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Old 10-23-2005, 07:11 PM   #351
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So you are the one basicly causeing the problem for all the afilliates. This all could be simply fix sell the girl here shit and move on. You threw in the towel and now you wanna bitch about her this and that.

Smooth move guy you say you don' care about makin $ but you fuckinin us but hey thats ok. Shit gets forgiven but not forgotin.....
tell me how many signups you've sent her - i'll write you a check personally - based on projections from your last couple of months.

for the last time - no move by me was EVER going to be taken that would damage a current affiliate. this was Ashley's decision 100% on her own to just run off and send that mass email out to her affiliates.

in fact in my email to her again I told her I thought she was a smart girl and to think about things and come up with a solution - that she would determine how things played out from here. in that email she warned about copyright issues - the only thing she was warned about that would affect affiliates were NEW galleries put up with the content in question.

end of story. again.
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Old 10-23-2005, 07:12 PM   #353
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ok. I cant read anymore of this. But I have to say this to those of you who are suspect of Mutt's motives.
Mutt has done a ton of everything for me as well- for nothing! Including (from a very long list) designing an entire site for me as well. I was staggered by the amount of work and patience he offered as I watched this Ashley saga unfold.

It amazes me still that I had to come to the porn industry to find people with this kind of character.
This was a staggeringly bad business move on Ashley?s part.

Mutt, talk to you later. You are a DUDE! Thanks for
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its character to help someone who wants to do nothing and your doing all the work? Im confused lol
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Old 10-23-2005, 07:19 PM   #355
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I'am shooting, Ashley...

For the next couple weeks and that, she has been advised not to post in this thread anymore and to her affiliates who have any questions or concerns know how to contact her.

I already had Ashley on the books to shoot, before all of this. I'am local to her.

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Old 10-23-2005, 07:20 PM   #356
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I do not know what her website bills are, but mine are about 10k a month...every month.
that does not include all the federal tax stuff I have to pay every quarter.
Venus, the girl was making great money, plain and simple. *If* she would have played her cards right, her income would have risen every single month for many months/years to come. Not too shabby for a 22 y/o girl.
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Old 10-23-2005, 07:21 PM   #357
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Thats 4 actually. I just stay outta the spotlight and I doubt anyone knows that I am co-owner with Aron. But she is def. up to here same old tricks, if she is doing the same shit she did with us then she is obviously not planning on changing her ways anytime soon. How many chances does she expect to get, burn enough bridges and it soon becomes hard to build new ones. I wonder how many peoples ICQ's she is burning up trying to find new friends and suckers. Heads up guys, when she gets what she wants you will be dropped like a bad habit.

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I have also stayed away from the boards, they eat up to much time.
If people send me threads, I check them out. Well, I had about 20 people send me this thread, and when I seen it, I had to reply.
My business partner john, said exactly how we feel, and the last line should be read over and over again...
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Old 10-23-2005, 07:22 PM   #358
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I'am shooting, Ashley...

For the next couple weeks and that, she has been advised not to post in this thread anymore and to her affiliates who have any questions or concerns know how to contact her.

I already had Ashley on the books to shoot, before all of this. I'am local to her.

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advised her to ignore the affiliates she is fucking over? smart play!
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Old 10-23-2005, 07:28 PM   #359
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I'am shooting, Ashley...

For the next couple weeks and that, she has been advised not to post in this thread anymore and to her affiliates who have any questions or concerns know how to contact her.

I already had Ashley on the books to shoot, before all of this. I'am local to her.

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Why would you advise her not to post here? Maybe if she posted here she could address concerns of affiliates?

I for one am 100% confused with this whole saga!

Nothing has been explained properly - it almost seems as if she has misunderstood Mutt and that the existing hosted gals will be fine along with the existing ccbill links - but who fucking knows????

Ashley should post in this thread/GFY so we(affiliates) know what the hell is going on! Telling her not to post here is just plain dumb.
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Old 10-23-2005, 07:29 PM   #360
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advised her to ignore the affiliates she is fucking over? smart play!
She's not ignoring affiliates. She told them how to get in touch with her. I don't think its unreasonable to respect her/and others' decision for her not to post in thread. "Dumb blonde", "just another girl", "c*nt", "bitch"....etc etc period. I don't blame her.
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Old 10-23-2005, 07:35 PM   #361
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I'am shooting, Ashley...

For the next couple weeks and that, she has been advised not to post in this thread anymore and to her affiliates who have any questions or concerns know how to contact her.

I already had Ashley on the books to shoot, before all of this. I'am local to her.

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"She has been advised not to post in this thread anymore".

Lovely way to handle the situation. So, she is not posting in this thread anymore in hopes that this "drama" will burn itself out. Then hopefully in a month or two, everyone will forget about this, right? Good luck.
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Old 10-23-2005, 07:37 PM   #362
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She's not ignoring affiliates. She told them how to get in touch with her. I don't think its unreasonable to respect her/and others' decision for her not to post in thread. "Dumb blonde", "just another girl", "c*nt", "bitch"....etc etc period. I don't blame her.
i'm just being selfish... because if the thread keeps going on.. it'll give me more ideas for drawings jk
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Old 10-23-2005, 07:37 PM   #363
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she had made NET $110,000.
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A 110K in 6 months time is not much at all, after bills she prolly has half that left

NET = REVENUE - EXPENSES

This concludes today?s rudimentary accounting lesson.


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advised her to ignore the affiliates she is fucking over? smart play!

From what I know, she's not planning on ignoring any affilates..contact her and see.

Is her ICQ lighting up, like the night before christmas ...yes!

She's getting so many offers right now, she isn't going anywhere.

Thats all I know...she's paying me and I'am going to shoot her.

Mutt, sorry it didn't work out with you and Ashley.

I don't have any plans on sleeping with Ashley, just seeing her sexy self all naked!
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ok. I cant read anymore of this. But I have to say this to those of you who are suspect of Mutt's motives.
Mutt has done a ton of everything for me as well- for nothing! Including (from a very long list) designing an entire site for me as well. I was staggered by the amount of work and patience he offered as I watched this Ashley saga unfold.

It amazes me still that I had to come to the porn industry to find people with this kind of character.
This was a staggeringly bad business move on Ashley?s part.

Mutt, talk to you later. You are a DUDE! Thanks for
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This is John - and yes he's been helped alot too by me during the dame time period I helped Ashley. And now lets begin to post that I help John because I am secretly infatuated with him

There would never have been an AshleyBrookes.com without John Emslie - it was February of this year and Ashley had managed to shoot 21 photosets in over 5 months - I'd tried to help problem solve but she had other things to do - unemployed college dropouts have a demanding life down there in Kansas. So John got the job of flying down there for 8 days to shoot Ashley - and he did a great job. Her members love the content John shot on her.
Ashley at the time was still fun and sweet - they both had a good time.

Flash forward 3 months - Ashley needs content again - these sites gobble up content fast and there'd been a problem getting John's video camera down to him in Kansas when he was there. Her members were bitching about videos. By this time Ashley's site had launched and she got off to an amazing start - 40 plus signups a day - always in the mid 30's to low 40's - money is flowing in. And Ashley changes - big time, the money and her new found 'stardom' definitely went to her head. John at the time was having serious financial stress - and a new home he had purchased, a fixer upper, needed a ton of work just to be inhabitable. So John busted his ass for weeks trying to get things finished enough for Princess Ashley's arrival. Again he was going to donate a week of his time and talent - all for her benefit. I was nervous because both John and I had dealt with her new personality in recent weeks.

My worst fears were realized - she showed up in Winnipeg and behaved like a rude arrogant twit. The first time I contact John to see if Ashley made it up there ok all he says is 'Dan - this isn't the same girl'. I know she isn't. I'm still defending her at this point - saying its the money and celebrityhood and she'll get over it - John says 'No - I'm seeing the REAL girl - what I saw in Kansas was the one who was on her best behaviour'. And I knew he was right. She had a ton of work to get through that week, all kinds of content needed to be shot - and a good amount of it for affiliates - promo stuff. She gave John the message in no uncertain terms that she would be shot when SHE felt like it, and would do as she pleased. That week ended abruptly with a fight and tears. It should have been the end but I relented and gave her one more shot to prove she was more than what she had revealed so far. Nothing. The cockiness was something I had never dealt with before with her.
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She's getting so many offers right now, she isn't going anywhere.
funny... my solo girl used that same tactic to try and get me to pay her more....

it would be interested to see if there are any "real offers" and who the people offering them were
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i'm just being selfish... because if the thread keeps going on.. it'll give me more ideas for drawings jk
do one of ....shit fucking grand slam...fucking great. fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

i was going to suggest a drawing but konerko just fucking hit a grand slam
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Oh if John is still reading... I love your work! You are a great photographer man. Keep it up.

And yes, I secretly want to polish his knob as well.
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Old 10-23-2005, 07:47 PM   #371
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Just like models are a dime a dozen on the Net, so are the number of male webmasters willing to "help" them for free. She'll be back up in no time.

Ashley has "that look" that sells. "That Look" never ever has a tough time finding whatever it needs to get whatever it wants.

A gorgeous young girl has complete power over men.
So true LOL

the world revolves around pussy and she will find another sucker and the same suckers will promote her
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how is this bullshit? He even stated he threw the towel in and asked her to remove this images. No images no content plain in simple. He is on here crying to us what a little spoiled bitchy brat she is but in all sense he is the one fuckin the afillates.

If she is geting nats installed it shows the program aint going no were. So why not sell the chick the frigin content and be done with it. . This is pure bull shit from a afilliates point of view. If he never wanted anything or there is no contract what the fuck is the problem them?

Mutt i never heard nothin but good things about you. This is kinda puzzleing from are end. I know there is more to this story then being posted. I really hope you two can work something out for the sake of the afillates.
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Old 10-23-2005, 07:51 PM   #373
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She's getting so many offers right now, she isn't going anywhere.
i hope those people making those offers understand what a great disservice they are going to do for that girl.

there are people making me similar offers.

there are things i haven't posted in this thread yet - about Ashley's character - Aron and his partner John know, my photog John knows.

she can do whatever she wants - she knows that at least some people finally have her pegged.
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its not to shabby for someone doing it all for you either.. unless there was some underlying issues shy is is not comfortable working with him.

it does not really matter to me, I am sure that in the next 30 seconds there will be 10 more teen sites on the net anyways.

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This is John - and yes he's been helped alot too by me during the dame time period I helped Ashley. And now lets begin to post that I help John because I am secretly infatuated with him

There would never have been an AshleyBrookes.com without John Emslie - it was February of this year and Ashley had managed to shoot 21 photosets in over 5 months - I'd tried to help problem solve but she had other things to do - unemployed college dropouts have a demanding life down there in Kansas. So John got the job of flying down there for 8 days to shoot Ashley - and he did a great job. Her members love the content John shot on her.
Ashley at the time was still fun and sweet - they both had a good time.

Flash forward 3 months - Ashley needs content again - these sites gobble up content fast and there'd been a problem getting John's video camera down to him in Kansas when he was there. Her members were bitching about videos. By this time Ashley's site had launched and she got off to an amazing start - 40 plus signups a day - always in the mid 30's to low 40's - money is flowing in. And Ashley changes - big time, the money and her new found 'stardom' definitely went to her head. John at the time was having serious financial stress - and a new home he had purchased, a fixer upper, needed a ton of work just to be inhabitable. So John busted his ass for weeks trying to get things finished enough for Princess Ashley's arrival. Again he was going to donate a week of his time and talent - all for her benefit. I was nervous because both John and I had dealt with her new personality in recent weeks.

My worst fears were realized - she showed up in Winnipeg and behaved like a rude arrogant twit. The first time I contact John to see if Ashley made it up there ok all he says is 'Dan - this isn't the same girl'. I know she isn't. I'm still defending her at this point - saying its the money and celebrityhood and she'll get over it - John says 'No - I'm seeing the REAL girl - what I saw in Kansas was the one who was on her best behaviour'. And I knew he was right. She had a ton of work to get through that week, all kinds of content needed to be shot - and a good amount of it for affiliates - promo stuff. She gave John the message in no uncertain terms that she would be shot when SHE felt like it, and would do as she pleased. That week ended abruptly with a fight and tears. It should have been the end but I relented and gave her one more shot to prove she was more than what she had revealed so far. Nothing. The cockiness was something I had never dealt with before with her.
This doesn't make sense at all people having money stress giving away their time freely when the money is flowing in, people giving people who don't want to work and have bad latitudes tons of chances when they haven't ever even met this person and they are not making money off this. There is a different between being a good soul and being a taken advantage of and for some reason letting this disrespect and behavior continue for a extended period of time. Maybe I'm slow or something. lol
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i hope those people making those offers understand what a great disservice they are going to do for that girl.

there are people making me similar offers.

there are things i haven't posted in this thread yet - about Ashley's character - Aron and his partner John know, my photog John knows.

she can do whatever she wants - she knows that at least some people finally have her pegged.

See this is what i dont get man You are bashing her over and over. In the past you been building her up to us for this ? grrhhhh you know what thisaint none of my business. I hope yoou guys/ girls get this worked out and i wish you all the best of luck.
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how is this bullshit? He even stated he threw the towel in and asked her to remove this images. No images no content plain in simple. He is on here crying to us what a little spoiled bitchy brat she is but in all sense he is the one fuckin the afillates.

If she is geting nats installed it shows the program aint going no were. So why not sell the chick the frigin content and be done with it. . This is pure bull shit from a afilliates point of view. If he never wanted anything or there is no contract what the fuck is the problem them?

Mutt i never heard nothin but good things about you. This is kinda puzzleing from are end. I know there is more to this story then being posted. I really hope you two can work something out for the sake of the afillates.
He said "it was never about the money" what I think is that he hope to get some play now he knows that he can't get any. Selling her the content would just fill himself with more regret helping a brat get rich, he would rather keep the content to spite. Hell id do the same thing. This just show you can't buy friendship, in this case, helping people for free. Only help someone that deserve it.
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For the next couple weeks and that, she has been advised not to post in this thread anymore and to her affiliates who have any questions or concerns know how to contact her.

I already had Ashley on the books to shoot, before all of this. I'am local to her.

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how is this bullshit? He even stated he threw the towel in and asked her to remove this images. No images no content plain in simple. He is on here crying to us what a little spoiled bitchy brat she is but in all sense he is the one fuckin the afillates.

If she is geting nats installed it shows the program aint going no were. So why not sell the chick the frigin content and be done with it. . This is pure bull shit from a afilliates point of view. If he never wanted anything or there is no contract what the fuck is the problem them?

Mutt i never heard nothin but good things about you. This is kinda puzzleing from are end. I know there is more to this story then being posted. I really hope you two can work something out for the sake of the afillates.
dude she is getting new content shot - if she had been at home she could have shot the content already and replaced what isn't hers. but again Ashley doesn't think about her affiliates or anything else.

her original content was shot in 7 days - I am giving her 10 days from now - that's more than enough time to get her content shot and up.

no affiliates will be put out money or traffic on my account.
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BlingDaddy - I'll tell you the same thing I told other people who begged me to get a contract with Ashley. Number one - because of TNACash I never wanted to be seen to make a dime off AshleyBrookes, that's stealing a model - so what's left - a contract obligating a girl to do a certain amount of work like an employee on her own site? I told them if that's necessary then the whole thing is a failure right now - so I told them I will put my faith in Ashley that one day in the not too distant future she would fullfill her end of the bargain.

A year ago it was explained to Ashley that this was NOT a sugar daddy gift - I wasn't a sugar daddy and I expected nothing sugar daddies want - so she was going to be just like any guy I might help out - honor your commitment fully or ............
A "gentlemens agreement" then. I've had those go both ways...
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This concludes today?s rudimentary accounting lesson.


sonofsam - perhaps you could draw a picture to help the slow among us?


He was reffering to CCBILL net revenue after affiliate payouts and there SMALL fee ;)
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See this is what i dont get man You are bashing her over and over. In the past you been building her up to us for this ? grrhhhh you know what thisaint none of my business. I hope yoou guys/ girls get this worked out and i wish you all the best of luck.
i built her up at one time because I felt she was worth building up - later on when I was on GFY promoting Ashley as her own webmaster and running her own show I did it with a purpose - she loves to see herself written and talked about that way - I thought if she could at least see it there was a shot it could motivate her to be it.

Ashley hasn't done NOTHING - there was a time when she was doing practically nothing - in mid June I spent a week creating step by step tutorials so detailed with screencaps a child could follow along and finally teaching her at least something - basic tasks of updating her site.
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8 pages and she hasn't come back to explain anything ...
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This was probably what Ashley was expecting

Love the art... I don't change links until I have somewhere else to send them....
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funny... my solo girl used that same tactic to try and get me to pay her more....

it would be interested to see if there are any "real offers" and who the people offering them were
Since she wasn't paying him, I don't see how this relates.
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Hopefully your getting paid or getting something out of it..
I have already been paid 1/2 up front, as I said...I already had her on the books.

Mutt knew, I was going to shoot her and was happy.

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Since she wasn't paying him, I don't see how this relates.
i'm just sayin.... possible shes lying like my solo girl was
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Ok guys, it's come down to the wire and Mutt still will not work with me on this. I have decided that I'm going to keep the current site up until I can have it totally replaced. This simply effects too many people. Mutt - sue me if you want! I should be able to have the switch over completed in a week. If he sues me - oh well. I have asked Mike69 to work with the NATS people on providing a suitable change over from CCbill to NATS that will not interrupt your traffic. So the most that should happen is you guys will have two stats areas to check.
Again, sorry for all the drama. This seems to be the best option to affect the least amount of people.
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Ok guys, it's come down to the wire and Mutt still will not work with me on this. I have decided that I'm going to keep the current site up until I can have it totally replaced. This simply effects too many people. Mutt - sue me if you want! I should be able to have the switch over completed in a week. If he sues me - oh well. I have asked Mike69 to work with the NATS people on providing a suitable change over from CCbill to NATS that will not interrupt your traffic. So the most that should happen is you guys will have two stats areas to check.
Again, sorry for all the drama. This seems to be the best option to affect the least amount of people.
Sure hope this all get's worked out. Seems like quite the shame. Now everyone knows why I'm an affiliate ONLY! Best of luck to both Ashley and Mutt for a mutually agreeable resolution.
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Ok guys, it's come down to the wire and Mutt still will not work with me on this. I have decided that I'm going to keep the current site up until I can have it totally replaced. This simply effects too many people. Mutt - sue me if you want! I should be able to have the switch over completed in a week. If he sues me - oh well. I have asked Mike69 to work with the NATS people on providing a suitable change over from CCbill to NATS that will not interrupt your traffic. So the most that should happen is you guys will have two stats areas to check.
Again, sorry for all the drama. This seems to be the best option to affect the least amount of people.
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Ok guys, it's come down to the wire and Mutt still will not work with me on this. I have decided that I'm going to keep the current site up until I can have it totally replaced. This simply effects too many people. Mutt - sue me if you want! I should be able to have the switch over completed in a week. If he sues me - oh well. I have asked Mike69 to work with the NATS people on providing a suitable change over from CCbill to NATS that will not interrupt your traffic. So the most that should happen is you guys will have two stats areas to check.
Again, sorry for all the drama. This seems to be the best option to affect the least amount of people.
excuse me? Ashley when are you going to stop the fabricating. since I accused you of ............. i'll leave that out for now - webmasters don't need to know about - you haven't said a word to me let alone asking to work anything out and YOU know it.

soap operas soap operas soap operas soap operas...........

you have been warned - YOU take care of YOUR affiliates - don't expose them to any legal risk that you have every ability to take care of. John shot about 50 sets of you and some video in 7 days - Lexxi can do the same.

go for it.
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Guys, I am sorry this took so long but I had a heavy decision to make. I have not been 'gone,' I have been talking to others about options and how to effect the least amount of people.
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Is her ICQ lighting up, like the night before christmas ...yes!

She's getting so many offers right now, she isn't going anywhere.

Thats all I know...she's paying me and I'am going to shoot her.

Mutt, sorry it didn't work out with you and Ashley.

I don't have any plans on sleeping with Ashley, just seeing her sexy self all naked!
I love GFY.

As predicted in my earlier post, she'll be flooded with offers from new "helpers".

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