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Spudstr · 11-19-2005, 12:55 AM

Alright guys webmasters which ones do you prefer?

and or any reps with processors please contact me on icq or my email.

thankss

AdultMegaCash · 11-19-2005, 12:59 AM

Depends what you are mainly looking to do? If running affiliates with them as well, ccbill has a very nice set up.

hentchiu · 11-19-2005, 01:01 AM

CCBILL by far has a nice web interface...better than paycom

but i heard paycom approves a bit more.... still testing

Beaver Bob · 11-19-2005, 02:25 AM

ccbill is the industry leader. by far

and their staff is really helpful.

solonline · 11-19-2005, 02:35 AM

Both of them = Nats = Cascade

Vitasoy · 11-19-2005, 02:37 AM

Use both, best of both worlds

basschick · 11-19-2005, 02:53 AM

i agree that both is your best choice, but if you wanna start with one...

if your main concern is getting affiliates, ccbill is probably your best bet. they allow webmasters to marry all their account together into 1 check, which is very appealing to european webmasters. also ccbill is a little easier to set up, and more affiliates are familiar with how to set up links through them.

on the other hand, if you want to have cross sales on your join page that are deals like getting paid $15 on a $1 signup, paycom is the way to go. and btw, paycom is now showing hits info in their stats. and with epoch/paycom, you get rand to help you out if you need it - he rocks ;) paycom is also offers a lot more setup options (although figuring them out without talking to support wasn't easy) and if you use your data dump, you will have a world of info at your fingertips.

aico · 11-19-2005, 02:57 AM

I use paycom... have had no problems.

Marshal · 11-19-2005, 03:27 AM

i prefer paycom, definitely!

Spudstr · 11-19-2005, 03:34 AM

well depending on how much longer i wait till i launch nats might be an option don't really feel like shelling otu 1500 bucks for setup :-/ how reliable are webmasters on home grown solutions? i have 3 years experiance coding mainstream affiliate systems so pulling one together myself wouldn't be an issue. though having a ccbill option for webmasters for the all in one check method is an idea also.

Screaming · 11-19-2005, 05:22 AM

paycom hands down

Spudstr · 11-19-2005, 11:52 AM

bump for day crew

Rand · 11-19-2005, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spudstr

Alright guys webmasters which ones do you prefer?

and or any reps with processors please contact me on icq or my email.

thankss

Spudstr,

I'm out of town on personal business until the Monday after Thanksgiving. But, if you would like to see if we are a good fit for each other, please drop us a line at [email protected]. Please put "Spudstr / GFY" in the subject line and we will be in touch.

I'll be back on the grid after Thanksgiving.

directfiesta · 11-19-2005, 10:43 PM

I cannot say about CCbill, since I do not use them.

But Paycom, that I use, has been very stable.

Support has been great, mainly from a certain Busola ( or Busala... ).

sonofsam · 11-19-2005, 10:43 PM

go with paycom

Major (Tom) · 11-19-2005, 11:10 PM

you need both...

Plus you need a solid casgade script like nats.
I recomend amanda gross for paycom and andy keifer for ccbill.
each one will treat you like they are your children. I have nothing but great suppot from each. as far as nats goes, there is really nothing better i can say that hasnt been said already. These guys are simply phenominal. They are they best. Hit me up if you need contact info for each. (paycom) (ccbil) (nats).
Duke

Major (Tom) · 11-19-2005, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam

go with paycom

I need more cartoons

Duke

gecko · 11-19-2005, 11:20 PM

If I can only pick one.. paycom

aico · 11-19-2005, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

you need both...

Plus you need a solid casgade script like nats.
I recomend amanda gross for paycom and andy keifer for ccbill.
each one will treat you like they are your children. I have nothing but great suppot from each. as far as nats goes, there is really nothing better i can say that hasnt been said already. These guys are simply phenominal. They are they best. Hit me up if you need contact info for each. (paycom) (ccbil) (nats).
Duke

This is what I never understood. Why do you need both? Makes no sense to me. I am pretty sure (although I could be wrong), that since both Paycom and CCBill are reputable and good companies, and neither would want to lose their Visa processing that they both scrub transactions with the same or close to the same standards. So if one card doesn't get approved with Paycom, I would assume there is probably a 90 - 95% chance it won't get approved with CCBill either, and vice versa. Doesn't make sense to me why you would need or want both.

I personally think that Cascading is just something everyone "thinks" they need because someone told them they did. "Because they told me I needed it" seems to run rampant in this biz (ie. "Blogs").

Major (Tom) · 11-19-2005, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico

This is what I never understood. Why do you need both? Makes no sense to me. I am pretty sure (although I could be wrong), that since both Paycom and CCBill are reputable and good companies, and neither would want to lose their Visa processing that they both scrub transactions with the same or close to the same standards. So if one card doesn't get approved with Paycom, I would assume there is probably a 90 - 95% chance it won't get approved with CCBill either, and vice versa. Doesn't make sense to me why you would need or want both.

I personally think that Cascading is just something everyone "thinks" they need because someone told them they did. "Because they told me I needed it" seems to run rampant in this biz (ie. "Blogs").

All about the eggs in one basket.. you need to learn that quick. Look into my virtual car too. I split my members up to a different % each month.

Thats how you stay in business! always look to have enough per biller to pay 3 months of affilate payouts. this way if you loose they dont.
Cheers
Duke
Duke

Theprincipal · 11-19-2005, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico

This is what I never understood. Why do you need both? Makes no sense to me. I am pretty sure (although I could be wrong), that since both Paycom and CCBill are reputable and good companies, and neither would want to lose their Visa processing that they both scrub transactions with the same or close to the same standards. So if one card doesn't get approved with Paycom, I would assume there is probably a 90 - 95% chance it won't get approved with CCBill either, and vice versa. Doesn't make sense to me why you would need or want both.

I personally think that Cascading is just something everyone "thinks" they need because someone told them they did. "Because they told me I needed it" seems to run rampant in this biz (ie. "Blogs").

One word for you...... Ibill

Major (Tom) · 11-20-2005, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theprincipal

One word for you...... Ibill

preach on! and on!

Duke

abz · 11-20-2005, 12:29 AM

I don't have any problems with CCBill.

Fetish · 11-20-2005, 12:42 AM

If you are just starting out, use CCbill for memberships and Netbilling if you are going to sell products. Once you build up enough volume to get your own merchant account (if it is memberships you are indeed selling), have Netbilling get yu a merchant account for that too and you will be golden.

Morgan · 11-20-2005, 01:28 AM

both dude

Major (Tom) · 11-20-2005, 03:41 AM

you need both bottom line..
if anyone tells you different i have a bridge in brooklyn im auctioning off later this week.

Duke

thewebgarage · 11-20-2005, 08:19 AM

get both and cascade

webmeister · 11-20-2005, 11:07 AM

You might want to consider Ibill. They have the lowest rates in the industry under 10%. They have had some trouble paying on time, but they say this will eventually change and they will get current again. Also GKard doesn't accept Discover credit card, so you will be losing all those transactions as well.

Dalai lama · 11-20-2005, 11:10 AM

We use Paycom, going to switch to both in 2006.

bigdog · 11-20-2005, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webmeister

You might want to consider Ibill. They have the lowest rates in the industry under 10%. They have had some trouble paying on time, but they say this will eventually change and they will get current again. Also GKard doesn't accept Discover credit card, so you will be losing all those transactions as well.

ibill you have to be kidding me

KingK7 · 11-20-2005, 11:27 AM

We use both, have to say I prefer Paycom though

Zprogramz · 11-20-2005, 12:27 PM

Netbilling as primary and CCbill or Paycom as a backup just in case. You wikll save money that way and get better conversions by far.

Z

1orglaugh · 11-20-2005, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webmeister

You might want to consider Ibill.

11-19-2005, 12:55 AM	#1
Spudstr Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In a Tater Patch Posts: 2,321	epoch/paycom or ccbill Alright guys webmasters which ones do you prefer? and or any reps with processors please contact me on icq or my email. thankss __________________ Managed Hosting - Colocation - Network Services Yellow Fiber Networks icq: 19876563

11-19-2005, 12:59 AM	#2
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11-19-2005, 02:25 AM	#4
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11-19-2005, 02:37 AM	#6
Vitasoy GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 58,202	Use both, best of both worlds __________________ [email protected]

11-19-2005, 02:53 AM	#7
basschick Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: el lay, ca usa Posts: 2,540	i agree that both is your best choice, but if you wanna start with one... if your main concern is getting affiliates, ccbill is probably your best bet. they allow webmasters to marry all their account together into 1 check, which is very appealing to european webmasters. also ccbill is a little easier to set up, and more affiliates are familiar with how to set up links through them. on the other hand, if you want to have cross sales on your join page that are deals like getting paid $15 on a $1 signup, paycom is the way to go. and btw, paycom is now showing hits info in their stats. and with epoch/paycom, you get rand to help you out if you need it - he rocks ;) paycom is also offers a lot more setup options (although figuring them out without talking to support wasn't easy) and if you use your data dump, you will have a world of info at your fingertips. __________________ Got Gay and For Women Traffic?

11-19-2005, 01:01 AM	#3
hentchiu Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 199	CCBILL by far has a nice web interface...better than paycom but i heard paycom approves a bit more.... still testing

11-19-2005, 02:35 AM	#5
solonline Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: EU- Posts: 718	Both of them = Nats = Cascade

11-19-2005, 02:57 AM	#8
aico Moo Moo Cow Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington State Posts: 14,748	I use paycom... have had no problems.

11-19-2005, 03:27 AM	#9
Marshal Biz Dev and SEO Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 15,180	i prefer paycom, definitely! __________________ --- Busy ranking websites on Google...

11-19-2005, 03:34 AM	#10
Spudstr Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In a Tater Patch Posts: 2,321	well depending on how much longer i wait till i launch nats might be an option don't really feel like shelling otu 1500 bucks for setup :-/ how reliable are webmasters on home grown solutions? i have 3 years experiance coding mainstream affiliate systems so pulling one together myself wouldn't be an issue. though having a ccbill option for webmasters for the all in one check method is an idea also. __________________ Managed Hosting - Colocation - Network Services Yellow Fiber Networks icq: 19876563

11-19-2005, 05:22 AM	#11
Screaming I can change this!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 18,972	paycom hands down __________________

11-19-2005, 11:52 AM	#12
Spudstr Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: In a Tater Patch Posts: 2,321	bump for day crew __________________ Managed Hosting - Colocation - Network Services Yellow Fiber Networks icq: 19876563

11-19-2005, 10:43 PM	#14
directfiesta Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 29,659	I cannot say about CCbill, since I do not use them. But Paycom, that I use, has been very stable. Support has been great, mainly from a certain Busola ( or Busala... ). __________________ I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT ! But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

11-19-2005, 10:43 PM	#15
sonofsam Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 18,638	go with paycom __________________ I like turtles.

11-19-2005, 11:10 PM	#16
Major (Tom) Boomer Woffen Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Null Posts: 30,506	you need both... Plus you need a solid casgade script like nats. I recomend amanda gross for paycom and andy keifer for ccbill. each one will treat you like they are your children. I have nothing but great suppot from each. as far as nats goes, there is really nothing better i can say that hasnt been said already. These guys are simply phenominal. They are they best. Hit me up if you need contact info for each. (paycom) (ccbil) (nats). Duke __________________ My mother said, to get things done You'd better not mess with Major Tom

11-19-2005, 11:20 PM	#18
gecko ****** Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 21,846	If I can only pick one.. paycom __________________ [email protected]

11-20-2005, 12:29 AM	#23
abz Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: 109-819-688 Posts: 4,498	I don't have any problems with CCBill. __________________ Got mainstream or adult blogs? Create an adsense empire with the click of a button Need Banners Galleries Logos? Reliable Designer -- ICQ -- 109-825-688

11-20-2005, 12:42 AM	#24
Fetish Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 823	If you are just starting out, use CCbill for memberships and Netbilling if you are going to sell products. Once you build up enough volume to get your own merchant account (if it is memberships you are indeed selling), have Netbilling get yu a merchant account for that too and you will be golden.

11-20-2005, 01:28 AM	#25
Morgan Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Corona Del Mar, CA Posts: 10,520	both dude __________________ PornstarPlatinum.com \| TransErotica.com

11-20-2005, 03:41 AM	#26
Major (Tom) Boomer Woffen Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Null Posts: 30,506	you need both bottom line.. if anyone tells you different i have a bridge in brooklyn im auctioning off later this week. Duke __________________ My mother said, to get things done You'd better not mess with Major Tom

11-20-2005, 08:19 AM	#27
thewebgarage Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: cali Posts: 1,002	get both and cascade __________________ Big Boob trades icq 265907826

11-20-2005, 11:07 AM	#28
webmeister Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 69	You might want to consider Ibill. They have the lowest rates in the industry under 10%. They have had some trouble paying on time, but they say this will eventually change and they will get current again. Also GKard doesn't accept Discover credit card, so you will be losing all those transactions as well.

11-20-2005, 11:10 AM	#29
Dalai lama Strength and Honor Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 16,540	We use Paycom, going to switch to both in 2006. __________________ A program you can trust. Gallerybooster Run multiply TGPs of 1 script

11-20-2005, 11:27 AM	#31
KingK7 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 6,372	We use both, have to say I prefer Paycom though

11-20-2005, 12:27 PM	#32
Zprogramz Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,360	Netbilling as primary and CCbill or Paycom as a backup just in case. You wikll save money that way and get better conversions by far. Z