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Old 12-19-2005, 05:36 PM   #1
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:stop AVN you COCK SMOKERS! Do you have anyone that uses thier brain?

Well as if the information the other day was not enough that AVN likes to charge for the assistants to our brothers in wheel chairs, today they hit a new low.

I went to get my mail, and found this in it.





Not in a wrapper, not in a bigger envelope, just like you see it, but with my address.

Had it said pornographers, it would not have bothered me. And I dont have a problem with Gay men or women, and I dont have a problem with straight men or women that work in gay porn. But I do have a problem with you sending something that the people who deliver my mail can look at, that allows nosy people to form opinions, and talk. And guess fucking what. POEPLE are NOSY!

And I dont need or want the issues that can come from people talking. I dont only work in porn, but we do mainstream business. Explaining it saying pornographers would have been easy.

Thanks for not thinking fuckwads.
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Old 12-19-2005, 05:37 PM   #2
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This has been posted numerous times, and they refuse to take any resposibility for it. You're fucked unless you go to their site and opt out
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Old 12-19-2005, 05:40 PM   #3
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I am not always on gfy, and had not seen any previous posts. and sorry to those that are seing this from yet another person.
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Old 12-19-2005, 05:41 PM   #4
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Old 12-19-2005, 05:41 PM   #5
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Our postal guy is cool i event give him passwords to our sites

But i understand your concern
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ya this is has been bitched about a few times already.
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Old 12-19-2005, 05:43 PM   #7
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Old 12-19-2005, 05:43 PM   #8
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Old 12-19-2005, 05:44 PM   #9
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I am not always on gfy, and had not seen any previous posts. and sorry to those that are seing this from yet another person.
no no no... just letting you know that you are definitely not the only one that noticed this... that's all. I understand your concern...
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Old 12-19-2005, 05:44 PM   #10
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Old 12-19-2005, 05:45 PM   #11
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Attention to detail and taking the time to notice the little things go a long way in life. Seems to be something AVN is completely oblivious to. Good organization overall, but they seem to fall seriously short too many times for them to have much credibility left.
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thats cus we live in LA bro. Everywhere else people trip out on this shit i guess.
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I think the official response was " we have a removal form " or something lame
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Old 12-19-2005, 05:48 PM   #17
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AVN's response was something along the lines of "you asked for it, crybaby, so fuck off."
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Old 12-19-2005, 05:48 PM   #18
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Now your mailman will start leaving his sweaty underwear in your mailbox..
Shit, that sounds hot..
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Old 12-19-2005, 05:51 PM   #19
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thats cus we live in LA bro. Everywhere else people trip out on this shit i guess.
i proposed a very easy example you might not find as amusing

Say your a happily married man , you live in a small town and coach the local kids hockey team, if you get gay magazine covers sent to your mailbox , people will talk , you will no longer be coaching anything.. regardless of your job or sexual orientation.. thats just life.. ..

and the second and more important point is..

If the majority of your customers say " please dont sent shit like that "

The proper and only response is "o.k."
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i proposed a very easy example you might not find as amusing

Say your a happily married man , you live in a small town and coach the local kids hockey team, if you get gay magazine covers sent to your mailbox , people will talk , you will no longer be coaching anything.. regardless of your job or sexual orientation.. thats just life.. ..

and the second and more important point is..

If the majority of your customers say " please dont sent shit like that "

The proper and only response is "o.k."
yeah, i could see that happening. People are fuckin nosy. I was just saying its a lil differant in LA.

As for AVN, I totally disagree with them doing what they did, thats terrible judgment on their part. And when they get called out on it, they should fix the problem with no ifs, and, or buts about it.
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ouch, that's rough man, I would have been pretty pissed too :-/
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i proposed a very easy example you might not find as amusing

Say your a happily married man , you live in a small town and coach the local kids hockey team, if you get gay magazine covers sent to your mailbox , people will talk , you will no longer be coaching anything.. regardless of your job or sexual orientation.. thats just life.. ..

and the second and more important point is..

If the majority of your customers say " please dont sent shit like that "

The proper and only response is "o.k."

THATS the thing. I DO LIVE IN a small town. The big problem for me, is that I live in Mexico. And the Mexican government has taken children from thier parents because one of them was gay. My son was born here, and that makes him a mexican citizen. He is also a US citizen, but imagine the issues, and the money in attorneys fees, if this spread.
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Old 12-19-2005, 06:05 PM   #24
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can't believe they could do such a thing, ive lost any little bit of respect i ever had for them.
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THATS the thing. I DO LIVE IN a small town. The big problem for me, is that I live in Mexico. And the Mexican government has taken children from thier parents because one of them was gay. My son was born here, and that makes him a mexican citizen. He is also a US citizen, but imagine the issues, and the money in attorneys fees, if this spread.
duuude, thats so fucked up. I would opt out asap if i was you. Seriously fucked up shit.
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I did, but we also askend them to only send one copy of the magazine, and we still get 2. And that was a year ago.
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I got the same shit in my mail and im fucked if i signed up for it... I went to the AVN.com site and cannot find an opt out link . Fucking assholes......

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Well as if the information the other day was not enough that AVN likes to charge for the assistants to our brothers in wheel chairs, today they hit a new low.

I went to get my mail, and found this in it.


Not in a wrapper, not in a bigger envelope, just like you see it, but with my address.

Had it said pornographers, it would not have bothered me. And I dont have a problem with Gay men or women, and I dont have a problem with straight men or women that work in gay porn. But I do have a problem with you sending something that the people who deliver my mail can look at, that allows nosy people to form opinions, and talk. And guess fucking what. POEPLE are NOSY!

And I dont need or want the issues that can come from people talking. I dont only work in porn, but we do mainstream business. Explaining it saying pornographers would have been easy.

Thanks for not thinking fuckwads.
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Old 12-19-2005, 06:54 PM   #29
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Start giving a flying fuck about what others think of you.

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have you subscribed to AVN mag before? Im just wondering because I havent and if this mag comes to my po box or office I'm gonna react badly
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Yeah. I got mine today too. Went right into the trash.
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Despite all the complaints, I don't understand why AVN still does it ...

Surely AVN must realize that many adult webmasters, etc don't want the whole world knowing what they do.

From a marketing standpoint, an envelope as in the scanned picture is likely to get tossed straight away, while a plain, descreet business looking envelope is more likely to get opened and read.

Pissing off adult webmasters seems like bad business - many already are wary of AVN because they feel their privacy won't be respected.

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They're idiotd for that mailing and assholes for not apologizing. If I was an advertiser, I would be PISSED because it's obvious their lack of judgement will lose a tremendous amount of the crossover subscriptions that their advertisers want to reach. You didn't have a choice about receiving it either! They sent that mailing out to everyone.

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Glad I don't subscribe to webmaster magazines Seems a little retarded to me.

if I want the news about "adult industry" I can go to any number of webmaster forums or websites!!!
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I gave mine to my neighbor....

He thanked me.

Who gives a shit.
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The issue was already addressed in another thread last week.
So welcome to last week.

From what I understand this is being fixed and fast.

Currently standard AVN Mag is covered and has been for sometime.

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i got this too, was a little pissed off too. i dont want this in my mailbox. its bad enough ive got packages coming all the time.
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Like I said, who gives a shit? Porn is porn whether it is straight or gay. Get over it.
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