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Old 12-04-2005, 04:47 PM   #1
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Why do all the flu's come from china?

Seriously, has anyone done any reading on the subject, ....why is it that every year the flu comes here via china?

Could it be mother nature trying to curb an overgrowing population? Or is it just a biproduct of poor sanitary conditions?
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All the birds(chickens) and swine(pigs) they raise.
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there are more epidemics on the way?
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1.3 Billion people and their hygiene is pretty bad.
I had a friend that went over there, that swore they cooked food on feces, used it as a fuel. His dad was some big shot at nc state & they went over there as guests of the govt.
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1.3 Billion people and their hygiene is pretty bad.
Yup... if you dump almost half the population of the planet into a tightly confined place... well, it's a perfect breeding ground for new viri and bacteria to try out some new tricks.
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No, its clearly know its from all the animals there.
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No, its clearly know its from all the animals there.
we got alot of animals here, they got alot of animals in india & russia
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I had a friend that went over there, that swore they cooked food on feces, used it as a fuel. His dad was some big shot at nc state & they went over there as guests of the govt.
This is true too.

The live animal markets, besides being cruel in the way they cram so many animals and poultry in the cages, are gross in terms of sanitation.

These are domestic cats:



And dogs:







It is estimated that up to 10 million dogs are slaughtered every year in China, many deliberately slowly and cruelly in the belief that "torture equals taste", whilst all suffer the stress and pain of being farmed in concentrated numbers before being killed in a variety of ways which rarely ensures a quick and humane death.

Animal Asia Investigators have witnessed trucks loaded with up to 2,000 dogs per truck arriving at the wholesale Hua Nam Wild Animal Market in Guangzhou. These poor animals have spent 3 days and 3 nights, squashed together in tiny cages, unable to move, without food, water or shelter. The dogs are then brutally lifted by the neck and hurled into a pen by a man wielding a metal tongs.

And these are the way domestics are handled. God only knows how they handle non-domestics.

So when you get this kind of discusting interaction between man and animals disease is easily created and spread.
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This is true too.

The live animal markets, besides being cruel in the way they cram so many animals and poultry in the cages, are gross in terms of sanitation.

These are domestic cats:



And dogs:







It is estimated that up to 10 million dogs are slaughtered every year in China, many deliberately slowly and cruelly in the belief that "torture equals taste", whilst all suffer the stress and pain of being farmed in concentrated numbers before being killed in a variety of ways which rarely ensures a quick and humane death.

Animal Asia Investigators have witnessed trucks loaded with up to 2,000 dogs per truck arriving at the wholesale Hua Nam Wild Animal Market in Guangzhou. These poor animals have spent 3 days and 3 nights, squashed together in tiny cages, unable to move, without food, water or shelter. The dogs are then brutally lifted by the neck and hurled into a pen by a man wielding a metal tongs.

And these are the way domestics are handled. God only knows how they handle non-domestics.

So when you get this kind of discusting interaction between man and animals disease is easily created and spread.
Damn those pics are sad...
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Seeing those dogs makes me want to pull out my AK & go fucking apeshit on those cocksucking mother fuckers.

Nuke china!
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Seeing those dogs makes me want to pull out my AK & go fucking apeshit on those cocksucking mother fuckers.

Nuke china!

I have said this so many fucking times... The Great Wall of China wasn't built by the Chinese to keep out the enemy... it was fucking built to keep those fuckers in...
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people always think the lyrics i post are just based on hate and anger.

here is some lyrics from Earth Crisis - a vegan straight edge band.

pics of the dogs led to slaughter only strengthen beliefs.



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Street by street. Block by block. Taking it all back.
The youth's immersed in poison--turn the tide
counterattack. Violence against violence, let the roundups begin.
A firestorm to purify the bane that society drowns in. No
mercy, no exceptions, a declaration of total war.
The innocents' defense is the reason it's waged for.
Born addicted, beaten
and neglected. Families torn apart, detroyed and abandoned.
Children sell their bodies, from their high they fall to drown.
Demons crazed by greed cut bystanders down.
A chemically tainted welfare generation.
Abslolute complete moral degeneration.
Born addicted, beaten and neglected.
Families torn apart, detroyed and abandoned.
Children sell their bodies, from their high
they fall to drown. Demons crazed by greed cut bystanders down.
Corrupt politicans, corrupt enforcement, drug lords and
dealers; all must fall. The helpless are crying out.
We have risen to their call. A firestorm to purify.

Forged in the flames of chaos.
Hammered by trials to tempered steel. Convictions, tried and tested,
onto a razor's edge, that's true and real.
Wrought between the hammer and the anvil, strengthened to never break.
The weakness that surrounds is the evil that I forsake.
Never have I taken in vain the sacred vessel of my soul. I am the master
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heart that's true and strong. Through this veil of shadows,
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street by street, block by block, let the r5ound ups begin

this will be done in the innocents defense.

yes its about killing humans for what theyve done to animals.
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Because in China the US corporations can do animal testing, and then release the little bug that they made, and blame it on the poor sanitary conditions in the country.
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umm because they are the most populated country.. thats fairly obvious.
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The helpless are crying out.
We have risen to their call.

A firestorm to purify the bane that society drowns in. No
mercy, no exceptions, a declaration of total war.
The innocents' defense is the reason it's waged for.

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I had a friend that went over there, that swore they cooked food on feces, used it as a fuel. His dad was some big shot at nc state & they went over there as guests of the govt.
Doesnt suprise me, american settlers used feces for cooking fuel and heating as well , and lots of american produce is grown in HUMAN feces right across the border.
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This is true too.

The live animal markets, besides being cruel in the way they cram so many animals and poultry in the cages, are gross in terms of sanitation.

These are domestic cats:



And dogs:







It is estimated that up to 10 million dogs are slaughtered every year in China, many deliberately slowly and cruelly in the belief that "torture equals taste", whilst all suffer the stress and pain of being farmed in concentrated numbers before being killed in a variety of ways which rarely ensures a quick and humane death..
I think i heard north america kills 6 million dogs and cats per year so that seems pretty close to average. The only difference is we burn and destroy the animals after we are finished with them , and they use the fur and meat for profit instead of wasting it.

Any animal lover is going to have issues with crowding so many animals in cages , but the same thing happens here just in a smaller fashion ( because we have alot less people/dogs/cats )
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Is Avian flu from China as well?
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Seriously, has anyone done any reading on the subject, ....why is it that every year the flu comes here via china?

Could it be mother nature trying to curb an overgrowing population? Or is it just a biproduct of poor sanitary conditions?
why not from Africa?!
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why not from Africa?!
Africa's population is already under attack from aids.

But yes, its one of the few places with ebola & plague problems
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Seeing those dogs makes me want to pull out my AK & go fucking apeshit on those cocksucking mother fuckers.

Nuke china!
me too. those fucking bastards
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this thread becomes somewhat an expression of hatred toward a certain race

may be those who hate Chinese as a whole should not fucking BUY nothing in the US....go live in some island with some monkeys...idiots

blame the population on some bad people.....extremely under educated IDIOTS

what a moron!!!


Flu are a diease spread among humans.....in every race

PEOPLE FORGOT ABOUT MADCOWS DIEASES!! how sad some of these idiots posting hatred comments...
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me too. those fucking bastards
Smokey the bear brings up an excellent pioint though.

MILLIONS of cats and dogs are slaughtered every year for NO PURPOSe other than - survey says "they have no home"

Horses are slaughtered and exported. People think horses meat ends up in dog food, bullshit - horse hide and meat is too expensive. Its sold out of the US because americans dont consume it.

America kills millions of animals every year in every animal shelter across the country. Yet are you doing anything? Raising any hell?

the animal holcaust is going on right now while you eat your mcdonalds burger.

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http://www.pbs.org/wildhorses/wh_sol...laughter1.html

americans only get pissed when they see chinamen eating dogs, but they never stop to think "what happens to those dogs at the shelter"

zyklon b is what happens to them.

9 billion birds are killed each year. Think about it next time you eat turkey on Thanksgiving.

http://www.hsus.org/farm_animals/far...out_there.html

america is nothing but a piece of shit hypocrit waiting to have its walls brought down.

violence against violence.

i wont even go into "trophy hunting pedos" who kill only for sport.

they are worst than pedos.

think about it the next time you guys are thaning Jesus for the turkey on your plate next Thanksgiving.
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Smokey the bear brings up an excellent pioint though.

MILLIONS of cats and dogs are slaughtered every year for NO PURPOSe other than - survey says "they have no home"

Horses are slaughtered and exported. People think horses meat ends up in dog food, bullshit - horse hide and meat is too expensive. Its sold out of the US because americans dont consume it.

America kills millions of animals every year in every animal shelter across the country. Yet are you doing anything? Raising any hell?

the animal holcaust is going on right now while you eat your mcdonalds burger.



http://www.pbs.org/wildhorses/wh_sol...laughter1.html

americans only get pissed when they see chinamen eating dogs, but they never stop to think "what happens to those dogs at the shelter"

zyklon b is what happens to them.

9 billion birds are killed each year. Think about it next time you eat turkey on Thanksgiving.

http://www.hsus.org/farm_animals/far...out_there.html

america is nothing but a piece of shit hypocrit waiting to have its walls brought down.

violence against violence.

i wont even go into "trophy hunting pedos" who kill only for sport.

they are worst than pedos.

think about it the next time you guys are thaning Jesus for the turkey on your plate next Thanksgiving.
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i have no hatred for china or the chinese

i hated seeing those dogs in crates

stop reading into it so much
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let me take a wild goose;
could it perhaps be that some chinese birds got losts while migratinig and where sucked into the jetstream at some point
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Smokey the bear brings up an excellent pioint though.

MILLIONS of cats and dogs are slaughtered every year for NO PURPOSe other than - survey says "they have no home"

Horses are slaughtered and exported. People think horses meat ends up in dog food, bullshit - horse hide and meat is too expensive. Its sold out of the US because americans dont consume it.

America kills millions of animals every year in every animal shelter across the country. Yet are you doing anything? Raising any hell?

the animal holcaust is going on right now while you eat your mcdonalds burger.



http://www.pbs.org/wildhorses/wh_sol...laughter1.html

americans only get pissed when they see chinamen eating dogs, but they never stop to think "what happens to those dogs at the shelter"

zyklon b is what happens to them.

9 billion birds are killed each year. Think about it next time you eat turkey on Thanksgiving.

http://www.hsus.org/farm_animals/far...out_there.html

america is nothing but a piece of shit hypocrit waiting to have its walls brought down.

violence against violence.

i wont even go into "trophy hunting pedos" who kill only for sport.

they are worst than pedos.

think about it the next time you guys are thaning Jesus for the turkey on your plate next Thanksgiving.

Not only that , those dogs/cats arent raised for meat they are stray's just like here , if you look close some of those dogs have collars ( i.e. they were pets ) . The chinese sell most of the "product" ( i.e. stray dogs /cats ) to the u.s. for commercial re-sale . ( i.e. they sell us what we throw away , then we get mad at them for doing it, when we should be getting mad at ourselves for being such idiots )
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I think i heard north america kills 6 million dogs and cats per year so that seems pretty close to average. The only difference is we burn and destroy the animals after we are finished with them , and they use the fur and meat for profit instead of wasting it.

Any animal lover is going to have issues with crowding so many animals in cages , but the same thing happens here just in a smaller fashion ( because we have alot less people/dogs/cats )
No, the same thing doesn't happen here Smokey. We do not cram dogs and cats into cages like that.

They don't even slaughter them. They torture them to death because they believe the more pain you give the animal the more tender the meat.

They usually just stab the dogs and cats while they are suspended, or will just hang them slowly, jab them repeatedly with electo shock devices till they die, skin them alive, beat them to death with baseball bats, and worst of all just throw them in cooking pots of boiling water alive.

Yeh, slaughter is horrible here in the US also, but what goes on in China and several other asian countries is so horrific its impossible to comprehend how so many humans are even capable of being so sadistic with zero compassion for the pain and suffering they are causing.
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No hate henchui, I have many asian friends, even Chinese friends. I know its only a small percentage of the population that does that, but the only way to help stop it is to keep creating awareness.
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hmmm...i guess someone hasn't watch the Animal Planet Channel...
we dont cram them...they usually die of animal cruelty.
like the ones that were all shot in New Orleans....they just die and decompose right there....
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No, the same thing doesn't happen here Smokey. We do not cram dogs and cats into cages like that.

They don't even slaughter them. They torture them to death because they believe the more pain you give the animal the more tender the meat.

They usually just stab the dogs and cats while they are suspended, or will just hang them slowly, jab them repeatedly with electo shock devices till they die, skin them alive, beat them to death with baseball bats, and worst of all just throw them in cooking pots of boiling water alive.

*** I agreed... that is indeed fucking unacceptable....not sure if you have seen how some people in the Northern America skin a rabbit alive

Yeh, slaughter is horrible here in the US also, but what goes on in China and several other asian countries is so horrific its impossible to comprehend how so many humans are even capable of being so sadistic with zero compassion for the pain and suffering they are causing.
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Old 12-04-2005, 09:38 PM   #37
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hmmm...i guess someone hasn't watch the Animal Planet Channel...
we dont cram them...they usually die of animal cruelty.
like the ones that were all shot in New Orleans....they just die and decompose right there....
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Not even a close or logical comparison.

Not saying shit doesn't happen here too. If you've read my animal related posts I always say the US medical and military industrial complex in the US subjects many lab animals to extremely horrific experiments, but the numbers are still way smaller than those in China.
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fuck all dem chinks lets nuke chinuh an take bak teh oil! Lets get africu too its right above chinuh right?
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Those pics are disturbing but not shocking.Those people rip off the scalps of live monkeys and eat their brains..
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Those pics are disturbing but not shocking.Those people rip off the scalps of live monkeys and eat their brains..
Actually the working conditions and wages in asian factories are deplorable also, but that's why so much of the worlds goods are Made In China. So the animals aren't the only ones being abused.
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poor china, they must do something about it.
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