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woj · 11-05-2005, 12:07 AM

200........

phonesex · 11-05-2005, 02:47 AM

pardon me, do you have a brain?

cc123 · 11-05-2005, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ciao bella

THIS DUDE O3NEZ YOU PEICES OF CRAP
HAHAHA N UR KISSING HIS ARSE
PWNED

wedouglas · 11-05-2005, 01:03 PM

Extorting 200 dollars a month...

.

Put your knowledge to good use. I wipe my ass with $200 and I'm sure you could do if you put all your effort into something useful.

Dirty F · 11-05-2005, 03:22 PM

Should be tell him to find the thread where dipshit err i mean deepsy tried to pull the same shit. And also tell him he cant post anymore because he is in jail?

explr · 11-05-2005, 08:22 PM

Here's your chance to bust this motherfucker

anyone see what i see? well if you dont, look closer.

if someone from lightspeedcash would follow up on that member username, you could find out his servers ip address and then backtrace from there

good luck

pornstar2pac · 11-05-2005, 08:35 PM

I think porn will go broke over this

Linguist · 11-05-2005, 08:52 PM

Why go through all this trouble to extort $200 a month?...

Ciao bella · 11-05-2005, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phonesex

pardon me, do you have a brain?

Who signore? I own, run, maintain & profit substantially from one of the biggest password message boards on the internet. Signore Shap, singore Lightspeed & signore Sanchez from bang.bro's are marketing wizards while you struggle with phone sex. Ask yourself your own question stupido.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck

Should be tell him to find the thread where dipshit err i mean deepsy tried to pull the same shit. And also tell him he cant post anymore because he is in jail?

Signore, where have you seen me post my email, paypal or epassport for payment? You are a 28,000 post stupido!

Bravo the porn industry, Bravo!
Bravo for stupidos like Franck!

Ciao bella

Ciao bella · 11-05-2005, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornstar2pac

I think porn will go broke over this

Hopefully not signore, you're our source of income. How will you ever stop us? I know signore, you cant!

Bravo the porn industry, Bravo!
Bravo for uneducated adult webmasters!

Ciao bella

Ciao bella · 11-05-2005, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by explr

Here's your chance to bust this motherfucker

anyone see what i see? well if you dont, look closer.

if someone from lightspeedcash would follow up on that member username, you could find out his servers ip address and then backtrace from there

good luck

You are a fool signore! The user name belongs to signore Lightspeeds client. The account was cracked with a proxy from Mexico. Each response I read from you simpletons is more dumber.

Bravo the porn industry, Bravo!
Bravo for imbisouls like explr! Webmaster with your lack of knowledge makes our job easy!

Ciao bella

Ciao bella · 11-05-2005, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shap

Thanks for the heads up. Could you email me at shap at twistys.com. I have a few things i'd like to discuss with you.

Signore Shap, We do not like to converse with webmasters on a personal level. Can you briefly tell me what you would like to discuss?

Bravo the porn industry, Bravo!

Ciao bella

Ciao bella · 11-05-2005, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toddler

i can't believe you people are even slightly surprised about this. pw based security, especially on the web, is a joke and has been for a long time.

security will always be a problem, not even really due to the technology, but due to the people. its the same old argument of security vs usability. the closest thing to worthwhile i've seen in the recent past is certificate based authentication, and even that has holes.

but no, you stil in your little world thinking all is secure, and then get pissed when someone comes in and pisses on your parade.

Some of you pirate software/movies/music and are proud of yourself, but then get all huffy when someone cracks your 'security'. Karma's a bitch huh?

Signore toddler, We laugh reading how successful some are when their billing company logs reveal a different tale. There is a abundance of illegal activity some of these webmasters are involved in. Hai ragione signore, maybe they can recover their websites loss peddling all their pirated software & stolen property.

Bravo the porn industry, Bravo!

Ciao bella

Ciao bella · 11-05-2005, 11:00 PM

Ciao bella · 11-05-2005, 11:01 PM

Bravo the porn industry, Bravo!

Ciao bella

darksoul · 11-06-2005, 12:56 AM

wow, some true level of ownage here.
Fact is, webmasters know jack shit and don't care till shit hits the fans.

pornstar2pac · 11-06-2005, 01:00 AM

like I said, this is GFY thread of the year

darksoul · 11-06-2005, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornstar2pac

like I said, this is GFY thread of the year

No its not, maybe for comics
other than that nothing new in this thread.

KCat · 11-06-2005, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toddler

i can't believe you people are even slightly surprised about this. pw based security, especially on the web, is a joke and has been for a long time.

security will always be a problem, not even really due to the technology, but due to the people. its the same old argument of security vs usability. the closest thing to worthwhile i've seen in the recent past is certificate based authentication, and even that has holes.

but no, you stil in your little world thinking all is secure, and then get pissed when someone comes in and pisses on your parade.

Some of you pirate software/movies/music and are proud of yourself, but then get all huffy when someone cracks your 'security'. Karma's a bitch huh?

You said it...security will always be a problem. So what is a paysite owner's reaction supposed to be? I'm not surprised by this, but I sure as hell can't afford to spend a ton of money on a security system that is bound to be cracked anyways. There is no solution. Add extra hoops for paying members to jump through & your retention is going to go down & hackers will still find a way in.

pornstar2pac · 11-06-2005, 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darksoul

No its not, maybe for comics
other than that nothing new in this thread.

really, even shap is suprised. shap is no newbie

darksoul · 11-06-2005, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornstar2pac

really, even shap is suprised. shap is no newbie

I don't know shap but by the look of his site
seems he's a newb.
Ofcourse he knows his shit when it comes to marketing and
whatever he does good but he surely has no clue about server stuff.
Its ok, nobody can be good at everything.

Radik · 11-06-2005, 01:33 AM

so if someone posted his pictures of the board (on a surfer board) how long do you think it would take before someone gave up the address.

High Quality · 11-06-2005, 01:51 AM

I love reading this thread.

Like bandwidth bills cost anythign these days.

For every e|337 hacker there are 1000 nub surfers who dont know anything.

Look at how much money M$ makes despite the huge piracy of everything they own.

hackers & crackers will always exist. Ciao proved it. We can still make lots of money in this game

jayeff · 11-06-2005, 02:47 AM

On the face of it, this kind of thread seems like an extraordinary indictment of our industry. What else could such weak member-area security be except a consequence of poor management? But there are two things to consider...

The first is that the owners of a retail store - for example - can accurately measure their losses due to various types of theft, and they can also calculate the cost of and savings resulting from measures intended to reduce theft. Thus they can apply such measures as are cost-effective and budget the practically unavoidable thefts as an expense.

We know password trading sites exist. We know their activities cost paysites bandwidth and we strongly suspect they cost them sales. But we do not have any way to quantify these losses and therefore no way to know what security measures might be cost-effective. So what to do? Good management isn't acting simply for the sake of being seen to be doing something, but acting in a way which demonstrably improves profitability.

And then there is the nature of our industry at this moment in time. It isn't made up of corporations with legal responsibilities and answerable to shareholders. Because this is still a young industry, many people in it have made, are making, far more money than just a few years ago they ever imagined: despite the password traders and all the other leaks. Yes, by absolute standards their management may be poor, but so what? They could learn and apply some new skills or hire those skills and add some points to their bottom lines as a result. But if that meant diverting part of their time and energies away from the things they enjoy doing and believe make them the big money, I seriously doubt many would be interested.

So what does someone like Ciao bella really have to gloat over? By his own admission he is hacking systems with minimal security, so what he is doing isn't much of a technical achievement. And sooner or later he risks falling foul of the law when he likely could make as much or more money legitimately.

The bottom line is that he is no better than any other kind of small-time thief and while he might be an irritant, the people from whom he is stealing will still be making serious money, long after he has been shut down.

nofx · 11-06-2005, 03:13 AM

Ciao bella you're the reason the internet should exist

chronic avenger · 11-06-2005, 04:09 AM

Going to smoke a blunt now.

Tipsy · 11-06-2005, 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayeff

On the face of it, this kind of thread seems like an extraordinary indictment of our industry. What else could such weak member-area security be except a consequence of poor management? But there are two things to consider...

The first is that the owners of a retail store - for example - can accurately measure their losses due to various types of theft, and they can also calculate the cost of and savings resulting from measures intended to reduce theft. Thus they can apply such measures as are cost-effective and budget the practically unavoidable thefts as an expense.

We know password trading sites exist. We know their activities cost paysites bandwidth and we strongly suspect they cost them sales. But we do not have any way to quantify these losses and therefore no way to know what security measures might be cost-effective. So what to do? Good management isn't acting simply for the sake of being seen to be doing something, but acting in a way which demonstrably improves profitability.

And then there is the nature of our industry at this moment in time. It isn't made up of corporations with legal responsibilities and answerable to shareholders. Because this is still a young industry, many people in it have made, are making, far more money than just a few years ago they ever imagined: despite the password traders and all the other leaks. Yes, by absolute standards their management may be poor, but so what? They could learn and apply some new skills or hire those skills and add some points to their bottom lines as a result. But if that meant diverting part of their time and energies away from the things they enjoy doing and believe make them the big money, I seriously doubt many would be interested.

So what does someone like Ciao bella really have to gloat over? By his own admission he is hacking systems with minimal security, so what he is doing isn't much of a technical achievement. And sooner or later he risks falling foul of the law when he likely could make as much or more money legitimately.

The bottom line is that he is no better than any other kind of small-time thief and while he might be an irritant, the people from whom he is stealing will still be making serious money, long after he has been shut down.

Which really sums it all up perfectly. The guy is here laughing at how he can illegally access sites and extort money for a teeny $200 a pop. Who's the real idiot? Funny thread just to see how many other idiots think this guy is in any way 'clever'.

Fuck, I hope I never become so poor that I have to turn to theft and extortion for $200. When I do I'll know I really have hit rock bottom.

explr · 11-06-2005, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ciao bella

You are a fool signore! The user name belongs to signore Lightspeeds client. The account was cracked with a proxy from Mexico. Each response I read from you simpletons is more dumber.

Bravo the porn industry, Bravo!
Bravo for imbisouls like explr! Webmaster with your lack of knowledge makes our job easy!

Ciao bella

i think you're full of shit

you know you screwed up when you posted that username in the screenshot, and now you're trying to make it seem like you have everything under control

someone from lightspeed really should follow up on that username and see what you can find

justsexxx · 11-06-2005, 04:19 PM

Again, I have no doubt you can get in. HOWEVER, how long does the average password KEEP working....

Young · 11-06-2005, 04:32 PM

There are hundreds of password forums and community's on the web. Pay this fucker off and you'll be faced with thousands of copy cats and wannabes.

Exactly why you're not supposed to negotiate with these low-lifes.

He's just a small piece of the pie.

KingK7 · 11-06-2005, 04:33 PM

I am willing to bet this clown is not from Italy, his english is way too advanced for that, even though he tries to hide it with this "Signore" bullshit.

Savaged00d · 11-07-2005, 07:23 AM

Hello. First let me introduce myself. I'm yet another, how you like to call them "hacker". Only difference is, that ciaobella is a poor script kiddie bruteforcer that learned to operate senty/AD/caecus and the likes, and now he thinks he owns the world. I've followed the conversation thus far from outside as many of us do, since we always keep a close eye on all webmaster boards, and didn't interfere untill i saw some of you started "believeing" this clown.

It's true most of you dont know the first thing about security, so what he wrote might seem "Advanced" to you, but that's all kiddie stuff. Half of that was even described in a bruteforce tutorial that comes with one cracking tool. "Ciao bella" is a moron and a newbie. I like how he posts screenshots of his board wiht "200" pages of replies or what not. He probably has 5 replies per page and the thread in a continuous one. With that setup, i know much larger forums that would rack that up to 1000's. Another thing i like is how he speaks for "all" crackers. Another bullshit. There's shitload of more boards and crackers. Paying to him for "stoping to bruteforce your site" (HA HA) wouldn't make up for a single thing in your breached logins. Most of the stuff he wrote was bullshit.
"logs of billing companies???" - Like he has access to any of the billing company. He'd be advertising to them, not to you if he had.
"Ip from mexico bla bla, bullshit bullshit" - Just a proxy found on any cracker board

And last thing. Since he must know most of us actually read this stuff, and we obliterate from internet anyone that contacts with webmasters (as that's the first and most important rule of this trade) he's hiding his board name. We have our world, you have yours. We do this stuff cause of the challenge, not cause of the financial gain (not talking about puny brutefocing). And when we find out the url of his board, you can be sure he'll see what DDoS actually feels like, and how it feels to have your bandwidth sucked right infront of you in a matter of minutes. We'll handle our stray sheep.

Bye

CDSmith · 11-07-2005, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayeff

So what does someone like Ciao bella really have to gloat over? By his own admission he is hacking systems with minimal security, so what he is doing isn't much of a technical achievement. And sooner or later he risks falling foul of the law when he likely could make as much or more money legitimately.

The bottom line is that he is no better than any other kind of small-time thief and while he might be an irritant, the people from whom he is stealing will still be making serious money, long after he has been shut down.

Here here.

To that end, last time I checked, Extortion was still a crime. In some countries a rather serious one.

cranki · 11-07-2005, 07:33 AM

can sb sum this shit up, I don't want to work through all those worthless postings...

flashfreak · 11-07-2005, 07:40 AM

ciao bella : the end is near.

there was a fucktard like you from Israel last year, he used to threat webmasters to put down their servers. even gfy was down few hours.
he won some $$$, right now he's in jail.

I wish you the same

Dirty F · 11-07-2005, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savaged00d

Hello. First let me introduce myself. I'm yet another, how you like to call them "hacker". Only difference is, that ciaobella is a poor script kiddie bruteforcer that learned to operate senty/AD/caecus and the likes, and now he thinks he owns the world. I've followed the conversation thus far from outside as many of us do, since we always keep a close eye on all webmaster boards, and didn't interfere untill i saw some of you started "believeing" this clown.

It's true most of you dont know the first thing about security, so what he wrote might seem "Advanced" to you, but that's all kiddie stuff. Half of that was even described in a bruteforce tutorial that comes with one cracking tool. "Ciao bella" is a moron and a newbie. I like how he posts screenshots of his board wiht "200" pages of replies or what not. He probably has 5 replies per page and the thread in a continuous one. With that setup, i know much larger forums that would rack that up to 1000's. Another thing i like is how he speaks for "all" crackers. Another bullshit. There's shitload of more boards and crackers. Paying to him for "stoping to bruteforce your site" (HA HA) wouldn't make up for a single thing in your breached logins. Most of the stuff he wrote was bullshit.
"logs of billing companies???" - Like he has access to any of the billing company. He'd be advertising to them, not to you if he had.
"Ip from mexico bla bla, bullshit bullshit" - Just a proxy found on any cracker board

And last thing. Since he must know most of us actually read this stuff, and we obliterate from internet anyone that contacts with webmasters (as that's the first and most important rule of this trade) he's hiding his board name. We have our world, you have yours. We do this stuff cause of the challenge, not cause of the financial gain (not talking about puny brutefocing). And when we find out the url of his board, you can be sure he'll see what DDoS actually feels like, and how it feels to have your bandwidth sucked right infront of you in a matter of minutes. We'll handle our stray sheep.

Bye

Ya i'm pretty sure youre right. Its obvious its a kid. An arrogant one. He will end up in jail sooner or later. He will grow up there.

Anyway, more important: Can i request some cracked passes

tenderobject · 11-07-2005, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flashfreak

ciao bella : the end is near.

there was a fucktard like you from Israel last year, he used to threat webmasters to put down their servers. even gfy was down few hours.
he won some $$$, right now he's in jail.

I wish you the same

is this true? post the link

wedouglas · 11-07-2005, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savaged00d

Hello. First let me introduce myself. I'm yet another, how you like to call them "hacker". Only difference is, that ciaobella is a poor script kiddie bruteforcer that learned to operate senty/AD/caecus and the likes, and now he thinks he owns the world. I've followed the conversation thus far from outside as many of us do, since we always keep a close eye on all webmaster boards, and didn't interfere untill i saw some of you started "believeing" this clown.

It's true most of you dont know the first thing about security, so what he wrote might seem "Advanced" to you, but that's all kiddie stuff. Half of that was even described in a bruteforce tutorial that comes with one cracking tool. "Ciao bella" is a moron and a newbie. I like how he posts screenshots of his board wiht "200" pages of replies or what not. He probably has 5 replies per page and the thread in a continuous one. With that setup, i know much larger forums that would rack that up to 1000's. Another thing i like is how he speaks for "all" crackers. Another bullshit. There's shitload of more boards and crackers. Paying to him for "stoping to bruteforce your site" (HA HA) wouldn't make up for a single thing in your breached logins. Most of the stuff he wrote was bullshit.
"logs of billing companies???" - Like he has access to any of the billing company. He'd be advertising to them, not to you if he had.
"Ip from mexico bla bla, bullshit bullshit" - Just a proxy found on any cracker board

And last thing. Since he must know most of us actually read this stuff, and we obliterate from internet anyone that contacts with webmasters (as that's the first and most important rule of this trade) he's hiding his board name. We have our world, you have yours. We do this stuff cause of the challenge, not cause of the financial gain (not talking about puny brutefocing). And when we find out the url of his board, you can be sure he'll see what DDoS actually feels like, and how it feels to have your bandwidth sucked right infront of you in a matter of minutes. We'll handle our stray sheep.

Bye

Haha. If that is true, he so just got owned.

KCat · 11-07-2005, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savaged00d

Hello. First let me introduce myself. I'm yet another, how you like to call them "hacker". Only difference is, that ciaobella is a poor script kiddie bruteforcer that learned to operate senty/AD/caecus and the likes, and now he thinks he owns the world. I've followed the conversation thus far from outside as many of us do, since we always keep a close eye on all webmaster boards, and didn't interfere untill i saw some of you started "believeing" this clown.

It's true most of you dont know the first thing about security, so what he wrote might seem "Advanced" to you, but that's all kiddie stuff. Half of that was even described in a bruteforce tutorial that comes with one cracking tool. "Ciao bella" is a moron and a newbie. I like how he posts screenshots of his board wiht "200" pages of replies or what not. He probably has 5 replies per page and the thread in a continuous one. With that setup, i know much larger forums that would rack that up to 1000's. Another thing i like is how he speaks for "all" crackers. Another bullshit. There's shitload of more boards and crackers. Paying to him for "stoping to bruteforce your site" (HA HA) wouldn't make up for a single thing in your breached logins. Most of the stuff he wrote was bullshit.
"logs of billing companies???" - Like he has access to any of the billing company. He'd be advertising to them, not to you if he had.
"Ip from mexico bla bla, bullshit bullshit" - Just a proxy found on any cracker board

And last thing. Since he must know most of us actually read this stuff, and we obliterate from internet anyone that contacts with webmasters (as that's the first and most important rule of this trade) he's hiding his board name. We have our world, you have yours. We do this stuff cause of the challenge, not cause of the financial gain (not talking about puny brutefocing). And when we find out the url of his board, you can be sure he'll see what DDoS actually feels like, and how it feels to have your bandwidth sucked right infront of you in a matter of minutes. We'll handle our stray sheep.

Bye

Reading this got me hot. I love real geeks.

adultchica · 11-07-2005, 11:06 AM

Ciao Bella is really an 18 yr old college nerd boy sitting in his dorm room hacking shit to feel better

bashbug · 11-07-2005, 11:12 AM

heh funny shit. hes hoping sponsors will pay him, to secure shit. htaccess cant be secured. unless you make longer harder to break username passes. easy passwords are crackable. if everyone switched to image verify would solve a lot of problems.

MattO · 11-07-2005, 11:21 AM

Right now I'm sitting in the office of a billing company, where I work a few days a week as part of the programming team for their system's back end.

I must say, we've all been having a good laugh at this retarded fucking thread.

Program owners have more to worry about with chargebacks than with script kiddies who don't have credit cards of their own trying to gain access to their sites.

Ciao bella · 11-07-2005, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayeff

On the face of it, this kind of thread seems like an extraordinary indictment of our industry. What else could such weak member-area security be except a consequence of poor management? But there are two things to consider...

The first is that the owners of a retail store - for example - can accurately measure their losses due to various types of theft, and they can also calculate the cost of and savings resulting from measures intended to reduce theft. Thus they can apply such measures as are cost-effective and budget the practically unavoidable thefts as an expense.

We know password trading sites exist. We know their activities cost paysites bandwidth and we strongly suspect they cost them sales. But we do not have any way to quantify these losses and therefore no way to know what security measures might be cost-effective. So what to do? Good management isn't acting simply for the sake of being seen to be doing something, but acting in a way which demonstrably improves profitability.

And then there is the nature of our industry at this moment in time. It isn't made up of corporations with legal responsibilities and answerable to shareholders. Because this is still a young industry, many people in it have made, are making, far more money than just a few years ago they ever imagined: despite the password traders and all the other leaks. Yes, by absolute standards their management may be poor, but so what? They could learn and apply some new skills or hire those skills and add some points to their bottom lines as a result. But if that meant diverting part of their time and energies away from the things they enjoy doing and believe make them the big money, I seriously doubt many would be interested.

So what does someone like Ciao bella really have to gloat over? By his own admission he is hacking systems with minimal security, so what he is doing isn't much of a technical achievement. And sooner or later he risks falling foul of the law when he likely could make as much or more money legitimately.

The bottom line is that he is no better than any other kind of small-time thief and while he might be an irritant, the people from whom he is stealing will still be making serious money, long after he has been shut down.

Signore, we've been in business since 2002. Our security, anonymity, & clients with .edu credentials will continue to rise & succeed. Our profit margin had risen 8% from last semister. We laugh at you saying we crack sites with minimal security. Many sites I've posted consist of better than adverage security. Suppose you consider Strongbox minimal security? It's funny how some attempt to factually & moralistically justify when proof is displayed. Face it signore, you all do not have the education to stop us.

Bravo the porn industry, Bravo!

Ciao bella

Ciao bella · 11-07-2005, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nofx

Ciao bella you're the reason the internet should exist

Bravo the porn industry, Bravo!

Ciao bella

Ciao bella · 11-07-2005, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by explr

i think you're full of shit

you know you screwed up when you posted that username in the screenshot, and now you're trying to make it seem like you have everything under control

someone from lightspeed really should follow up on that username and see what you can find

Stupido simpleton, you missed Deluxepass! Fare gli onori di casa signore!

Ciao bella · 11-07-2005, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justsexxx

Again, I have no doubt you can get in. HOWEVER, how long does the average password KEEP working....

Signore justsexxx, We crack numerous users & passes per paysite. Our threads are updated 2/3 times a week. Implementing our CGI & other proxy IP's, passes last longer. 1 dies, it's replaced with 10 more.

Bravo the porn industry, Bravo!

Ciao bella

NoWhErE · 11-07-2005, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingK7

I am willing to bet this clown is not from Italy, his english is way too advanced for that, even though he tries to hide it with this "Signore" bullshit.

You're right. I've lived with true Italians for a little over a year, and never did I hear them talk like that. What he has is a mix of Italian and Spanish.

He's obviously some poser

Ciao bella · 11-07-2005, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flashfreak

ciao bella : the end is near.

there was a fucktard like you from Israel last year, he used to threat webmasters to put down their servers. even gfy was down few hours.
he won some $$$, right now he's in jail.

I wish you the same

Signore, as mentioned to Franck, where have you read me posting paypal or epassport for payment? Adds flashfreak to our extensive list of retarded GFY webmasters.

Ciao bella · 11-07-2005, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tipsy

Which really sums it all up perfectly. The guy is here laughing at how he can illegally access sites and extort money for a teeny $200 a pop. Who's the real idiot? Funny thread just to see how many other idiots think this guy is in any way 'clever'.

Fuck, I hope I never become so poor that I have to turn to theft and extortion for $200. When I do I'll know I really have hit rock bottom.

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultchica

Ciao Bella is really an 18 yr old college nerd boy sitting in his dorm room hacking shit to feel better

Quote:

Originally Posted by bashbug

heh funny shit. hes hoping sponsors will pay him, to secure shit. htaccess cant be secured. unless you make longer harder to break username passes. easy passwords are crackable. if everyone switched to image verify would solve a lot of problems.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattO

Right now I'm sitting in the office of a billing company, where I work a few days a week as part of the programming team for their system's back end.

I must say, we've all been having a good laugh at this retarded fucking thread.

Program owners have more to worry about with chargebacks than with script kiddies who don't have credit cards of their own trying to gain access to their sites.

Signora & gentiluomo, skiddie, fucktard, loser Ciao bella is doing good for himself. Met a lovely client & colleague of yours in Atlantic City yesterday. We disussed website security. Our flight to Canada leaves this evening. Grazie infinite adult webmasters! You all talk alot & I am the only one showing proof! Those who last last laugh hardest signore. Grazie for the vacation!

Bravo the porn industry, Bravo!

Ciao bella

Taboo · 11-07-2005, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savaged00d

And last thing. Since he must know most of us actually read this stuff, and we obliterate from internet anyone that contacts with webmasters (as that's the first and most important rule of this trade) he's hiding his board name. We have our world, you have yours. We do this stuff cause of the challenge, not cause of the financial gain (not talking about puny brutefocing). And when we find out the url of his board, you can be sure he'll see what DDoS actually feels like, and how it feels to have your bandwidth sucked right infront of you in a matter of minutes. We'll handle our stray sheep.

Bye

Love that fucking paragraph... like the fucking mafia or something. If you don't mind, I'm gonna add some of that to my screenplay.

Savaged00d is like the fucking CLEANER or something.

Savaged00d is what? hmmm?

???

or

???

no... he's probably a fucking NINJA!

We'll handle our stray sheep.

Love that shit. More, Bravo Signore!

Wonder why Ciao bella hasn't replied to Savaged00d yet? C'mon guys, where's the drama... everyone knows when "Hackers Collide" everyone goes down.

but please leave me out of this shit... I know the people from hack.tivity... I have guardian angels.

.

11-05-2005, 12:07 AM	#201
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11-05-2005, 02:47 AM	#202
phonesex Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Phone Sex Pays! Believe it! Posts: 3,437	pardon me, do you have a brain? __________________ Phone Sex Pays Make $1.50 a minute! CLICK HERE TO SIGN UP NOW

11-05-2005, 08:35 PM	#207
pornstar2pac Omaha Hi/Lo Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 17,380	I think porn will go broke over this __________________ Trump haters gonna hate. that's all they can do

11-05-2005, 08:52 PM	#208
Linguist Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 1,706	Why go through all this trouble to extort $200 a month?... __________________ 315-310

11-06-2005, 12:56 AM	#216
darksoul Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: /root/ Posts: 4,997	wow, some true level of ownage here. Fact is, webmasters know jack shit and don't care till shit hits the fans. __________________ 1337 5y54\|)m1n: 157717888 BM-2cUBw4B2fgiYAfjkE7JvWaJMiUXD96n9tN Cambooth

11-05-2005, 01:03 PM	#204
wedouglas So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Dearborn, MI Posts: 5,921	Extorting 200 dollars a month... . Put your knowledge to good use. I wipe my ass with $200 and I'm sure you could do if you put all your effort into something useful.

11-05-2005, 03:22 PM	#205
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Should be tell him to find the thread where dipshit err i mean deepsy tried to pull the same shit. And also tell him he cant post anymore because he is in jail?

11-05-2005, 08:22 PM	#206
explr Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 7	Here's your chance to bust this motherfucker anyone see what i see? well if you dont, look closer. if someone from lightspeedcash would follow up on that member username, you could find out his servers ip address and then backtrace from there good luck

11-05-2005, 11:00 PM	#214
Ciao bella So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 175

11-05-2005, 11:01 PM	#215
Ciao bella So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 175	Bravo the porn industry, Bravo! Ciao bella

11-06-2005, 01:00 AM	#217
pornstar2pac Omaha Hi/Lo Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 17,380	like I said, this is GFY thread of the year __________________ Trump haters gonna hate. that's all they can do

11-06-2005, 01:33 AM	#222
Radik Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Vancouver ICQ: 3588423 Posts: 808	so if someone posted his pictures of the board (on a surfer board) how long do you think it would take before someone gave up the address. __________________ 100% Exclusive, Check Us Out!

11-06-2005, 01:51 AM	#223
High Quality Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 5,741	I love reading this thread. Like bandwidth bills cost anythign these days. For every e\|337 hacker there are 1000 nub surfers who dont know anything. Look at how much money M$ makes despite the huge piracy of everything they own. hackers & crackers will always exist. Ciao proved it. We can still make lots of money in this game __________________ RecurCash.com - Averaging $38/sale with 60% revshare in the first 4 months alone! Convert your TEEN traffic today @ better than 1:500 guaranteed. ICQ me: 18287590!

11-06-2005, 02:47 AM	#224
jayeff Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 2,944	On the face of it, this kind of thread seems like an extraordinary indictment of our industry. What else could such weak member-area security be except a consequence of poor management? But there are two things to consider... The first is that the owners of a retail store - for example - can accurately measure their losses due to various types of theft, and they can also calculate the cost of and savings resulting from measures intended to reduce theft. Thus they can apply such measures as are cost-effective and budget the practically unavoidable thefts as an expense. We know password trading sites exist. We know their activities cost paysites bandwidth and we strongly suspect they cost them sales. But we do not have any way to quantify these losses and therefore no way to know what security measures might be cost-effective. So what to do? Good management isn't acting simply for the sake of being seen to be doing something, but acting in a way which demonstrably improves profitability. And then there is the nature of our industry at this moment in time. It isn't made up of corporations with legal responsibilities and answerable to shareholders. Because this is still a young industry, many people in it have made, are making, far more money than just a few years ago they ever imagined: despite the password traders and all the other leaks. Yes, by absolute standards their management may be poor, but so what? They could learn and apply some new skills or hire those skills and add some points to their bottom lines as a result. But if that meant diverting part of their time and energies away from the things they enjoy doing and believe make them the big money, I seriously doubt many would be interested. So what does someone like Ciao bella really have to gloat over? By his own admission he is hacking systems with minimal security, so what he is doing isn't much of a technical achievement. And sooner or later he risks falling foul of the law when he likely could make as much or more money legitimately. The bottom line is that he is no better than any other kind of small-time thief and while he might be an irritant, the people from whom he is stealing will still be making serious money, long after he has been shut down.

11-06-2005, 03:13 AM	#225
nofx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Virgin Mary's womb Posts: 16,826	Ciao bella you're the reason the internet should exist __________________ Often times I wonder why There's love and hate, theres live or die. When sickness comes I must decide: When feelings go, theres suicide.

11-06-2005, 04:09 AM	#226
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11-06-2005, 04:19 PM	#229
justsexxx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 13,723	Again, I have no doubt you can get in. HOWEVER, how long does the average password KEEP working.... __________________ Questions? ICQ: 125184542

11-06-2005, 04:32 PM	#230
Young Bland for life Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 10,468	There are hundreds of password forums and community's on the web. Pay this fucker off and you'll be faced with thousands of copy cats and wannabes. Exactly why you're not supposed to negotiate with these low-lifes. He's just a small piece of the pie. __________________ ★★★

11-06-2005, 04:33 PM	#231
KingK7 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 6,372	I am willing to bet this clown is not from Italy, his english is way too advanced for that, even though he tries to hide it with this "Signore" bullshit.

11-07-2005, 07:23 AM	#232
Savaged00d Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 13	Hello. First let me introduce myself. I'm yet another, how you like to call them "hacker". Only difference is, that ciaobella is a poor script kiddie bruteforcer that learned to operate senty/AD/caecus and the likes, and now he thinks he owns the world. I've followed the conversation thus far from outside as many of us do, since we always keep a close eye on all webmaster boards, and didn't interfere untill i saw some of you started "believeing" this clown. It's true most of you dont know the first thing about security, so what he wrote might seem "Advanced" to you, but that's all kiddie stuff. Half of that was even described in a bruteforce tutorial that comes with one cracking tool. "Ciao bella" is a moron and a newbie. I like how he posts screenshots of his board wiht "200" pages of replies or what not. He probably has 5 replies per page and the thread in a continuous one. With that setup, i know much larger forums that would rack that up to 1000's. Another thing i like is how he speaks for "all" crackers. Another bullshit. There's shitload of more boards and crackers. Paying to him for "stoping to bruteforce your site" (HA HA) wouldn't make up for a single thing in your breached logins. Most of the stuff he wrote was bullshit. "logs of billing companies???" - Like he has access to any of the billing company. He'd be advertising to them, not to you if he had. "Ip from mexico bla bla, bullshit bullshit" - Just a proxy found on any cracker board And last thing. Since he must know most of us actually read this stuff, and we obliterate from internet anyone that contacts with webmasters (as that's the first and most important rule of this trade) he's hiding his board name. We have our world, you have yours. We do this stuff cause of the challenge, not cause of the financial gain (not talking about puny brutefocing). And when we find out the url of his board, you can be sure he'll see what DDoS actually feels like, and how it feels to have your bandwidth sucked right infront of you in a matter of minutes. We'll handle our stray sheep. Bye

11-07-2005, 07:33 AM	#234
cranki Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Café del Mar Posts: 5,162	can sb sum this shit up, I don't want to work through all those worthless postings...

11-07-2005, 07:40 AM	#235
flashfreak Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: cloud number 9 Posts: 4,396	ciao bella : the end is near. there was a fucktard like you from Israel last year, he used to threat webmasters to put down their servers. even gfy was down few hours. he won some $$$, right now he's in jail. I wish you the same __________________ SEO Mogul \| ICQ: 163671223

11-07-2005, 11:06 AM	#240
adultchica Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: usa Posts: 5,141	Ciao Bella is really an 18 yr old college nerd boy sitting in his dorm room hacking shit to feel better __________________

11-07-2005, 11:12 AM	#241
bashbug Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 929	heh funny shit. hes hoping sponsors will pay him, to secure shit. htaccess cant be secured. unless you make longer harder to break username passes. easy passwords are crackable. if everyone switched to image verify would solve a lot of problems.

11-07-2005, 11:21 AM	#242
MattO The O is for Oohhh Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: AUSTIN TEJAS Posts: 10,861	Right now I'm sitting in the office of a billing company, where I work a few days a week as part of the programming team for their system's back end. I must say, we've all been having a good laugh at this retarded fucking thread. Program owners have more to worry about with chargebacks than with script kiddies who don't have credit cards of their own trying to gain access to their sites.