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Old 12-01-2005, 08:47 PM   #1
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SINGAPOORE: 15 grams ? you hang till death....

Not just in " towel heads" countries....

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SINGAPORE (AFP) - Amnesty International and other human rights groups have condemned the execution of Australian drug runner Nguyen Tuong Van in Singapore.


"Amnesty International condemns this execution this morning," Tim Goodwin, the group's anti-death penalty coordinator, told AFP from Sydney.

"It is an extremely sad day for his family, who have been brutalized by this cruel punishment."

Nguyen, 25, was hanged at Singapore's Changi Prison despite repeated pleas for clemency from Australia. He was convicted three years ago of carrying nearly 400 grams (14 ounces) of heroin while in transit to Australia.

Possession of more than 15 grams is punishable by death.

Despite pressure from Canberra, Singapore maintained its stance that there would be no pardon for Nguyen, who was born in a refugee camp after his mother fled Vietnam in 1980.

"All factors have been taken into account but the government decided that the law has to take its course and the law will take its course," Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong said on the eve of the hanging.

He said Nguyen was carrying the equivalent of 26,000 doses of heroin when he was arrested and the death penalty deterred traffickers.

But Amnesty said the death penalty would not protect Singapore against the drug trade.

"We need to be reminded this time that the death penalty is ineffective in deterring crime ... it is an illusion that the death penalty will deter these criminal acts," said Goodwin.

Singapore's Think Centre, one of the rare civil rights groups that openly questions government policies, joined the chorus of criticism, agreeing that the death penalty would not keep drugs out of the city-state.

"People are still trying to bring in drugs via transit ... the drug problem cannot be solved by just getting the drug couriers," said Sinapan Samydorai, president of Think Centre.

The newly-formed Singapore Anti-Death Penalty Committee said in a statement they "utterly deplore and condemn" the hanging as an "inhumane and barbaric punishment disproportionate to his crime."

M. Ravi, a prominent Singapore-based human rights lawyer, called the killing "state-sanctioned murder".

"In a civil society such as Singapore, and the world that is watching this, they must learn from this lesson," he said outside Changi Prison just before the execution took place.

"At this moment, his hands are being tied, his ankles are being manacled and a hood is being placed over his head. A state sanctioned murder is going to take place."

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Old 12-01-2005, 08:49 PM   #2
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Pffff... That's nothing.

Last week I read an article saying that the US is the country that most sentence to death and kill kids under 18.
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Old 12-01-2005, 08:55 PM   #3
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He knew the rules, he knew the risks, he made his own bed and now he can lay and rest in peace in it.
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Old 12-01-2005, 09:11 PM   #4
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If the government said that killing him would not deter trafficers, then what was the point...

I am for the death penalty, but only under certain circumstances.
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Old 12-01-2005, 09:12 PM   #5
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Heroin and death penalty, ha ha irony?
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Old 12-01-2005, 09:14 PM   #6
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Fucking brutal but he had to know the risks.
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Old 12-01-2005, 09:17 PM   #7
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If the government said that killing him would not deter trafficers, then what was the point...

I am for the death penalty, but only under certain circumstances.

if you kids actually spent any time in singapore you might see the results of toughness on crime.

amost zero crime, the cleanest place in the world, and a very polite and advanced society.

they make the rules, it is their country. want to be easy on dope?---go to north africa, (or camden, nj)

and carry a gun to protect yourself.

societal priorities.
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Old 12-01-2005, 09:17 PM   #8
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15 grams of pure heroin is alot... more than anyone would have for a personal supply.
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Old 12-01-2005, 09:19 PM   #9
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Like chopping off your hand for stealing in another country..it's a deteriment and it works for most people.
We seriously need to follow some of these laws for pedos and rapists etc..Our justice system is a complete joke.
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Old 12-01-2005, 09:22 PM   #10
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yeah i agree, he chose to do it. its his own fault.
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Old 12-01-2005, 09:22 PM   #11
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"Singapore has show nits arrogance with this barbaric act."
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Old 12-01-2005, 09:27 PM   #12
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15 grams of pure heroin is alot... more than anyone would have for a personal supply.
No one ever said it was for personal supply. The guy was a known drug runner.
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Old 12-01-2005, 09:29 PM   #13
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15 grams of pure heroin is alot... more than anyone would have for a personal supply.

Guess it depends on what you are used to
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Old 12-01-2005, 09:30 PM   #14
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He knew the rules, he knew the risks, he made his own bed and now he can lay and rest in peace in it.

Exactly !

Singapour is a nice place to live.
No drugs at all = No crime
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Old 12-01-2005, 09:36 PM   #15
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i am from australia and this thing has been all over our newspapers and tvs for the last couple of weeks
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Old 12-01-2005, 09:38 PM   #16
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Don't you fucking do business there if you don't want to suffer the same fate.
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Old 12-01-2005, 09:54 PM   #17
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Personally, I think CP should only be reserved for child murderers, serial rapists and cop killers.

To those who claim it ain't a deterrent - who cares. It ensures the fuckers won't repeat and saves the tax payers the cost of housing, feeding, heating, entertaining and educating the lowlifes.
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Old 12-01-2005, 10:54 PM   #18
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why would you lump cop killers in with serial rapists and child killers? cops are paid to put their ass on the line.
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Old 12-01-2005, 11:02 PM   #19
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Pffff... That's nothing.

Last week I read an article saying that the US is the country that most sentence to death and kill kids under 18.
What were the crimes and what was the ratio of deaths to crimes?
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This surprises you about Singapore? It is a VERY beautiful country because of the strict laws they put in place.
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Old 12-01-2005, 11:12 PM   #21
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why would you lump cop killers in with serial rapists and child killers? cops are paid to put their ass on the line.
I think SilentKnight was using CP meaning Capital Punishment
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Old 12-01-2005, 11:12 PM   #22
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The day he decided to play by his own rules is the day he signed his death certificate.
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Old 12-01-2005, 11:15 PM   #23
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the place is a little too "clean" in a Nazi sorta way....
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Im glad they killed him 14 oz of herione
He probably would have killed more people with that
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Pushing through that penalty even with so much international pressure only proved how serious the government is on their drive against drug trafficking.
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i like how they use the word "hanged"
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Old 12-02-2005, 03:57 AM   #27
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he had 400 grams of heroin. that's 14 oz. that's a lot of fucking heroin

oh, nevermind, that was 3 years ago
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Old 12-02-2005, 04:04 AM   #28
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