza ingredients and pizza itself is such a large industry, there are too many things that go into making a pizza for one company or industry to really benefit. For example, what kind of pizza did they eat? Do you know? I don't. Who would be benefitting most? Farmers who grew grain to make dough? No. Tomato farmers who grew tomatoes for the sauce? No. Not the same.

Spinach on the other hand, is a very small industry that could benefit as a whole by a surge in spinach consumption. Combine that with the fact that they get government subsidization and that the government also is in control of the Navy, and you have a cartoon character that eats spinach and is in the Navy. All of the sudden you get a spinach sales boom and an influx of kids ages 4-12 registering for Naval positions. It makes perfect sense.
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Interesting link, but I am going to find the .gov link that has the declassified CIA files with their elaborate plan for building up a huge Navy in preperation for World War II and an unprecedented spike in spinach sales.
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it was made to increase spinach comsumption due to his low price, easeness of serving/packaging and nutritive values. AFAIK, this wasn't made up by farmers, but US government itself. Popeye was the stereotypical propaganda hero, later, he was used by UK propaganda as well

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0152556/
http://www.mtcnet.net/~bierly/popcarball.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/science/k2/moments/s301760.htm

however, there's a theory about spinach being another name for marijuana, which is quite funded. Either way, the first Popeye's strips had little use of spinach, and it became a central feature of the character in 1931

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Well, while you present a good argument, it doesn't work that way. Heres why: Pizza ingredients and pizza itself is such a large industry, there are too many things that go into making a pizza for one company or industry to really benefit. For example, what kind of pizza did they eat? Do you know? I don't. Who would be benefitting most? Farmers who grew grain to make dough? No. Tomato farmers who grew tomatoes for the sauce? No. Not the same.

Spinach on the other hand, is a very small industry that could benefit as a whole by a surge in spinach consumption. Combine that with the fact that they get government subsidization and that the government also is in control of the Navy, and you have a cartoon character that eats spinach and is in the Navy. All of the sudden you get a spinach sales boom and an influx of kids ages 4-12 registering for Naval positions. It makes perfect sense.
I highly doubt that children would want to eat spinach after watching Popeye. children have no money, they cannot buy products they get brainwashed into their minds as they watch tv. however, they can nag their parents to buy them certain products. Now a kid wanting to eat some pizza will nag a parent to death to order some, pizza is food that is accepted openly by all ages, its hot, delicious, and comes in tons of different varieties.
Spinach comes in one or two different styles, you have to cook it, it takes a long time. no kids are going to eat spinach man. the target market for spinach is old people.

The ninja turtles = come off as "cool" to children, children like to imitate what they see because imitation is the most sincere form of flattery and childrens minds are very impressionable. they see the TMNT eating pizza, naturally they will want to do the same thing. its all about psychology and marketing.

Spinach does not appeal to children.


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U.S. fresh-market spinach consumption has been increasing over the past few decades. Basic knowledge of the distribution of spinach consumption across different market channels, geographic regions, and population groups has been very limited in the past. Using data from USDA's 1994-96 and 1998 Continuing Survey of Food Intakes by Individuals, this article examines the consumption distribution of fresh-market and processed spinach in the United States. The analysis indicates that per capita spinach consumption is greatest in the Northeast and West. About 80 percent of fresh-market spinach is purchased at retail and consumed at home, while 91 percent of processed spinach is consumed at home. Per capita spinach use is strongest among Asians, highest among women 40 and older, and weakest among teenage girls.
http://www.ers.usda.gov/publications...an04/vgs30001/

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I highly doubt that children would want to eat spinach after watching Popeye. children have no money, they cannot buy products they get brainwashed into their minds as they watch tv. however, they can nag their parents to buy them certain products.
That is how the spinach industry works. The kid sees their favorite daytime cartoon hero consuming vast amounts of the spinach food and beating up the bully, and immediately they feel a sense of spinach need and have their parents buy it. One the spinach food is firmly in their grasp, they squeeze the can and the spinach flies out, the kid eats the spinach, flexes their muscles, takes a puff off their corncob pipe, and quickly defeats the bully on the playground who was just moments earlier stealing their chocolate pudding with force. After that, they join the Navy and do the same thing to the Nazis in World War II. Izzy Sparber then directs a movie out of it starring Jack Mercer as the voice of Popeye. It all makes perfect sense.

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That is how the spinach industry works. The kid sees their favorite daytime cartoon hero consuming vast amounts of the spinach food and beating up the bully, and immediately they feel a sense of spinach need and have their parents buy it. One the spinach food is firmly in their grasp, they squeeze the can and the spinach flies out, the kid eats the spinach, flexes their muscles, takes a puff off their corncob pipe, and quickly defeats the bully on the playground who was just moments earlier stealing their chocolate pudding with force. After that, they join the Navy and do the same thing to the Nazis in World War II. Izzy Sparber then directs a movie out of it starring Jack Mercer as the voice of Popeye. It all makes perfect sense.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0152556/
seems as if you have unlocked the secret to spinach
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what about superman and telephone booths?
actually i don't think this has something to do
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I always wondered if anyone else had figured out the spinach conspiracy, I didn't want to say anything for fear I was the only one who knew the true grand scale of it all
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What do you think?

The Smoking Gun has a whole part of their site dedicated to it.
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I always wondered if anyone else had figured out the spinach conspiracy, I didn't want to say anything for fear I was the only one who knew the true grand scale of it all
It's only the beginning. Rubber tires are another subject that I might expose soon.
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I love spinach (and always have), and Popeye was a favorite cartoon of mine.
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or what about the teenage mutant ninja turtles and the pizza industry ?
It must have seriously helped the industry thought... fact lol
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I love spinach (and always have), and Popeye was a favorite cartoon of mine.
Have you had vegetarian pizza with feta cheese and spinach?
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no way man, it's the same thing i believe...

the Turtles were always eating pizza, that was their favorite food. pizza pizza pizza

Popeye was always eating spinach...it "made him stronger" i'm sure kids didnt go out eating assload of spinach after watch the cartoons. kids dont like spinach. I know i didnt when I was younger.

with the ninja turtles always eating pizza and then going out and kicking ass, i'm sure more kids wanted pizza after watching it than kids wanting spinach after watching Popeye.
It's true, I remember my pizza daily intake was huge when the Turtles were hot.
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Have you had vegetarian pizza with feta cheese and spinach?
no, but I love spinach souffle
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Well, while you present a good argument, it doesn't work that way. Heres why: Pizza ingredients and pizza itself is such a large industry, there are too many things that go into making a pizza for one company or industry to really benefit. For example, what kind of pizza did they eat? Do you know? I don't. Who would be benefitting most? Farmers who grew grain to make dough? No. Tomato farmers who grew tomatoes for the sauce? No. Not the same.

Spinach on the other hand, is a very small industry that could benefit as a whole by a surge in spinach consumption. Combine that with the fact that they get government subsidization and that the government also is in control of the Navy, and you have a cartoon character that eats spinach and is in the Navy. All of the sudden you get a spinach sales boom and an influx of kids ages 4-12 registering for Naval positions. It makes perfect sense.
Don't tell me you don't know about the pizza cartel.

They manipulate prices and squeeze the producers.

I've heard they also have a powerfull lobbying machine in DC but that is just rumors.
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So was the Toxic Avenger just a marketing tool for "Del Taco?"
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