TGP - TGP2 what's the diff? - GoFuckYourself.com

marty · 04-04-2002, 04:26 AM

this probably makes my sound like an absolute drongo, but I realy don't know what you guys are talking about

please clue me in

MetaformX · 04-04-2002, 04:42 AM

TGP?
TGP2?
thats 0old news buddy. TGP3 is here now. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/showth...threadid=55657

im the inventor of it. cool, huh?

Naughty · 04-04-2002, 05:03 AM

The BIGGEST differenc eis that TGP2 only accepts galleries with max 5 pics, pics on HTML pages for more advertising possiblities.

More ads and less porn should make you more money.

The Chosen · 04-04-2002, 05:35 AM

They both doesn't make me any money

LoveAsianChicks · 04-04-2002, 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Naughty
The BIGGEST differenc eis that TGP2 only accepts galleries with max 5 pics, pics on HTML pages for more advertising possiblities.

More ads and less porn should make you more money.

Less bandwidth, more ads, less porn.
TGP2 had all the right ideas but failed in being able to send traffic to the galleries.
No one is going to bookmark or visit a TGP2 when there are TGP's.

It was a nice idea, but in reality it failed.
I have also heard from a number of people that conversions were no better, just cheaper bandwidth with less traffic from a TGP2.

Naughty · 04-04-2002, 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LoveAsianChicks

Less bandwidth, more ads, less porn.
TGP2 had all the right ideas but failed in being able to send traffic to the galleries.
No one is going to bookmark or visit a TGP2 when there are TGP's.

It was a nice idea, but in reality it failed.
I have also heard from a number of people that conversions were no better, just cheaper bandwidth with less traffic from a TGP2.

It hasn't failed, it is only 9 months since it started, it might need time, like anything else.
People are experiencing new things, trading with CJ2s, TGPs to see what it will mean for TGP2. Lots of newbees came to cash in on TGP2 and were disappointed after 6 weeks of not seeing those big checks. The same newbees will fail at TGP as well.

I got a ton of ICQs of ppl telling me they already tried it for so long (<8 weeks) and start something else. I do not mind to see them go, it takes more than 8 weeks of holding your hand for cash.

ADL Colin · 04-04-2002, 07:04 AM

Re: No one is going to bookmark or visit a TGP2 when there are TGP's.

Same percentage. Try it and then tell me if you think I'm wrong.

Re: "It was a nice idea, but in reality it failed. "

I guess making money counts as failure now?
Laughing all the way to the bank ... You count visitors. I'll count dollars. That's fine with me. Every week, TGP2 revenue continues to increase
for me.

Re: "I have also heard from a number of people that conversions were no better"

I have heard a lot of things from a lot of people.

9 months is a long time. TGP2 is still here. Let's see. I started my first CJ site in 1997. That seems like forever ago. Way back at the dawn of time.
Using this as a point of reference. already TGP2 has been around for 15% of that time. I agree with Naughty. There are webmasters that fail at TGP, TGP2, CJ, CJ2, AVS, SEs,, paysites. Hell, the news today is that Penthouse is in danger of going out of business. They laid off 26% of their workforce in February and is not generating enough revenue to make their interest payments this year.

I don't have time to worry about other people's
failures when I am working on my success.

Find what works for YOU.

XXXManager · 04-04-2002, 07:13 AM

You fools.... You got it ALL WRONG
TGP and TGP2 are like MPEG and MPEG2.
hence - TGP2 is more compressed.. The fact it has less free pics is just a "side-effect" of the technology.
The problem with TGP3 is that, like MPEG3 is only for sound - you will not be able to see TGP3 sites, but rather only hear them. That?s why they are destined to fail (unless the moaning is really good) so the upcoming demise of it is inevitable.
TGP4 on the other hand (used by hackers only after Microsoft had cancelled its use) AKA - "TGPivx;)" will be the next big think. Unfortunately you will need to install a plugin created my Project-Ketchup to view TGP4 sites.

Does that answers anybody's question?
Any other open end left?
Be happy to answer those as well...

XXXManager

baddog · 04-04-2002, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Naughty

It hasn't failed, it is only 9 months since it started, it might need time, like anything else.

Yeah right. Keep telling yourself that. How long do you think it took TGP to become a success, and a bane on the adult industry?

TGP2 was dead before it started, but at least those that still try it have formed nice friendships.

If you want to stop giving away free porn, and cut down on your expenses, try AVS. That way every person that views your content at least historically has whipped out their credit card to pay for on-line porn.

TGP2

and no, I do not expect Colin to agree with the above. Does not change anything though.

Pipecrew · 04-04-2002, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog

Yeah right. Keep telling yourself that. How long do you think it took TGP to become a success, and a bane on the adult industry?

TGP2 was dead before it started, but at least those that still try it have formed nice friendships.

If you want to stop giving away free porn, and cut down on your expenses, try AVS. That way every person that views your content at least historically has whipped out their credit card to pay for on-line porn.

TGP2

and no, I do not expect Colin to agree with the above. Does not change anything though.

Exactly! Hey Colin if you need some money for a Clue, hit me up k?

Amputate Your Head · 04-04-2002, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by marty
this probably makes my sound like an absolute drongo,

what the fuck is a drongo?

the indigo · 04-04-2002, 11:55 AM

This industry is going nowhere if we can not encourage TGP2's... I don't own a TGP2 nor do I submit galleries, but I appreciate the fact that some people are trying to help the industry... not bullshit them like baddog.

kmanrox · 04-04-2002, 12:10 PM

http://www.tgp2.com/

kmanrox · 04-04-2002, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

what the fuck is a drongo?

his mother's street name?

TDF · 04-04-2002, 12:23 PM

shut up

ADL Colin · 04-04-2002, 01:51 PM

Pipecrew,

I don't think you could afford to buy one for me.

baddog · 04-04-2002, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by the indigo
This industry is going nowhere if we can not encourage TGP2's... I don't own a TGP2 nor do I submit galleries, but I appreciate the fact that some people are trying to help the industry... not bullshit them like baddog.

Oh, you think TGP2 has something more to benefit the industry more than AVS does? I must have missed something, what exactly is it that you do that makes you feel this way?

When I got in this business, there were NO free sites, and to be honest, some of us looked upon AVS with disdain. Then, along came pic posts, link lists, and TGPs, which then led to CJ. They all made AVS begin to look better. But the industry was still young, and I doubt that anyone had any idea that TGP would become what it did. I was just supposed to be a way to let surfers know where your pay site was. So much for that idea.

To think that AVS is bullshit, compared to TGP2 is insane. AVS gives nothing away, and everyone has a history pf spending money on Internet porn. Eliminate TGP, TGP2 and all the other free places for porn, and AVS is the best way to go with low overhead to the webmaster.

tha_timinator · 04-04-2002, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by baddog

When I got in this business, there were NO free sites, (...)

ehmm... yeah sure

baddog · 04-04-2002, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tha_timinator

ehmm... yeah sure

what are you laughing about? You think they always gave away free porn? Hate to disappoint you, but it was not always so.

SleazyDream · 04-04-2002, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Chosen
They both doesn't make me any money

lol

ADL Colin · 04-05-2002, 04:44 AM

Baddog,

You make some excellent points.

I don't care what you call it. I am not worried about a crusade against TGP1 or the crusade against free porn or whatever. The point is to find what works for you and do it. If you've (anyone) tried TGP1 or making TGP1 galleries and it didn't work for you, try TGP2. It involves slightly different skills and you may find better and quicker success there. I'd love to see less free content on the net but as long as there are college kids playing the biggest dick contest and running TGPs being content with $3/day income and 150k+ uniques/day (or whatever), there will be big ass TGP1s. And if they want to do that, so be it, what can one do about it?

If I HATED porn and wanted to put pornographers out of business, I would hire people to build huge TGPs with no banners and advertisements. 90% of TGP1s are really bad for our business. Note the 10% factor. ;)

Some people make money at TGP2. Some don't.
Some people make money at TGP1. Some don't.
Some people make money at AVS. Some don't.
Some people make money making galleries. Some don't.

I've tried making TGP1 galleries and could never make more than $3k/month from them. I just can't market galleries properly. It is away from my skill set and strengths. Maybe i quit to early. But plenty of people do make a good living making galleries. Good for them! It drives me nuts. Who cares? Do something else!

chodadog · 04-05-2002, 09:15 AM

Could someone show me a good example of a TGP 2 site?

I'm fairly new to all this, gimme a break :P

Ludedude · 04-05-2002, 11:42 AM

www.tgp2.com

McSpike · 04-05-2002, 12:41 PM

Amen, Colin!

I just went through analysing my monthly income (for TGP2).

I can only say I do TGP2 1 hour per day and make more on it than many doing TGP1 all day. And talking about BW costs, are you holding your fucking breath? They are 1.73% of my whole TGP2 income and I am hosting on $2.65/G. Can you get that anywhere else, besides on AVS? Ya, I thought so...

And I am doing TGP2 only for the fun of it ahahahaha... No, okay I admit, I am doing it because it's nice additional income and because it works!

-- McSpike --

04-04-2002, 04:26 AM	#1
marty Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,656	TGP - TGP2 what's the diff? this probably makes my sound like an absolute drongo, but I realy don't know what you guys are talking about please clue me in

04-04-2002, 04:42 AM	#2
MetaformX Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 6,704	TGP? TGP2? thats 0old news buddy. TGP3 is here now. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/showth...threadid=55657 im the inventor of it. cool, huh? __________________

04-04-2002, 05:03 AM	#3
Naughty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Utopia Posts: 6,482	The BIGGEST differenc eis that TGP2 only accepts galleries with max 5 pics, pics on HTML pages for more advertising possiblities. More ads and less porn should make you more money. __________________ seks.ai for sale - ping me

04-04-2002, 07:04 AM	#7
ADL Colin Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Tube Titans, USA Posts: 11,929	Re: No one is going to bookmark or visit a TGP2 when there are TGP's. Same percentage. Try it and then tell me if you think I'm wrong. Re: "It was a nice idea, but in reality it failed. " I guess making money counts as failure now? Laughing all the way to the bank ... You count visitors. I'll count dollars. That's fine with me. Every week, TGP2 revenue continues to increase for me. Re: "I have also heard from a number of people that conversions were no better" I have heard a lot of things from a lot of people. 9 months is a long time. TGP2 is still here. Let's see. I started my first CJ site in 1997. That seems like forever ago. Way back at the dawn of time. Using this as a point of reference. already TGP2 has been around for 15% of that time. I agree with Naughty. There are webmasters that fail at TGP, TGP2, CJ, CJ2, AVS, SEs,, paysites. Hell, the news today is that Penthouse is in danger of going out of business. They laid off 26% of their workforce in February and is not generating enough revenue to make their interest payments this year. I don't have time to worry about other people's failures when I am working on my success. Find what works for YOU. __________________ Adult Date Link - $50 PPS starting NOW! -- good and JUICY! skype = "adultdatelink"

04-04-2002, 12:10 PM	#13
kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,292	http://www.tgp2.com/ __________________ Crypto HODLr Crypto mining Angel investor

04-04-2002, 05:35 AM	#4
The Chosen Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Hell Posts: 232	They both doesn't make me any money

04-04-2002, 07:13 AM	#8
XXXManager So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the Western Spiral arm of the Galaxy Posts: 893	You fools.... You got it ALL WRONG TGP and TGP2 are like MPEG and MPEG2. hence - TGP2 is more compressed.. The fact it has less free pics is just a "side-effect" of the technology. The problem with TGP3 is that, like MPEG3 is only for sound - you will not be able to see TGP3 sites, but rather only hear them. That?s why they are destined to fail (unless the moaning is really good) so the upcoming demise of it is inevitable. TGP4 on the other hand (used by hackers only after Microsoft had cancelled its use) AKA - "TGPivx;)" will be the next big think. Unfortunately you will need to install a plugin created my Project-Ketchup to view TGP4 sites. Does that answers anybody's question? Any other open end left? Be happy to answer those as well... XXXManager

04-04-2002, 11:55 AM	#12
the indigo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: North America Posts: 2,016	This industry is going nowhere if we can not encourage TGP2's... I don't own a TGP2 nor do I submit galleries, but I appreciate the fact that some people are trying to help the industry... not bullshit them like baddog.

04-04-2002, 12:23 PM	#15
TDF Triple OG nigga on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in the BP4L family compound Posts: 27,296	shut up __________________ Sig heil

04-04-2002, 01:51 PM	#16
ADL Colin Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Tube Titans, USA Posts: 11,929	Pipecrew, I don't think you could afford to buy one for me. __________________ Adult Date Link - $50 PPS starting NOW! -- good and JUICY! skype = "adultdatelink"

04-05-2002, 04:44 AM	#21
ADL Colin Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Tube Titans, USA Posts: 11,929	Baddog, You make some excellent points. I don't care what you call it. I am not worried about a crusade against TGP1 or the crusade against free porn or whatever. The point is to find what works for you and do it. If you've (anyone) tried TGP1 or making TGP1 galleries and it didn't work for you, try TGP2. It involves slightly different skills and you may find better and quicker success there. I'd love to see less free content on the net but as long as there are college kids playing the biggest dick contest and running TGPs being content with $3/day income and 150k+ uniques/day (or whatever), there will be big ass TGP1s. And if they want to do that, so be it, what can one do about it? If I HATED porn and wanted to put pornographers out of business, I would hire people to build huge TGPs with no banners and advertisements. 90% of TGP1s are really bad for our business. Note the 10% factor. ;) Some people make money at TGP2. Some don't. Some people make money at TGP1. Some don't. Some people make money at AVS. Some don't. Some people make money making galleries. Some don't. I've tried making TGP1 galleries and could never make more than $3k/month from them. I just can't market galleries properly. It is away from my skill set and strengths. Maybe i quit to early. But plenty of people do make a good living making galleries. Good for them! It drives me nuts. Who cares? Do something else! __________________ Adult Date Link - $50 PPS starting NOW! -- good and JUICY! skype = "adultdatelink"

04-05-2002, 09:15 AM	#22
chodadog Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 9,736	Could someone show me a good example of a TGP 2 site? I'm fairly new to all this, gimme a break :P

04-05-2002, 11:42 AM	#23
Ludedude Suck it! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Who wants to know? Posts: 4,432	www.tgp2.com __________________

04-05-2002, 12:41 PM	#24
McSpike Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 1,042	Amen, Colin! I just went through analysing my monthly income (for TGP2). I can only say I do TGP2 1 hour per day and make more on it than many doing TGP1 all day. And talking about BW costs, are you holding your fucking breath? They are 1.73% of my whole TGP2 income and I am hosting on $2.65/G. Can you get that anywhere else, besides on AVS? Ya, I thought so... And I am doing TGP2 only for the fun of it ahahahaha... No, okay I admit, I am doing it because it's nice additional income and because it works! -- McSpike --