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AaronM · 11-12-2005, 11:42 PM

You've asked me to help you make money many times.

You've expressed great interest in working on projects together on several occasions.

Now you've betrayed my trust by discussing my income numbers with a model in order to discourage her from shooting with me since you didn't feel that $1,500 was enough for her to get paid based on your knowledge of my profits. I trusted you with this information and obviously should not have given it to you when you asked.

So now, I've lost a potentially great model because your broke and jealous ass had to play the hater game since you can't afford to pay girls to shoot with you.

We've gotten along fairly well for the last 4 years. That entire time you have been struggling because you refused to listen to my suggestions on how to capitalize on your talent....And you do have some kick ass talent....

BUT......You can kiss my ass if you think I will EVER do ANYTHING to help you or work with you after pulling that shit. You've just cost me thousands of dollars in lost revenue and for that, you can kiss our pending deal goodbye. That's right...No money for you. I was trying to be nice by cutting you in on that project but I only work with people that I can trust.

And then you have the nerve to wonder why people never follow through and do business with you.....

Fuck you and have a nice day.

And for you drama loving bitches....No, I will not be providing his name but rest assured that he does post here and he will be seeing this thread.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 11-12-2005, 11:43 PM

Interesting!

Curious who it is.

Jamie · 11-12-2005, 11:43 PM

ya what he said,

Bomber8888 · 11-12-2005, 11:44 PM

sig spot

LiveDose · 11-12-2005, 11:44 PM

That is fucked up.

Pete-KT · 11-12-2005, 11:45 PM

now thats a fucked up thing to do, you dont fuck with other peoples income, thats BS hopefully you can talk to herand get her back Aaron

Paraskass · 11-12-2005, 11:47 PM

your drama is pathetic.

Damian_Maxcash · 11-12-2005, 11:48 PM

Maybe he thought you where ripping off the model in question and was doing her a favour?

JD · 11-12-2005, 11:48 PM

oh shit! see ya in 2 weeks

btw see sig

AaronM · 11-12-2005, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NichePay_PeteKT

now thats a fucked up thing to do, you dont fuck with other peoples income, thats BS hopefully you can talk to herand get her back Aaron

Nope, he can have her at this point. I'm not exactly running on short on models right now anyway.

jrap · 11-12-2005, 11:50 PM

oh the drama

phonesex · 11-12-2005, 11:53 PM

now thats fucked up.

AaronM · 11-12-2005, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by damian2001

Maybe he thought you where ripping off the model in question and was doing her a favour?

He did not do her or himself any favors with this.

I am the top paying and top producing porn photographer in this city. My offer to her was at the top of the local pay scale for solo work. I've shot girls in Portland, Phoenix, Chico, Los Angles, and Las Vegas at the same rate and they thanked me for giving them $1,500 worth of solo shoots. Most content providers simply don't have the client base or make enough to offer what I offered her. And she wanted it until he stepped in.

Kevsh · 11-12-2005, 11:55 PM

Just curious: Why not just say all this to him instead of coming here w/o a name?
So many drama threads here, people calling each other out for things that 9 times out of 9.1 could've been settled privately.

Hey, not hating here, just seems odd to me that GFY has so many of these situations?

Pete-KT · 11-12-2005, 11:56 PM

ya right, if he did that I doubt he can afford her, some people need to mind there own business and not get into other people's. will we \See you in a few days in LA?

AaronM · 11-12-2005, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paraskass

your drama is pathetic.

And you're still nothing more than a sig whoring troll.

Thank, please drive though.

kmanrox · 11-12-2005, 11:57 PM

i'm sorry aaron... i'll never do it again

AaronM · 11-13-2005, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevsh

Just curious: Why not just say all this to him instead of coming here w/o a name?
So many drama threads here, people calling each other out for things that 9 times out of 9.1 could've been settled privately.

Hey, not hating here, just seems odd to me that GFY has so many of these situations?

Fair question and I honestly don;t have a good answer for it other than this:

GFY is my place to vent. The other reason is that he is not aware that I know what he has done and when he reads this thread, he's gonna wonder if I am talking about him and how I found out that he fucked me over. That will fuck with his head and keep him guessing.

Damian_Maxcash · 11-13-2005, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM

He did not do her or himself any favors with this.

I am the top paying and top producing porn photographer in this city. My offer to her was at the top of the local pay scale for solo work. I've shot girls in Portland, Phoenix, Chico, Los Angles, and Las Vegas at the same rate and they thanked me for giving them $1,500 worth of solo shoots. Most content providers simply don't have the client base or make enough to offer what I offered her. And she wanted it until he stepped in.

OK - good answer

Edit: I have to say that I get pissed buy the producers here that are taking the current "single girl" site craze and using it to line their own pockets. Its even worse when they come on here and brag about it.

Paraskass · 11-13-2005, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM

And you're still nothing more than a sig whoring troll.

Thank, please drive though.

and the point of your post was?

AaronM · 11-13-2005, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NichePay_PeteKT

ya right, if he did that I doubt he can afford her, some people need to mind there own business and not get into other people's. will we \See you in a few days in LA?

Yeah, I'm headed down tomorrow. Gotta meet with a business associate in Beverly Hills on the 14th so I'll be in town for a bit.

Paraskass · 11-13-2005, 12:02 AM

If you come here to call someone out, without naming them, it's drama, and it's for publicity, nothing more.

chowda · 11-13-2005, 12:03 AM

someone fucked me over today. when i found out who he is, oh boy.

AaronM · 11-13-2005, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paraskass

and the point of your post was?

WTF makes you think you are even in the same league to speak to me?

Fuck off, peasant.

Pete-KT · 11-13-2005, 12:04 AM

Kool, did Nader talk to you abou the 19th yet? if not hit me up on icq and ill get you the details.

Elli · 11-13-2005, 12:04 AM

Sorry to hear about it, Aaron. When good business friendships go bad it's always a sad thing.

Kevsh · 11-13-2005, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM

Fair question and I honestly don;t have a good answer for it other than this:

GFY is my place to vent. The other reason is that he is not aware that I know what he has done and when he reads this thread, he's gonna wonder if I am talking about him and how I found out that he fucked me over. That will fuck with his head and keep him guessing.

Okay, good answer ... and quite shrewd, btw.

Paul Markham · 11-13-2005, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by damian2001

Maybe he thought you where ripping off the model in question and was doing her a favour?

Models are here today gone tomorrow, don't ever think of them as your friends.

CherryLipsRosa · 11-13-2005, 12:06 AM

Aaron you are a professional and if you do not do good profits then you would not be a master of your trade. Remember one thing, what goes around comes around and if this is true then he will get his share one day.

AaronM · 11-13-2005, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paraskass

If you come here to call someone out, without naming them, it's drama, and it's for publicity, nothing more.

You're a fucking idiot. If I were calling him out then I would have posted his name. If you don't like my threads then stop reading them, troll.

Publicity huh? In case you are unaware...I'm one of the most branded names on this board and many others already. There is nothing in my sig that benefits me directly and I am not here to make new friends or clients. I;m here to entertain myself and ME only.

Now, put on your funny little hat and dance for me until the next court jester arrives to replace you.

llporter · 11-13-2005, 12:08 AM

Let the venting commence

AaronM · 11-13-2005, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NichePay_PeteKT

Kool, did Nader talk to you abou the 19th yet? if not hit me up on icq and ill get you the details.

Yep, he sent me an email about it all a week or two ago. Thanks though. It's all good.

Pete-KT · 11-13-2005, 12:11 AM

sweet sounds good, see you there.

Im looking at getting lights for the Rebel XT whats good photography lights? also maybe you can help me out with some settings when i see you in LA

Damian_Maxcash · 11-13-2005, 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Models are here today gone tomorrow, don't ever think of them as your friends.

Welcome to 3 months ago

Models are becoming as important to our industry as producers and affiliates.

Cam sites, single girl sites and dating all rely on individuals.

As an affiliate "pleb" I realised that a while ago - Im shocked that someone in your position hasnt.

AaronM · 11-13-2005, 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IwantU_Rosalia_Lara

Aaron you are a professional and if you do not do good profits then you would not be a master of your trade. Remember one thing, what goes around comes around and if this is true then he will get his share one day.

He's been crying on my shoulder about how every time he gets a good thing going that the other party takes of and leaves him hanging. I've felt kinda sorry for the guy because of it but if this situation is any indication of how he has handled his other business dealing then I can fully understand why things continue to end up poor for him.

And at this point, I can't justify helping him break that pattern.

NoWhErE · 11-13-2005, 12:14 AM

Well, shit happens buddy.

Thats all I can say, stuff like this happens and will keep happening, its human nature.

Sig spot!

iBanker · 11-13-2005, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM

Fuck off, peasant.

THAT, was funny.

Thanks.

AaronM · 11-13-2005, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM

He did not do her or himself any favors with this.

I am the top paying and top producing porn photographer in this city. My offer to her was at the top of the local pay scale for solo work. I've shot girls in Portland, Phoenix, Chico, Los Angles, and Las Vegas at the same rate and they thanked me for giving them $1,500 worth of solo shoots. Most content providers simply don't have the client base or make enough to offer what I offered her. And she wanted it until he stepped in.

Correction:

I've even had models happy with receiving $1,000 for the same amount of work that I am now offering $1,500 for.

RAM · 11-13-2005, 01:13 AM

That is just a pain in the ass. Talking about money and then having someone use it against you sucks

XPays · 11-13-2005, 01:21 AM

loose lips sink ships - time to get a replacement and pick up the momentum

fatal attraction · 11-13-2005, 01:23 AM

Jeff, shooting_manic, shooting_manic1???

Sounds like him!!!
Sorry about this Aaron, that sucks!

grumpy · 11-13-2005, 01:30 AM

an old saying :

If you learn a monkey to climb you wil get a coconut on your head.

You will survive

bashbug · 11-13-2005, 01:35 AM

did fat camp get let out early?

pornstar2pac · 11-13-2005, 01:35 AM

I'm sure lensman is very sorry on what he did to you

AaronM · 11-13-2005, 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bashbug

did fat camp get let out early?

Why? Did your mom just get home or something?

God damn coward. Why don't you have the balls to post from your regular screen name?

AaronM · 11-13-2005, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornstar2pac

I'm sure lensman is very sorry on what he did to you

I highly doubt that.

XPays · 11-13-2005, 01:38 AM

i still think that time i posted a crappy quality pic and said you shot it was pretty funny

Doctor Dre · 11-13-2005, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatal attraction

Jeff, shooting_manic, shooting_manic1???

Sounds like him!!!
Sorry about this Aaron, that sucks!

Could also be somebody else from this board... who does content shooting business with aaron ... we'll never know anyways ;) and it's none of our business . It's just stupid that a dude that has 4 years of experiences with models can think about doing that to you. After 2 months, you already know the deal with models.

Damian_Maxcash · 11-13-2005, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM

I highly doubt that.

Im glad you could translate that bull into English.

Doctor Dre · 11-13-2005, 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAM

That is just a pain in the ass. Talking about money and then having someone use it against you sucks

especially with a model ... models are never to be trusted anyways.

11-12-2005, 11:42 PM	#1
AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	One of you has stabbed me in the back...And it will cost you. You've asked me to help you make money many times. You've expressed great interest in working on projects together on several occasions. Now you've betrayed my trust by discussing my income numbers with a model in order to discourage her from shooting with me since you didn't feel that $1,500 was enough for her to get paid based on your knowledge of my profits. I trusted you with this information and obviously should not have given it to you when you asked. So now, I've lost a potentially great model because your broke and jealous ass had to play the hater game since you can't afford to pay girls to shoot with you. We've gotten along fairly well for the last 4 years. That entire time you have been struggling because you refused to listen to my suggestions on how to capitalize on your talent....And you do have some kick ass talent.... BUT......You can kiss my ass if you think I will EVER do ANYTHING to help you or work with you after pulling that shit. You've just cost me thousands of dollars in lost revenue and for that, you can kiss our pending deal goodbye. That's right...No money for you. I was trying to be nice by cutting you in on that project but I only work with people that I can trust. And then you have the nerve to wonder why people never follow through and do business with you..... Fuck you and have a nice day. And for you drama loving bitches....No, I will not be providing his name but rest assured that he does post here and he will be seeing this thread.

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