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FiberNexus · 01-26-2006, 09:29 PM

ISPrime, Webair, Ch00pa, Voxel, JupiterHosting or NatNet?

Ok guys, I am in need of a co-location provider for 5+ racks and a ton of bandwidth? I really need some very honest opinions here because I?m looking at investing a lot of money into new servers and network gear and I need the perfect home for this stuff.

I listed the following companies in the subject line because I have done a ton of research and these hosts keep coming up at fan favorites and with fantastic reviews: ISPrime, Webair, Ch00pa, Voxel, JupiterHosting and NatNet. I target many types of clients ranging from private game server clients to managed small business hosting clients. Because of this reliability is key...

My requirements are as follows:

1. 99.99 ? 100% network uptime SLA with evidence of achieving such great percentages.
2. In addition to having an SLA they need to have a solid refund policy for not meeting the guaranteed network uptime.
3. A redundant network with multiple teir-1 backbone providers in a BGP mix.
4. Low latency network! I host a lot of game servers and this is an absolute MUST.
5. 100% power uptime SLA, again with an adequate refund policy for not meeting the guarantee.
6. 24/7 ONSITE support with free basic remote hands services such as server reboots.
7. FAST and intelligent support with a 24/7 real toll-free support line in addition to online support.
8. Additional managed services available and provided by the datacenter?s onsite staff. (Services such as managing our switches, hardware firewalls, etc.)
9. INTEGRITY! I am looking at sending around 150 servers to this datacenter and I might not even live within the datacenter?s vicinity? I need to know they?re going to take good care of my equipment and also that they wont walk away with it overnight.

#9 on my list may have rendered a couple of the companies listed in the subject-line obsolete eh? For example, I have read some great things about hahahahahaha and I know their network is lighting fast? but are they/were they really involved in IP hijacking scandals? I can?t trust a host like that?

What about webair? They seem to host a whole wealth of KNOWN spammers? wouldn?t that put me at an extremely high risk to have the FBI walk into the datacenter and seize all of webair?s servers (including mine)? I mean? I know webair has terrific pricing (and a HUGE fan base) and all but can that really justify the risk? Not for me? but then again I could be wrong about the whole spammer thing. Maybe spamhaus.org isn?t all that accurate?

And in terms of numbers 3 and 4 on my list, which of the above networks provide the most robust array of teir-1 backbone providers, superior uptime and low latency?

What about support? Who provides the best support - not only the quickest response times but the most accurate and helpful solutions?

Alright, you get the point? so who should I host with? And why should I host with them? Please share your experiences with the listed web hosts! THANK YOU!

kacy · 01-26-2006, 09:34 PM

From the list I would have to say Net Net. First class company all the way and beyond fanstastic support.

Veterans Day · 01-26-2006, 09:41 PM

Personally I think you should look closely at which companies are hosted at the above host. Mainstream and Adult. For example

ISprime, the ultimate hosting company, today announced that it has signed a hosting agreement with Casio, Inc, one of the world's largest and best known digital technology manufacturers. ISprime provides Casio with a fully managed hosting solution built upon Dell PowerEdge Servers complete with firewalls and load balancers.

Everyone has their favorites but you are making a serious committment, choose wisely.

Ice · 01-26-2006, 09:46 PM

Can't forget OC3Networks

HollywoodChris · 01-26-2006, 09:58 PM

I've used most of these companies in the past and a few excellent companies that are not mentioned above. I'm running 20 pay sites, all the occash members? areas, all my free hosted galleries, and free hosted webmasters with Jupiter Hosting because of one reason. They take care of business and do exactly what is needed to better our business.

Good luck making your decision and if you need any info please feel free to hit me up anytime.

LaurieX · 01-26-2006, 10:02 PM

I hear Jupiter Hosting is the best!

mayon · 01-26-2006, 10:13 PM

ISPrime get my vote.

they been doing major network related moves+tie ups+ upgrade lately.
you get the idea that they're the BIGGER PLAYER out there

xxxjay · 01-26-2006, 10:27 PM

Jupiter and Natnet are the 2 winners in that pack and they are the people that get my business. Our experience with ISprime was not so good.

Phatservers is a very good host as well. Sly is a good guy.

directfiesta · 01-26-2006, 10:37 PM

get your cage at http://www.nac.net/business/colo.asp ( no ref codes ).

up , up and always up.

FrankWhite · 01-26-2006, 10:44 PM

isprime.com > *

Sausage · 01-26-2006, 10:51 PM

Isprime and NationalNet really belong in their own list. You can't compare the likes of Isprime and Natnet with those others ... they are for mission critical stuff.

The others are discount hosts of varying degrees.

For what you are describing I think you should really skip straight to one of those two. They are proven, and while they are more expensive you definitely are getting what you pay for.

FrankWhite · 01-26-2006, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sausage

Isprime and NationalNet really belong in their own list. You can't compare the likes of Isprime and Natnet with those others ... they are for mission critical stuff.

The others are discount hosts of varying degrees.

For what you are describing I think you should really skip straight to one of those two. They are proven, and while they are more expensive you definitely are getting what you pay for.

good post man!!!

Jace · 01-26-2006, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sausage

Isprime and NationalNet really belong in their own list. You can't compare the likes of Isprime and Natnet with those others ... they are for mission critical stuff.

The others are discount hosts of varying degrees.

For what you are describing I think you should really skip straight to one of those two. They are proven, and while they are more expensive you definitely are getting what you pay for.

awesome post and 100% true....natnet and isprime are the top of the pack for sure

I have down home ties to natnet, so they always get my recommendation when someone asks..but they do host some of the largest sites in the world (literally), so that shouldl say something right there

Veterans Day · 01-27-2006, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sausage

Isprime and NationalNet really belong in their own list. You can't compare the likes of Isprime and Natnet with those others ... they are for mission critical stuff.

The others are discount hosts of varying degrees.

For what you are describing I think you should really skip straight to one of those two. They are proven, and while they are more expensive you definitely are getting what you pay for.

Thread Closed

Joesho · 01-27-2006, 12:02 AM

The best move we have ever made, was choosing www.Natnet.com

Those guys REALLY know their shit, and never try to fuck you over or bulshit you in anyway.

WiredGuy · 01-27-2006, 12:21 AM

If you're looking for the 99-100% SLA, I'd suggest NatNet of the bunch.
WG

ffmihai · 01-27-2006, 12:29 AM

www.varzi.net

Zuzana Designs · 01-27-2006, 12:31 AM

I'm with webair

Fucked Beyond Repair · 01-27-2006, 12:32 AM

Havn't tried anyone else than ISPrime... never had a reason to

Cory W · 01-27-2006, 12:45 AM

Jupiterhosting has some great people. They are doing some pretty innovative things...IMO.

Ycaza · 01-27-2006, 12:54 AM

always worth askin me for a price if you want to be closer to more networks

ServerGenius · 01-27-2006, 01:08 AM

Hit me up if you want unbiased independent advice that fits best to your needs.
There are a lot more variables in play than just picking a company to host your
servers.....if you have 150 servers I'm sure you are aware of this.

JFK · 01-27-2006, 01:13 AM

there are some fine choices mentioned in there

V_RocKs · 01-27-2006, 02:37 AM

From the list? Natnet

Others I would rather choose?

www.Swiftco.net if you need lots of BW
www.gotwebhost.com if you need lots of IP's

Brujah · 01-27-2006, 02:50 AM

Does it still need to be said ? National Net all the way!

mattyboy · 01-27-2006, 04:57 AM

See sig... "Powered by NatNet"

the Shemp · 01-27-2006, 05:03 AM

we use NatNet

darksoul · 01-27-2006, 05:07 AM

Lots of the hosts spammed here or listed by you have no chance of
meeting your requirements.
Your best choice with be natnet if you really wanna go this route
altho expect to shell out a huge chunk of cash.

If I were you, I'd look for an onsite employee that knows its stuff
around hardware and colocate in Equinix.
And then take a team to manage the network offsite with the help
of the onsite employee.
Your total cost will be less than going the other routes.
And you'll have total control over your network and be able
to switch the team whenever you feel like.

Imagine you chose one of the above hosts, and after
a year or so you get a problem with them and you wanna move.
Its gonna be a pain to move that many servers.

Theo · 01-27-2006, 05:20 AM

Isprime4life

SinisterStudios · 01-27-2006, 06:05 AM

There are so many good DC's in the NY/NJ area why dont you just get your own colo space and have a good management company manage your equiptment. If you want to go this route hit me up i have worked in almost all the DC's in the Area. We have multiple cages in Equinix and love their model and their DC's, cant beat the carrier neutral model. Lots and lots of providers to choice from.

Big Fish 47 · 01-27-2006, 06:55 AM

www.oxeo.com

boldy · 01-27-2006, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kacy

From the list I would have to say Net Net. First class company all the way and beyond fanstastic support.

Nat NET

Just moved all my servers over there. They are a rock solid company with great techs !

3-4 minute averages to solve a ticket .

rockbear · 01-27-2006, 06:56 AM

'' What about webair? They seem to host a whole wealth of KNOWN spammers? wouldn?t that put me at an extremely high risk to have the FBI walk into the datacenter and seize all of webair?s servers (including mine)? I mean? I know webair has terrific pricing (and a HUGE fan base) and all but can that really justify the risk? Not for me? but then again I could be wrong about the whole spammer thing. Maybe spamhaus.org isn?t all that accurate? ''

Are you serious about that?

FiberNexus · 01-27-2006, 07:52 AM

Wow, thank you everyone that has participated in this thread so far. Your comments are really helpful and your opinions are valued. Please keep the reviews/suggestions coming because I am taking all of this into account and adding it to my research. Thank you.

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Veterans Day
Personally I think you should look closely at which companies are hosted at the above host. Mainstream and Adult. For example? ISprime, the ultimate hosting company, today announced that it has signed a hosting agreement with Casio, Inc, one of the world's largest and best known digital technology manufacturers. ISprime provides Casio with a fully managed hosting solution built upon Dell PowerEdge Servers complete with firewalls and load balancers..

So you?re saying that ISPrime hosts world-classes businesses in addition to *focusing* on mainstream adult web hosting?

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Ice
Can't forget OC3Networks

Well I have started looking into them only because they have such great access to fantastic bandwidth providers. Truthfully though I?m really looking to get put my services with someone on the East Coast that way I?m still relatively close to them at all times. If I can put them in NYC/NJ that?s great? but I listed others like JupiterHosting because of their superb reputations. As long as the company has impeccable remote hands services, then being near the servers isn?t as important. I may look further into OC3Networks, thank you for the recommendation.

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HollywoodChris
Good luck making your decision and if you need any info please feel free to hit me up anytime.

Thank you very much!

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xxxjay
Jupiter and Natnet are the 2 winners in that pack and they are the people that get my business. Our experience with ISprime was not so good.

What went wrong with ISPrime? I?ve only read good things about them on this forum and other hosting-related forums. Any negative input you have would be appreciated!

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directfiesta
get your cage at http://www.nac.net/business/colo.asp

I?ve looked into NAC before (and had servers with them) and to be honest, their network seems to be really geared for the East Coast and doesn?t provide great speeds elsewhere. I also do not like a lot of the hardware they use. I used to lease servers from them and had memory fail, hard drives crash, etc. on a weekly basis. I had so many problems with cheap/poor hardware that I left :/.

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Sausage
Isprime and NationalNet really belong in their own list. You can't compare the likes of Isprime and Natnet with those others ... they are for mission critical stuff.

Well I am definitely looking for ?mission critical? colocation services ? thank you for your review.

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Mystery Man
how about reflected.net

Reflected.net is no longer owned by Jeff right? I think ServerCentral bought them up. ServerCentral is really solid and I have considered them before. However when I had spoken with ServerCentral in the past they weren?t really willing to offer me the level of service I was looking for with regard to remote hands and extra managed services. But maybe I?ll shoot them another sales email/call.

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DynaSpain
There are a lot more variables in play than just picking a company to host your
servers.....

There sure are!

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darksoul
Lots of the hosts spammed here or listed by you have no chance of meeting your requirements. Your best choice with be natnet if you really wanna go this route although expect to shell out a huge chunk of cash. If I were you, I'd look for an onsite employee that knows its stuff around hardware and colocate in Equinix. And then take a team to manage the network offsite with the help of the onsite employee. Your total cost will be less than going the other routes. And you'll have total control over your network and be able to switch the team whenever you feel like. Imagine you chose one of the above hosts, and after a year or so you get a problem with them and you wanna move. Its gonna be a pain to move that many servers.

Well I currently have a 24/7 support team for my customers but they literally live all over the world. I?m still not big enough to relocate all of them and open a central office? so I have to keep them all working remotely. Because of that I can?t afford to hire an additional 24/7 on-site team. Having 1 or 2 employees in the area with access to the datacenter is great, but I still need my servers monitored and supported 24/7 by remote hands services provided by my host. If I were to go with Equinix, first of all I?d need to get my own routers which is out of the question right now. I don?t have ~15 ? 50k to shell out on 2x Juniper routers. And secondly I?d need to buy all my own transit on lower level commitments which is more expensive than just going with one of the above hosts that already have multiple Gbps commits with hosts and can get me better pricing. I do thank you kindly though for your very honest opinion!

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SinisterStudios
There are so many good DC's in the NY/NJ area why dont you just get your own colo space and have a good management company manage your equiptment. If you want to go this route hit me up i have worked in almost all the DC's in the Area. We have multiple cages in Equinix and love their model and their DC's, cant beat the carrier neutral model. Lots and lots of providers to choice from.

Well basically just because of what I said above ? I can support the infrastructure costs at this point. I?m still small enough that going with a managed colocation provider makes sense

.

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rockbear
Are you serious about that?

Yeh? take a look on Spamhaus.org, Webair hosts more spammers than any of the other hosts I listed. Also, Webair hosts way more known ?ROKSO? spammers. So yes? I?m serious about that. But again, I?ve also read such good things about webair that I was thinking someone might be able to show me I was wrong.

Veterans Day · 01-27-2006, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by FiberNexus

Wow, thank you everyone that has participated in this thread so far. Your comments are really helpful and your opinions are valued. Please keep the reviews/suggestions coming because I am taking all of this into account and adding it to my research. Thank you.

So you?re saying that ISPrime hosts world-classes businesses in addition to *focusing* on mainstream adult web hosting?

Well I have started looking into them only because they have such great access to fantastic bandwidth providers. Truthfully though I?m really looking to get put my services with someone on the East Coast that way I?m still relatively close to them at all times. If I can put them in NYC/NJ that?s great? but I listed others like JupiterHosting because of their superb reputations. As long as the company has impeccable remote hands services, then being near the servers isn?t as important. I may look further into OC3Networks, thank you for the recommendation.

Thank you very much!

What went wrong with ISPrime? I?ve only read good things about them on this forum and other hosting-related forums. Any negative input you have would be appreciated!

I?ve looked into NAC before (and had servers with them) and to be honest, their network seems to be really geared for the East Coast and doesn?t provide great speeds elsewhere. I also do not like a lot of the hardware they use. I used to lease servers from them and had memory fail, hard drives crash, etc. on a weekly basis. I had so many problems with cheap/poor hardware that I left :/.

Well I am definitely looking for ?mission critical? colocation services ? thank you for your review.

Reflected.net is no longer owned by Jeff right? I think ServerCentral bought them up. ServerCentral is really solid and I have considered them before. However when I had spoken with ServerCentral in the past they weren?t really willing to offer me the level of service I was looking for with regard to remote hands and extra managed services. But maybe I?ll shoot them another sales email/call.

There sure are!

Well I currently have a 24/7 support team for my customers but they literally live all over the world. I?m still not big enough to relocate all of them and open a central office? so I have to keep them all working remotely. Because of that I can?t afford to hire an additional 24/7 on-site team. Having 1 or 2 employees in the area with access to the datacenter is great, but I still need my servers monitored and supported 24/7 by remote hands services provided by my host. If I were to go with Equinix, first of all I?d need to get my own routers which is out of the question right now. I don?t have ~15 ? 50k to shell out on 2x Juniper routers. And secondly I?d need to buy all my own transit on lower level commitments which is more expensive than just going with one of the above hosts that already have multiple Gbps commits with hosts and can get me better pricing. I do thank you kindly though for your very honest opinion!

Well basically just because of what I said above ? I can support the infrastructure costs at this point. I?m still small enough that going with a managed colocation provider makes sense

.

Yeh? take a look on Spamhaus.org, Webair hosts more spammers than any of the other hosts I listed. Also, Webair hosts way more known ?ROKSO? spammers. So yes? I?m serious about that. But again, I?ve also read such good things about webair that I was thinking someone might be able to show me I was wrong.

Fiber, feel free to contact Henry at isprime and ask him who they host. I think you will be pleasantly surprised with whom he tells you are their clients. Casio.com is not another run of the mill company as you well know. ISPrime just got done in december with their own DC if that matters to you as well. NatNet and ISPrime are the only ones I would consider period, and I would opt for ISPrime, just due to being with Denis and crew for what seems like forever. The level of support is fabulous, never a minute goes by I cant call a toll free number, send an email or grab a tech on ICQ. Just my

justsexxx · 01-27-2006, 08:21 AM

Talk with isprime and natnet. These 2 are the best.

King Adam · 01-27-2006, 08:35 AM

I've got my members areas with Jupiter. They have been awesome. One month I even had a security leak ... my own fault ... and Jupiter didn't charge me for the overage that got used. Poppy RULES and their service is top notch.

Also love PhatServers.com. Run all my TGP and free sites through them.

I have been looking for a new home for my pay sites. I want the fastest network thats always up. All I hear is Nat Net or ISPrime are the best for this. They are more money then the rest, but I hear its worth it.

Does anyone know if Nat Net or ISPrime are running any specials on dedicated boxes?

JUSTB · 01-27-2006, 08:41 AM

We have a privately held class A data center located in Kissimmee, Florida

http://www.marlinwebhosting.com/pictures/

If you are interested in a quote let me know. I can also have our CTO available to you to answer any questions.

Kimmykim · 01-27-2006, 08:47 AM

I love the guys at ISPrime, and Webair is great. But I voted for Jupiter. Interestingly enough, KC, who's now part of Jupiter, was the guy who introduced me to ISPrime years ago (when he was Paycounter and some paysites) and has never had anything negative to say about them.

#9 on your list, was the reason that I voted for Jupiter. I'd say all services are equal for alot of the hosts on your list. But when it comes to integrity, I don't think there's a man (or mouse) in this industry that has more integrity than Ray.

gregtx · 01-27-2006, 08:54 AM

hosting is a personal choice.. of what is important to you... i'd contact all of them.. get to know them.. then make a choice...
I personally recommend:
Nat Net
Jupiter
Webair..
b/c we do/or have done biz with them... all top notch companies with good products... no hosting company will be perfect... nor will any have zero downtime or issues.. but its the effort put forth to prevent and correct any issues that make the biggest difference...

TinaBallina · 01-27-2006, 11:27 AM

Going to have to go with Poppy, Jupiter Hosting.....xo

Manowar · 01-27-2006, 11:30 AM

interesting thread

xlogger · 01-27-2006, 11:30 AM

Voxel

lol, duh!

darksoul · 01-27-2006, 11:34 AM

I'm in a hurry so I'll be quick.
if you can't fork 50k forget about hosting 150 servers
with a top notch provider.

SquireMD · 01-27-2006, 11:46 AM

ISPrime...with the exception of NatNet, why is this even a discussion? it's like comparing the MLB and double A baseball (or the NHL and qmjhl for you canadians)

FiberNexus · 01-27-2006, 12:21 PM

Keep the comments coming guys

. I appreciate all of your opinions.

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King Adam
Does anyone know if Nat Net or ISPrime are running any specials on dedicated boxes?

On ISPrime?s homepage they?re running some ?half-off? specials on dedicated servers. You should check it out

.

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Kimmykim
#9 on your list, was the reason that I voted for Jupiter. I'd say all services are equal for alot of the hosts on your list. But when it comes to integrity, I don't think there's a man (or mouse) in this industry that has more integrity than Ray.

Thank you, I will take note of that.

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xlogger
Voxel

Why Voxel? I know Voxel isn?t very popular on GFY yet but I know they?re actually extremely popular amongst many hosting communities. I know they operate an EXCELLENT network that is even a mirror for such reputable sites as SourceForge ? but I don?t know if their level of service (remote hands, support, etc.) could compare to ISPrime, NatNet, etc.

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darksoul
I'm in a hurry so I'll be quick. if you can't fork 50k forget about hosting 150 servers with a top notch provider.

I can?t afford to fork over 50k *extra* on top of what I?m already paying for premium cisco switches and juniper firewalls + additional servers for routers. I can cover my current costs of managing my support staff, servers and customers, as well as hosting for them? but I can?t buy new routers

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SquireMD
ISPrime...with the exception of NatNet, why is this even a discussion? it's like comparing the MLB and double A baseball (or the NHL and qmjhl for you canadians)

Heh, I love sports and I love your comparison ? but I don?t know if it?s a legitimate comparison. Obviously the leaders here in this poll are ISPrime, NatNet and Jupiter but the other hosts still have some votes too. I?m trying to learn what makes ISPrime (for example) THAT MUCH more superior than Webair for example.

01-27-2006, 01:02 PM

Webair ROCKS... and always will.

Juicy D. Links · 01-27-2006, 01:10 PM

Webair...............

Fast support via phone , email or chat

Fast fixes to any issues.

4 am i can call and get live person on the line.

Webair my only choice.

Babagirls · 01-27-2006, 01:13 PM

LOLOL look who all voted for webair:

Dolly The Sheep-Juicy
Enrique-Juicy
Ernie D. Links-Juicy
JESSE JACKSON-Juicy??
Juicy D. Links-Juicy
Lee Hotti
PabloEscobar
Pete-KT's Dad
pornstar2fag

i love it

CE_BigB · 01-27-2006, 01:15 PM

50 Polls

Big B
CECash.com

View Poll Results: ISPrime, Webair, Ch00pa, Voxel, JupiterHosting or NatNet?
ISPrime.com	59	28.37%
Webair.com	57	27.40%
Ch00pa.com	11	5.29%
Voxel.net	2	0.96%
JupiterHosting.com	35	16.83%
NatNet.com	44	21.15%
Voters: 208. You may not vote on this poll

01-26-2006, 09:29 PM	#1
FiberNexus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: New York Posts: 99	ISPrime, Webair, Ch00pa, Voxel, JupiterHosting or NatNet? ISPrime, Webair, Ch00pa, Voxel, JupiterHosting or NatNet? Ok guys, I am in need of a co-location provider for 5+ racks and a ton of bandwidth? I really need some very honest opinions here because I?m looking at investing a lot of money into new servers and network gear and I need the perfect home for this stuff. I listed the following companies in the subject line because I have done a ton of research and these hosts keep coming up at fan favorites and with fantastic reviews: ISPrime, Webair, Ch00pa, Voxel, JupiterHosting and NatNet. I target many types of clients ranging from private game server clients to managed small business hosting clients. Because of this reliability is key... My requirements are as follows: 1. 99.99 ? 100% network uptime SLA with evidence of achieving such great percentages. 2. In addition to having an SLA they need to have a solid refund policy for not meeting the guaranteed network uptime. 3. A redundant network with multiple teir-1 backbone providers in a BGP mix. 4. Low latency network! I host a lot of game servers and this is an absolute MUST. 5. 100% power uptime SLA, again with an adequate refund policy for not meeting the guarantee. 6. 24/7 ONSITE support with free basic remote hands services such as server reboots. 7. FAST and intelligent support with a 24/7 real toll-free support line in addition to online support. 8. Additional managed services available and provided by the datacenter?s onsite staff. (Services such as managing our switches, hardware firewalls, etc.) 9. INTEGRITY! I am looking at sending around 150 servers to this datacenter and I might not even live within the datacenter?s vicinity? I need to know they?re going to take good care of my equipment and also that they wont walk away with it overnight. #9 on my list may have rendered a couple of the companies listed in the subject-line obsolete eh? For example, I have read some great things about hahahahahaha and I know their network is lighting fast? but are they/were they really involved in IP hijacking scandals? I can?t trust a host like that? What about webair? They seem to host a whole wealth of KNOWN spammers? wouldn?t that put me at an extremely high risk to have the FBI walk into the datacenter and seize all of webair?s servers (including mine)? I mean? I know webair has terrific pricing (and a HUGE fan base) and all but can that really justify the risk? Not for me? but then again I could be wrong about the whole spammer thing. Maybe spamhaus.org isn?t all that accurate? And in terms of numbers 3 and 4 on my list, which of the above networks provide the most robust array of teir-1 backbone providers, superior uptime and low latency? What about support? Who provides the best support - not only the quickest response times but the most accurate and helpful solutions? Alright, you get the point? so who should I host with? And why should I host with them? Please share your experiences with the listed web hosts! THANK YOU! __________________

01-26-2006, 09:34 PM	#2
kacy Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: So Cal Posts: 877	From the list I would have to say Net Net. First class company all the way and beyond fanstastic support. __________________ ~Kacy

01-26-2006, 09:41 PM	#3
Veterans Day Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Windy City Posts: 8,403	Personally I think you should look closely at which companies are hosted at the above host. Mainstream and Adult. For example ISprime, the ultimate hosting company, today announced that it has signed a hosting agreement with Casio, Inc, one of the world's largest and best known digital technology manufacturers. ISprime provides Casio with a fully managed hosting solution built upon Dell PowerEdge Servers complete with firewalls and load balancers. Everyone has their favorites but you are making a serious committment, choose wisely. __________________ Build a Massive Traffic Network, Hands FREE, Totally Automated

01-26-2006, 09:46 PM	#4
Ice Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sunny California Posts: 26,053	Can't forget OC3Networks __________________ icq 1904905

01-26-2006, 09:58 PM	#5
HollywoodChris Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,282	I've used most of these companies in the past and a few excellent companies that are not mentioned above. I'm running 20 pay sites, all the occash members? areas, all my free hosted galleries, and free hosted webmasters with Jupiter Hosting because of one reason. They take care of business and do exactly what is needed to better our business. Good luck making your decision and if you need any info please feel free to hit me up anytime.

01-26-2006, 10:02 PM	#6
LaurieX Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,541	I hear Jupiter Hosting is the best! __________________ [email protected] ICQ# 81820905 Aim LaurieX THE BANNER YOU ARE TRYING TO RUN IS CAUSING ERRORS FOR EVERYONE ON GFY. PLEASE CORRECT IT!!!

01-26-2006, 10:13 PM	#7
mayon Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 196	ISPrime get my vote. they been doing major network related moves+tie ups+ upgrade lately. you get the idea that they're the BIGGER PLAYER out there __________________ icq 250976254 \| featuring High Def sites that convert!

01-26-2006, 10:27 PM	#8
xxxjay Tube groupie. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: LoScandalous, CA Posts: 13,482	Jupiter and Natnet are the 2 winners in that pack and they are the people that get my business. Our experience with ISprime was not so good. Phatservers is a very good host as well. Sly is a good guy. __________________ http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

01-26-2006, 10:37 PM	#9
directfiesta Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 29,667	get your cage at http://www.nac.net/business/colo.asp ( no ref codes ). up , up and always up. __________________ I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT ! But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

01-26-2006, 10:44 PM	#10
FrankWhite Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: nyc Posts: 3,540	isprime.com > *

01-26-2006, 10:51 PM	#11
Sausage Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 3,012	Isprime and NationalNet really belong in their own list. You can't compare the likes of Isprime and Natnet with those others ... they are for mission critical stuff. The others are discount hosts of varying degrees. For what you are describing I think you should really skip straight to one of those two. They are proven, and while they are more expensive you definitely are getting what you pay for. __________________ IW Skype : blance8888 Icq : 15567120

01-27-2006, 12:02 AM	#15
Joesho want to get in shape Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: on the lake Posts: 12,329	The best move we have ever made, was choosing www.Natnet.com Those guys REALLY know their shit, and never try to fuck you over or bulshit you in anyway. __________________ Got any domains to sell? I proudly host all my stuff at www.rackco.com

01-27-2006, 12:21 AM	#16
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,482	If you're looking for the 99-100% SLA, I'd suggest NatNet of the bunch. WG __________________ I play with Google.

01-27-2006, 12:29 AM	#17
ffmihai keep walking... Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,177	www.varzi.net __________________

01-27-2006, 12:31 AM	#18
Zuzana Designs All Your Design Needs Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: [email protected] Posts: 20,851	I'm with webair __________________ Website Design - Consulting - Development sarah [at] zuzanadesigns.com - See Our Work

01-27-2006, 12:32 AM	#19
Fucked Beyond Repair Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 565	Havn't tried anyone else than ISPrime... never had a reason to __________________ Looking for Sponsors with Free Hosted Galleries? We have over 50.000 FHGs with descriptions! Trade Traffic

01-27-2006, 12:45 AM	#20
Cory W Deeply shallow Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hollywood, Ca. Posts: 9,133	Jupiterhosting has some great people. They are doing some pretty innovative things...IMO. __________________ ICQ: 292310358 Offering writing and content services (mainstream). Marketing for L3 Payments

01-27-2006, 12:54 AM	#21
Ycaza Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: the 805 Posts: 4,290	always worth askin me for a price if you want to be closer to more networks __________________ Caz Thrush Head Honcho [email protected] http://thrushtech.com ICQ: 304883574 do people still icq?

01-27-2006, 01:08 AM	#22
ServerGenius Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 9,377	Hit me up if you want unbiased independent advice that fits best to your needs. There are a lot more variables in play than just picking a company to host your servers.....if you have 150 servers I'm sure you are aware of this. __________________ \| http://www.sinnerscash.com/ \| ICQ: 370820 \| Skype: SinnersCash \| AdultWhosWho \|

01-27-2006, 01:13 AM	#23
JFK FUBAR the ORIGINATOR Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: FUBARLAND Posts: 67,374	there are some fine choices mentioned in there __________________ FUBAR Webmasters - The FUBAR Times - FUBAR Webmasters Mobile - FUBARTV.XXX For promo opps contact jfk at fubarwebmasters dot com

01-27-2006, 02:37 AM	#24
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	From the list? Natnet Others I would rather choose? www.Swiftco.net if you need lots of BW www.gotwebhost.com if you need lots of IP's

01-27-2006, 02:50 AM	#25
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	Does it still need to be said ? National Net all the way! __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

01-27-2006, 04:57 AM	#26
mattyboy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,070	See sig... "Powered by NatNet"

01-27-2006, 05:03 AM	#27
the Shemp congrats to the winners Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Echo Beach Posts: 10,891	we use NatNet __________________ i use Vacares...so should you Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

01-27-2006, 05:07 AM	#28
darksoul Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: /root/ Posts: 4,997	Lots of the hosts spammed here or listed by you have no chance of meeting your requirements. Your best choice with be natnet if you really wanna go this route altho expect to shell out a huge chunk of cash. If I were you, I'd look for an onsite employee that knows its stuff around hardware and colocate in Equinix. And then take a team to manage the network offsite with the help of the onsite employee. Your total cost will be less than going the other routes. And you'll have total control over your network and be able to switch the team whenever you feel like. Imagine you chose one of the above hosts, and after a year or so you get a problem with them and you wanna move. Its gonna be a pain to move that many servers. __________________ 1337 5y54\|)m1n: 157717888 BM-2cUBw4B2fgiYAfjkE7JvWaJMiUXD96n9tN Cambooth

01-27-2006, 05:20 AM	#29
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	Isprime4life

01-27-2006, 06:05 AM	#30
SinisterStudios Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New Joisey Posts: 3,087	There are so many good DC's in the NY/NJ area why dont you just get your own colo space and have a good management company manage your equiptment. If you want to go this route hit me up i have worked in almost all the DC's in the Area. We have multiple cages in Equinix and love their model and their DC's, cant beat the carrier neutral model. Lots and lots of providers to choice from. __________________ SEOIP.com Multiple IP Webhosting Shared and Dedicated IP's - Multiple Class A's - From $1.99/ip Last edited by SinisterStudios; 01-27-2006 at 06:08 AM..

01-27-2006, 06:55 AM	#31
Big Fish 47 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ohio, USA Posts: 1,035	www.oxeo.com __________________

01-27-2006, 06:56 AM	#33
rockbear Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 806	'' What about webair? They seem to host a whole wealth of KNOWN spammers? wouldn?t that put me at an extremely high risk to have the FBI walk into the datacenter and seize all of webair?s servers (including mine)? I mean? I know webair has terrific pricing (and a HUGE fan base) and all but can that really justify the risk? Not for me? but then again I could be wrong about the whole spammer thing. Maybe spamhaus.org isn?t all that accurate? '' Are you serious about that?

01-27-2006, 08:21 AM	#36
justsexxx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 13,723	Talk with isprime and natnet. These 2 are the best. __________________ Questions? ICQ: 125184542

01-27-2006, 08:35 AM	#37
King Adam Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Valley of the Sun Posts: 5,408	I've got my members areas with Jupiter. They have been awesome. One month I even had a security leak ... my own fault ... and Jupiter didn't charge me for the overage that got used. Poppy RULES and their service is top notch. Also love PhatServers.com. Run all my TGP and free sites through them. I have been looking for a new home for my pay sites. I want the fastest network thats always up. All I hear is Nat Net or ISPrime are the best for this. They are more money then the rest, but I hear its worth it. Does anyone know if Nat Net or ISPrime are running any specials on dedicated boxes? __________________ TWISTYSCASH.com - Proven to be One of the BEST Adult Programs Around Promote These Sites : Twistys ~ Busty Ones ~ Nicole Graves ICQ : 9 6 4 4 0 2 2 1 Last edited by King Adam; 01-27-2006 at 08:37 AM..

01-27-2006, 08:41 AM	#38
JUSTB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: tampa Posts: 1,740	We have a privately held class A data center located in Kissimmee, Florida http://www.marlinwebhosting.com/pictures/ If you are interested in a quote let me know. I can also have our CTO available to you to answer any questions.

01-27-2006, 08:47 AM	#39
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	I love the guys at ISPrime, and Webair is great. But I voted for Jupiter. Interestingly enough, KC, who's now part of Jupiter, was the guy who introduced me to ISPrime years ago (when he was Paycounter and some paysites) and has never had anything negative to say about them. #9 on your list, was the reason that I voted for Jupiter. I'd say all services are equal for alot of the hosts on your list. But when it comes to integrity, I don't think there's a man (or mouse) in this industry that has more integrity than Ray.

01-27-2006, 08:54 AM	#40
gregtx Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,929	hosting is a personal choice.. of what is important to you... i'd contact all of them.. get to know them.. then make a choice... I personally recommend: Nat Net Jupiter Webair.. b/c we do/or have done biz with them... all top notch companies with good products... no hosting company will be perfect... nor will any have zero downtime or issues.. but its the effort put forth to prevent and correct any issues that make the biggest difference... __________________ Processing Partners http://www.processingpartners.com