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Old 09-13-2002, 01:20 PM   #1
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Face the fucking facts: Tupac Sucks

I'm sick of all these Tupac threads praising him. Its time I came out and admitted what all the real hip hop motherfuckers in here know. Tupac sucks. Read on Bitchez.

His death created a huge glut of crappy tribute albums filled with tracks that sound like he fucking recorded it in a tin can.

His musical legacy, whatever it is, was destroyed by the stream of junk that record companies pumped out to sell his image and to capitalize on his death.

Let me use a different analogy. Yesterday I was walking down the street and I saw a Van Gogh painting being used to sell fucking flowers. The mastery behind the art was ruined by its context. Tupacs' emotions, his lyrics, his conscience - all are reduced to shit because SUGE KNIGHT acting motherfuckers pimp watered down remix after rerelease. Its all about the Benjamins right ?!?

Mainstream "rap" culture, of which Tupac is the dearly departed king has so many mixed messages that the whole genre just becomes bloated with phony haters. Tell me, what SOPHMORE MC album was EVER worth listening too? I may be wrong, but I can't think of one.

I wish I never hear another Tupac song again. I shit on Thug Life and everything it means today.

p.s. If I was writing the hip hop bible it would read...
Matthew 1:1-17
"and MC Hammer begot Vanilla Ice and Vanilla Ice begot Tupac and Tupac begot Eminem and Eminem begot whoever MTV decides is the next hip hop superstar"
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Old 09-13-2002, 01:24 PM   #2
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The Fresh Prince is the real king of rap....
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Old 09-13-2002, 01:26 PM   #3
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The Fresh Prince is the real king of rap....
rap....... what's that?
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Old 09-13-2002, 01:27 PM   #4
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Old 09-13-2002, 01:34 PM   #5
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Face the fucking facts: YOU suck!

You're making two different arguments. His music being bastardized? Possibly. Him sucking, no way. You even admit in your post that he had emotion and conscience. His music to me is in the same vein as Bob Marley, Stevie Wonder or Marvin Gaye. Like them, his music has timeless messages that transcend time or trends or culture. These wanna-be rappers today only wish they could create an impact on the culture that will be around long. Most of them are played out within 2 yrs.

Go back and listen to the Me Against The World album....a MASTERPIECE. Also Makaveli: The Don Killuminati album was next level. That was recorded in 96 and released in 97 when the bling bling phenom started to take off. And that album was raw and so non-mainstream dealing with religion, black empowerment, respect for women, etc.

True he wasn't a cardboard character like these publicity assembly line rappers. He actually had multiple sides to him and was complicated and confusing at times. That's a part of what creates the mistique about him. He was a real human dealing with the same shit as everyone else but was so next level at the same time.

2PAC Forever......
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Old 09-13-2002, 01:38 PM   #6
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Old 09-13-2002, 01:43 PM   #7
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Old 09-13-2002, 01:52 PM   #8
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Old 09-13-2002, 02:02 PM   #9
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I'm sick of all these Tupac threads praising him. Its time I came out and admitted what all the real hip hop motherfuckers in here know. Tupac sucks. Read on Bitchez.

His death created a huge glut of crappy tribute albums filled with tracks that sound like he fucking recorded it in a tin can.

His musical legacy, whatever it is, was destroyed by the stream of junk that record companies pumped out to sell his image and to capitalize on his death.

Let me use a different analogy. Yesterday I was walking down the street and I saw a Van Gogh painting being used to sell fucking flowers. The mastery behind the art was ruined by its context. Tupacs' emotions, his lyrics, his conscience - all are reduced to shit because SUGE KNIGHT acting motherfuckers pimp watered down remix after rerelease. Its all about the Benjamins right ?!?

Mainstream "rap" culture, of which Tupac is the dearly departed king has so many mixed messages that the whole genre just becomes bloated with phony haters. Tell me, what SOPHMORE MC album was EVER worth listening too? I may be wrong, but I can't think of one.

I wish I never hear another Tupac song again. I shit on Thug Life and everything it means today.

p.s. If I was writing the hip hop bible it would read...
Matthew 1:1-17
"and MC Hammer begot Vanilla Ice and Vanilla Ice begot Tupac and Tupac begot Eminem and Eminem begot whoever MTV decides is the next hip hop superstar"

And while we are on the subject~ FUCK THE NOTORIOUS B.I.G.

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Old 09-13-2002, 02:30 PM   #10
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Yah he sucks, thats why his albums today are selling better than most rappers that are alive. His voice will be heard for many years to come.
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Old 09-13-2002, 02:32 PM   #11
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Yah he sucks, thats why his albums today are selling better than most rappers that are alive. His voice will be heard for many years to come.

Uh oh........

Toopacs peeps are coming out to defend!
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Old 09-13-2002, 02:57 PM   #12
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p.s. If I was writing the hip hop bible it would read...
Matthew 1:1-17
"and MC Hammer begot Vanilla Ice and Vanilla Ice begot Tupac and Tupac begot Eminem and Eminem begot whoever MTV decides is the next hip hop superstar"

Vanilla Ice begot Tupac,,LOL,, are you serious?

tupac is like the elvis presely of rap,, you gonna hear bout him forever even though he is dead
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Old 09-13-2002, 02:59 PM   #13
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The statement "Tupac sucks" is immediately invalid anyway, because Tupac is dead.

When he was alive, Tupac ruled. Souljah's Revenge!
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Old 01-23-2006, 01:22 PM   #14
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Though you pour yourself into that frame and present it so proudly
this world could not accept your masterpieces, from the heart
So on that starry night, you gave to us and you took away from us
the one thing we never acknowledged, your life..


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Old 01-23-2006, 01:24 PM   #15
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Fact: the guy's been dead for a long time.
That's all you need to know.

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Old 01-23-2006, 01:27 PM   #16
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Old 01-23-2006, 01:30 PM   #17
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I knew this was an old thread when I saw pornJester posting. Haven't seen him in ages.
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Old 01-23-2006, 01:45 PM   #18
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Old 01-23-2006, 01:52 PM   #19
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