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Old 10-29-2005, 11:22 AM   #1
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Sex and Violence, Movies can have lots of Sex, Or lots of Violence, but not both, Why

Sex and Violence, Movies can have lots of Hard Sex, Or lots of Hard Violence, but not both, Why?

Fiction is fiction No?
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Old 10-29-2005, 11:23 AM   #2
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Old 10-29-2005, 11:24 AM   #3
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i think not!
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Sure they can, I guess it depends on the risk ya willing to take or how far your mind is able to go.

Will you face condemnation or cheer's of applause I guess is what it amounts to in the final piece.

For example if ya created a highly violent piece with lots of sex in it, and the story you tell, more than likely if you're story is of substance artistically and creatively it will be revered.

Thats the trick I think.

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Old 10-29-2005, 11:30 AM   #5
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Jack Nicholson had a great line; something like

"Show a breast, rated R. Chop off a head, rated PG".

I think that has something to do with it, the rating system, I mean.
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Old 10-29-2005, 11:32 AM   #6
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Jack Nicholson had a great line; something like

"Show a breast, rated R. Chop off a head, rated PG".

I think that has something to do with it, the rating system, I mean.
in europe it is the other way around

tits (seen on TV ads) G

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Old 10-29-2005, 11:37 AM   #7
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in europe it is the other way around

tits (seen on TV ads) G

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That's what depresses me about living in America (USA).

Oh well. The "USA" is still young and maybe some offspring of mine will live in a place harboring different perspectives.
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Old 10-29-2005, 12:44 PM   #8
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Old 10-29-2005, 12:46 PM   #9
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they have both?
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Old 10-29-2005, 01:29 PM   #10
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they're horrible movies, but they usually have a good mix of naked amazonian women taking advantage of poor confused earth men, and then everyone gets in a good old phaser gun fight just for old times' sake. They run almost every other night on Space channel here.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000339/

Check these titles:

# Stripteaser II (1997) (executive producer)
# Carnosaur 3: Primal Species (1996) (producer)
# Inhumanoid (1996) (TV) (executive producer)
# Black Rose of Harlem (1996) (executive producer)
# Alien Terminator (1996) (executive producer)
# Alien Avengers (1996) (TV) (executive producer)
# Bio-Tech Warrior (1996) (executive producer)
# Death Game (1996) (TV) (executive producer)
# House of the Damned (1996) (executive producer)
# Humanoids from the Deep (1996) (TV) (executive producer)
# Ladykiller (1996/I) (producer)
# Last Exit to Earth (1996) (TV)
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Old 10-29-2005, 01:32 PM   #11
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Old 10-30-2005, 01:41 AM   #12
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they're horrible movies, but they usually have a good mix of naked amazonian women taking advantage of poor confused earth men, and then everyone gets in a good old phaser gun fight just for old times' sake. They run almost every other night on Space channel here.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000339/

Check these titles:

# Stripteaser II (1997) (executive producer)
# Carnosaur 3: Primal Species (1996) (producer)
# Inhumanoid (1996) (TV) (executive producer)
# Black Rose of Harlem (1996) (executive producer)
# Alien Terminator (1996) (executive producer)
# Alien Avengers (1996) (TV) (executive producer)
# Bio-Tech Warrior (1996) (executive producer)
# Death Game (1996) (TV) (executive producer)
# House of the Damned (1996) (executive producer)
# Humanoids from the Deep (1996) (TV) (executive producer)
# Ladykiller (1996/I) (producer)
# Last Exit to Earth (1996) (TV)

good info there
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Old 10-30-2005, 02:45 AM   #13
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A movie can have both and in the most extreme grahic detail.

The problem is selling it to distributors. And here is the reason why.

Porn distributors are fairly conservative guys and lead by lawyers. so here they have a profit that might sell 10,000 copies if it's a great worldwide hit, more likely 5,000 would be the right number.

So they make $2 a copy, which means $,10,000 to $20,000 profit. would you rissk a 1/4 million lawyers bill for the sake of $20,000?

They also have more product than they need, so where is the need to take on a risky product?

Then comes selling it the shops and the same argument applies. The climate in the US is not good for porn at the moment.

Look back to the MaCarthy era and the movies Holleywood produced. Same rules of fear against return apply. Who will be the first one stick is hear above the parapit to get it blown off?
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Old 10-30-2005, 02:54 AM   #14
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Old 10-30-2005, 04:31 AM   #15
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'A History of Violence' had lots of both.
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Sex, violence, BDSM & snuff themes all in a mainstream movie (granted, it was shot in Canada):

Check out David Cronenberg's Videodrome

It broke some new ground back in `83. But it was also banned from some theatres and cities.

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A Clockwork Orange.

Being the adventures of a young man whose principal interests are rape,
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Sex, violence, BDSM & snuff themes all in a mainstream movie (granted, it was shot in Canada):

Check out David Cronenberg's Videodrome

It broke some new ground back in `83. But it was also banned from some theatres and cities.

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Well I just watched Caligula last night.

correction, I watched most of it. We paused it after the 20 minute sex scene on the galley with the blowjobs and lesbian action and decided to go practice our own depravity.
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Well I just watched Caligula last night.

correction, I watched most of it. We paused it after the 20 minute sex scene on the galley with the blowjobs and lesbian action and decided to go practice our own depravity.
another great film, did you get the truly uncut version?

pissing animals etc? is was out there
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A Clockwork Orange.

Being the adventures of a young man whose principal interests are rape,
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true, but that was way bent too
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