GTS, why do you have a 3 months minimum when buying submit passes... - GoFuckYourself.com

mn · 12-05-2005, 03:07 PM

... seriously? I think I have read you have 90% retention somewhere (I might be wrong?), so I can't understand the reason. Whats the reson?

FreeHugeMovies · 12-05-2005, 03:09 PM

To improve their bottom line of course. It lessons the work load. I think it's smart on their side. I don't think GTS is hurting for selling PAs =]

mn · 12-05-2005, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

To improve their bottom line of course. It lessons the work load. I think it's smart on their side. I don't think GTS is hurting for selling PAs =]

OK! Thanks for the answer!

kaori · 12-05-2005, 03:11 PM

heh, yeah, it's too bad

I'm moving in a month and a half, and was just looking at buying a few submit passes for the next month

now I gotta wait about 3 months to make it worth my while..

karlm · 12-05-2005, 03:12 PM

Shame as you cant test them just for a month

BlackCrayon · 12-05-2005, 03:24 PM

its smart on their side sure, not good for testing it out tho and they know that.

tranza · 12-05-2005, 03:27 PM

Also because traffic may take a while to build up, so if you evaluate for 3 months you get a better idea.

69pornlinks · 12-05-2005, 05:53 PM

they same reason some host have you to sign contracts

xclusive · 12-05-2005, 05:56 PM

Just smart business they have a uniqe product and they know how to make the most of it

abshard · 12-05-2005, 05:57 PM

You can buy a monthly recurring submit pass's with a credit card. Unless someting changed and they no longer accept credit cards?

phogirl69 · 12-05-2005, 05:57 PM

When I bought my passes a while ago it was through myvirtualcard and those are still rebilling from month to month, but I noticed when I try and buy new passes you have to go for at least 3 months or commit to a term. Also the
myvirtualcard pages for submitpasses are down for maintenance.

I honestly much prefer going month to month....

Rice_Master · 12-05-2005, 05:58 PM

That is probably the main reason why I haven't bought any passes, if they believe in the product they're selling, why the minimum of 3 months? doesn't make sense.

Dirty F · 12-05-2005, 05:58 PM

I will pick some up as soon as i can buy them for a month with epass.

phogirl69 · 12-05-2005, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by abshard

You can buy a monthly recurring submit pass's with a credit card. Unless someting changed and they no longer accept credit cards?

No matter if you pay by Epassporte or Merchant Account or wire it says
you MUST choose a term either 3 months, 6 months or 12 months. The option to pay for new accounts through myvirtualcard no longer works...

abshard · 12-05-2005, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by phogirl69

No matter if you pay by Epassporte or Merchant Account or wire it says
you MUST choose a term either 3 months, 6 months or 12 months. The option to pay for new accounts through myvirtualcard no longer works...

Ahh i see that now. But to be honest im kinda glad the cc option is no longer working..heres why

I have maybe got at most 10% of my submit pass accounts paying with that monthly recurring option and 20% of those orders have been cheaters, and most likely they have used fake/stolen credit cards. I think the cheaters are less likely to use epassporte to buy an account if they lose their money if caught cheating. With the cc option they dont lose anything if they use a fake card.

And the cheaters im talking about are the ones that submit a nice clean gallery then after its listed, the first click to the gallery is either a popup hell or fake movie gallery where the surfer is required to d/l a "codec" to view the movie because the video is black and all you hear is the sound which is most likely a dialer. then the second click to the gallery, it returns to a normal gallery.

wedouglas · 12-05-2005, 06:15 PM

Sooner or later it will be 1 month. Then I'll spend a lot more.

BlackCrayon · 12-05-2005, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 69pornlinks

they same reason some host have you to sign contracts

are there any hosts who still do that? most places are month to month these days.

Brad Mitchell · 12-05-2005, 07:26 PM

I think the easy answer is because they can. Because, really, that attracts more qualified customers and giving excellent support is important to them.

Brad

BlackCrayon · 12-05-2005, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell

I think the easy answer is because they can. Because, really, that attracts more qualified customers and giving excellent support is important to them.

Brad

it kinda reminds me when networksolutions was the only domain registar, you had no other choice if you wanted a domain. just like you have no other choice if you want to be listed on the sites that sell through them.

Brad Mitchell · 12-05-2005, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

it kinda reminds me when networksolutions was the only domain registar, you had no other choice if you wanted a domain. just like you have no other choice if you want to be listed on the sites that sell through them.

I wouldn't be that harsh on it. Some of us do some things with our business that are unusual. Like with my hosting company, for example, I actually insist on talking to every client before they become a client. When I used to own SinTalk, I used to pre-screen all of the new affiliates prior to assigning them phone sex lines. Raising the barrier to entry just a little bit means that they don't get so many ass-hats jumbling up their time so they can spend more time with their established customers. Plus, I have to imagine that there is a reasonable argument to be made about the results after comitting to a longer period instead of a shorter one.

Just my

At the end of the day, I just think the folks at GTS are good people

Brad

AmateurFlix · 12-05-2005, 08:00 PM

probably for the same reason that almost everyone else selling memberships tries to lengthen the time between between rebills... customers will have a chance to cancel something every 30 days or every 90 days, so why give them the first option?

UniqueMovies · 12-05-2005, 08:19 PM

They have a huge monopoly in this part of the business and they are exploiting it. The only way to make things right is more competition.

GTS Mark · 12-06-2005, 06:17 AM

Hi guys, the reason we are doing only 3 month memberships is due to the fact we are having issues with our primary merchant account MVC, not because we are trying to make things difficult on you.

I'm sorry for the inconvenience, if anyone wants a one month pass please send me over an e-mail and I will try my best to accomodate you. I like to listen to what my customers want and obviously the one month account is a very popular item.

Thanks,
DH

GTS Mark · 12-06-2005, 06:17 AM

Brad, thanks for sticking up for us

DH

GTS Mark · 12-06-2005, 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UniqueMovies

They have a huge monopoly in this part of the business and they are exploiting it. The only way to make things right is more competition.

Uniquemovies, we are not trying to exploit anything, we're just a company trying to do business and keep our customers happy as best as we can. There are plenty of options out there to buy traffic from different sources and partner accounts.

I simply don't appreciate this kind of comment.

DH

Nicky · 12-06-2005, 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franck

I will pick some up as soon as i can buy them for a month with epass.

Same here, 3 months is just too long time in this biz

Satisfaction · 12-06-2005, 08:01 AM

yeh 3 months is over the top i think..

12-05-2005, 03:07 PM	#1
mn Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,505	GTS, why do you have a 3 months minimum when buying submit passes... ... seriously? I think I have read you have 90% retention somewhere (I might be wrong?), so I can't understand the reason. Whats the reson?

12-05-2005, 03:12 PM	#5
karlm Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: UK Posts: 4,194	Shame as you cant test them just for a month __________________ ICQ 584665926

12-05-2005, 03:24 PM	#6
BlackCrayon Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,631	its smart on their side sure, not good for testing it out tho and they know that. __________________ you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

12-05-2005, 03:27 PM	#7
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	Also because traffic may take a while to build up, so if you evaluate for 3 months you get a better idea. __________________ I'm just a newbie.

12-05-2005, 05:53 PM	#8
69pornlinks Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Heranus Posts: 5,560	they same reason some host have you to sign contracts __________________ It IS what it IS

12-05-2005, 03:09 PM	#2
FreeHugeMovies Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 14,137	To improve their bottom line of course. It lessons the work load. I think it's smart on their side. I don't think GTS is hurting for selling PAs =]

12-05-2005, 03:11 PM	#4
kaori Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,569	heh, yeah, it's too bad I'm moving in a month and a half, and was just looking at buying a few submit passes for the next month now I gotta wait about 3 months to make it worth my while..

12-05-2005, 05:56 PM	#9
xclusive Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 35,218	Just smart business they have a uniqe product and they know how to make the most of it __________________ I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /

12-05-2005, 05:57 PM	#10
abshard Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: AZ Posts: 6,373	You can buy a monthly recurring submit pass's with a credit card. Unless someting changed and they no longer accept credit cards?

12-05-2005, 05:57 PM	#11
phogirl69 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,330	When I bought my passes a while ago it was through myvirtualcard and those are still rebilling from month to month, but I noticed when I try and buy new passes you have to go for at least 3 months or commit to a term. Also the myvirtualcard pages for submitpasses are down for maintenance. I honestly much prefer going month to month....

12-05-2005, 05:58 PM	#12
Rice_Master Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 1,582	That is probably the main reason why I haven't bought any passes, if they believe in the product they're selling, why the minimum of 3 months? doesn't make sense. __________________ Icq: 31706665

12-05-2005, 05:58 PM	#13
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	I will pick some up as soon as i can buy them for a month with epass.

12-05-2005, 06:15 PM	#16
wedouglas So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Dearborn, MI Posts: 5,921	Sooner or later it will be 1 month. Then I'll spend a lot more.

12-05-2005, 07:26 PM	#18
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,812	I think the easy answer is because they can. Because, really, that attracts more qualified customers and giving excellent support is important to them. Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

12-05-2005, 08:00 PM	#21
AmateurFlix Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 7,762	probably for the same reason that almost everyone else selling memberships tries to lengthen the time between between rebills... customers will have a chance to cancel something every 30 days or every 90 days, so why give them the first option? __________________

12-05-2005, 08:19 PM	#22
UniqueMovies Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,691	They have a huge monopoly in this part of the business and they are exploiting it. The only way to make things right is more competition.

12-06-2005, 06:17 AM	#23
GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	Hi guys, the reason we are doing only 3 month memberships is due to the fact we are having issues with our primary merchant account MVC, not because we are trying to make things difficult on you. I'm sorry for the inconvenience, if anyone wants a one month pass please send me over an e-mail and I will try my best to accomodate you. I like to listen to what my customers want and obviously the one month account is a very popular item. Thanks, DH

12-06-2005, 06:17 AM	#24
GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	Brad, thanks for sticking up for us DH

12-06-2005, 08:01 AM	#27
Satisfaction WootWootCash.com Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 10,900	yeh 3 months is over the top i think..