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Old 10-25-2005, 02:01 PM   #1
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Serious Topic: Is this the beginning of the end of the World?

Never in my lifetime have I seen so many Natural Disastors with so many deaths. 200,000 in tsunami, 70,000 in earthquake, so many hurricanes and floods and such. The threat of a pandemic flu outbreak.

Then there isTerrorism and the threat of Nuclear war. Could all this be ignored? What is happening?

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Old 10-25-2005, 02:04 PM   #2
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Don't know about the end of the world or human kind, but I think humanity is due for a little cleansing to balance out nature. If it doesn't happen naturally, I could see it happening through human intervention (war).

*shrug*
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Old 10-25-2005, 02:07 PM   #3
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I watch ALOT of the Discovery channel (maybe too much) and it looks like as the years progress it will just keep getting worse.
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Old 10-25-2005, 02:09 PM   #4
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"the threat of Nuclear war." ? WTF? who still belive that?

Remember who is the only country that have used the Nukes - not Iran, China, Japan or Israel.. but the US
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Don't know about the end of the world or human kind, but I think humanity is due for a little cleansing to balance out nature. If it doesn't happen naturally, I could see it happening through human intervention (war).

*shrug*
My thoughts exactly.
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Old 10-25-2005, 02:09 PM   #6
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Some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will.
I sure could use a vacation from this,
Bull, shit, three, ring, cir, cus, side, show of
Freaks.

Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call LA,
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away.
Any fucking time. Any fucking day.
Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay.

Fret for your figure and
Fret for your latte and
Fret for your hairpiece and
Fret for your lawsuit and
Fret for your prozac and
Fret for your pilot and
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It's a,
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Freaks.

Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call LA,
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away.
Any fucking time. Any fucking day.
Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay.

Some say a comet will fall from the sky.
Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves.
Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still.
Followed by millions of dumbfounded dipshits.

Some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will cuz
I sure could use a vacation from this

Silly shit, stupid shit...

One great big festering neon distraction,
I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied.

Learn to swim.

Mom's gonna fix it all soon.
Mom's comin' round to put it back the way it ought to be.

Learn to swim.

Fuck L Ron Hubbard and,
Fuck all his clones.
Fuck all those gun-toting,
Hip gangster wannabes.

Learn to swim.

Fuck retro anything.
Fuck your tattoos.
Fuck all you junkies and
Fuck your short memory.

Learn to swim.

Fuck smiley glad-hands,
With hidden agendas.
Fuck these dysfunctional,
Insecure actresses.

Learn to swim.

Cuz I'm praying for rain,
And I'm praying for tidal waves,
I wanna see the ground give way.
I wanna watch it all go down.
Mom please flush it all away.
I wanna watch it go right in and down.
I wanna watch it go right in.
Watch you flush it all away.

Time to bring it down again.
Don't just call me pessimist.
Try and read between the lines.

I can't imagine why you wouldn't,
Welcome any change, my friend.

I wanna see it all come down.
suck it down.
flush it down.
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Old 10-25-2005, 02:11 PM   #8
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My thoughts exactly.
I mean, really. We're a pretty retarded species. The majority of us can't even get along because of "religious" differences, let alone skin color, for instance.

That's just fucking spectacular.

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Old 10-25-2005, 02:11 PM   #9
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Or is this the end of the start of the world?
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Old 10-25-2005, 02:13 PM   #10
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Some say it is, but if you look in the past, there are many times in history where there is a period for a lot of natural disasters.

Who knows whats goin to happen, the best advise- just live everyday to the fullest and cherish the ones you love. You know never know what is going to come our way.
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Old 10-25-2005, 02:13 PM   #11
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What is happening? Business as usual. The razing of Carthage, the fall of Syracuse, the Black Death, the Spanish Flu, both world wars... what we are in right now is a period of relative calm. The only reason it may seem otherwise is that in the past few decades, we have had a period of almost unprecedented wealth, peace and safety.
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Old 10-25-2005, 02:14 PM   #12
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Some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will.
I sure could use a vacation from this,
Bull, shit, three, ring, cir, cus, side, show of
Freaks.

Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call LA,
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away.
Any fucking time. Any fucking day.
Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay.

Fret for your figure and
Fret for your latte and
Fret for your hairpiece and
Fret for your lawsuit and
Fret for your prozac and
Fret for your pilot and
Fret for your contract and
Fret for your car.

It's a,
Bullshit three ring circus sideshow of,
Freaks.

Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call LA,
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away.
Any fucking time. Any fucking day.
Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay.

Some say a comet will fall from the sky.
Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves.
Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still.
Followed by millions of dumbfounded dipshits.

Some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will cuz
I sure could use a vacation from this

Silly shit, stupid shit...

One great big festering neon distraction,
I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied.

Learn to swim.

Mom's gonna fix it all soon.
Mom's comin' round to put it back the way it ought to be.

Learn to swim.

Fuck L Ron Hubbard and,
Fuck all his clones.
Fuck all those gun-toting,
Hip gangster wannabes.

Learn to swim.

Fuck retro anything.
Fuck your tattoos.
Fuck all you junkies and
Fuck your short memory.

Learn to swim.

Fuck smiley glad-hands,
With hidden agendas.
Fuck these dysfunctional,
Insecure actresses.

Learn to swim.

Cuz I'm praying for rain,
And I'm praying for tidal waves,
I wanna see the ground give way.
I wanna watch it all go down.
Mom please flush it all away.
I wanna watch it go right in and down.
I wanna watch it go right in.
Watch you flush it all away.

Time to bring it down again.
Don't just call me pessimist.
Try and read between the lines.

I can't imagine why you wouldn't,
Welcome any change, my friend.

I wanna see it all come down.
suck it down.
flush it down.


mmmm tool > *
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Old 10-25-2005, 02:15 PM   #13
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Old 10-25-2005, 02:21 PM   #14
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It only seems like more shit is happening because humans are occupying a larger percentage of the World, plus with availability of instant news reports from anywhere brings the disasters home to your living room on a scale never before possible.
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humanity's view of the present is myopic. We fundamentally lack context when evaluating the present relative to the past due to our incredibly short life-spans. Here's a newsflash: we're all gonna die sooner rather than later.
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Old 10-25-2005, 02:26 PM   #16
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i can't fucking stand people who think the recent natural disasters = the END of things as we KNOW IT!!!!

come the fuck off it... lemme tell you, there is evidence all over the earth that there have been MUCH major natural catastrophes than the measily shit we've experienced lately... supervolcanos, super earth quakes, mega tsunamis, and the list goes on n' on..

GLOBAL WARMING is not to blame for any of this.
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Your lifetime? Do you know how long the earth was around before you graced us?

Hurricanes have down periods. We just left one. This is normal. Earthquakes happen everyday, always have, always will. Tsunamis are not new, just ask residents in the Northwest United States, Japan and Hawaii.
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GLOBAL WARMING is not to blame for any of this.
Do you have an obsession with "Global Warming" discussions? Nobody even mentionned it in this thread.
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Never in my lifetime have I seen so many Natural Disastors with so many deaths. 200,000 in tsunami, 70,000 in earthquake, so many hurricanes and floods and such. The threat of a pandemic flu outbreak.

Then there isTerrorism and the threat of Nuclear war. Could all this be ignored? What is happening?

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I was reading Newsweek last night before falling asleep and seriously - was thinking the same thing when i put it down.

Honestly, I'd rather be ignorant of all this shit and NOT know about it
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i can't fucking stand people who think the recent natural disasters = the END of things as we KNOW IT!!!!

come the fuck off it... lemme tell you, there is evidence all over the earth that there have been MUCH major natural catastrophes than the measily shit we've experienced lately... supervolcanos, super earth quakes, mega tsunamis, and the list goes on n' on..

GLOBAL WARMING is not to blame for any of this.
But a category 3 Hurricane just hit Florida and some islands during Hurricane season? We also had a tremor on Saturday night in Los Angeles, part of the Pacific Rim.

Seems strange to me.
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Do you have an obsession with "Global Warming" discussions? Nobody even mentionned it in this thread.
People often blame global warming for things not even near proven to be caused from it.

People often need a "reason" for why disasters happen, when all they have to do is look back in history to find out they have always happened.
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People often blame global warming for things not even near proven to be caused from it.

People often need a "reason" for why disasters happen, when all they have to do is look back in history to find out they have always happened.
well i'm not blaming global warming on anything. i completely agree with you...

and nocarrier, i just said that because there was a thread recently and a lot of stupid people think global warming is to blame for all of the hurricane activity lately
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Don't know about the end of the world or human kind, but I think humanity is due for a little cleansing to balance out nature. If it doesn't happen naturally, I could see it happening through human intervention (war).

*shrug*
I have to agree with you here. I think something is going to happen. Brod flue, natural disaster, quakes, floods... the herd is starting to be thinned out.
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Actually, it is the end of the beginning of the World.

Starting this minute is the age of reason, compassion and technology.

Let's make the future better than the past.
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Never in my lifetime have I seen so many Natural Disastors with so many deaths. 200,000 in tsunami, 70,000 in earthquake, so many hurricanes and floods and such. The threat of a pandemic flu outbreak.

Then there isTerrorism and the threat of Nuclear war. Could all this be ignored? What is happening?

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Think of the earth as a big fluffy Golden Retreiver. When it gets too many fleas it gives a good shake and gets rid of some. Nothing new...natural disasters have been roughly on par for the billions of years the Earth has been here. Ask the Dinosaurs or the people of Pompei.

I think you are referring to recorded history rather than history in general. The Earth has been here for Billions of years and will probably be here for a Billion more. People on the other hand........
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the only reason you hear so much about natural disasters today is the way the media works. today more people are watching tv and using the internet for 6-8 hours a day more then ever. thus is leading to people hearing about these horrific events more often then ever before. earthquakes, hurricanes, floods, etc... all normal its just nature. the reason you hear such phrases like "biggest hurricane in recorded history" is because recorded history is only about 50-100 years old.

but then again the mayans said we were going to die in 2012.. so if you believe it bust out the tin foil hats. personally im not worried about it.
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also you say 200,000 in a tsunami, 70,000 in an earthquake. you do realize there are upwards of 6,000,000,000 people on this planet. so 270,000 people is just a drop in the bucket when looking at the big picture. now i know why so many people are having heart attacks these days. you're all worried about fucking dying by some natural disaster. what you don't know is your more likely to get killed by the cigs your smoking or the car your driving in. that being said put down the tin foil and quit worrying so much.
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Your pack of cigs, microwave oven, bad auto brakes, bottle of Rum and unwashed hands are much more dangerous to you than all the natural disasters combined.
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The intensity and number of natural disasters run in cycles.

Human population growth is relentless. Human caused deforestation of the planet is relentless.

Each peak in natural disasters finds a world with more people, and less trees and other vegetation.

We must be skeptical of forecasts for the future based on past experience when there were far fewer people, and far more vegetation.

The Mayan calendar ends in 2012. I think they knew something.
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It's pretty scary all right..I just wish people would stop all the stupidity instead of adding more problems like waging a useless war..
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Old 10-25-2005, 06:47 PM   #42
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2019. is near....
Asteroid NY(I don't know the exact code), is coming and will hit Earth in 2019. ;)

Welcome to 3 years ago.


Asteroid 2002 NT7: Potential Earth Impact In 2019 -----> Ruled Out <-----


http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news133.html

With the processing of a few more observations of asteroid 2002 NT7 through July 28, we can now rule out any Earth impact possibilities for February 1, 2019. While we cannot yet completely rule out an impact possibility on February 1, 2060, it seems very likely that this possibility will be soon ruled out as well as additional positional observations are processed. Because the SENTRY system tracks a multitude of test particles in an effort to map the uncertainties of the asteroid's future positions, some of these test particles can take slightly different dynamical paths. Hence there are currently two entries for 2060 in our IMPACT RISK table. The entry with the higher risk (larger Palermo Technical Scale) would be the value that would then take precedence.
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Old 10-25-2005, 06:49 PM   #43
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Really I think like this. We all gotta go sometime. Im just here for the ride till then.
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Old 10-25-2005, 06:52 PM   #44
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Is this the beginning of the end of the World?
It is. Natural disasters will continue. The atmosphere will get even more polluted. Famine will continue to increase and disease will spread worldwide on a scale yet unknown.

It's called progress!
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Old 10-25-2005, 07:11 PM   #46
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It is. Natural disasters will continue. The atmosphere will get even more polluted. Famine will continue to increase and disease will spread worldwide on a scale yet unknown.

It's called progress!


This is a rather depressing book.
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Old 10-25-2005, 07:23 PM   #47
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Some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will.
I sure could use a vacation from this,
Bull, shit, three, ring, cir, cus, side, show of
Freaks.

Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call LA,
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away.
Any fucking time. Any fucking day.
Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay.

Fret for your figure and
Fret for your latte and
Fret for your hairpiece and
Fret for your lawsuit and
Fret for your prozac and
Fret for your pilot and
Fret for your contract and
Fret for your car.

It's a,
Bullshit three ring circus sideshow of,
Freaks.

Here in this hopeless fucking hole we call LA,
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away.
Any fucking time. Any fucking day.
Learn to swim, I'll see you down in Arizona bay.

Some say a comet will fall from the sky.
Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves.
Followed by faultlines that cannot sit still.
Followed by millions of dumbfounded dipshits.

Some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will cuz
I sure could use a vacation from this

Silly shit, stupid shit...

One great big festering neon distraction,
I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied.

Learn to swim.

Mom's gonna fix it all soon.
Mom's comin' round to put it back the way it ought to be.

Learn to swim.

Fuck L Ron Hubbard and,
Fuck all his clones.
Fuck all those gun-toting,
Hip gangster wannabes.

Learn to swim.

Fuck retro anything.
Fuck your tattoos.
Fuck all you junkies and
Fuck your short memory.

Learn to swim.

Fuck smiley glad-hands,
With hidden agendas.
Fuck these dysfunctional,
Insecure actresses.

Learn to swim.

Cuz I'm praying for rain,
And I'm praying for tidal waves,
I wanna see the ground give way.
I wanna watch it all go down.
Mom please flush it all away.
I wanna watch it go right in and down.
I wanna watch it go right in.
Watch you flush it all away.

Time to bring it down again.
Don't just call me pessimist.
Try and read between the lines.

I can't imagine why you wouldn't,
Welcome any change, my friend.

I wanna see it all come down.
suck it down.
flush it down.
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Old 10-25-2005, 07:50 PM   #48
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This is a rather depressing book.
Just had a look at some pages.. yep!! Depressing!!


Seriously.. who knows on the natural disaster stuff? But there are areas which are progressing towards being non-sustainable. Some of these are the continuing deforestation on the planet, population growth and global warming (exists whether we like or not) and numerous other elements

All of the above are interlinked and if they continue, will have a sustantial effect.

A few months back I ended up chatting with a group of researchers and one guy in particular. They specialized in advising, mainly govts, but others as well on the effects of eco change and have a massive budget for this stuff extending to satellite operations monitoring changes in the earth surface (like percentages of deforestation etc)

It was suggested the decline in standards of living would happen relatively quickly. This was illustrated using a cup. If the cup was 10% full and that represented the population on the planet and the population increased at, say 10% over 10 years. When that cup was 50% full, how long is going to take to overflow and be unsustainable for "normal life"?

It is a serious problem even now - govts already know, and it has been repeated several times, but the general attitude is "Well, I won't be in power when it happens, so why bother?". On the flip side,some govts are bothering, but it needs lots more involved to have an effect on the problem/potential problem
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Old 10-25-2005, 07:57 PM   #49
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shit happens thats all
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What is happening? Business as usual. The razing of Carthage, the fall of Syracuse, the Black Death, the Spanish Flu, both world wars... what we are in right now is a period of relative calm. The only reason it may seem otherwise is that in the past few decades, we have had a period of almost unprecedented wealth, peace and safety.
That is an interesting point. The question is then is this another "sky is falling" scenario?

I would imagine they thought the world was gonna end during world war 2 as well.

But the one factor I see here that is different now is the present of Nuclear weapons, which could wipe out humanity.
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