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Old 12-14-2005, 11:30 AM   #51
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In case you didn't know, there were trials at Nuremberg where Nazi war criminals who committed these atrocities never denied they happened. Their only defense was that they were following orders.

At Nuremburg the Germans were accused of killing the Polish officers at Katyn. Now everyone admits it was the Russians. So if the prosecution lied about that then what else did they lie about?

Nurmberg was one of the most shameful show trials in history.

Evidence that Germans shot lightning bolts out of their assholes to torment Jews would not have been questioned.
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Old 12-14-2005, 11:32 AM   #52
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How come jews never provided any evidence about holocaust tales?

Why dont you take your self down to Miami beach to the memorial, and ask for the guy who runs the place. He can show you the BRANDED numbers in his arm that the germans gave him, and a few nice scars that Dr. Death was kind enough to give him.

On top of that, my father was there the day that Aushwitz( not sure about the spelling ) was found.


Oh, and you are a fucking moron.
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Not too many copies of Photoshop available back in the 40's i'd imagine...













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Old 12-14-2005, 11:34 AM   #54
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I'm not saying it's not enough. I;m saying the holocause never happened.

Why did nazis kill so many commies, gypsies, homos, teachers, priests who were not jewish? Why dilute this grand holocaust with gentile blood?
Fucking idiot.

There were more than ten million people who died during the Holocaust, six million of which were Jews or had some percentage of Jewish blood.

Fucking idiot.

And, now I have to feel badly because I just broke my own promise to never post in these fucking idiot threads.
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Old 12-14-2005, 11:34 AM   #55
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The witnesses are not unanimous. Some witnesses didn't say anything about gas chambers.

FYI, 20 million russians also died during WWII. But they are not screaming Holocaust!


The holocaust has been used to:
a. shielf israel and jews from criticism
b. by zionists to scare more jews into immigrating to israel.

The holohoax is the reason Israel exists. Period.
How was last night's Klan meeting?
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Old 12-14-2005, 11:36 AM   #56
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Why dont you take your self down to Miami beach to the memorial, and ask for the guy who runs the place. He can show you the BRANDED numbers in his arm that the germans gave him, and a few nice scars that Dr. Death was kind enough to give him.
And how does this prove that Holocaust happened?
Of course there were labor camps, dipshit.


NickPapageorgio: yes, terrible pics, but they don't prove much. millions or russians also died in prison camps.
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Old 12-14-2005, 11:36 AM   #57
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What a fucking asshole. Get a clue.

My best friends grandfather was there. He was lined up in a line with a few hundred jews. They were being executed just because. Right when they started to fire, a bunch of them ran for it. Out of a hundred or so people, only 5 got away. The rest were shot dead for no reason. Just one of many examples.
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Old 12-14-2005, 11:38 AM   #58
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There were more than ten million people who died during the Holocaust, six million of which were Jews or had some percentage of Jewish blood.
How do you know? Because jewish media said so?
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I hate to "somewhat" agree , but camrabbit has a point ( although he has twisted it a tad )

One thing almost EVERY person who has studied the historical data that we have can agree is THERE WASNT SIX MILLION JEWS KILLED. You can spin it any way you want and call me an anti-semite but its the truth.

Another thing almost EVERY person who has studied the data can agree is THE NAZIS KILLED MILLIONS OF JEWS in horrible horrible ways.

Does it really matter if they killed 2 million or 6 million ? or if they gassed them, starved them or strangled them ? not really , the nazi's ( for the most part ) were sick freaks bent on exterminating jews.. period...

The holocaust is high on the LONG list of human atrocoties.

The only reason the "body count" ever mattered was re-patriation.
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Old 12-14-2005, 11:40 AM   #60
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Not too many copies of Photoshop available back in the 40's i'd imagine...

[pics]

Most died from starvation & disease, which was caused when supply lines were cut off by allied bombings.
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Old 12-14-2005, 11:41 AM   #61
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Fuck you you dumb fuck. I wonder if Colo knows you are flying thier banner on this anti-semetic bullshit. If they dont then they will soon. If you are associated with them then they will be losing a lot of business in the next few days.

Notice, no more banner.

I predict a short Internet life for this clown.
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Old 12-14-2005, 11:42 AM   #62
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Why you anybody listen to an idiot who can't even upload a button to the server.


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Old 12-14-2005, 11:43 AM   #63
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One thing almost EVERY person who has studied the historical data that we have can agree is THERE WASNT SIX MILLION JEWS KILLED. You can spin it any way you want and call me an anti-semite but its the truth.

Circular argument, anyone who says it didn't happen is branded a racist.

But there is one french guy fyi, who was a left wing communist who saved jews during the war that doesn't believe the holoucast happened.
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Old 12-14-2005, 11:45 AM   #64
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Old 12-14-2005, 11:45 AM   #65
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I just spoke with the owner of colo-cation.com on ICQ who assured me that this idiot is not affilated with company in any way. It is apparently someone who is trying to make colo look bad. For the record I know lots of people who have nothing but great things to say about colo which is why I was so surprised by this thread. Someone should ban this idiot troll.
probably he's just a scammer , trying "to sell few dedicates on gfy" , oh well , then he needs the drama !

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I hate to "somewhat" agree , but camrabbit has a point ( although he has twisted it a tad )

One thing almost EVERY person who has studied the historical data that we have can agree is THERE WASNT SIX MILLION JEWS KILLED. You can spin it any way you want and call me an anti-semite but its the truth.

Another thing almost EVERY person who has studied the data can agree is THE NAZIS KILLED MILLIONS OF JEWS in horrible horrible ways.

Does it really matter if they killed 2 million or 6 million ? or if they gassed them, starved them or strangled them ? not really , the nazi's ( for the most part ) were sick freaks bent on exterminating jews.. period...

The holocaust is high on the LONG list of human atrocoties.

The only reason the "body count" ever mattered was re-patriation.
TheKing,

One of my best friends, born and bred in Germany, quoted me a higher number, 9 million. Either way, 1 million, half a million 22 million, it doesn't matter, it happened.

Great post btw, as usual.
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One of my best friends, born and bred in Germany, quoted me a higher number, 9 million. Either way, 1 million, half a million 22 million, it doesn't matter, it happened.

Great post btw, as usual.

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try a positive approach:

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Show me a Nazi homicidal gas chamber that wasn't rebuilt after the war. Guess what. There are none.

The Nazis kept meticulous records. But there are no blueprints or documents regarding mass gassings of Jews.

The only standing structure that is claimed to be a homicidal gas chamber is the one at Auschwitz. And that one was rebuilt after the war for tourists. They added a chimney and put holes in the ceiling to make it look like a gas chamber. WWII aerial photographs show those features didn't exist on that building during the war.

Forensic tests have also been done on the walls of the supposed homicidal gas chamber. No traces of Zyklon-B were found. Ever. The delousing stations used to delouse clothing show plenty of Zyklon-B. But the supposed homicidal gas chamber at Auschwitz shows none.

And here are the Dachau ovens, where millions of jews were supposed to be gassed :rolleyes:
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Circular argument, anyone who says it didn't happen is branded a racist.

But there is one french guy fyi, who was a left wing communist who saved jews during the war that doesn't believe the holoucast happened.
How can one state that it didnt happen?
Did people jus make it all up? What is your definition of Holocaust?

Here is websters;
hol·o·caust
1 Great destruction resulting in the extensive loss of life, especially by fire.

2 Holocaust; The genocide of European Jews and others by the Nazis during World War II: ?Israel emerged from the Holocaust and is defined in relation to that catastrophe? (Emanuel Litvinoff).

3 A massive slaughter: ?an important document in the so-far sketchy annals of the Cambodian holocaust? (Rod Nordland).


Now here is what you need to ask yourself to determine if it did happen.

Was there great destruction resulting in the extensive loss of life?
Yes, don't matter if it was 10 thousand or 100 thousand or 1 million, it fucking happened!!

The next question. Was Nazi Germany commiting Genocide? Yes, therefore, it fucking happened

Last question. Was there a massive slaughter? Yes, so it fucking happened.

Now, you can either be completely fucking stupid & continue in this manner & make it so that I have to post the proper definitions of destruction, extensive, genocide, massive & slaughter, OR, you will admit that it DID fucking happen, make your apologies like a man, then leave this board like a dog with your tail between your legs.
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Contrary to what other's think, I sometimes find his posts refreshing.

Sure, some I dont' agree on, but that still doesn't detract that he does a good job of expressing his side.
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One of my best friends, born and bred in Germany, quoted me a higher number, 9 million. Either way, 1 million, half a million 22 million, it doesn't matter, it happened.
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exactly. anyone who cant agree "something" terrible took place that cost the lives of millions of jews is either stupid or blind.

But does it mean we should pay israel millions of dollars ? NO
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Shit, sorry, baddog caught me on it.

It was Smokey's post, not the kings. My bad.
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How can one state that it didnt happen?
Did people jus make it all up?
How can you state it [b]did[/b[ happen?

Jews hyped it up to get Israel land.
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Horse shit propoganda. Come visit the Holocaust Memorial here in Farmington Hills, Michigan or the Jewish Community Center in West Bloomfield if you have the balls.

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The guy does have a point about everyone screaming ANTI-SEMITEEE NAZI PIECE OF SHIT!@#@#!!!! as soon as anyone questions anything about the jews. Why don't you PROVE him wrong instead? Anyone who flamed him without posting proof is more retarded than he is. Christ, are people not allowed to have their own viewpoint? You're the fucking jewish nazis for trying to silence anyone with opinion different than yours.

Now, 4 of my grandparents were survivors of WW2. One of my grandmothers who was not jewish went to a concentration camp where she thankfully survived.

FACT: Everyone who was not german was treated like shit by nazis during WW2.

It is also true that jews were more disliked by nazis than any other people. For example, in Kyiv (Ukraine) the jews were ordered to take their belongings and go to a trainstation, where they had their belongings confiscated, and were subsequently shot. They still have mass graves in Kyiv from that time.

I don't agree with the original poster of the thread, but WHY IS HOLOCAUST SUCH A FUCKING TABOO where one can't even question it? What's wrong with questioning it? We're not living in nazi germany where people only had to have one opinion.
Camrabbit wasn't questioning it - he was stating his opinion as troll-like, indisputable fact. The topic head illustrates this:

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The holocaust is a myth. No gas chambers. Nazis didn't kill 6 million Jews
That's not the way someone who's interested in starting a meaningful and well-intentioned discussion would start things off.

Based on other posts I've unfortunately read from CamRabbit here on the forum, the flames for his initial post are well-deserved. Its an insult to the collective native intelligence of everyone.
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Cam your a fucking moron bro.

Being Jewish myself and plenty others here your a pure scumbag

May god have mercy on your pathetic soul.
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omg this thread is full of crap

i have been to ausschwitz
i have been to dachau

go there and then judge again
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Horse shit propoganda. Come visit the Holocaust Memorial here in Farmington Hills, Michigan or the Jewish Community Center in West Bloomfield if you have the balls.

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Brad this guy is a douche , nothing but hate from him from different angles in evry post
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Show me a Nazi homicidal gas chamber that wasn't rebuilt after the war. Guess what. There are none.
Now STFU..

http://www1.yadvashem.org/exhibition...otographs.html

Aerial photographs of Auschwitz taken by the Allied Air Forces during World War II were first exposed in 1978 by Dino Brugioni and Robert Poirer, two aerial photo- analysts who worked for the CIA. Using historical research material, they re-analyzed aerial photographs housed in the Defense Intelligence Agency Archives in Washington. Yad Vashem was able to acquire copies of some of these photographs in 1980 with Elie Wiesel?s help, and when former US president Carter visited Israel in that same year, he brought copies of the original film reels. The Allied Air Forces came to the Auschwitz area because of the important war industry located in this region of Upper Silesia (Polish territory which was annexed to the Third Reich in 1939). In early 1944, there were intelligence reports of a giant fuel and artificial rubber factory in Monowitz. On April 4th, 1944, a Mosquito plane from 60 Photo Recon Squadron of the South African Air Force flew out of Foggia base in Southern Italy to photograph the factory. It was the IG Farben factory at Monowitz, only 4km from Birkenau. In order to ensure complete coverage of the target, it was common practice to start the camera rolling ahead of time, and stop it slightly over time. As a result, the Auschwitz camp was photographed for the first time. During that same period, the Allies had commenced planning a comprehensive attack on the German fuel industry, and the Monowitz factory was high up on the list of targets. On May 31st, a second plane from 60 Squadron was sent to the area. This time, it also took three photographs of Birkenau from an altitude of 26,000ft, although the photo-analysts did not identify the camp. The photographs from this sortie show us the camp as it looked 3 days after the arrival of the deportation documented in the Auschwitz Album.

For various operational reasons, the bombing of the Monowitz factory was delayed but the Allied air forces continued to gather intelligence information about this factory and other installations in the area. The South African Mosquito planes photographed the factory and parts of the camp complex on June 26th, August 25th and September 8th.

Meanwhile, the US Army Air force also started carrying out sorties in the area. The first American sortie to the Auschwitz area was carried out on July 8th by an F-5 Lightning plane from the 5th Photographic Reconnaissance Group of the 15th US Air force, operating from Bari. The information gathered in this sortie and in the British sorties, was used to plan the first bombing mission of the Monowitz factory on August 20th, in which the factory was damaged, but was not destroyed. The second bombing mission was carried out on September 13th, and the photographs taken during the bombing by B-24 bombers of the 464th Bombardment Group include a photograph showing bombs being dropped over Birkenau. Afterwards, further sorties were carried out to estimate the damage, and the Germans? progress with its repair. The 5th Photographic Reconnaissance Group?s Lightning planes also flew over the Auschwitz area on November 29th, December 21st, and finally on January 14th, 1945 ? only two weeks before the liberation of the camp by the Soviet Army.

It should be noted that the photo analysts never realized the significance of Birkenau, although Camp III, which was next to the IG Farben factory was identified as a concentration camp.







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Cam your a fucking moron bro.

Being Jewish myself and plenty others here your a pure scumbag

May god have mercy on your pathetic soul.
I'm a scumbag because I quesion the events of WWII ?

There should be debate on every historical event. Whatever people say is colored by their own prejudices (I'm reminded of a recent biography of Mao, which makes all sorts of wild claims, but still backed up by documentary research of some sort of other). To claim something is 'the Truth' - not that you're seeking the truth, but that it is 'the Truth' - is audacity of the highest order.
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Horse shit propoganda. Come visit the Holocaust Memorial here in Farmington Hills, Michigan or the Jewish Community Center in West Bloomfield if you have the balls.

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Thats not going to prove 6 million jews were killed nor will it prove there was gas chambers..

Your not going to get anywhere arguing with him about it , because he obviously believes little of the facts..

The plain and simple fact is , making up a story about gas chambers would make absolutely no sense.

Inflating the numbers for more $$$ does make sense..

Thats the only "misinformation" i feel was/is spread about the holocaust
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I'm a scumbag because I quesion the events of WWII ?

There should be debate on every historical event. Whatever people say is colored by their own prejudices (I'm reminded of a recent biography of Mao, which makes all sorts of wild claims, but still backed up by documentary research of some sort of other). To claim something is 'the Truth' - not that you're seeking the truth, but that it is 'the Truth' - is audacity of the highest order.

you are either trying to get mad views in which you succeeded or you are just a flat out moron by your statements. I think the latter....
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These photos prove nothing. Show me a film of someone being gassed at Auschwitz. Guess what. THERE ARE NO FILMS OF ANYONE BEING GASSED AT AUSCHWITZ. NONE.

The most probable Truth about the Holocaust...

1.) Hitler had prison work camps, just as Stalin did.

2.) Many facts about these camps have been exaggerated. For example, the once common stories about "soap made from the fat of Jews" and "lampshades made from human skin" have been abandoned as Urban Legends, or outright lies.

3.) The purpose of the camps was primarily work, not genocide. Large death counts were the result due to the work. People who could not work were also killed.

4.) People other than jews were heavily persecuted. Gypsies, Slavs, homosexuals, and even Catholic priests wound up in the camps. Jews were predominant because a.) there were more of them living in occupied territories, b.) they were associated with communism, and c.) they were the Yuppies of the 1930s.

5.) The 6 million death count is probably an exaggeration. It is probably closer to 3 million.

6.) Over 50 million people died in world war 2. An additional 20 million died under Stalin, and an estimated 30 years died shortly after WW2 under Mao. And, about 5 million died in Africa (disease and business as usual). For some reason, during this horrifically bloody period, the plight of the jews is expected to be viewed as particularly tragic.

7.) There is absolutely no reason why there should be Holocaust museums in places like Virginia and Texas (but there are). It would be like expecting Isreal to erect monuments to the Alamo and Bull Run.

Flame away if you like. But those are the facts
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Old 12-14-2005, 12:09 PM   #86
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you are either trying to get mad views in which you succeeded or you are just a flat out moron by your statements. I think the latter....
As usual none of the Holohoax supporters even attemted to refute my claims. Just screech screech until the topic dies.
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Old 12-14-2005, 12:09 PM   #87
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I'm a scumbag because I quesion the events of WWII ?

There should be debate on every historical event. Whatever people say is colored by their own prejudices (I'm reminded of a recent biography of Mao, which makes all sorts of wild claims, but still backed up by documentary research of some sort of other). To claim something is 'the Truth' - not that you're seeking the truth, but that it is 'the Truth' - is audacity of the highest order.
No, you're a fucking scumbag because you follow the neo nazi school of thought "the holocaust never happened".
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Old 12-14-2005, 12:11 PM   #88
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what a moronic thread.

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the nazi/jew trolling while it may bring hits, is not profitable. it stirs u too much hate and negative feelings

try a positive approach:

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I'm a scumbag because I quesion the events of WWII ?
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You didn't "question" the events, you posted your "opinion" as FACTS.

and i quote "the holocaust is a myth",

well its pretty clear regardless of your slanted view that a holocaust DID take place, so your wrong , and dont wonder why people call you a scumbag..
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Did someone rentatroll?
Trolling with a purpose to appear as a troll?

Moron...

Questioning something doesn't make you criminal. Jews should welcome holocaust investigations. Instead they display this fake outrage - "HOW DARE YOU!!!11"
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Some of us believe in free speech.

Obviously you don't.
you calling me a nazi?

my post was sarcastic. all you need to do to prove the point is bring up the fact the Auschwitz memorial plaque has been changed and the numbers reduced on it.

anyone who knows history in general knows numbers are always exxagerated, and this can easily be shown by the plaque being changed from 4 million to "about 1.5 million"

but i dont get wrapped up in the hate trolling. it gives me a headache.
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You didn't "question" the events, you posted your "opinion" as FACTS.

and i quote "the holocaust is a myth",

well its pretty clear regardless of your slanted view that a holocaust DID take place, so your wrong , and dont wonder why people call you a scumbag..
What about people who state it as a fact that holocaus did happen?
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anyone who knows history in general knows numbers are always exxagerated, and this can easily be shown by the plaque being changed from 4 million to "about 1.5 million"

Yet one more reason to question the "facts".

Anyone time someone attempts to ask questions about the holocaust they are met with threats and ad hom attacks.

Why is that?

What are you trying to hide?
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you are either trying to get mad views in which you succeeded or you are just a flat out moron by your statements. I think the latter....

Mad views for what his ignorance, He's taken down his sig.
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"4 million" plaque in 1948



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These photos prove nothing. Show me a film of someone being gassed at Auschwitz. Guess what. THERE ARE NO FILMS OF ANYONE BEING GASSED AT AUSCHWITZ. NONE.

The most probable Truth about the Holocaust...

1.) Hitler had prison work camps, just as Stalin did.

2.) Many facts about these camps have been exaggerated. For example, the once common stories about "soap made from the fat of Jews" and "lampshades made from human skin" have been abandoned as Urban Legends, or outright lies.

3.) The purpose of the camps was primarily work, not genocide. Large death counts were the result due to the work. People who could not work were also killed.

4.) People other than jews were heavily persecuted. Gypsies, Slavs, homosexuals, and even Catholic priests wound up in the camps. Jews were predominant because a.) there were more of them living in occupied territories, b.) they were associated with communism, and c.) they were the Yuppies of the 1930s.

5.) The 6 million death count is probably an exaggeration. It is probably closer to 3 million.

6.) Over 50 million people died in world war 2. An additional 20 million died under Stalin, and an estimated 30 years died shortly after WW2 under Mao. And, about 5 million died in Africa (disease and business as usual). For some reason, during this horrifically bloody period, the plight of the jews is expected to be viewed as particularly tragic.

7.) There is absolutely no reason why there should be Holocaust museums in places like Virginia and Texas (but there are). It would be like expecting Isreal to erect monuments to the Alamo and Bull Run.

Flame away if you like. But those are the facts




What exactly are you trying to prove? Who are you talking too?

Even if some of the stats or certain situations were exagerated, the very least that they (Nazis) deserve is to be known as one of the sickest group of animals to ever exist on earth.

You are a disgrace to all the innocent people and small children that suffered during that time. I hope you rot in hell just for implying that the Nazi's don't deserve every disgusting claim ever made towards them.
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I went to Aushwitz and I went to Birkenou, the shit you see there is no fucking joke, the numbers may be a little off, but when you see the scrapes on the walls in the chambers from people trying to do anything they possibly can to get the fuck out, it really hit you, hard. These people were starved, tortured, experimented on, and systematically killed, not only jews but a whole bunch of other ethnicity's as well. So maybe no one will ever know what the REAL numbers are, but does that even really matter, just take a look at the whole situation, as a whole, this shit happened, and god forbid it ever happen again.....
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