SomeCreep

100 ibills

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Claude

Webmeister is a troll, he will say anything to get you pissed off. He swings back and forth between being pro-ibill and anti-ibill. Look up some of his first posts, initailly he was against Ibill suddenly he was pro-Ibill. Whatever makes you reply to his posts, he will say it. Good thing is that he keeps bumping the Ibill threads

Mr.Right - Banned For Life

Why do people continue to use them if they are known to not pay, i never understand that, they come here and bitch and moan about it, why dont you just stop using them.

Booger

No Respomse from Andrew@I-Bull on his bullshit post full of lies

DEA - banned for life

Just wait until March when everyone who signed one of there Note Payables contracts get Fucked !

andrewatibill

I do not reply to posts on GFY on a regular basis. If you want a reply you will need to send me an email ([email protected])

MickeyG

and wtf is with all these chargebacks over the last few months.

Webby

Understand Andrew! Thanks for the full explanation of the staffing arrangements.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...=1#post8914684

It's just the more relevant concerns that obviously need your attention. Boring details like creditor payments, broken agreements and email selectively ingored.

Nevermind... we can't all be perfect.



PS.. Wonder how Rodrigo is these days?

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Booger

Funny how you posts lies in this thread about IBILL being up to date with current payments when you know the reserves arent getting paid and the bi-monthly check payments are falling behind. Then when confronted with this you say you dont respond heer and then post your email address.
Andrew your post dont matter ,Your replies dont matter your a low level employee thats being used by IBILL, you know what your told and thats it .Even worse you say what your told to say

How long were you selling Kirby Vacuum cleaners door to door before you came across the IBILL offices?

precise

That was just another lie, Mr. Andrew F. Smith.
You only reply to emails to trick people into the scam settlement agreement.
You NEVER reply once the agreement is signed, same as Ibill never pays.
We are in the processes of talking to attorney now.
Will see if we can press charges against you personally as well.

DEA - banned for life

Andrew, MArch 26th the day after IBILL is supposed to pay on there contracts is 3 months away.Do you think you can fit in some 'GFYresponse' time that day if we request it now?

SilentKnight

<snicker>

sigurman

Ibill should be out. They have NO credit.
Anyway, i keep receiving a few small wires from them...I am not even checking if the wire values are correct, since I lost my faith in Ibill a long time ago...

John69

I am waiting for this March Payment as well, should i hold my breath ?

CDSmith

The funny thing about this whole thing where they say you need to start processing with ibill in order to get paid is, well... aren't the rebills from your past sales making ibill money? Haven't those rebills been making them money all along (while you haven't been getting paid at all)...?

Whatever.

No one in their right mind should be going back to ibill for processing. This appears to be one of the grossest mismanagement situations I've ever seen in this business. Webmaster's money should be untouchable, and should be sent out to the webmaster first, on-time, every time, PERIOD. There never should have been a situation where there were owed funds like this.

Shameful. Let's see who stays afloat in 2006.

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DEA - banned for life

yeah hold your breath..and at the same time i suggest you wipe your ass with your Note Payables Contract ..its worth about as much as the air you breathe

SilentKnight

Bump for another Christmas Day ruined by iBill's gross mismanagement.

John69

Figured as much, i will have to try the lawyer route i guess.

webspider

Much better to have a good lawyer.

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scardog

Out By April.

webmeister

Webmasters have the option of being paid in Ibill stock in lieu of any back monies owed. This is a soliid investment. Ibill could well turn into the next Microsoft.

Check it out IBDI. Only 8 cents a share. If it goes up 2 cents you have made a nice 25 % profit.

webpower

IBILL CHEATERS BANK!!!!!!!


Go CCBILL.....!!

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imageman

I wonder why they chose March in their payout agreement ? Could it have something to do with Corporate tax records being due in March. My prediction for 2006 is that Ibill will be defaulting on more and more payments thereby maximizing the amount of money that can be stolen and come March they can liquidate Ibill or sell it for a fraction of its worth and walk away, taking with them all the outstanding money ?

One point that Iball's fails to mention is that the only people / companies that have been paid are those who have taken legal action against them. Im talking substantial amounts here not the odd $2-3000 .. SO before they go belly up in March if you are owed reasonable amounts of cash you have about 2 months to get your attorneys motivated or say good by forever..

DEA - banned for life

Are you telling me you know of companirs/people that collected there past due revenue by contacting a lawyer? I was under the impression that taking legal action would only further your problems with ibill by putting these funds into a "dispute" category. Also i havent seen People/Companies Post threads about how they took legal action and got paid.IF they have can you post the links i would like to see what they actually did and how much they got. Thanks

Webby

The *only* avenue to go with a debtor who either can't pay or choses to be selective in paying is a lawyer DEA. Yes, there are a number of webmasters who have gone the legal avenue and got specific agreements on payments and also have been paid. On some of these, of course, iBill failed to make payment - however, they will eventually pay otherwise the office furniture gets removed. It's their choice.

There is no "dispute" over funds both parties acknowledge are correct - it's a formality for a judgement.

BTW.. It's not wise to provide specifics on each case on GFY - it can screw the work lawyers are progressing with, but, yes, - there have been and still are a number of webmasters getting paid this way DEA. The sooner ya move on this the better - time is running out!

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andrewatibill

I never sold vacuum cleaners, but I always did like Kirby. We had one years ago with a saw attachment. Ideal for any housekeeper/carpenters don't you think?

brand0n

dont be cute. address the issues at hand
whats the deal with the payments?

dont feed us any bs. tell us the truth. alot rides on what you say around here, and now is defently not the time for you to take the smart ass roll.

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Sad the You & the Company you work for has lied and cheated there clients for over a year now and you come here with smartass comments.You can respond to obvious sarcastic statements but have no time to answer questions on missed payments,note payables and reserves.Laugh now Andrew but come march 25th if IBLL doesnt pay i suggest YOU change your Home address Fun is fun, Jokes are Jokes but fucking with peoples money let alone laughing about it can get you hurt.Capeche?

brand0n

daaaaaaammmnnnnnnnnn


andrew, how would you feel if you busted your ass at your current job, and at the end of the week they told you.. well.. um.. we dont have your money, but heres what we are going to do

2 weeks from thursday after next, we will give you 10% of what we owe you today. then! 2 weeks after the tuesday after that, well throw you another 20%

but listen. if you quit. then we arent paying you a fucking thing

and then have someone else in the company come up and tell you some smart ass jokes.

honestly drew buddy boy.. how the fuck would you feel?

and something else you might want to consider. you are indeed fucking with peoples livelyhoods. 3 things of any mans you shouldnt ever fuck with
his wife
his family
and his cash

in an odd sort of way, ibill is fucking with all 3 in one fatal swoop. now, you say how the fuck does this have to do with wifey. you dont think that there are plenty of pissed wifes who wanted more for xmas then what they got.

plenty of kids who where counting on dora power mobiles that didnt get them due to not have the $ they where counting on?

and ofcourse the last of the 3. the mans personal accounts.

and you come here with stupid fucking jokes?

dude.. another question and im done.

do you think dea is the only one who is going to want to have a nice long chat with you if/when the settlements dont go through?

for some reason i see caravans full of mob types heading south with screams of "andrew dies" being heard from the windows.

anyways.. take another bs joke and lets all have a laugh together

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Booger

or murderer People have gone missing over far less money than what ibill owes me.


BTW does your kirby have the woodchipper attachment? Mine does

Booger

Andrewatibill? Fugeddahboutit

John69

The owner of ibill needs to read this thread everyday for 10 years before he goes to bed, that would be a good start!

andrewatibill

If (and when) I have information to pass on regarding payments, etc. I do so. For the present I only know what I have been told by the management, and there is no new information (yet).

I was responding to a joke, with a joke. This has nothing to do with business. I understand how people have been frustrated by the issues with iBill, but all I can say is 3 things:

1) The problems are the RESULT of the former owners of the company. The current owners have TRIED (not very successfully so far, but still trying) to 'right the ship' and get everyone paid. It will NOT happen overnight, but we are still confident that it will happen eventually.

2) I don't make decisions regarding who gets paid and when. I try to pass on information as I get it, but I can't pass on information which I don't have, and I won't make up stuff and blow smoke up anyone's...

3) If you email me and do not receive a response, email me again. I ALWAYS respond to emails. If you have another Account Manager I will forward the email to that person. If THEY don't respond, get back to me and I will follow up on it. Do NOT expect an answer with any information in it (at this time) because we don't have any answers for you right now, but you WILL get a response. We aren't ignoring anyone, we simply don't have the answer to your questions. I know it might seem ridiculous to ask you all to be (more) patient, but that is the only thing we can do for now. Everyone here will be ecstatic when we can finally inform our clients that all payments have gone out. I just don't know when that will be.

PS: I never sold used cars either

andrewatibill

I will suggest it. I would also suggest it for the former owners (and management) of iBill who are now operating another payment processor. I cannot tell you what company, but there are many people here on GFY who seem to be pretty good at getting information, so I leave it up to them to post who they are and what company they are currently running.

Webby

Let's put it this way - if you were selling vacuum cleaners there are two distinct advantages.

(a) You'd have a real job.

(b) You'd only have to lie about the degree of suction.


That is obviously much nicer than making and breaking agreements, outright lying, participating in a mass con in an effort to support your crooked employers.

Just curious, did you ever have ethics and moral standards - or did they wash away at the prospect of employment at iBill?

Appreciate your post - hope you don't mind if I quote you, - it's so useful as an example of the general "aura". Thanks!

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Booger

You forgot to tell us how IBILL will have a booth at Internext for anyone whos interested in getting FUCKED IN THE ASS

You are Due some credit Andrew , before you came along IBILL fucked everyone with no lube whatsoever ! You my good man atleast has the decencey to grease up before mounting us in the brown eye

brand0n

What the fuck sense does that make?

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andrewatibill

It means that your email, or my response, may get misdirected, undelivered, or caught in a spam filter. The point is I do NOT throw away emails without a response. If I don't have an answer I try to get one. If I can't get one, I will respond to your email so you know it was received and that I will follow up with more information when I get it.

brand0n

ahaha

the old "spam filter got your email" tactic

gotcha

so the 100s of unawnsered emails got ate by the spam filter

im guessing thousands of dollars also got ate by this filter. might want to clean the filter guy.

might be just enuff for you to make a fast break outta town once the shit hits the fan

so, can i call you andy or drew?

im brandon incase you havent put that together on your own

tell me this <insert andy or drew here>

do you stick by what ibill is sayin as far as the future goes? the people who made the agreements are going to recive there payments as planned?

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Chaldoray

Andrew, you guys cannot pay webmasters? Ibill is using webmasters money to pay you a salary? What makes you think webmasters will ever use your useless company, they are not reputable anymore. Have a good one wasting your breath.

TheLegacy

are you totally oblivious as to the total damage your company has created? How many have lost homes etc. because of your bosses poor management style? You want us to beleive that it was the past management occupation that was to blame, yet the same techniques of not paying webmasters and advertising venues shows that not much has changed.

bounced checked, unpaid marketing contracts, misuse of funds all added to your and others in your organizations glib and snarky remarks to webmasters as though they are pawns and not to be taken seriously. IBill and yourself should be begging for forgiveness not making fun of comments or give lame excuses on missing emails.

Or do we simply have to realize that IBill and yourself are gasping its last breath - hoping to steal as much money as possible before the lawsuits come to their conclusion, then close down your shop saying to yourself, "if they are dumb enough to keep working with us after we fucked so many for so long, its their fault"

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Webby

None of it makes sense.

We got this asshole from iBill saying absolutely nothing - apart from email iBill 100 times and "I will respond to your email". You ever had a meaningful email from iBill on any subject???

He can't even keep to agreements he did make - so what's the point? There is not even the slightest attempt to explain the core content in this thread.

The lastest iBill troll is just that - sure ain't in any position to guarantee payments and statements like "Everyone here will be ecstatic when we can finally inform our clients that all payments have gone out" simply illustrate they live in lalaland. This troll has no clue whatsoever as to any real life scenario - it's just yet another of these "forward looking statements" that are part of the iBill and IBDI history.

Why is he here?? Hell knows. It's like communicating with a manatee carcass in Florida - least it had some charm when alive and did not try to fuck everyone around.

Anyone want to take a $10K bet that iBill never ever will pay it's creditors in full?? Na... don't do robberies

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andrewatibill

Our salaries are paid by revenue from current clients, who are being paid, just like any other processor. The money owed to webmasters is from the prior ownership, and none of that money is even here any more, so it certainly can't be used to pay our salaries. If you really want to know where your money is, ask the people who were running iBill last year when the payments stopped. THAT was your money and you never got it. MY salary is paid from revenue generated by CURRENT clients. Some of these clients never left iBill, some are new clients, and some are clients who came back to iBill and received settlement agreements which WERE paid.

Now, to be accurate, we have not been making payments on settlements for the last 2 months, but this is ONLY on settlements from LAST year. EVERY current client is receiving their payouts this year. We hope to have new payments for old settlements going out again soon, and we also hope to have additional funding for new settlements for other clients who are owed money. We will just have to wait and see.

Webby

Familiar pattern on the "losing homes" stuff!

The utter absurdity of iBill ever having fraud family members and their associates as "shareholders" in that company (and IBDI/Penthouse) is beyond a joke.

These are the same scum who defrauded hundreds of people out of their homes to the tune of around $400 mill - plus other "small misdemeanors", - and no doubts we shall be hearing even more shortly.

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Webby

Can you be quoted on this and you have evidence your salary is being paid out of "current clients"??

Just curious... why would the, as you term them, "current owners" of iBill take over a company that is, in effect, worth nothing??

Another question.... do any officers or shareholders of iBill have any participation, either as shareholders or officers in IBDI or Penthouse?

Enlighten! Who exactly are the the officers and shareholders of iBill that are known as the "new owners" of this defunct company?? Got a URL or list handy??

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Webby

Dammit! Gone quiet in this thread - especially when it comes to any facts.

You must be busy arranging settlements with iBill creditors and making sure they are being paid? Understand - thats what moving forward is all about.

Yo.. It's time for a revue and find out who today's officers and shareholders are - and all "associations" with other companies. I'll update you so you know as well!

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Booger

2 questions for you, maybe 3 depending on your answer:

1) Are reserves beign paid out for sales made 6 months ago with the gkard sytem?

2) Ibill made note payable contracts with numerous clients,will ibill pay on march 25th as promised by the "new owners" ?

IF the answers is NO to either of the questions see question 3

3)When Ibill promised last march to, make these back payments , not touch gkard funds <including reserves> and pay gkard on time through symetrexx they must have had some sort of plan or reasoning behind thinking they could do this.What has changed since march of last year for ibill to not be able to stick with there promises and contracts and and now start missing payments AGAIN?

Webby

Booger:

One question you may want to add is

Who exactly is gKard and who are the officers and shareholders behind this name and exactly what is the association between iBill and gKard and why was gKard formed and by whom?

Sheesh.. transparency and openness, even on public record data never was a strong point

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SilentKnight

Another question for Andrew:

Its been widely reported on various media sources that the bulk of the $30 million in webmaster revenues that had been withheld by First Data Corp. after the partnership dissolved back in Sept/'04 - has now been released to iBill.

Yet...it appears as though the bulk of webmasters who were owed money - have not yet been paid.

What is the unknown variable in this equation?

If the funds were supposedly released from First Data - where have they gone?

precise

This is just another bunch of LIES.

We are a CURRENT client conned into signing settlement agreement with Ibill and sending sales until recently.

1. Ibill has NOT been paying ANY gkard reserve money since Oct. 15 to CURRENT clients.

2. Ibill has not made ANY of non-gkard payouts in Dec. to CURRENT clients.

3. You personally have NEVER answered a single email after the settlement agreement was signed.