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bigdog · 11-16-2005, 06:43 PM

Why don't more people use verotel? Is their a lot of bad history surrounding them?

chupacabra · 11-16-2005, 06:47 PM

verotel is a solid processor, not really any more bad history around their past than other processors that will remain unnamed who are still around... i feel safer using them (or other non-US based options) than US-based processors these days, for various reasons..

Worldnet · 11-16-2005, 07:09 PM

I get checks from them every month. Never a problem.

Bansheelinks · 11-16-2005, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by chupacabra

verotel is a solid processor, not really any more bad history around their past than other processors that will remain unnamed who are still around... i feel safer using them (or other non-US based options) than US-based processors these days, for various reasons..

because verotel does not have to answer to the bush regime.

chupacabra · 11-16-2005, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bansheelinks

because verotel does not have to answer to the bush regime.

Webby · 11-16-2005, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bigdog

Why don't more people use verotel? Is their a lot of bad history surrounding them?

One thing Verotel has in their favor, - especially after the iBill fiasco, - is the fact they don't actually lay their hands on client funds.

Another processor with the same or similar security for EU based webmasters and corps is SegPay.com

chowda · 11-16-2005, 10:06 PM

anymore reviews.. i would love to hear more b4 i pickem

Calvinguy · 11-16-2005, 11:17 PM

They have slow or no support. Joinpages are often down. Joinpages looks awful.

Pornwolf · 11-16-2005, 11:27 PM

On the flipside of the post above, conversions are better than with some other processors. They accept every possible card imaginable. Support is ok.

But, if you want to run an affilliate program using them forget it.

dcortez · 11-16-2005, 11:57 PM

I have been using Verotel for 3 years and their payment record is perfect.

They have NEVER missed a payment/wire. When my pager goes off at 4am every Monday morning, I know it's my 'you have money on the way' email from Verotel - great way to start each week.

They have upgraded their network infrastructure considerably to take on all the 'refugees' post US CC rule changes and other processors going down.

Their TicketsClub solution is a bit non-standard and many webmasters using their Pro solution suggest that Pro is markedly superior to TicketsClub, but I have had very good success with TicketsClub, especially recently - conversions surpass other more 'traditional' style processors I have used.

In addition to having a clean slate as far as payments go, Verotel also offers a good suite of billing tools including: multi-currency, multiple-pricing based on local currency, CC, checks, 900, debit, asian card, SMS...

When US V CC regs changed, Verotel was and continues to offer 3rd party processing which does not fall under US jurisdiction without having to squint your eyes and pretend. There are other 'international' processors who have (and do) push the envelope as far being outside of US jurisdiction.

As a Canadian webmaster, I like Verotel as it offers more access to the world market and is not overtly US-centric in culture. Many euro members recognize Verotel as a trusted 'local' brand.

-Dino

p.s. If you do sign up with Verotel and use their TicketsClub solution, feel free to contact me for some tips on how to get your conversions as high as possible - I have some design suggestions which have made a big diff for me and I would be happy to share them.

chaze · 11-17-2005, 12:01 AM

There great but you will lose alittle business since it's a ticket system and not a merchant account.

ONCE you get more sales you can upgrade to a merchat style program.

I send them business almost everyday.

Zester · 11-17-2005, 01:00 AM

they have been great with me

solonline · 11-17-2005, 01:06 AM

We have used them as primary on some of our sites for a while now with a Verotel Pro account. Never touched tickets club. Key points for non us biz is we can bill in Euros / GBP etc and get paid out in the same. Plus we are now getting rates as low as 5.4 or less with volume. No other US biller can compare to that , especially with the shite dollar rate, so its great to be paid in Euros / GBP. Intergration with NATS was a pain to begin with, but works like a dream now. Sign up pages are kind of strange, but who gives a fuck, they continue to card well and the rebill retention is good.
Thier admin is pretty dated, lacks many of the features that other billers offer, and yep support can be slow. We managed to get a contact their who we go to with problems or Qs and this usually gets us a quick response. They do have live support which seems to work around half of the time.
Overall they are great, and we defo make much more money by using them.

chupacabra · 11-17-2005, 02:31 AM

i can second the above references in regards to using their 'Verotel Pro' services instead of the 'Ticketsclub' system... in my opinion the Ticketsclub option is really only appropriate for micro-sites or those who are just starting out in the game.

their 'Pro' service is top-notch though, and they have never missed a wire for my sites either, i can also interject that i haven't really had any issues w/ their support team, but i stay up really late usually and call them via telephone during their business hours... so i cant speak for their email support.

you might also check out MyVirtualCard, we also use them on our sites and have found them to be a top-notch provider as well, and also far far away from the dreaded US soil... never missed a wire from them either, for what its worth. i wouldn't process w/in the US during the current political climes unless i was forced to at gunpoint, but thats just me..

spooky181 · 11-17-2005, 02:34 AM

Moved to Verotel 4 years ago when CCbill changed their regs. Have not looked back since they are top notch. Process so many more sales than CCbill. I can't speak highly enough of them....

bigdog · 11-17-2005, 02:54 AM

Asking about vertoel because seems everyone bitches about ccbill, but most guys use paycom,ccbill in their cascades

11-17-2005, 03:14 AM

Verotel

KGucci · 11-17-2005, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Webby

One thing Verotel has in their favor, - especially after the iBill fiasco, - is the fact they don't actually lay their hands on client funds.

Another processor with the same or similar security for EU based webmasters and corps is SegPay.com

Webby ~ Hit me up on ICQ when you have a chance. Thanks!!!

DEViANCE · 11-17-2005, 09:23 AM

As a "former" pass cracker I would say Verotel is a pretty good choice from a security standpoint; just be sure to rename and hide the "verotelrum.pl" file.

Pandemos · 11-17-2005, 10:44 AM

I use Verotel as both an affiliate and pay-site owner. Never really had any major problems. One of their cheques did bounce last month, but an adequate explanation was given, funds resent and charges reimbursed.

I suppose my one real gripe would be that they are a bit crap with email. It can be hard to get an answer to a simple question. Sadly, that's not just a Verotel problem these days. Fetish Dollars didn't reply to an email sent four times, CCBill have *never* replied to any email I've sent them.

Radik · 11-17-2005, 10:45 AM

Yup thumbs up for them never a problem with cash, only issue is cheques get lost; switch to wire never an issue.

Radik · 11-17-2005, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dcortez

I have been using Verotel for 3 years and their payment record is perfect..

dino noticed your on vancouver island got an icq #?.

gxer · 11-17-2005, 12:11 PM

Verotel is 10 times better than ccbill that's for sure.

Pornwolf · 11-17-2005, 12:55 PM

Wow, I didn't know it was possible to integrate into Nats. That's a big plus for them considering they have higher conversion rates than most other billers according to nearly every webmaster that uses them.

Hmmm...

chowda · 11-18-2005, 10:26 AM

i need to know if they can process something non adult.. like online gaming info.. is there a way of finding out?

Radik · 11-18-2005, 11:02 AM

send them an email.. i doubt they will do gaming tho.

SeniorX · 11-18-2005, 01:04 PM

last i checked, support was slow and they didn't offer custom stuff.

INever · 12-04-2005, 03:53 AM

Does Verotel have a aff-linking code format that allows linking to any page on a sponsors' site?

If so w, what is it?

BSleazy · 12-04-2005, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by spooky181

Moved to Verotel 4 years ago when CCbill changed their regs. Have not looked back since they are top notch. Process so many more sales than CCbill. I can't speak highly enough of them....

Sales 4 USD 7.96 for cheatingxxxwife

from what I've sent your site. how do I only get $7.96 for 4 sales man??

whats verotels minimum payout?

also, someone should tell them they need to track clicks. for a while i didnt even know if i had my linking codes right for some sites untill i get a sale.

Zester · 12-04-2005, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by chowda

i need to know if they can process something non adult.. like online gaming info.. is there a way of finding out?

yes, they can process non adult stuff.

spooky181 · 12-04-2005, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BCyber

Sales 4 USD 7.96 for cheatingxxxwife

from what I've sent your site. how do I only get $7.96 for 4 sales man??

whats verotels minimum payout?

also, someone should tell them they need to track clicks. for a while i didnt even know if i had my linking codes right for some sites untill i get a sale.

Our trial is $3.99 for 3 days so your cut is $7.96 for the 4 sales. Our trials convert to full ($24.99) at around 40% so give it some time and you will see some very good $$$.

Ps I do have an email on my site and my program that you can email me on, but if you prefer you can use GFY to report how you are going with my program, all I ask is you post how you are going once the trials convert to full

spooky181 · 12-04-2005, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by chowda

i need to know if they can process something non adult.. like online gaming info.. is there a way of finding out?

Yes I use them for my golf web sites...

BSleazy · 12-04-2005, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by spooky181

Our trial is $3.99 for 3 days so your cut is $7.96 for the 4 sales. Our trials convert to full ($24.99) at around 40% so give it some time and you will see some very good $$$.

Ps I do have an email on my site and my program that you can email me on, but if you prefer you can use GFY to report how you are going with my program, all I ask is you post how you are going once the trials convert to full

Ya, I'm not trying to say anything bad. I've sent little to no traffic from what I know since I can't get traffic stats through verotel. I'm actually suprised I got any sales at all since it's just from people typing your website name into some se's.

SGS · 12-04-2005, 05:08 AM

Verotel have been around for a very long time now and paid out without any problems from day one as far as I understand?

justsexxx · 12-04-2005, 08:39 AM

I read here that their rate is 5.4%? How is that possible? The visa rate at backs is already 4.8% or so....

Or did you choose 5.4% + X monthly price?

Andre

INever · 12-04-2005, 09:06 AM

So far from what I see verotel offers less custom linking options, but you can at least track clicks under "my sales" or "my money"....

Pandemos · 12-04-2005, 10:31 AM

You can only find out clicks for a specific week or for all-time. There's no options to do so by month or date range. A real pain in the ass if you want to do something like track clicks over a period of a few months and work out ratios.

There are no custom linking options at all.

Also, if you promote a lot of sites on the one account, it's impossible to run reports for most of the day as the server can't handle it.

andrej_NDC · 12-04-2005, 01:05 PM

no email support and bad admin...

11-16-2005, 06:43 PM	#1
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	verotel processor? Why don't more people use verotel? Is their a lot of bad history surrounding them?

11-16-2005, 06:47 PM	#2
chupacabra Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,626	verotel is a solid processor, not really any more bad history around their past than other processors that will remain unnamed who are still around... i feel safer using them (or other non-US based options) than US-based processors these days, for various reasons.. __________________ ...promise her a defamation, tell her where the rain will fall..

11-16-2005, 10:06 PM	#7
chowda Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gooch city Posts: 9,527	anymore reviews.. i would love to hear more b4 i pickem __________________ Someone finds you... 2007 PS: Nationalnet is the best host I've ever had. And i tried alot of them.

11-16-2005, 11:27 PM	#9
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	On the flipside of the post above, conversions are better than with some other processors. They accept every possible card imaginable. Support is ok. But, if you want to run an affilliate program using them forget it. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

11-17-2005, 01:00 AM	#12
Zester Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 5,344	they have been great with me __________________ * Mainstream ? $65 per sale * new male contraception

11-16-2005, 07:09 PM	#3
Worldnet Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Atlanta Posts: 996	I get checks from them every month. Never a problem.

11-16-2005, 11:17 PM	#8
Calvinguy Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: European Union Posts: 1,752	They have slow or no support. Joinpages are often down. Joinpages looks awful.

11-16-2005, 11:57 PM	#10
dcortez DINO CORTEZ™ Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Vancouver Island Posts: 2,145	I have been using Verotel for 3 years and their payment record is perfect. They have NEVER missed a payment/wire. When my pager goes off at 4am every Monday morning, I know it's my 'you have money on the way' email from Verotel - great way to start each week. They have upgraded their network infrastructure considerably to take on all the 'refugees' post US CC rule changes and other processors going down. Their TicketsClub solution is a bit non-standard and many webmasters using their Pro solution suggest that Pro is markedly superior to TicketsClub, but I have had very good success with TicketsClub, especially recently - conversions surpass other more 'traditional' style processors I have used. In addition to having a clean slate as far as payments go, Verotel also offers a good suite of billing tools including: multi-currency, multiple-pricing based on local currency, CC, checks, 900, debit, asian card, SMS... When US V CC regs changed, Verotel was and continues to offer 3rd party processing which does not fall under US jurisdiction without having to squint your eyes and pretend. There are other 'international' processors who have (and do) push the envelope as far being outside of US jurisdiction. As a Canadian webmaster, I like Verotel as it offers more access to the world market and is not overtly US-centric in culture. Many euro members recognize Verotel as a trusted 'local' brand. -Dino p.s. If you do sign up with Verotel and use their TicketsClub solution, feel free to contact me for some tips on how to get your conversions as high as possible - I have some design suggestions which have made a big diff for me and I would be happy to share them.

11-17-2005, 12:01 AM	#11
chaze Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 9,752	There great but you will lose alittle business since it's a ticket system and not a merchant account. ONCE you get more sales you can upgrade to a merchat style program. I send them business almost everyday.

11-17-2005, 01:06 AM	#13
solonline Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: EU- Posts: 718	We have used them as primary on some of our sites for a while now with a Verotel Pro account. Never touched tickets club. Key points for non us biz is we can bill in Euros / GBP etc and get paid out in the same. Plus we are now getting rates as low as 5.4 or less with volume. No other US biller can compare to that , especially with the shite dollar rate, so its great to be paid in Euros / GBP. Intergration with NATS was a pain to begin with, but works like a dream now. Sign up pages are kind of strange, but who gives a fuck, they continue to card well and the rebill retention is good. Thier admin is pretty dated, lacks many of the features that other billers offer, and yep support can be slow. We managed to get a contact their who we go to with problems or Qs and this usually gets us a quick response. They do have live support which seems to work around half of the time. Overall they are great, and we defo make much more money by using them.

11-17-2005, 02:31 AM	#14
chupacabra Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,626	i can second the above references in regards to using their 'Verotel Pro' services instead of the 'Ticketsclub' system... in my opinion the Ticketsclub option is really only appropriate for micro-sites or those who are just starting out in the game. their 'Pro' service is top-notch though, and they have never missed a wire for my sites either, i can also interject that i haven't really had any issues w/ their support team, but i stay up really late usually and call them via telephone during their business hours... so i cant speak for their email support. you might also check out MyVirtualCard, we also use them on our sites and have found them to be a top-notch provider as well, and also far far away from the dreaded US soil... never missed a wire from them either, for what its worth. i wouldn't process w/in the US during the current political climes unless i was forced to at gunpoint, but thats just me.. __________________ ...promise her a defamation, tell her where the rain will fall..

11-17-2005, 02:34 AM	#15
spooky181 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: back of beyond Posts: 2,951	Moved to Verotel 4 years ago when CCbill changed their regs. Have not looked back since they are top notch. Process so many more sales than CCbill. I can't speak highly enough of them....

11-17-2005, 02:54 AM	#16
bigdog Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,964	Asking about vertoel because seems everyone bitches about ccbill, but most guys use paycom,ccbill in their cascades

11-17-2005, 09:23 AM	#19
DEViANCE Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 44	As a "former" pass cracker I would say Verotel is a pretty good choice from a security standpoint; just be sure to rename and hide the "verotelrum.pl" file. __________________ -=-Your site probably isn't nearly as secure as you think-=-

11-17-2005, 10:44 AM	#20
Pandemos Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Derbyshire, UK Posts: 956	I use Verotel as both an affiliate and pay-site owner. Never really had any major problems. One of their cheques did bounce last month, but an adequate explanation was given, funds resent and charges reimbursed. I suppose my one real gripe would be that they are a bit crap with email. It can be hard to get an answer to a simple question. Sadly, that's not just a Verotel problem these days. Fetish Dollars didn't reply to an email sent four times, CCBill have never replied to any email I've sent them. __________________ http://pandemos.net Where Woman > man

11-17-2005, 10:45 AM	#21
Radik Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Vancouver ICQ: 3588423 Posts: 808	Yup thumbs up for them never a problem with cash, only issue is cheques get lost; switch to wire never an issue. __________________ 100% Exclusive, Check Us Out!

11-17-2005, 12:11 PM	#23
gxer Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Location Posts: 846	Verotel is 10 times better than ccbill that's for sure.

11-17-2005, 12:55 PM	#24
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	Wow, I didn't know it was possible to integrate into Nats. That's a big plus for them considering they have higher conversion rates than most other billers according to nearly every webmaster that uses them. Hmmm... __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

11-18-2005, 10:26 AM	#25
chowda Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gooch city Posts: 9,527	i need to know if they can process something non adult.. like online gaming info.. is there a way of finding out? __________________ Someone finds you... 2007 PS: Nationalnet is the best host I've ever had. And i tried alot of them.

11-18-2005, 11:02 AM	#26
Radik Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Vancouver ICQ: 3588423 Posts: 808	send them an email.. i doubt they will do gaming tho. __________________ 100% Exclusive, Check Us Out!

11-18-2005, 01:04 PM	#27
SeniorX Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 302	last i checked, support was slow and they didn't offer custom stuff.

12-04-2005, 03:53 AM	#28
INever Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: .......in a niche, in orbit...... Posts: 3,585	Does Verotel have a aff-linking code format that allows linking to any page on a sponsors' site? If so w, what is it? __________________ I love Camdough

12-04-2005, 05:08 AM	#34
SGS Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mallorca - Nottingham Posts: 5,176	Verotel have been around for a very long time now and paid out without any problems from day one as far as I understand? __________________ See sig...

12-04-2005, 08:39 AM	#35
justsexxx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 13,723	I read here that their rate is 5.4%? How is that possible? The visa rate at backs is already 4.8% or so.... Or did you choose 5.4% + X monthly price? Andre __________________ Questions? ICQ: 125184542

12-04-2005, 09:06 AM	#36
INever Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: .......in a niche, in orbit...... Posts: 3,585	So far from what I see verotel offers less custom linking options, but you can at least track clicks under "my sales" or "my money".... __________________ I love Camdough

12-04-2005, 10:31 AM	#37
Pandemos Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Derbyshire, UK Posts: 956	You can only find out clicks for a specific week or for all-time. There's no options to do so by month or date range. A real pain in the ass if you want to do something like track clicks over a period of a few months and work out ratios. There are no custom linking options at all. Also, if you promote a lot of sites on the one account, it's impossible to run reports for most of the day as the server can't handle it. __________________ http://pandemos.net Where Woman > man

12-04-2005, 01:05 PM	#38
andrej_NDC Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7,760	no email support and bad admin...