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Old 01-25-2006, 02:14 PM   #1
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Fleshlight accepts fusker sites?

Sort of seems silly to allow fusker sites to promote anything in the adult business, considering they are 100% hotlinking scumbags.

http://fusker.wegotcandy.com//?lid=265803&query=teen

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... and if it steals bandwidth and uses content without permission....
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They still have traffic and can convert it...I guess.
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But you realize that they are getting paid to steal from other webmasters, use bandwidth, and steal content and use it without permission (without the context of the website, such as what google images does)?

They don't thumb it and link, they link the big pictures... if you get in the wrong place in fusker, they can totally wipe a 10 mps connection... effectively a DDos attack of sorts.

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But you realize that they are getting paid to steal from other webmasters, use bandwidth, and steal content and use it without permission (without the context of the website, such as what google images does)?

They don't thumb it and link, they link the big pictures... if you get in the wrong place in fusker, they can totally wipe a 10 mps connection... effectively a DDos attack of sorts.

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I wanna put all those fusker sites out of business, i fucking hate them
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They are truly a pain... and paying them to stay in business is sort of like stealing from your friends, in a way.

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But you realize that they are getting paid to steal from other webmasters, use bandwidth, and steal content and use it without permission (without the context of the website, such as what google images does)?

They don't thumb it and link, they link the big pictures... if you get in the wrong place in fusker, they can totally wipe a 10 mps connection... effectively a DDos attack of sorts.

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Looks like I'll have to get out my old Fusker removal tool.
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fleshlight, AFF and amateurmatch.com all on the page posted...
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Sort of seems silly to allow fusker sites to promote anything in the adult business, considering they are 100% hotlinking scumbags.

http://fusker.wegotcandy.com//?lid=265803&query=teen

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i see all sorts of big sponsors on crack sites, torrent sites, password sites, etc. pretty common. traffic is traffic to many.
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Oops, they're not down, they just blocked my IP since I was bulk removing their galleries. Guess I'll have to do it from another IP.
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If it's ok with AFF, Guba, Fleshlights, etc.. build your own Fusker site too ?
Scripts are free. When in Rome ..
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But you realize that they are getting paid to steal from other webmasters, use bandwidth, and steal content and use it without permission (without the context of the website, such as what google images does)?

They don't thumb it and link, they link the big pictures... if you get in the wrong place in fusker, they can totally wipe a 10 mps connection... effectively a DDos attack of sorts.

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if webmasters werent stupid and setup hotlinking protection, then they wouldnt cry like a baby.
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if webmasters werent stupid and setup hotlinking protection, then they wouldnt cry like a baby.
There are a lot of benefits to htaccess
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There are a lot of benefits to htaccess
Nevertheless, a top-line sponsor should not endorse that kind of behavior.

I am curious as to how Juicy will respond to this.
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matt0 please go on and explain your fusker removale tool ;)
Just a simple script that runs through the fusker #'s and reports them as "illegal" so they get removed. Most of the bigger fusker sites now have an image verify box now so it makes automation impossible. This site doesn't though.
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Why should Juicy be any different than the much larger sponsors who accept it ? A double standard ?
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Why should Juicy be any different than the much larger sponsors who accept it ? A double standard ?
Nope. His name was the first one mentioned so that is why I am curious to see his reply.

I would like to see the replies of any sponsor who profits from stolen traffic.

It is very easy for smaller website to get burned by the "fusker-like" activity. Not only do we lose sales, but the bandwidth overages can can mean the difference between having a profitable month and going in the hole.

Hot-linking sites are bad for business and the people who run than are only slightly better than the people who support them.
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fris, I have all the hotlinking protection up, but new fusker sites appear on a daily basis, and they all suck traffic away. Some of the more inventive sites (not fusker) fuck the headers so that htaccess is less effective.

I shouldn't have to stand next to my server with a gun to keep people from stealing from me, and I would think that the good and honest people (relative term, I know) of this business would take a stand and not accept traffic and financially reward people who's entire business model is based on stealing from people who don't lock the doors tight enough and don't post a security guard.

To me it just seems obvious... maybe I am just missing something.

BTW, my fusker buddies get to enjoy many good views of *******

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I also find it a little sad that this thread is sinking rapidly onto page 2 and 3, like nobody wants to talk about the dirty laundry or whatever...

I understand.

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I also find it a little sad that this thread is sinking rapidly onto page 2 and 3, like nobody wants to talk about the dirty laundry or whatever...

I understand.

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probably because most webmasters are smart enough to enable .htaccess and don't care about these sites. live and learn and move on like the rest of the cattle.
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Without a reply from Juicy I can only assume that the answer lies in the traffic.

Count Search Term
104559 fusker

Count Search Term
26474 fleshlight

It is sad but true that we are all whores to one degree or another and like all whores we will sell out our friends for easy money.

No offense Juicy. You may have a different opinion but without a reply we are left to ponder...
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spudster, you don't get it, do you? I AM PROTECTED ALREADY. I send all fusker traffic away. That ain't the issue. Implying that I am stupid because I didn't do something makes you look like a fool for not reading the entire thread before posting.

The issue is companies that act like they are good citizens, and then turn around and send checks to sites that steal from others to make money. They violate copyright, steal bandwidth (which means others incur costs), and generally steal from everyone.

I don't understand why anyone would deal business with people who's entire business model is theft.
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fris, I have all the hotlinking protection up, but new fusker sites appear on a daily basis, and they all suck traffic away. Some of the more inventive sites (not fusker) fuck the headers so that htaccess is less effective.

I shouldn't have to stand next to my server with a gun to keep people from stealing from me, and I would think that the good and honest people (relative term, I know) of this business would take a stand and not accept traffic and financially reward people who's entire business model is based on stealing from people who don't lock the doors tight enough and don't post a security guard.

To me it just seems obvious... maybe I am just missing something.

BTW, my fusker buddies get to enjoy many good views of *******

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How do the more inventive sites "fuck the headers"? If headers are messed with on an "attacker" sites script to fetch an image and serve it to users he incurrs bandwidth charges for the image proxying, i doubt anyone would do that. If you mean headers are messed with on the user end, well that has nothing to do with fusker type sites rite?

im confused, can you provide a site that does what u say?
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They probably bring in more sales than 80% of gfyers combined...
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They probably bring in more sales than 80% of gfyers combined...
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No one usually cares UNTIL it affects their own bottom line. A designer scammed you, and proof was shown ? They still get plenty of work, and everyone else overlooks it. Someone stole your content? Most won't care, until it's stolen from them too. Sponsor caught fucking several people over, but pays others on-time too ? Again, no one here really cares until it affects their own bottom line.

Spamming, spyware, adware, lying, shaving, stealing, etc.. We're a big greedy dysfunctional family with double, triple standards.
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No one usually cares UNTIL it affects their own bottom line. A designer scammed you, and proof was shown ? They still get plenty of work, and everyone else overlooks it. Someone stole your content? Most won't care, until it's stolen from them too. Sponsor caught fucking several people over, but pays others on-time too ? Again, no one here really cares until it affects their own bottom line.

Spamming, spyware, adware, lying, shaving, stealing, etc.. We're a big greedy dysfunctional family with double, triple standards.

Very well stated. It is sad but true. We don't worry about our neighbor's dogs running wild until they shit on our doorstep.
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Ill check into that acct btw let me read and see who the guy is nehind the acct

Shit slips by , we had a few people send doggy traffic woof woof but we shut em down We got 2 many affs atm and hard to know what each is doing but ill look into it
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Juicy, let me give you a simple hint:

Get your programmers to write a little program that goes out and scans refering pages for terms like "fusker" or "password" or "lolita" or similar in the refering URL. You will save yourself much grief in life if you ACTIVELY look for these troubles, rather than waiting for something to come out here.

Fusker is a blight on our industry, and anything to lower their value in life is an improvement.

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Who the fuck invented that fusker shit? All it does is eats a lot of traffic. Fucking competition to Chinese traffic.
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I hate those fucking things. They cost me close to $800 in bandwidth overages one month, because the damn things started linking when I was out of town and not regularly checking my MRTGs.
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How do the more inventive sites "fuck the headers"? If headers are messed with on an "attacker" sites script to fetch an image and serve it to users he incurrs bandwidth charges for the image proxying, i doubt anyone would do that. If you mean headers are messed with on the user end, well that has nothing to do with fusker type sites rite?

im confused, can you provide a site that does what u say?
Its nearly impossible, unless every client browser is configured not to send the referrer header, in accordance with the HTTP spec.


I know of one way to get around this, but I haven't seen a single fusker using it (and I've seen thousands of fuskers in my logs)
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well i checked your domain and we have several gals listed and just few pics hotlinked,like 15 or so. Doesn't look problem to me, but I can't tell if thats the case for everyone
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I love them ........... Fuskers that is, no wait fleshlight that is, no wait .............. very confused, it is ok to steal as long as it brings in money right ?
oh no I am so confused, Juicy would never ever be involved with thiefs, now would he ?
jeez very confusing this is, is it ?
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oh shit I fucked up, I am sure Juicy will call me a douche bag again, oh sweet Lord what have I done to deserve this.
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actually i was wrong,i see on main fusker.com like 500+ hotlinks and not only for our domains but for most sites
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that's pretty bad, i thought they were listing also some gals and not extracting just the pics

does anyone have a list of sites using this fusker thing?
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